Official 2013 Step 1 Experiences and Scores Thread

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I figure now is a good time to jump-start this thread.

Even though some of us who had taken the exam in late-2012 are still awaiting our scores (amid the holiday delays) and could technically still post within last year's thread, it is after all mid-January now, so it's probably apposite that we move forward and hope for a great year.

:luck: Cheers to 2013 :luck:
 
Yeah you're right it's actually odd, but it's from a US med school
Not all that odd. Many US schools do not teach to Step 1. Most people in medical school are smart enough to figure out that Step 1 is tremendously important in terms of future specialty. Some don't actually figure this out until they are studying for Step 1...and they decide to delay. IMO, something needs to be done about the disconnect between curriculum and licensing examinations.
 
People actually tell one another their Step scores in real life? At my school that information is kept close to the vest for whatever reason. Asking one another's step score is worse than saying Voldemort.

I agree. I feel it is a private affair, but those that score high always seem to ....be leaking their info. haha No harm done. People are just extremely happy and proud of their scores. They should be. 🙂


Actually, I have seen people pressure and badger others for the score. Now that is pretty lame, but there it is.
 
For those who have gotten your scores back, what is the mean and standard deviation this year? Last year when I got my score back it was a mean of 224 and a standard deviation of 22. I was just curious how much it changed this year.
 
For those who have gotten your scores back, what is the mean and standard deviation this year? Last year when I got my score back it was a mean of 224 and a standard deviation of 22. I was just curious how much it changed this year.

The new mean: 227 and Standard Deviation: 22
 
I've been messaged by a few humble people who aren't posting on this thread who have scored extremely well. Congrats to everyone for his or her hard work and strong results.

Please ask them to be less humble and share their strategies with us 🙂

Congrats to everyone and thanks for the exceptional writeups this year. It's really helped me figure out how I want to go about studying for the test.
 
Took it yesterday. Was not a big fan of the test. I'd say question breakdown was 40% easy, 20% medium, 20% hard, and 20% ambiguous/weird. I marked down after each block a rough number of questions I felt I had to guess on (with meaning anywhere from being like 60/40 on a question to just having no idea), and that worked out to about 10 questions a block on average.

As far as question breakdown, I thought it was light on path, unfortunately (obviously this is a relative thing - there was still plenty of path). Microbio was a 50/50 split between super easy (chlamydia, gonorrhea presentations) and parasites/protozoa and crap (not a big fan). Anatomy I had one upper limb question (cervical rib) and 10 that involved pelvic anatomy (3 specific to penile and perianal innervation). Neuroanatomy - one MRI, 4 or 5 gross pictures of brainstem (not cross section - being able to identify cranial nerves and whatnot).

I'm not really one to remember questions, so that's all I really recall offhand because they're things that stood out to me.

Practice tests were in the 260+ range. Not expecting to meet my practice test average, don't think I got the prettiest test distribution as far as my strengths/weaknesses. Anywhere in the 235-255 range wouldn't surprise me, and honestly anywhere in there is fine - just want a strong IM or med/peds program. I'll update when scores come in
 
