I saw that there was a similar thread for 2011 that had plenty of useful info so I figured its best to start one for 2012. 👍
Official 2012 Step 1 Experiences and Scores Thread
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Out of lurk status for me! Just got my scores today, exactly the third wednesday after I took the test. 242/85.
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Sure! I'm in the process of writing how I studied. I'll be posting it here, so don't worry.
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Thanks guys do let us know about your experiences and some of the topics that came out of left field on the exam that you may consider being important to cover not in FA, Uwolrd, Pathoma/Goljan.
Just got it -246/86! I'm so happy! Congrats to all who got the results today as well!
You know, the irony is that I got stars on gross anatomy and histology (my weakest??????). What a joke!
You know, the irony is that I got stars on gross anatomy and histology (my weakest??????). What a joke!
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Step 1 Score: 246/86 (reported by ECFMG on Sep 19, 2012, at 7:15 am). I took my test on August 31st, 2012.
NBME progression (all of these were done online, via the NBME website)
NBME 12: 470/214 (July 6, 2012, just before my 8-week dedicated study period)
NBME 13: 590/242 (July 20, 2 weeks into my dedicated study period)
NBME 11: 610/247 (Aug 3, 4/8 weeks)
NBME 7: 610/247 (Aug 17, 6/8 weeks)
UW % correct at 100% completion: 69%. I saved this question bank for last, started it on July 9 and finished it on August 11, doing it in Unused, Timed-Tutor mode.
Qbank %correct at 75% completion: 70%. I did this one first, over the course of several months, Timed-Tutor mode, in a system wise fashion.
Graduated from a 6-year MD program last April, took basic sciences during the first 2 years so I had not seen them for about 4 years until I started to study for Step 1.
I started to study around October, 2011, for about 3 hours daily (I hadn't finished school yet, and had to juggle between rounds, classes and the Step). Since Micro and Biochem were subjects I had not seen in a very long time, I started with CMMRS and RR Biochem, annotating into my copy of FA 2011. Now I realize I annotated lots of superfluous stuff, but I guess that's the price you pay for not knowing what's important and what isn't.
I finished all my classes on December 2011, but had to wait until April, 2012 to graduate – that's the way things are done in the third world, especially in a profession as heavily regulated by my country's government as is Medicine. So I spent those months studying Behavioral Sciences (used BRS Behavioral Sciences + FA, and I annotated everything I thought was important into FA), Immunology (used a textbook I own + FA, annotating into FA), Embryology and the rest of the non-organ systems stuff.
Also, I studied Neuroanatomy during this time, before starting organ systems, by using Neuroanatomy: An Illustrated Colour Text, published by Churchill Livingstone
For organ systems, I used BRS Physiology+ FA for the Physiology subsection of each system, annotating whatever I considered important (I didn't annotate a lot of phys tbqh), for Pharmacology I just memorized whatever was presented by FA, and for Pathology I used Pathoma, RR Path and FA.
I need to explain why I used so many resources for Path. First, I consider I was never properly taught Pathology, and so I wanted to hammer it down as much as I could. Second, I had enough time to use those resources several times. For each Pathology subsection, I would start by listening to Pathoma's lectures, annotating them into the book. Then, I'd use RR Path (it was painful to use, but still I felt I needed it) and finally I'd read FA path and annotate just a little, since I intended to read both Pathoma and RR Path several times.
After I was done with a system, I did ALL questions belonging to that specific organ system in Qbank, annotating HEAVILY. This helped me prepare for UWorld, as there are lots of concepts that overlap (no surprise, the human body is the same no matter how you word a question). Also, in retrospect, I find Qbank was usually better/more detailed in Physiology than UW.
As you can imagine, doing all this took me a very long time. IIRC, it took me like 3 months or so to be done with all systems – I was studying like 6 hours per day, though, so I was going at a very moderate pace. I finished my first pass of everything by mid-June, after which I took a 2-week holiday, just before my dedicated study period.
When I say I finished my 1st pass of everything, I mean I was done reading for the first time all the contents of FA+ Pathoma+RR Path, plus the rest of the books I meantioned. But by that time, I had also done a 2nd pass (using the annotated FA only) of Biochemistry, Microbiology, Behavioral Sciences, Embryology and Neuroanatomy, too, because I either felt I was weak on those topics (Biochem+Micro) or because I felt I kept on forgetting everything (the rest).
