I saw that there was a similar thread for 2011 that had plenty of useful info so I figured its best to start one for 2012. 👍
I took the exam on monday 6/18. Had 6 weeks to study, which at about 5 weeks I was getting burnt out and starting to feel like I was forgetting stuff I had known a few weeks back. This is my breakdown and the resources I used:
NBME 7, 12 weeks out to get a baseline: 219
NBME 11, 4 weeks out: 247
UWSA 1, 2 weeks out: 263
UWSA 2, 1 week out: 265
UW 1st pass: low 70s%
UW 2nd pass: low 90s%
I used FA throughout 1st and 2nd year so I was pretty familiar with it. I went though it in-depth one time during my 6 weeks, then would just refer when needed.
Pathoma: HIGHLY recommend! I got a number of questions on my exam correct because of a few one-liners out of his book. He does an awesome job explaining basic principles to help you understand a concept, rather than just memorizing it. He was the only resource I used during my first 2 weeks of studying and my score jumped up to 247. I re-listened to a few of my weak sections the week before my exam and was glad that I did.
UW: cannot stress this enough!!! I would say that more than 50% of my test on Monday was a question that I had in UW, maybe not exactly the same, the real test seems to give you more labs, vitals, etc. that you don't really need to answer the question, but they were close enough. A lot of the figures on my exam I had seen in UW too. If I had to do it again I would have gone through UW one more time, at least the ones I missed or had. marked
Goljan: I listened to him throughout second year with each system course and loved him but only listened to a few lectures throughout my board studying. I would say his first few hours when he discusses cell injury, hypoxia, etc. are the best, but if you really want to understand a concept then pathoma is better, in my opinion.
I also went through all of the questions in the Red robbins questions book. I think these are a good representation of the real test questions in terms of length and the fact that they give you a lot of extra information that you usually don't need to answer the question, such as BMI, BP, pulse, etc.
Pharm: FA is definitely all I needed. All of the drugs on my exam were 1st order questions and super high yield, nothing tricky.
Micro: Most of the micro on my exam was high yield, straight from FA. There was one parasite question that you had to know what it looked like to answer the question. I looked it up on wiki after the section and the picture on the test was straight from wiki, but probably not worth stressing over for 1 question.
I am absolutely terrible at biochem and just went through the UW biochem questions a few times and felt very prepared for the questions on the test.
My exam was pretty heavy on cardio and respiratory but other than these subjects it had very little emphasis on concepts.
I think I had 3 embryo questions, all I recognized from UW or FA.
I had quite a bit of anatomy, maybe like 2-3 per section, many were easy points that everyone knows but there were a few difficult questions, overall I would say 1-2 that weren't in UW or FA.
The night before my test I went through the rapid review section in FA which is SUPER high yield. I would say at least 50% of the test can be easily answered if you know this section cold!
There were probably 10 questions on my test that I had absolutely no idea what was going on and that couldn't be answered using FA. Around half of these were ethical type questions, which were very subjective or just terminology that are not in FA. The other 2 were molecular biology/lab technique questions that I may have learned in undergrad but haven't seen since then.
I am a very slow reader and I finished most of the blocks with 12-15 minutes left, which gave me plenty of time to go back and look back over the questions I had marked, which I don't know if that was really a good thing because I know of a few that I changed from the right to wrong answer... :-/
Anyway, I will update when I get my score. Hope this helps! Good luck to everyone!
Real deal: >275!! High enough to be personally identifying, so I don't want to be more specific... sorry guys 😳
What I did:
1. Gunner Training, largely finished with banking before started doing any qbanks. 100% banked, 89% mastery by test day
2. First Aid 3x, spread out over 3-4 months
3. RR Path 1x, spread out over 1 month
4. Kaplan qbank 1x, spread out over 3 months; 85% correct
5. UWorld qbank 1x, spread out over 3 months; 90% correct
Took NBMEs 7, 11, 12, and 13, scores were in 265-275 range.
Most important for me was studying hard and getting the most possible out of the first two years of med school. After that, GT was absolutely essential in my case; I often got bored reading review books and had a hard time focusing on them, but GT felt more like a game and it was kind of addictive. I also knew that 1) I tend to panic when I feel time pressure and 2) I was incapable of focusing and retaining info that I study in marathon 12-14 hr+ sessions, so I spread my studying out comfortably over the year.