Cetsiphon's prep write-up:
I'll start with what I used for prep, what my practice scores looked like, and my brief thoughts on the test experience itself. I will not post a lengthy analysis of the test content because A: I don't remember any of it, and B: It's not terribly relevant to those of you who are preparing.
Resources:
GT/Firecracker: A big part of my study scheme was GT/Firecracker. I started GT with 1 month left of 1st year. I managed to get all of biochem and micro banked, and because of this I had probably seen most micro topics 30+ times by the time I took the test. I ended up with about 90% banked with around 80% mastery, although with the upgrade to Firecracker it became a little bit harder to track my progress. This resource was a HUGE time sink, but I will say that I think it is mostly responsible for my score, and I think it also helped me to do well in some of my classes. The material on GT jived better some classes than others, but it certainly had all the core material drilled into my brain by the time I took my test. GT is a strategy that isn't right for everyone. It takes a massive commitment to get the most out of the program, and if you don't do it right, you're likely to get pissed and drop it. Even if you do it right, you might still get pissed and quit when you have 3 months of 300+ question days. That said, it played to my strengths and study habits well. I liked waking up and knocking out a bunch of review before starting on the stuff pertinent to my current classes. I think that it is a resource that works, but only because it forces you to invest the time to do well. I wouldn't even want to see a total timelog of the time I spent on mine. Also, I stopped using GT during my dedicated prep because I felt it had served its purpose and I wanted to devote my time to questions and practice tests.
USMLERx: This is a good qbank for hammering home more of the basics out of First Aid. It's certainly not a complicated as UWORLD, but I think it has its place in a study regimen. It also has a bunch of nitpicky questions that test a single sentence in FA, but lo and behold some of these topics did show up on the test. You never know where a tidbit is going to get you points on the big day. I did this qbank with classes in the second year. I only got about 2/3 of the way through it, but that was ok with me because, as you'll see, I ended up doing a massive amount of questions.
Kaplan Qbank: Another good qbank. I hated their interface, and I agree with others that their content tends to be a little more obscure and "low yield" than USMLERx or UWORLD, but it still provided more context for the exam. I also did this Qbank during the year and in my dedicated time.
UWORLD: As everyone always says, this is the gold standard. It has many great multistep questions that test finer understanding of topics. I saved this bank for my 6 weeks dedicated time, and when through it once and then my missed questions a second time.
FA: Hardly used. GT is like FA in flashcard form. When I went to start FA during my dedicated prep, I bet I already knew 90% of it. Went through it really fast 1.5x during my six weeks of prep just to keep stuff fresh.
Pathoma: A great program for classwork and step one. I'm tired of writing now, but suffice it to say that I used this all year and went through the videos completely during my dedicated prep. Dr. Sattar's teaching is more in line with how the current step tests: concepts and pathways of disease. Students would do well to check this out.
Scores:
NBME 11 (six weeks out): 247
UWSA1 (five weeks out): 261
UWSA2 (4 weeks out): 265+
NBME 12 (3 weeks out): 254
Free 150: 95%
NBME 13 (2 weeks out): 264
NBME 15 (5 days out): 264
Real Deal 6/27/13: 259
The test day is a blur to me. I remember thinking the vignettes were very long, and there were many tricky questions that I had to mark. I was finishing practice tests with 20 minutes to go over my marked questions, but on the real test I found myself with an average of 7-10 minutes. I usually marked around 10-12 questions per block on the NBMEs, but on the real deal it was closer to 15-17. My strategy was to mark all questions I wasn't absolutely sure about, so that's why it may seem like I had to mark a ton of questions. I would say about 7-10 per block on the real test were headscratchers for me. The others I marked just for confirmation. I think the most important part of my study routine was the millions of questions I did. I did over 5,000 questions just in Qbanks, not counting GT, NBMEs, or UWSAs. I think that this is the best way to prepare for whatever they can throw at you. I guarantee you will also develop a finer understanding of physiology and pathology by learning from your mistakes. I kept what I affectionately call my "error journal," where I wrote down the take-home points from questions I missed, and this was basically my form of annotation. Step 1 is a test that assesses your ability to take rote knowledge and apply it to a new situation. Gone are the times where they ask you about buzzwords straight out of FA. Learn the pathology, and be able to apply it to drugs and physiology, and you will go far. I know that this prep is probably too in depth for some, but it certainly lent me the confidence to as well as I could on Step 1, and I truly felt like I left everything on the table. Thanks to the many people who posted here before me who helped me get to this spot!!
 
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Ok guys, I made a post after my test, and I PMed a guy who asked me a question, so I have a lot of material for a post so I figured I might as well do one. Fire away with any questions and I promise to check periodically. Try to keep it in this thread though and not my PM box. A common theme is striking a good balance between being thorough and wasting too much time. It is easy to annotate a ton, but the benefits diminish the more thorough you are. The balance will be up to you, I cannot tell you how to balance it. I even think I wasted too much time being thorough, although it helped me a lot, I could've spent less time doing things. In hindsight, it worked out, and I do not regret wasting the time, but you get the overall point.

Make sure you sleep at least 7 hours a day. Often times, I went up to 10 hours a day. That's excessive. But at least 7 guys. Don't hurt yourselves on this exam. Lots of sleep + having confidence and only the right amount of anxiety (not excessive) does more wonders than any of you will allow yourselves to believe. Please listen to this. You probably won't if you already break some of these, but I promise you it will help you no matter how much you think you might be wasting time/have too much to do/omg low uworld score kill self and dog.

The main key to my success*********For all you rising MS1ers. Study hard for your classes and do not focus on boards until study period (mine was 40 days). Honestly, you won't have to get exotic with your study sources if you do this, you may honor most if not all your classes, as well as guaranteed to have a great baseline for step 1. As you read below, you'll see I practically did nothing before my study period, and I attribute my success to going hard on my classes the first two years. I know a lot of people who do this and score extremely well. I highly suggest it. My med school is not top 20 or any of that fancy stuff before you ask. Even if you completed MS1 and didn't work hard, work your ass off for MS2 classes and do little step 1 stuff. Maybe hit the intro stuff before the study period during winter/spring break. That's all though.

