What I heard from an attending who used to work there was that they use county hospital as their main teaching site. It seems like there's a lot of problems in cancer center too.
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What I heard from an attending who used to work there was that they use county hospital as their main teaching site. It seems like there's a lot of problems in cancer center too.
UConn I would say, better rep than UVA.
Why 10 days? You should be able to cancel now if you have enough interviews so someone else can get a chance.
Well U Conn is not a NCI cancer center, whereas UVA is.
If the program is strong, it really shouldn't matter who leaves because they can attract good faculty from other places. Never been to Portland but, is prolly ok compared to other places out West like Utah or the deserts of Arizona and Nevada.
It's okay, but I got an impression that it was shadowed by UW in Seattle. I may have been biased 'cause i got this impression from people who left there.
True about UW and also UCSF/Stanford to the south of Portland but, OSHU is the only program in that state, just like UW up in WA. Both prolly get patients from Idaho, Montana so may get to see more cases. Gutonc may be able to provide some answers.
NCI designation is one of the few things going for UVA right now, but you won't get to see many cases like at UConn because of sparse population. I am not sure if NCI designated center means a whole lot, prolly a lot of lobbying also involved to get that designation!
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Thank you for your input.
I would certainly value UVA > UConn even without the NCI classification. There is not a whole lot going for the Uconn program (2 fellows a year, no internal transplant, in Yale's growing shadow, crappy football program)
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cancelled my IV yesterday. hopefully, they will send IV soon.
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Wanted to get thoughts about paring down the interview list. My interests are less basic/translational, more clinical/epidemiological/policy. Strong quantitative background. Want to do academic medicine. I've done more work in solids but have been very intrigued by heme because of the medicine I still get to practice.
Interviews:
MSKCC
MDAnderson
Stanford
JH
Dana Farber
Yale
Columbia
UPenn
Worth going to Yale or Columbia?
Interviews:
MSKCC
MDAnderson
Stanford
JH
Dana Farber
Yale
Columbia
UPenn
Worth going to Yale or Columbia?
Congrats on your list. If you like Heme, Columbia might not be the place for you. did you apply ot NCI/NIH and UW? MSKCC is probably the best on your list for heme.
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Scripps
Any Input about this program?
Any Input about this program?
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With the exception of Yale (sort of), those places are all heavy basic/translational research. Not that you can't find other types but you're going to be pushed at some of them to join a lab.
FWIW, Stanford is the strongest heme program on your list but it's hard to go wrong with any of them. I'd personally skip Columbia and Yale because MSKCC is the only place I'd move back to NYC to go to and...New Haven. But frankly, you'll lose nothing by going to all of them (besides time and money).
i didn't get an invite to any of those places, especially Stanford, but from what I heard through my source is that Stanford's heme is small (probably b/c of UCSF nearby) but they do have excellence people there for translationship reserach opportunities though.
probably a small community program affiliated with a Naval base??. I would pick UCSD over Scripps.
UCSD for sure over Scripps community program. Not sure about their size but prolly is overshadowed by other big ones in that area like UCSD, USC and UCLA.
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Actually, malignant heme is Stanford's strength. UCSF pales in comparison. How many lymphoma chemo regimens are named UCSF X? Exactly 0. How many are named after Stanford?
I avoided Stanford because they're so heme mal focused.
thanks for these great info, Gutonc!
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Any opinion on the Chicago programs other than Northwestern or U Chicago?
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Do you guys email all interviewers or just the PD. Sometimes the PC/ website provides just the PD's email
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Practically speaking, no, you can't. If you haven't taken (and passed) all 3 of them, if you wait until 7 years after you last sat for one, you can re-take them. At that point, the fact that you've been out of med school for >10 years will be a much bigger issue than your step scores.
Hospitalist or PCP work? Pall care? Aim lower/apply more broadly?
Sounds like your app has several issues (scores, weak residency with weak LORs, IMG?). Not much you can do about any of those at this point though. Research is the common answer to this question, but you need to really kick ass in that department to make up for other deficiencies, and that's harder than most people think. Best bet is to find a hospitalist job (to pay the bills) and a research opportunity (to buff your CV) at the same place. Get LORs from both. Cross your fingers and do it again next year.
Hi everybody... i've found this forum extremely helpful and now would like to get your perspective on the programs im interviewing so you help me with the ROL. I'm looking for an academic position, some research oriented, heme>solid:
1. Jefferson
2. Boston University medical ctr
3. UT southwestern
4. Tufts
5. U Miami
6. UAB
7. Washington Cancer Institute
8. Cooper
Any ideas to help me prioritize please? Maybe gutonc or medonc can help me get a better idea which ones to rank first please? thanks for the help! 😀
1. Jefferson
2. Boston University medical ctr
3. UT southwestern
4. Tufts
5. U Miami
6. UAB
7. Washington Cancer Institute
8. Cooper
Any ideas to help me prioritize please? Maybe gutonc or medonc can help me get a better idea which ones to rank first please? thanks for the help! 😀
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Hey guys,
I haven't heard from UCSF nor MD Anderson, highly interested in those but applied on the last day of deadline. I think I'm a decent candidate for this competitive year as I already got IVs from Stanford and UCLA. Any idea if you are supposed to get a reject email from them before losing hope? Should I call them to check or does that drive them nuts??
Thanks.
I haven't heard from UCSF nor MD Anderson, highly interested in those but applied on the last day of deadline. I think I'm a decent candidate for this competitive year as I already got IVs from Stanford and UCLA. Any idea if you are supposed to get a reject email from them before losing hope? Should I call them to check or does that drive them nuts??