Thank you to everyone who has posted before; advice on SDN has been incredibly helpful for me. And big congrats to everyone getting scores today!
Real deal: >275!! High enough to be personally identifying, so I don't want to be more specific... sorry guys 😳
What I did:
1. Gunner Training, largely finished with banking before started doing any qbanks. 100% banked, 89% mastery by test day
2. First Aid 3x, spread out over 3-4 months
3. RR Path 1x, spread out over 1 month
4. Kaplan qbank 1x, spread out over 3 months; 85% correct
5. UWorld qbank 1x, spread out over 3 months; 90% correct
Took NBMEs 7, 11, 12, and 13, scores were in 265-275 range.
Most important for me was studying hard and getting the most possible out of the first two years of med school. After that, GT was absolutely essential in my case; I often got bored reading review books and had a hard time focusing on them, but GT felt more like a game and it was kind of addictive. I also knew that 1) I tend to panic when I feel time pressure and 2) I was incapable of focusing and retaining info that I study in marathon 12-14 hr+ sessions, so I spread my studying out comfortably over the year.
Thank you to everyone who has posted before; advice on SDN has been incredibly helpful for me. And big congrats to everyone getting scores today!
I will post since this thread/site has helped me a ton and I hope I can return the favor.
NMBE 7: 235 (took right before started studying)
UWSA1: 264 (3 weeks out)
UWSA2: 263 (2 weeks out)
NMBE11: 263 (1 week out)
Real test: >265
Resources: Pathoma (best ever!), goljan audio (hated his book; pathoma a million times better), FA, UWORLD, BRS phys
Total dedicated study time was a little over 5 weeks, although I wish I would have taken it a week earlier. I was starting to get burnt out and felt ready. My biggest advice is study your ass off during the year. I did this and when it got time for dedicated study time I felt I already had a good grasp on most of the material so it was easy just to review everything. Also, I bought a year long Uworld subscription and started doing questions around november. I started off super slow (7 questions per hour). As the year went on and especially during dedicated review I got a lot faster as my knowledge base increased so I didn't have to write everything down. I would read every single word of the uworld explaination meticulously and anything that I was unsure about/liked the way Uworld explained it I would annotate in FA or pathoma (I know a lot of people that wouldn't go over correct questions or would superficially go over the answers. My biggest advice is to meticulously go over everything even right choices you were sure of b/c the explainations often have other information that is really good. This is why getting UWorld early is a good idea IMO b/c it gives you time to do this). I finished UWORLD with about 2 weeks left and then redid another 400 questions. But after I finished UWorld my FA was annotated with all of the hard concepts of uworld so I really didn't need to redo the questions. I also did pathoma during the year multiple times and then again multiple times during dedicated review. I pretty much knew the whole book cold and this was really the best resource for the exam. If you know this book like the back of your hand you will get a lot of questions right b/c of it (start the book at the beginning of MS-2).
I also had a lot of imaging/anatomy on my exam which I did spend quite a bit of time studying so I would recommend doing that as well. Pharm was a joke and everything in FA. I must say though that if you want a high score focus more on the other sources and just use FA as a skeleton. I really only ready FA cover to cover one time and skipped the path parts in it b/c I used pathoma for that. FA was good for all the drugs/biochem/micro/embryo. Other that that I used it mainly for the Uworld explaination I annotated to clarify things.
Also DIT sucks. If you want a high score not get it waste your money (it might be good if you want an average score). I started it for half a day and stopped after all they do is read word for word w/o expanding on anything.
Any other questions feel free to ask.
School Diagnostic 225 (2 months out) - gotta admit I hadn't prepped for this at all
USMELRx-90%
USMLE World -81%
Kaplan - 83%
NBME11 - 254 (1 month out)
NBME 12 - 261 (2 weeks out)
STEP 1 - 267/90 😀
The one thing I wish I had known was that you can get basically the exact same question multiple times throughout the exam.
On two separate blocks I had the exact same figure with a slightly different prompt and it messed up my mind a little because it made me second guess my first answer and then think maybe I am missing something.
I took the exam yesterday and I thought I would share my study plan and experience here since Ive gotten so much help from SDN the past couple of years.