Test Scores
NBME 7, 11, 12, 13, 15 average = 260 (forgot the individual scores)
UWSA 1 and 2 = 260+ (forgot the scores, less than 265).
Actual score = 260

About the exam itself:
Pholston's advice of hitting biochem, embryo, micro, and pharm in the last few days helped me. I had 0 embryo questions it seemed though unfortunately lol. His plan still helped me on a lot of Q. But honestly they can hit on anything. Biochem questions were really, really simple but a couple I got right only because I reviewed it the last week (yay for pholston).

Goljian's audio for some reason was in my head. It wasn't in my head during uworld q bank or during the NBMEs but for some reason in the high stress situation I heard things he said in my head and got questions right because of him. Could you get it right without his audio? Of course, I have no idea if I would have reasoned through it without him, I'm just saying he helped me net questions.

Pharm for some reason had a lot of questions on the differences between drugs within the same class. I had no idea... just go w your best guess I suppose. It wasn't in 1st aid. Kinda freaked me out lol

It wasn't heavy on neuro or anatomy thank god.

All in all, I'm glad I didn't spend too mcuh time on neuroanatomy or gross. Maybe it was just my exam though.

Behavorial sciences was so stupid and ambiguous. I hate NBME. It's so stupid. Very difficult.

I reiterate what others said about "what's the next step". Stupid questions, ambiguous, not important in clinical medicine IDGAF what anyone says.

All in all guys. You're gonna be going with your intuition A LOT. I had it down to 2 choices often. No sources would've helped more. Not pathoma or anything like that. It came down to intuition. An open book exam would not have helped me. Stop using the words "high yield". There is no more high yield. The vignette had most of what you needed but there was little high yield stuff. Yea there were some gimmies, but not enough to net a good score in my opinion. You need intuition.

I felt like on my NBMEs every question was easy. I got 260+ with being half asleep. I was not nervous on this exam. I was in a good mindset. Good review past few days. But it was 100x harder than NBMEs. There is a lot of intuition. I think the wildcard for me are those questions as well as behavorial sciences which were stupid and ambiguous (ended up doing ok in hindsight-from an old post). Don't be scared because of this. Just go in there with the correct mindset. It's not as easy. Take it 1 quesion at a time and give your best go. It's a constant battle in there. I'm happy as **** to be done. Your score will be based on your intuition past a certain point. Not based on if you know aortic dissection is ripping chest pain to the back or w/e.

I hope you all do well. I don't know what my score will be. Also, try your best to focus because a lot of times I was wondering between 2 and my eyes somehow caught something in the vignette that clued me in. And listen- I think you should avoid looking at marks when you practice because you're probably going to be tight on time in the real thing moreso than any practice. Give it your best go and move on (seriously, saving the time of clicking the mark button 15 times on a question set might give you extra seconds on the last Q). Even if you have a little time I still just clicked next section because you get tired of the exam. And yes, I think Fa+uworld+nbmes is good enough for the exam, the rest is up to your brain power. I thought I could've done anywhere from 245-260.

Materials/Strategy
Summary of materials- First aid latest version, uworld, NBMEs (do all the extended feeds), pathoma, goljian audio, UWSAs
Before my study period began- I listened to the pertinent goljian audio along with the year 2 class at the time. Renal audio ~ renal unit. I read first aid following each exam for pathophys ONLY. Likewise renal first aid after renal year 2 exam. So that means I didn't read any intro sections before my study period, but I did complete every goljian audio before study period.
My typical day-
1. Read a first aid section
2. Do 1 uworld set/go over explanation; Do a second uworld set/go over explanation
3. Listen to goljian before bedtime and annotate (1 a day, when he would go over something slowly I would just start reading stuff in first aid next to where I annotate, great review at the same time)
+/-4. If have more time, read a section in pathoma, highlight stuff I don't remember from first aid or weren't in first aid. So read the first aid section before the pathoma one to do this. If you have time at end of your study period you can hit up the highlights. It was a tremendous and quick review of all of path in less than 1 day at the end of my study period to do this.

I woke up and would read a section of first aid (the intro sections would take me multiple days though). I didn't always get to finish a section but I tried. I would then do 2 qbank 46 questions uworld TIMED and RANDOM and NOT focused (you will see a topic many times over a longer period of time and thus store it in your long term memory better). When I reviewed, I had first aid by me and would HEAVILY annotate into first aid from uworld on things I thought were important. This could be tricky as you may waste a lot of time doing this if you stray from important details. I took up more time than I thought ended up being useful, but a few things I annotated into the intro sections I reviewed at the end of my study period when I hit the intro sections up again, and a few were on my exam.