Thanks.
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Jefferson and UAB probably are the strongest programs, BU/Tufts/UTSW in the middle, everyone else a notch below? JMO
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Hi guys is anyone interested in starting an anonymous interview feedback thread like the one cardiology has ?
i think we should use this forum. My IV experiences have been mixed. Not sure how much I can take away from somone one telling me how they'd love to have me there. Heard similar stories last year but without a happy ending.
Hi guys
I am new to this forum. I hope it would help me with the issue. I got an iv today from St Luke Roosevelt and they gave me 3 dates which are the same dates that I have interview at other places. I called all the programs but they said they there are no other slots left on other dates. So anyone interested in exchange of interview date with me on any of the followings?
Oct 4: Kansas University
Oct 11: SUNY downstate
Oct 25: U Mass
I am new to this forum. I hope it would help me with the issue. I got an iv today from St Luke Roosevelt and they gave me 3 dates which are the same dates that I have interview at other places. I called all the programs but they said they there are no other slots left on other dates. So anyone interested in exchange of interview date with me on any of the followings?
Oct 4: Kansas University
Oct 11: SUNY downstate
Oct 25: U Mass
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I realize you're trying to keep as many spots as possible but if you have to choose, ditch Downstate and go to SLR instead.
So I think that point needs to be qualified. MSKCC is a wonderful program, but their leukemia program is historically weak (and they just had a pretty significant exodus of faculty to Columbia). Their transplant is good, and their lymphoma is also pretty strong.
As an aside, I'm currently a fellow at MDACC and happy to answer any questions about the program. I'm very happy here. I'm not in a position to evaluate anyone's credentials so please don't send exam scores and how many pubs you have, but feel free to ask if you have anything you would like to know about the place.
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Not that Downstate is anywhere near a good program, but what does SLR have to offer? I don't know anything about this program. Is it better than Lenox Hill?
Recently Downstate dropped LICH as a site and the extra fellow was put into Kings County so that helps the workload a little. Still a clinical program.
Just a quick question--are you guys sending out thank you emails to the programs you
applied to. If so, are you just emailing the program director or all you sending out separate thank you letters to each person you interviewed with? Thanks.
applied to. If so, are you just emailing the program director or all you sending out separate thank you letters to each person you interviewed with? Thanks.
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Does MDACC ever have to send a second round of interviews?
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Welcome to the club, unfortunately! Am in the same boat. I have research and pubs but no luck this season. I think scores are the only thing that matter if you are an IMG. Will try next year again with more research and green card. Try to do as much research as you can and apply. If you are IMG, get a green card first.
Has anyone interviewed at TJ earlier this month? I know that they are dwarfed by Temple, UPMC and UPenn in that area, but am curious about research prospects there.
If you interviewed, what did you think of the program?
If you interviewed, what did you think of the program?
i didn't get an invite at TJ but UPMC is not in the same area. Within the Philadelphia area, TJ is probably third after Upenn and Fox Chase. TJ is what I called overrated and underrated program at the same time: overrated in the sheer number of people that applied (probably known to be IMGs friendly), and underrated in their clinical research capabilities. Regarding BMT, Foxe Chase is probably the best out of that group. TJ usually accept at least 1 from their own program and 1 from nearby Albert Einsteins if their residents couldn't get accepted into better programs (MDACC, etc.).
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should facilities/infrastructures play a role? or only the quality of their faculties and fellows? what other things do you used when you score a program? percentage of fellows achieved academia positions within the past 5 years?
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Those are all potentially important things, some moreso than others depending on the applicant.
I would take care with the % of fellows in academia one though. If you use that criterion, places like Northwestern and MSKCC look pretty crappy (more than half of their fellows go to PP). Not everyone wants to be in academics, even though everybody says it during the interview.
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Sorry...I don't know a whole lot about the program. I interviewed there for residency but not fellowship.
I don't know. My sense however has been that they have been sending them on a rolling basis throughout the season...but thats my sense based on other applicants that I know personally.
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After starting to interview, I'm noticing things that I didn't care about earlier. When the interviews come, all I cared about was how strong the program is, reputation, fellows, research...etc
Now that I actually get to see the place and the people, other factors are kicking in:
1) is it truly a friendly environment? I know interview time is short but you smell some hostility pretty easily in some programs.
2) Computer system: I was shocked to see that some of the big places still use ******ed EMR systems or combined EMR+paper systems.
3) infrastructure: conference rooms, hospital corridors ..etc. some places are pretty nasty
4) and of course the city, location of the hospital, traffic, cost of living, is it a good place to raise a family ...etc
Those are definitely things I'm starting to pay more and more attention to as the interview season goes on. I don't care how strong the program is if I'm going to be miserable.
Now that I actually get to see the place and the people, other factors are kicking in:
1) is it truly a friendly environment? I know interview time is short but you smell some hostility pretty easily in some programs.
2) Computer system: I was shocked to see that some of the big places still use ******ed EMR systems or combined EMR+paper systems.
3) infrastructure: conference rooms, hospital corridors ..etc. some places are pretty nasty
4) and of course the city, location of the hospital, traffic, cost of living, is it a good place to raise a family ...etc
Those are definitely things I'm starting to pay more and more attention to as the interview season goes on. I don't care how strong the program is if I'm going to be miserable.
TJ is a crappy program equal to other crappy community programs in that region, except that it is not a community program. If you have enough good interviews, I would not even bother going there or rank it at the bottom.
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thanks for this info. I feel much better already since I didn't get an invite there.