FA
BRS Phys
Uworld 67%, random, timed
USMLE Rx mostly at the beginning during shelf exams to solidify FA and pick up details
School CBSE (5 weeks out) 230
NBME 12 (3 weeks out) 233
NBME 13 (3 days out) 245
I took about 7 weeks including when we had shelf exam finals for the last two weeks of school. I used only FA + BRS Phys for 99% of my prep, which I am so glad of in retrospect. I went over everything by subject first, then again by organ system to see things from a different perspective. It also helped me to type things up in my own words and make my own study guides based on FA, even though it was already right in front of me in FA because I tend to learn more when I have to type the words myself and I am forced to think about them a little more. One random thing I did that I think helped a lot was to keep a running document of things I really wanted to hammer in from Uworld (maybe 10-15 one-liner items per block) and I would go back and study this document every few days until I had seen everything I thought was very important, high yield, or just couldnt remember about a dozen times.
I took two NBMEs, NBME 12 after finishing going over everything the first time by subject and then NBME 13 three days before the test. I thought they were slightly easier than the real thing on average, but much closer to the actual difficulty level than I would have thought based on some of the posts on here. Uworld was also harder than the real thing on average, but I think the medium to hard questions on the real thing were very comparable to Uworld. I think Uworld is the most key thing anyone can do, right up there with FA, because of the way it familiarizes you with the format and style of the test. If someone had told me at the end of my test that I had mistakenly just done 7 blocks of Uworld I would have believed them except for the of the easier 1 step questions you dont often see in Uworld. I would say that the real test seemed exactly like someone mixed Uworld questions and NBME questions together.
As far as the exam experience itself, it was tougher to do 7 blocks, but if you take breaks when you need to and remember that when you do those blocks, youll be done it goes by pretty fast. I did 3 blocks to start, break, 2 blocks, break, then finished up the last 2 blocks. The test was pretty homogenous in that I marked about the same amount of questions per block, didnt feel like I got crazy experimental questions in another language, and didnt seem to have a theme or a bunch of questions from one subject. There were subjects/organ systems that were covered more than others, but you have to expect some variation. I feel like the test would do a pretty good job of showing what I did know and what I didnt. Im shooting for a 240, but I think I will be happy with a 230, guess Ill find out on July 11th! As for now, Im going enjoy my time off before rotations start that same day!
Took It today! Wasn't that bad! 90% of my test came from FA and UWOLRD! Now that doesn't mean I remembered all of it though lol. There were definitely a lot of gimmies. Not only did they give you a picture, they'd also tell you the symptoms too! I couldn't believe it! There were definitely some things I'd never seen but that was only a few and you really can't control for that. Not going to go into detail with questions b/c everyone's exam is different. Quick little breakdown:
ANATOMY: a lot! but mostly all could be answered from FA and world
BIOCHEM/GENETICS: most could be answered from FA, a few were tricky
MICRO: mostly from FA. def a few random bugs though
PHYS: lots of arrow questions, but not too difficult, not too much of it either. (Hallelujah!)
PATH: my test was very path heavy(and again Hallelujah!), like some have recommended definitely read the first 3 sections right before if you can.
PHARM: very straightforward. classic s/e and MOA. only 1 drug I had no clue on. and trust me, I suck at pharm. hate memorizing, more of an understand kinda gal.
BIOSTATS: simple. all could be answered from FA.
BEHAVIORAL: some were easy. some were tricky. but whatevs
my test was incredibly heavy on renal path and anatomy. nothing else at the moment really sticks out too much. I had plenty of time to go over blocks again in most of my sections( I skip things when I don't know it) and marked at most 10 questions per block and that was only a few times and some of the questions I marked were simply b/c I had trouble remembering, not b/c they were hard. They did have a lot of graphs you had to interpret so practice those. As far as my exam. If you knew FA and you world in and out and really UNDERSTOOD and made connections you would be just finel. Quick advice: look at images, so many of the questions you don't even have to read to know the answer, if FA tells you "globoid cell", go look it up. Same for all the other tidbits in FA if there's a fact you don't understand, again LOOK IT UP!
oh, and as far as comparison from easiest to hardest NBME 7 < STEP <UWSA1< UWORLD <<< NBME 12 ( hated this one). P.S. I definitely had an NBME question on my test. so check your answers when you take them. I know thats the only reason I got one of the questions right b/c the answer to that question is not in FA or UWorld. Also, UWORLD is amazing some of the question weren't exactly the same, but they were similar. Last tidbit of advice...pray. I honestly believe I wasn't that nervous about it b/c I prayed( well I pray all the time lol, but pray about your test). Instead of trying to calm my nerves (like I was for the MCAT) I was able to focus instead. Not going to predict how well I did but I'm sure I passed lol.