FIRST AID- - I completed this source 1x (+referring to it during using ALL other sources + 1x pathophys sections during year 2)
Before study period, I would read a section after my year 2 exam. For ex, after my renal pathophys exam, I would read the section in first aid - quick because I just took an exam on it- and annotate any helpful charts, information, clarifications, ETC. from my class notes into first aid. It was not a heavy annotate, but helped in the end for sure. Not much more to say. Just read it with a focus on understanding what you're reading as well as memorizing pertinent information. The exam focused more on your understanding and intuition, but there were plenty of memorization to go around. Strike a good balance and don't waste too much time. Having a pdf version as welll as hardcopy saved me a tremendous amount of time when I was doing annotating to ctrl+find the topic to write something into from uworld, etc.

UWORLD - I completed this source 1x.
1- if you get a Q wrong, always put in the summary into first aid. Like the 1-2 sentence learning objectives. You don't have to put the whole thing, but get it into first aid if it's not in there in some shape or form.
2- Only review a question extensively if you had no idea, or if you want to know when a different choice would be correct. Like if the answer was pleural effusion, but choice A was pneumothorax and you want to know when pneumothorax would be right, read that. Otherwise, don't feel the need to read EVERYTHING or you'll waste time. This is one of those balance things. You just don't have the time to read everything.
3- Use your discretion on the 2 above on what to annotate and what not to annotate to maximize time and putting in good points. I did not only annotate the summary lines, although I know friends who did this and did very well. I annotated some things from the explanation too.
4- You likely won't be able to read through all your annotates at the end but it will help you learn by writing it down, or reading the relevant FA section at the time. For example, at the beginning I remember little about biochem. So every uworld section with biochem I would go through the pathway in FA to learn it (and annotate into it), and I would hit some pathways like 5+ times over the course of a month and thus remember it better. Study from FA at the same time is great.
5. This is kinda lame, but I kept a word document going of strategy. Like in uworld I would often overthink too much, so I put that down in the word doc. Or I would remind myself to make sure I completely understand the question. For example: Anatomy Q- what nerve is cut v.s. the nerve feeding the muscle likely injured as described in the vignette is (your answer can be different based on the vignette). So make sure you know the question well. Also things like make sure that for picture questions, your answer fits the clinical scenario > what the picture shows as youre more likely to get a correct answer (in my opinion). Stuff like that, and your word doc will look different than mine.
6. Every question you get wrong, read aloud the learning objective at the end, and kind of explain the concept to yourself like you're teaching it. Helps in retention and making sure you're understanding. This was important to me.
7. MAKE SURE you know why you got every single question wrong. Things to ask yourself: Why did I get this question wrong? How could I have gotten it right EVEN WITHOUT KNOWING more knowledge? (This is huge, not every question you'll know the answer to, but you can make an educated guess, and so challenge yourself on Q you get wrong to see how you could've got it right). FOR EVERY QUESTION YOU GET WRONG DO THIS WITH NO EXCEPTION KTHXBYE
8. Read learning objective for every question, even the ones you get right. If you got a question right in the bank and basically had absolutely no problem with it, it's safe to skip the long explanation (not the short one though, but go with your own discretion on that. You have less time than you think in the end you'll see lol

That's all I can think of for uworld right now.

PATHOMA - I completed this 1x + reviewing my highlights
pathoma after you down first aid (I did it along with it as said above, but I think it would be better to do it completely after. Refer to first aid on things you want a refresher on from pathoma. Still do the highlighting, and reviewing the highlighting after). Good source but overrated. I didn't feel like pathoma was needed beyond first aid for the questions I saw. It's still a very good and helpful source especially if you're weak in pathophys, which I made sure I wasn't during year 2.

GOLJIAN AUDIO - I completed this 1x (+1x during year 2)
I listened to all his lectures during year 2 whenever I had to drive for the particular unit his audio pertained to. I made absolutely sure I was listening to every word too lol. Ex. During renal unit I would like to his renal lectures. Kinda helped on some exams for year 2. I listened. to goljian audio 1 hour a day during study period (you can listen at 1.4x speed, which was a good change of pace and he helped me with quite a few questions on test day. I annotated hardcore what he said, which reinforced the info, and I would read along in first aid anything that was around where I annotated if he would go off on a tangent. Guys, it's not that much time everyday. It was weird because I generally didn't think it was AMAZING (it was helpful for sure) on NBMEs but on the real deal when **** hit the fan, I remembered his words playing in my head lol (no joke).