Then came July and, with it, the beginning of my 8-week dedicated study period, which was mostly finishing a 2nd and 3rd pass of my now heavily annotated FA.
Those were the worst 8 weeks of my life. I was always so stressed out, my days were very long – I studied from 8 am to 5pm, taking a few 10 minute breaks in between. I made sure to finish eac system in 2 or 3 days (I also used Pathoma concurrent with each organ system, but used RR very seldomly, only for some systems I thought were weaknesses of mine), while Micro and Biochem took me 3 days (FA only). I began using UWorld and during the first weeks did 69 questions daily, Unused+Timed-Tutor mode. After a while I ended up doing 92 questions daily, and finished it on Sunday of week 5.
My days consisted of studying FA from 8am to noon, eating lunch, and then doing UW until I finished my daily quota of questions. I read ALL explanations, I didn't care if I got the answer right, I would ALWAYS read the explanations for all options, annotating into my FA whatever I felt was important. Something else I did was taking pictures with my cellphone of stuff I thought important, like those cardiovascular physiology graphs that UW puts into its questions or explanations sometimes, and print them and paste them like little stickers into the corresponding section of FA, since I knew I wouldn't have time (nor the willingness) to go through the question bank again. This helped me IMMENSELY during my 3rd and last pass. I did the same during my 1st pass when doing Qbank, and although its cumbersome, I find it was worth the effort.
I took a NBME every 2 weeks to measure my progress. By the beginning of week 6 I was done with the whole 2nd pass of FA and had also finished UW on its entirety, so I decided to begin my 3rd pass of those subjects in which I scored the lowest according to the NBME extended feedback. My 3rd pass of those was through, I used FA+Pathoma and in some cases added RR Path to the mix. In the afternoon, because I was already done with UW, I started doing offline NBMEs, but I did not do all of them because by then I was already very burned out. Took my last NBME (Form 7) on Friday of week 6, and next Monday I began my rapid review of everything.
During weeks 7 and 8 I forced myself to read 50 pages/day of FA. I read everything except for the Pharm subsections and the Pharmacology section in the beginning of the book, which I saved for last and read between August 27 and 28 (my exam was on the 31st). On the 29th I did the UW Subject Review for Epidemiology and Biostatistics, which I heavily recommend.
On the 30th I had the worst day ever because American Airlines decided it was ok to cancel my flight and I almost got screwed, but thank God United Airlines had a flight to Baltimore which I was lucky enough to get a seat into (my test was in Washington DC, very nice testing center). I got to DC at 2 am of August 31st and had like 5 hours of sleep at most, thanks to AA, but still managed to do fine in the test.
In summary: study your ass off, USE PATHOMA, if you are an IMG schedule enough time to do both Qbank and UW, RR Path is just too much and unnecessary for Step 1, make sure you travel to the city where your testing center is located at least 2 days in advance, and keep in mind that this is just an exam. You put the work into this and you will see the results.
NBME progression (all of these were done online, via the NBME website)
NBME 12: 470/214 (July 6, 2012, just before my 8-week dedicated study period)
NBME 13: 590/242 (July 20, 2 weeks into my dedicated study period)
NBME 11: 610/247 (Aug 3, 4/8 weeks)
NBME 7: 610/247 (Aug 17, 6/8 weeks)
UW % correct at 100% completion: 69%. I saved this question bank for last, started it on July 9 and finished it on August 11, doing it in Unused, Timed-Tutor mode.
Qbank %correct at 75% completion: 70%. I did this one first, over the course of several months, Timed-Tutor mode, in a system wise fashion.
Graduated from a 6-year MD program last April, took basic sciences during the first 2 years so I had not seen them for about 4 years until I started to study for Step 1.
I started to study around October, 2011, for about 3 hours daily (I hadn't finished school yet, and had to juggle between rounds, classes and the Step). Since Micro and Biochem were subjects I had not seen in a very long time, I started with CMMRS and RR Biochem, annotating into my copy of FA 2011. Now I realize I annotated lots of superfluous stuff, but I guess that's the price you pay for not knowing what's important and what isn't.