Hope this helps ease some ppls anxiety.
Good luck to everyone studying. Its rough, I know.
Any questions, let me know.
Hi Pholston,
Kaplan Qbank was more difficult and complicated than the actual exam. 90% of the questions on the actual exam are fairly easy to get. The other 10% of questions are the type that separate people into the 240/50/60 range. People say kaplan is not representative of the test, and they are right - but it is representative of the 10% of questions that really matter. Plus some of them have attached media, which is always nice.
What I did was put every question I got wrong (or guessed right) into an excel spreadsheet split up by organ systems. Then in the last 2 weeks of studying, I did nothing but exhaust all 3 q-banks and reviewed my excel spreadsheet of mistakes.
Wow, it looks like you did everything - almost all NBMEs and all qbanks. You had 10-15 minutes left for each block?! That's great and congrats.
Just wanted to post this because I was going crazy searching for good score estimators the month I was studying and read a lot about UWSA scores vs. real scores. Our school only gives us 4 weeks to study, so I only had time to do UWSA1 and that free nbme: UWSA1 was 252 and real deal 251, so it is close. Also, the free nbme predicted a 247, so that's a good predictor too, for me at least. I went through maybe 75% of FA when I did the free nbme, if that helps.
I'm don't regret not doing any of the paid NBMEs (hella broke, not paying 50$ for no explanations...but also mostly didn't have time), but I do seriously regret not being able to go through UW (went through like 55% of it...).
I don't know how to feel about my score...seems like it's good, but not good enough for competitive residencies in Cali, and Cali is all that I can think about! Sigh!
glycolysisman its understandable that you may be upset with your score but think long and hard if you decide to leave. whatever your choice, i wish you the best man. sometimes life gets in the way of stuff we wish to do
Thank you for the kind words! It kinda sucks seeing all these ludicrous scores and realizing just how low my ceiling is-I basically have no self-esteem left, which will probably make getting through rotations pretty difficult. Not sure what my next step is, but it'll probably end at or after 2.
Just try and do the best you can from here on out. Step 1 is just 1 of many tests that we take. PDs understand this. One of the EM attending that I shadowed in my premed days failed his step 1 -2 times before he was accepted. Do well in Medicine and your EM rotation. As you may know.... the people who post scores on sdn post only if they did well so its a really skewed type of representation.
EM is just one of many examples.
Just try and do the best you can from here on out. Step 1 is just 1 of many tests that we take. PDs understand this. One of the EM attending that I shadowed in my premed days failed his step 1 -2 times before he was accepted. Do well in Medicine and your EM rotation. As you may know.... the people who post scores on sdn post only if they did well so its a really skewed type of representation.
EM is just one of many examples.
269/91
Ain't a score that phloston would be proud of... but it should get me where I want to go. 😉
269/91
Ain't a score that phloston would be proud of... but it should get me where I want to go. 😉
CONGRATS man. When did you finish banking gt? When do you suggest others should reach 100% banked? Ie how long before writing the exam? Thanks
ipizzy did it feel like you had questions wrong when you left the test?
Thanks! I banked almost 100% before starting qbanks; so I would recommend aiming for finishing banking (or getting close to it, e.g. 85%+) by the time you want to start your qbanking. It's too difficult to bank and qbank at the same time... Plus you'll get more out of your qbanks if you start with a solid baseline knowledge level, IMO.
Yes, I looked up a few questions afterwards and know I got some wrong. I couldn't remember many questions but of the 4 I looked up, I got 3 wrong. I thought it was a bad sign haha I never would have guessed my score would turn out this way.
Just wanted to add that, while important, this one test does not completely define your future. It just means you have to work harder and make your application stand out in other ways if you want to land a competitive residency. Anecdotally, I know a person who just matched into a very competitive field with a very similar step 1 score. She took a year off for research in the field and churned out some good pubs, did much better on step 2, did well 3rd and 4th year and got awesome letters, etc.Thank you for the kind words! It kinda sucks seeing all these ludicrous scores and realizing just how low my ceiling is-I basically have no self-esteem left, which will probably make getting through rotations pretty difficult. Not sure what my next step is, but it'll probably end at or after 2.