NBMEs - Did all extended feedback except for 6 (in hindsight, you might as well do 6 as well)
Save the NBMEs for after FA/uworld ONLY if you have time to hit all the NBMEs with extended feedback. Basically what I mean is, make sure you do all the NBMEs with extended feedback no matter what. Go over the wrong questions, and then hit the wrong questions in the last 1-2 days of studying. I got a question right because I did that and happy that I did. 1 question can be the difference in your score in the end. And it won't take that much of your time.

Kaplan qbank????If you have time after your year 2 exams in pathophys, do this qbank. Like if your exams are generally on fridays, do this on the weekend. Only add the sections you've already done during year 2, and honestly don't really start using it until pathophys. If you're a daring individual, go ahead and use it during winter break/on down time during micro and pharm. But don't get burned out. Other than that, don't feel the need for a 2nd qbank. Follow what I said above and you really don't need one. I did do the kaplan anatomy qbank in the final week, and it helped me on 1-2 questions on the real deal, which was cool. So kaplan is probably useful, but I wouldn't bother annotating from kaplan unless it's something really profound and really clinical. It will waste too much time IMO. Just use it as a throw away during year 2, and if you're rocking the materials above during your study period and want something more, throw in kaplan qbank, but also weigh that with hitting up another source again. Honestly not necessary, but can help (I won't know for sure because I completed like 600 Q - only anatomy during study period, some pathophys **** during year 2). Not necessary.

USMLE Rx????????I did not buy this or use this. I heard it's pretty much asking questions directly from info from first aid. I honestly don't see the use of doing that. I know it obviously reinforces FA material. But you're trying to save time here. Focus on class work + doing uworld questions +possibly kaplan is MORE MORE than good enough. You do not need something to ask you directly out of FA. Uworld will often do that alone. And the good thing is asking things not really presented the same way in FA. This thing is obviously in my opinion the least important qbank, and not worth doing. Many will disagree on this board, so don't bitch at my post just because of this paragraph. Seriously, don't bitch at this post just bc of this opinion.
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Don't correlate uworld to your predicted score. Just keep getting better and the outlier score you might get (on the low end), just use it as a learning experience. Use the NBMEs to know where you're at, but do them later on because that's more predictive and more time efficient in reviewing answers (you'll get more right later).

In the last week, go over all the intro sections of FA + pharmacology chapter + pharm of every pathophys chapter. This helped me a lot on test day.

At the most, besides FA + uworld + pathoma + goljian audio, the most you should do is high yield neuroanatomy mainly for the IMAGES. If you're especially weak on this like during your MS1 class, then maybe read it (I wasn't weak on it though). I didn't even look at it and was fine, as well as an anatomy resource for images mainly. The thing is, these subjects, especially anatomy that is, is so vast that you'll be lucky to cover everything enough times to master it. But some people say they got a lot, I didn't. What you have to do on these questions on the real deal is use your logic to make the best educated guess and youll usually get it. Making a concerted effort to know these subjects can take away your understanding of other subjects, but at the most those sources can be hit up, nothing more. My friends told me some questions they got, and honestly if you calm down and use logic, don't freak out because it's anatomy, a lot of them can be guessed right.

After you finish FA, reassess your time left. You need to absolutely finish uworld and NBME. So see if you could finish uworld BEFORE NBME, if not start NBME and do uworld on your time when not doing NBME. Take your last NBME ~ 4 days before your exam (not a day later, avoid question burnout).

A lot will depend on how much time you assess that you have left at certain key points.

Goals- Do FA/uworld at the same time
-When finish FA, reassess time and see if you can do uworld before NBMEs
-When finish FA + uworld, do NBMEs + pathoma.

I studied the whole last day up to the very end. I got 6 hours of sleep and hardly rested. In hindsight, I wish I did rest for like at least half a day but it didn't hurt me during the exam. I was fresh and all that. But I think try to tie up what you want to do before that last day. I know it's hard because there's always something to do, but you never know subconsciously how much better your brain performs if you give it a little rest. It can definitely work.
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That's all folks. I feel like I was as all inclusive as my memory could allow for now. Feel free to ask questions.
 
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Do well in your classes. Do as many questions as you can (but review why you got it wrong, why you got it right if you guessed it, and why other answers are wrong if you don't know why). Pick a repetitive study mechanism (GT/FC was mine; could be anki, could be FA, doesn't matter) and stick with it. Watch Pathoma or listen to Goljan. Do as many NBMEs as you can afford to. Don't ignore your weak subjects. Make an effort to understand things you don't (don't just memorize without knowing why when there's a mechanism to know). Make a study plan, and then actually stick to it. And stop reading threads like this between dedicated prep time and test day.