I finished all my classes on December 2011, but had to wait until April, 2012 to graduate – that's the way things are done in the third world, especially in a profession as heavily regulated by my country's government as is Medicine. So I spent those months studying Behavioral Sciences (used BRS Behavioral Sciences + FA, and I annotated everything I thought was important into FA), Immunology (used a textbook I own + FA, annotating into FA), Embryology and the rest of the non-organ systems stuff.
Also, I studied Neuroanatomy during this time, before starting organ systems, by using Neuroanatomy: An Illustrated Colour Text, published by Churchill Livingstone
For organ systems, I used BRS Physiology+ FA for the Physiology subsection of each system, annotating whatever I considered important (I didn't annotate a lot of phys tbqh), for Pharmacology I just memorized whatever was presented by FA, and for Pathology I used Pathoma, RR Path and FA.
I need to explain why I used so many resources for Path. First, I consider I was never properly taught Pathology, and so I wanted to hammer it down as much as I could. Second, I had enough time to use those resources several times. For each Pathology subsection, I would start by listening to Pathoma's lectures, annotating them into the book. Then, I'd use RR Path (it was painful to use, but still I felt I needed it) and finally I'd read FA path and annotate just a little, since I intended to read both Pathoma and RR Path several times.
After I was done with a system, I did ALL questions belonging to that specific organ system in Qbank, annotating HEAVILY. This helped me prepare for UWorld, as there are lots of concepts that overlap (no surprise, the human body is the same no matter how you word a question). Also, in retrospect, I find Qbank was usually better/more detailed in Physiology than UW.
As you can imagine, doing all this took me a very long time. IIRC, it took me like 3 months or so to be done with all systems – I was studying like 6 hours per day, though, so I was going at a very moderate pace. I finished my first pass of everything by mid-June, after which I took a 2-week holiday, just before my dedicated study period.
When I say I finished my 1st pass of everything, I mean I was done reading for the first time all the contents of FA+ Pathoma+RR Path, plus the rest of the books I meantioned. But by that time, I had also done a 2nd pass (using the annotated FA only) of Biochemistry, Microbiology, Behavioral Sciences, Embryology and Neuroanatomy, too, because I either felt I was weak on those topics (Biochem+Micro) or because I felt I kept on forgetting everything (the rest).
Then came July and, with it, the beginning of my 8-week dedicated study period, which was mostly finishing a 2nd and 3rd pass of my now heavily annotated FA.
Those were the worst 8 weeks of my life. I was always so stressed out, my days were very long – I studied from 8 am to 5pm, taking a few 10 minute breaks in between. I made sure to finish eac system in 2 or 3 days (I also used Pathoma concurrent with each organ system, but used RR very seldomly, only for some systems I thought were weaknesses of mine), while Micro and Biochem took me 3 days (FA only). I began using UWorld and during the first weeks did 69 questions daily, Unused+Timed-Tutor mode. After a while I ended up doing 92 questions daily, and finished it on Sunday of week 5.
My days consisted of studying FA from 8am to noon, eating lunch, and then doing UW until I finished my daily quota of questions. I read ALL explanations, I didn't care if I got the answer right, I would ALWAYS read the explanations for all options, annotating into my FA whatever I felt was important. Something else I did was taking pictures with my cellphone of stuff I thought important, like those cardiovascular physiology graphs that UW puts into its questions or explanations sometimes, and print them and paste them like little stickers into the corresponding section of FA, since I knew I wouldn't have time (nor the willingness) to go through the question bank again. This helped me IMMENSELY during my 3rd and last pass. I did the same during my 1st pass when doing Qbank, and although its cumbersome, I find it was worth the effort.
I took a NBME every 2 weeks to measure my progress. By the beginning of week 6 I was done with the whole 2nd pass of FA and had also finished UW on its entirety, so I decided to begin my 3rd pass of those subjects in which I scored the lowest according to the NBME extended feedback. My 3rd pass of those was through, I used FA+Pathoma and in some cases added RR Path to the mix. In the afternoon, because I was already done with UW, I started doing offline NBMEs, but I did not do all of them because by then I was already very burned out. Took my last NBME (Form 7) on Friday of week 6, and next Monday I began my rapid review of everything.