Happy for all of you that did so well!
Only a 201 here, I'm sorry to say.
FA x 2-3
DIT
Pathoma x 1
USMLE x 0.75
CMMRS
BRS Physio
Only 3 weeks of dedicated study (I hate my school).
Had a near-perfect SAT and mid-30's MCAT but I didn't prepare enough for this one nor get enough sleep leading up to it. Breakups really suck, and does nothing good for depression. I don't think I'll be continuing on this path if peds/FM/psych are my only options. I'm not sure if I can stand any more uphill battles beyond just getting through each day.
Can't hang with you all-Hope you all go on to awesome things, though! Gibe free healthcare plox? Huehuahuehue
269/91
Ain't a score that phloston would be proud of... but it should get me where I want to go. 😉
Cool cool
So during which month did you start Qbanks? Just trying to get an idea. January vs may is a big difference.
I felt god awful after my test. Went home and managed to recall 250ish of my questions. Found 31 that I missed for sure and another 60 that I didn't know if I got right or not. Caused me to freak out for the past 6 weeks.
I ONLY used First Aid. Didn't open another book the entire study period. I also used DIT. Some people give DIT a bad rap, but I can think of at least 10 questions that I got right because it was in DIT and not in First Aid.
World: overall 64%.. (most tests were in the low 70s toward the end)
Kaplan: overall 62%
NBME 9: 217.. 6 weeks out
NBME 11: 226.. 3 weeks out
UWSA 1: 248.. 2 weeks out
UWSA 2: 244 1 week out
NBME 12: 238 2 days out
Real deal: 242/85
I'm ecstatic with this score. The UWSA are definitely inflated by about 10 points.
What I've learned from this:
1. You can can miss a boat load of questions and still manage to do fine on the test.
2. NEVER look up answers after the test.. It caused me 6 weeks of stressful nightmares.
How were your UWSA inflated by 10 points? they seem pretty dead on, more than your NBMEs.
Mainly because I felt like if I had taken the real deal one or two weeks prior to when I actually did then I would have made about 10 points lower than what the UWSA predicted.
Just another addition but my exam>uworld>NBMEs. Almost all honors in basic sciences. My advice to future test takers is to use board review material with coursework throughout 2nd year (NOT NOT NOT 1st year). Studying board stuff during early 1st year cost me honors in a few courses (wasn't focusing on lecture material as much). Scored in 260s and 250s on the 3 practice tests I took. I came out feeling way worse than any NBME (7,12,13), but I'll find out Wednesday how it really went. I honestly feel like I could get anywhere from 200-260.
I left the test feeling like I had done a ton of guessing, felt like every other question. 2 very easy blocks, 3 very difficult blocks, and 2 mediium blocks (like the NBMEs). I marked over 15 on the first difficult block, but then stopped marking questions because I realized I wouldn't have any time anyway. I only finished 2 blocks with more than 3 minutes to spare and was rushed on all others (I never finished an NBME exam with less than 15 minutes left). Don't want to scare everyone, just wanted to let you know what to expect. Finished kaplan qbank with 72% percent overall (high yield mode only) as well as half of uworld with 74% overall. Obviously I would have done all of uworld if I could do it again, but thought kaplan wasn't nearly as bad as many people say. Not as good as world, but I wasn't all that impressed with world either.
Did DIT, pathoma, goljan audio (still very good for learning during the year), and FA mainly. Also read through most of HY neuro, usmle roadmap anatomy, and referenced some other books. Didn't mean for this to be a big review. Will update Wednesday with results to see if my advice is actually worth reading. So glad this crap is over with
Started dabbling in Kaplan in late January; saved UWorld for April-June. I did the qbanks consecutively rather than concurrently
On NBME 7, 11, 12, & 13 I scored 254, 252, 254, & 259, respectively, so my actual score was between 7 and 14 points below my practice scores. The most disappointing part is that I took NBME 13 three days before my actual exam, so I thought I was peaking at the end...maybe I peaked and then immediately crashed? Haha, I don't ****ing know...whatever, I'm absolutely not disappointed in my score of 245, just thought my practice scores were pointing towards something a little higher. I felt decently well coming out of the exam too, so I thought the 259 was in reach. Oh well, there's no difference above 245, right???![]()