Above all: don't panic.

Uworld 80% first pass timed/random. Practice exams ranged from ~230 (early) to ~270 (late). 265 on the real deal.
 
for people like me who found significant peace of mind by seeing that practice scores are indeed indicative of the real deal...

UWSA1 (4 weeks out)- 234
NBME11 (2 weeks out)- 235
NBME12 (1 week out)- 245
NBME13 (5 days out)- 240
UWSA2 (4 days out)- 252
NBME15 (2 days out)- 252
free 150 (day before)- 93%

practice test avg = 243

real deal= 247

very happy, can't beat yourself up over not scoring at peak practice test. too much variability between forms to not expect a several point fluctuation, the standard error on the real deal is 6 anyhow... i did dit (huge waste of time and ridiculously overpriced for what you get- i dont attribute much of my score to dit). also did pathoma (amazing) and FA (necessary) several times over in the 4.5 weeks between m2 and test date. UWorld was the best resource of all, scored from 65 to 85% with avg. somewhere in low 70s. these last three resources are the key to success on step 1 in my book
 
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Some brief info.
New account to stay on the DL.

Materials: FA annotated with Pathoma 1x
Qbanks: Kaplan 55% (Pre-dedicated, 60% complete), UWorld 64% overall (100% complete, avg on last 10 was about 68%), USMLE Rx 72% (25% complete) and prediction was a 237.
Study time: 5 weeks
1st/2nd year avg test score: 82 (40%ile)

NBME 5 (baseline 5weeks before): 193
NBME 7 (4 weeks out): 210
NBME 11 (2 weeks out): 231
UWSA1 (1 week out): 247
Free 150 (4 days out): 84%
Real thing: 234

Can't say I'm too shocked, mostly relieved. My baseline score was scary, but I'm glad I improved 40+ points by hitting FA hard. Picking up the score to 220 is easy by just filling in gaps on FA. The rest was all UWorld and critical thinking. I was expecting a 230+, hoping for a 240+, but I can't complain.

Good luck to all.
 
Hey guys so I have a little less than 4wks until my exam. I've just finished UWorld 1st pass timed random at 70%, the last 15 tests averaged 78%. I did NBME 7 2wks ago and got 224 (lower than I expected), I did NBME 11 1wk ago and got 240.

I've just been using UWorld, Pathoma, and FirstAid with a little help from the Costanzo Physio text for clarifications. What can I do to max out my score with the time I have left?
 
I want to add - for those of you who are totally overwhelmed by the number of sources available, I can confirm that you can score 240+ with a single source of information plus UWorld Qbank.

I used Doctors in Training a month before the exam (30 days of lectures), following it exactly as scheduled (~8 lectures a day) and UWorld Qbank and scored a 244. That was up from a base of 200 on the CBSE before I started.

I'm sure the same holds true for First Aid.
 
I am a DO student so I used:
Kaplan Q-bank with classes: 78%
Combank for fine tuning during spring break and classes: 78%
Comquest during the final push: 82%
UWorld: 76% used wide open in timed mode first time through
U-world SA 1: 241 3 months prior during spring break
U-World SA 2: 261 2 weeks prior
COMSAE 1,2,3: 600, 561, 650


Used Pathoma with classes. Smashed through FA 3 days prior and used it to fine tune after two weeks of questions on subjects I was week on. I dedicated 5 weeks of hard core study time. Over my M2 year and board study I did close to 7500 questions. I took the COMLEX a week before the USMLE.

USMLE actual: 255
COMLEX actual: 722

I think the biggest thing I learned from taking the exams and seeing my scores, which is particularly true with the COMLEX, the try to make you feel uncomfortable. I left both tests thinking I was going to score well below par of my goal. I actually exceeded my goal. So after you leave the exam let it go you probably did better than you think. Cheers
 
All in all guys. You're gonna be going with your intuition A LOT. I had it down to 2 choices often. No sources would've helped more. Not pathoma or anything like that. It came down to intuition. An open book exam would not have helped me. Stop using the words "high yield". There is no more high yield. The vignette had most of what you needed but there was little high yield stuff. Yea there were some gimmies, but not enough to net a good score in my opinion. You need intuition.

This is extremely true. I think the best way to prepare for a lot of these questions is just to work hard your first couple of years to develop a good foundation of knowledge that will help guide you away from distractor questions and then go with your gut. It was frightening to me how many questions on the exam were like this. JP speaks the truth.
 
Not posting my exact score, but it was in the 250s.