During weeks 7 and 8 I forced myself to read 50 pages/day of FA. I read everything except for the Pharm subsections and the Pharmacology section in the beginning of the book, which I saved for last and read between August 27 and 28 (my exam was on the 31st). On the 29th I did the UW Subject Review for Epidemiology and Biostatistics, which I heavily recommend.
On the 30th I had the worst day ever because American Airlines decided it was ok to cancel my flight and I almost got screwed, but thank God United Airlines had a flight to Baltimore which I was lucky enough to get a seat into (my test was in Washington DC, very nice testing center). I got to DC at 2 am of August 31st and had like 5 hours of sleep at most, thanks to AA, but still managed to do fine in the test.
In summary: study your ass off, USE PATHOMA, if you are an IMG schedule enough time to do both Qbank and UW, RR Path is just too much and unnecessary for Step 1, make sure you travel to the city where your testing center is located at least 2 days in advance, and keep in mind that this is just an exam. You put the work into this and you will see the results.
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I also used Goljan's audio lectures. They were a good way to integrate stuff, but don't expect any of his "high-yields" to be currently useful. I made the most out of them after I was done with my 2nd pass of everything. I listened to them while I was working out, or when I was too tired to do anything else.
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I hate this site. why don't the people who got low scores ever post?. instead we only get douches who get 260s and say "aw man i could have done so much better."
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DUDE, I want your exam as my future one. What in the world is that about? Anatomy and histo are my weakest too. Hopefully I can catch a break on the real thing as well... Congrats.
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Dude, it's SDN... the entire point of this thread is to show off how big your dick is.
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He's not upset about the 260. He's upset that behavioral science, as much as he tried to just get it under his belt, still managed to eff with him on the real exam. It's like the annoying ex who won't leave you alone.
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It's good to see that the NBMEs are fairly predictive, particularly toward the latter part of prep.
92 Qs/day in UWorld, with full FA-annotations, is a very fast pace. You clearly worked hard, so congrats on your score.
Ok, I don't know what they counted as histo, I just simply don't remember, but anatomy I guess was upper and lower limb, neuro. I did not have any other anatomy, at least I don't remember having it, no anastomoses, no arteries, etc. Good luck to you on your exam!
BTW, I'm not a DUDE🙂
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Thanks! I was hoping I could break 250 but well, you can't always get what you wanted and my score is still competitive, so I guess its all right. I'm also surprised at how predictive NBMEs can be, those guys must have come up with some crazy statistical method to ensure that.
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So its long overdue but here it is:
Took my Step 1 on september 14, 2012. Just 4 days ago and it seems like FOREVER AGO.
Anatomy: Mainly reproductive system and MSK. MSK (upper limb) anatomy was NOT straight forward. There were way too many things wrong with the patient. So it seemed like lesion had to be with the "trunk" rather than isolated nerve.
Behavior: Little different than NBMEs and there was not alot of it. Biostat questions were weird and nothing i was used to. Probably 4-5 biostat questions on the entire test. 1 questions required to solve for sensitivity and rest ( i am not sure).
Overall: It seemed on par with NBMEs. My last NBME was 13. Which was taken on Sunday so approximately 4 days before the real thing. All you need is this: FA, uworld and pathoma. Thats it.
I felt like i had to use POE quite a bit to eliminate non sense answers but since it has been 10 days since my test date, my brain is clearing up. But it was not DIFFICULT. Just had to eliminate stupid/**** headed mistakes. I hope i did eliminate enough of them.
I will post more details once i get my score back. I hope i pass!!
Took my Step 1 on september 14, 2012. Just 4 days ago and it seems like FOREVER AGO.
Anatomy: Mainly reproductive system and MSK. MSK (upper limb) anatomy was NOT straight forward. There were way too many things wrong with the patient. So it seemed like lesion had to be with the "trunk" rather than isolated nerve.
Behavior: Little different than NBMEs and there was not alot of it. Biostat questions were weird and nothing i was used to. Probably 4-5 biostat questions on the entire test. 1 questions required to solve for sensitivity and rest ( i am not sure).