People sometimes post long drawn-out study plans that can cause people unneeded anxiety. (imo)

You can get 260+ with just qbanks and first aid.

My sources: FA, UWorld, Kaplan qbank, usmlerx.

The rest is up to luck and/or just happening to know something.
 
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Not posting my exact score, but it was in the 250s.


People sometimes post long drawn-out study plans that can cause people unneeded anxiety.

You can get 260+ with just qbanks and first aid.

My sources: FA, UWorld, Kaplan qbank, usmlerx.

The rest is up to luck and/or just happening to know something.

I think that's 100% true!
I finished 2000 Qs from usmlerx and I can feel myself understanding FA on a way deeper level than before starting it.
So I can really imagine what would this level of understanding be after finishing usmlerx, Kaplan and UW.
and pathoma on the way.

People who have difficulties retaining information or who tend to just read without hanging on every word in the text then Qbanks are the best way to help you retain and pay attention to the details you skim through ...
 
This is extremely true. I think the best way to prepare for a lot of these questions is just to work hard your first couple of years to develop a good foundation of knowledge that will help guide you away from distractor questions and then go with your gut. It was frightening to me how many questions on the exam were like this. JP speaks the truth.

I'll also echo this sentiment. I can't think of how I would have prepared for a lot of those questions
 
I got a 238.

Anyway, my question to you guys that are scoring super duper high is: are you guys going to shoot for something really competitive now that you did score super duper high? Will your achievement change your plans at all? Or were you always aiming to get that score in hopes to land your dream specialty, which you most certainly are closer to attaining?

I've always wanted EM and feel like I am still in the running. Hoping!
 
I got a 238.

Anyway, my question to you guys that are scoring super duper high is: are you guys going to shoot for something really competitive now that you did score super duper high? Will your achievement change your plans at all? Or were you always aiming to get that score in hopes to land your dream specialty, which you most certainly are closer to attaining?

I've always wanted EM and feel like I am still in the running. Hoping!

Your step 1 score shouldn't change what your interests are. The worst thing it could do is close doors on a specialty you've wanted. Going for a specialty simply because of competitiveness or salary may make you miserable. And you will be fine for EM with that very solid score.
 
I appreciate the encouragement, D elegans, thanks! And you're definitely right about what you said there. I suppose the reason I asked the question was because I am more used to hearing how the USMLE closes doors for people like you stated. I was curious to see, especially after reading how surprised some people are with their 250/260+'s, how their plans change when the exam opens doors for them. But again, I definitely agree that the test shouldn't change our interests. I am on rotations now for a moderately competitive specialty. There is little chance I would choose this specialty for myself even if I had scored tremendously well based on my experiences thus far.
 
Half these scores are full of ****.
(And no i didn't get my scores back and neither did i sit for the exam yet).

Nah, they're probably legitimate scores. Tons of lurkers come out of hiding every year to post scores in this thread when they do well, only to disappear again until ERAS goes live. There are just as many lurkers who didn't do as well as they'd hoped and just aren't posting.

Hundreds of people score >250 each year, it's not at all surprising that a portion of them frequent SDN in one way or another, right? Same thing happens on the MCAT forums & school-specific discussions. High achievers love this forum.
 
Half these scores are full of ****.
(And no i didn't get my scores back and neither did i sit for the exam yet).

Around 450 (give or take) people a year get above a 260.
Out of the people I personally know who got above a 250 or higher, 7 out 10 of them have read/used or still read/use SDN at some point significantly to help with their MCAT or Step I or just to lollygag around.
Is it so hard to believe that 8-12% of people getting 260+ are SDN users?
Most people who do great aren't going to keep their scores a secret for long and people who did less than they wanted will likely never tell anyone beyond a few vague responses.
Reporting bias etc.
It's not like anyone is getting a round of applause for their grades here, it seems ridiculous to purposefully post about a score nowhere near your actual score for anonymous internet kudos.
 
Looking at various acceptance rates, it seems that unless you're trying to get into Plastics, any score above ~235 yields pretty high probabilities of matching. Including stuff like Derm and Anesthesiology.

So yeah, nobody should be ashamed of scoring in the 230's even when people are talking about getting 260+.

In the end, all that matters is matching where you want to go.
 
I think that's 100% true!
I finished 2000 Qs from usmlerx and I can feel myself understanding FA on a way deeper level than before starting it.
So I can really imagine what would this level of understanding be after finishing usmlerx, Kaplan and UW.
and pathoma on the way.

People who have difficulties retaining information or who tend to just read without hanging on every word in the text then Qbanks are the best way to help you retain and pay attention to the details you skim through ...