Overall: It seemed on par with NBMEs. My last NBME was 13. Which was taken on Sunday so approximately 4 days before the real thing. All you need is this: FA, uworld and pathoma. Thats it.
I felt like i had to use POE quite a bit to eliminate non sense answers but since it has been 10 days since my test date, my brain is clearing up. But it was not DIFFICULT. Just had to eliminate stupid/**** headed mistakes. I hope i did eliminate enough of them.
I will post more details once i get my score back. I hope i pass!!
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Definitely long overdue, and obviously seems like forever ago, if you wrote it in 2009 haha. I think you need to take time off and unwind, that's what's long overdue for you.
I hope you can manage not to count the minutes to that fateful Wednesday. I know I get antsy about results the second I finish an exam. All the best for that score.
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LOL. yea. i meant sept 14th 2012 not 2009. Well, i am started to get back to some sorta routine. Before i used to drink 2-3 venti iced americano's ( i made them at home via espresso machine) and haven't had any since the 14th. I used to work out quite a bit (5-6 days a wk) but on the 14th, it had been 50 days until i stepped inside the gym. So caffeine with drawls are a bitc*. Sitting in starbucks reading Monday Mornings by sanjay Gupta and looking over step 2 ck while trying to torrent step 2 ck 8th edition ( no luck ). Ahh
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PGEEEE2 mediates FEEEVER!!!
Seriously. There were couple of questions that I can remember that I would not have been able to answer if it wasn't for pathoma.
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Well, you have to remember that the most of the material overlaps. And i had reviewed FA 3-4x and pathoma 3-4x and uworld 4x. So for me it was difficult to identify whether the information was from pathoma or fa. But when i said "a couple", those were the few questions that i know for sure weren't in first aid. Not sure if that made any sense.
A question for recent test takers: do you think that behavioral science/psychiatry is enough from FA or do you guys recommend watching Kaplan Behavioral science videos? I really appreciate any feedback in this!! Thanks!!
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I haven't taken the exam yet, but I recall having read from a few posts in the past that those videos are really good. In general, Kaplan does behavioral fairly well. I found that between the QBook, QBank and lecture notes, it's one of their better subjects, so if you're really needing behavioral help, it probably wouldn't hurt to check out the videos.
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Congrats for your score. Do you recommend kaplan q bank for practice of questions along with uw q bank
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I saw this post at some other forum and his NBME scores and books are mentioned.
NBME-13=236 ( 2 months before exam)
NBME-11=255 ( 1 month before exam)
NBME-12=259 (1 week before exam)
Other NBME just did like practice qs which is highly recommended.
BRS for BS and HY for anatomy and neuro along with kaplan notes
Final Real Exam score=261/90
Source : Finally got 261/90 step-1 experience
I need opinion on Pathoma vs Goljan and also kaplan vs usmle rx.
NBME-13=236 ( 2 months before exam)
NBME-11=255 ( 1 month before exam)
NBME-12=259 (1 week before exam)
Other NBME just did like practice qs which is highly recommended.
BRS for BS and HY for anatomy and neuro along with kaplan notes
Final Real Exam score=261/90
Source : Finally got 261/90 step-1 experience
I need opinion on Pathoma vs Goljan and also kaplan vs usmle rx.
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Wow, that test was long. Just finished and I'll probably write a longer summary once my score comes out, but man Prometric needs some better chairs.
I will say Uworld, Pathoma and memorizing the crap out of FA is easily more than you'll ever need. I even managed to remember Irinotecan from Uworld somehow (blocks Topoisomerase I).
No idea how I did, but I felt that most of the questions were answerable in some way. I'm just hoping I didn't fall for their bait on too many questions.
I will say Uworld, Pathoma and memorizing the crap out of FA is easily more than you'll ever need. I even managed to remember Irinotecan from Uworld somehow (blocks Topoisomerase I).
No idea how I did, but I felt that most of the questions were answerable in some way. I'm just hoping I didn't fall for their bait on too many questions.
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I read his post. Thanks for linking us to that. I'm a bit scared/surprised, however, that he only got 261 after having gone through Rx, Kaplan and UWorld. Maybe he got a hard exam. On the other hand, I'm glad he says it how it is: give 7 months to prep. <-- That's a statement that would make quite a few people flip out, considering most SDNers come on here saying they gave 6 weeks prep, and that's "all you need," when in fact their MS2 was heavy preparation as well. The bottom line is that many months of hard work are needed to generate a strong outcome.
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I'm glad that showed up on your exam because 1) I was just thinking of that drug the other day, and 2) I've constantly vacillated in uncertainty myself as to whether a bunch of this stuff I'm learning is just nonsense and will ever show up. But that's just proof that hard work pays off. Congrats on making it to the other side.
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Thanks man. One thing I can't wrap my head about and I feel like shooting myself for is the mechanism of hypocalcemia in ESRD. I know its an increased phosphate and a decreased hydroxylation, but I had both of those as options in a question and I'm not sure which is right.
But really Pathoma, FA and Uworld is definitely it.
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At the risk of setting you off, it's decreased hydroxylation. The hyperphosphataemia is not as major a contributor towards the hypocalcaemia. Time to unwind, and try to let the exam related stuff go, I can only imagine how much easier that is said than done haha.
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This has nothing to do with whether hyperphosphataemia is not a major contributor toward hypocalcaemia; in fact, increased phosphate is the reason why PTH is increased in ESRD. If anything, that would only serve to restore calcium to more normal levels.
On the other hand, Ronin, try not to worry about anything at this point. When the adrenaline is running on the exam, there are bound to be things that slip our mind / come to the surface later than expected, and that goes for all of us.
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Thats what I answered so hopefully you're right! 😀
And yeah, I put my First Aid on the shelf and I'm going to do my best not to open it. The funniest thing though was I changed an answer at the very last minute of my test and it turned out to be right. But by last minute, I mean I literally clicked the circle box and the test ended. Hopefully it counted
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One of the stimuli to the kidney to increase 1-alpha hydroxylation the vit D is low serum phosphate, a high serum phosphate contributes to the hypovitaminosis.
Don't worry Ronin786, I'm confident, and it definitely would've counted. Especially since I didn't sit the exam today, it's like when you can answer all the questions on Who Wants To Be A MIllionaire, sitting on your couch.
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Yea, i feel the same way. Test was very on par with NBME's. I just tried to be extra careful of "easy" questions because i was prone to making careless mistakes on them on NBMEs. So hopefully i eliminated most of them on the test.
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Dude, he's clearly not a native english speaker, and he only gave it that amount of time. Also, if you were across from me right now, I would kick you, right smack in the shin for saying "only a 261." It would leave quite a lump too, quite a lump indeed. But really, you're out of touch with reality
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It is common that IMG's usually take 6 months or more and whereas AMG's take 6-8 weeks. This might be due to Basic science foundation in medical school. Medical schools and the way of teaching and learning differs from United states etc... Example is Indian and Asian medical schools style of teaching and their students learning differs from US. But good thing is these days Indian students are giving step-1 during 2nd or 3rd year of medical school( previously used to give step-1 after 5 years of medical school) ...thank you phloston
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Ten more days until result day!!
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What a crappy score. 270 or die.
We all know 99% of test takers are idiots and only the top 1% are smart cool people. There is no luck involved either. Getting a 270+ is all about preparation.
Hey guys
I have a month and a couple of weeks to go for my exam and i keep getting scores of 67% to low 70s on random UWorld tests. In your experience what kind of a final score on the real thing does this correspond to? 230s? less? more?
Also what do you think is best to do to up my performance to the 80s. Is it worth it skimming thru Goljan quickly during this month to fish for bits of info that I don't have annotated in FA?
Thanks a lot for your advice
I have a month and a couple of weeks to go for my exam and i keep getting scores of 67% to low 70s on random UWorld tests. In your experience what kind of a final score on the real thing does this correspond to? 230s? less? more?
Also what do you think is best to do to up my performance to the 80s. Is it worth it skimming thru Goljan quickly during this month to fish for bits of info that I don't have annotated in FA?
Thanks a lot for your advice
I got an asterisk on Behav, so I guess I qualify to answer your question. FA was enough, but I'm glad that I reviewed physician-patient relationship section from kaplan couple days before my exam. As to Psych, I think FA was enough, but they don't separate it in performance profile, so I have no idea where it goes, hence cannot really tell how well I did there.