Yeah, Rx is essential. Awesome resource.
 
I got a 238.

Anyway, my question to you guys that are scoring super duper high is: are you guys going to shoot for something really competitive now that you did score super duper high? Will your achievement change your plans at all? Or were you always aiming to get that score in hopes to land your dream specialty, which you most certainly are closer to attaining?

I've always wanted EM and feel like I am still in the running. Hoping!

Your step 1 score shouldn't change what your interests are. The worst thing it could do is close doors on a specialty you've wanted. Going for a specialty simply because of competitiveness or salary may make you miserable. And you will be fine for EM with that very solid score.

I appreciate the encouragement, D elegans, thanks! And you're definitely right about what you said there. I suppose the reason I asked the question was because I am more used to hearing how the USMLE closes doors for people like you stated. I was curious to see, especially after reading how surprised some people are with their 250/260+'s, how their plans change when the exam opens doors for them. But again, I definitely agree that the test shouldn't change our interests. I am on rotations now for a moderately competitive specialty. There is little chance I would choose this specialty for myself even if I had scored tremendously well based on my experiences thus far.

Step1 shouldn't impact one's decision to change specialty because his or her interests should be routed to passion, not numerical credentials. But the truth is, there will always be a percentage that reconsiders specialty after the scores come back. Some people really are just uncertain as to what they want to do (particularly after MS2), and good scores do open doors. I personally know people who have chosen particular specialties based on what I'd consider very weak reasons (e.g. radiology/derm for easy schedule + high pay), but what other people choose to do with their lives isn't something that should concern us.
 
Half these scores are full of ****.
(And no i didn't get my scores back and neither did i sit for the exam yet).

Nah, they're probably legitimate scores. Tons of lurkers come out of hiding every year to post scores in this thread when they do well, only to disappear again until ERAS goes live. There are just as many lurkers who didn't do as well as they'd hoped and just aren't posting.

Hundreds of people score >250 each year, it's not at all surprising that a portion of them frequent SDN in one way or another, right? Same thing happens on the MCAT forums & school-specific discussions. High achievers love this forum.

The scores are real (suspicious ones are first-time posters with huge scores and relatively short study plans). Just realize that SDN has significant reporter bias (i.e. people with high scores are more likely to post). Plus, people who care enough to use this forum tend to be the same people who care enough to study hard to do well (i.e. someone who doesn't care and doesn't study won't bother to follow study plans on here). The SDN average probably sits in the 240s, despite the true average being ~227. It's only when you get into the real world beyond Step1 do you realize how rare good scores actually are. Most of my students would be ecstatic with a 240. On the other hand, I think this forum is healthy to prevent one's head from getting big. This guy that I lecture with here at my school got a 247, and I can tell that he thinks it's a really big deal. I haven't told him what I got, but I keep thinking to myself that the healthiest thing for him would be a day spent on SDN. :laugh:
 
Guys, so if the mean is 227 now, and the SD is 22, does that mean 84th %ile is a 249 and 95% is a 271? No way a 271 is just the 95th percentile...
 
Guys, so if the mean is 227 now, and the SD is 22, does that mean 84th %ile is a 249 and 95% is a 271? No way a 271 is just the 95th percentile...

95% of values fall within +/- 2 SDs, but 2 SDs above the mean isn't the 95th percentile, since half of the remaining 5% are the extreme left; 271 would be 97.5th percentile.

Gotta watch those biostats Qs, bro.
 
Guys, so if the mean is 227 now, and the SD is 22, does that mean 84th %ile is a 249 and 95% is a 271? No way a 271 is just the 95th percentile...

95% of values fall within +/- 2 SDs, but 2 SDs above the mean isn't the 95th percentile, since half of the remaining 5% are the extreme left; 271 would be 97.5th percentile.

Gotta watch those biostats Qs, bro.

With that correction in mind, skewed data has an effect on standard deviation. Saying anything beyond that would be guessing on my part, but there is almost certainly some skew, otherwise, based on that SD, scores in the 280's would be common. I don't know why the NBME, if they're willing to report SD, don't just give every score a percentile. Doesn't really matter though
 
Guys, so if the mean is 227 now, and the SD is 22, does that mean 84th %ile is a 249 and 95% is a 271? No way a 271 is just the 95th percentile...
No real distribution is that perfect though- I remember somebody made a graph from the 2011 charting the match about a year ago, and the upper scores were a higher percentile than standard deviations suggested.
 
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USMLE Step 1 mean is 227 now, and the SD is 22.

I know the meaning of mean but what exactly is SD? .....practically i could not understand it in terms of score...can anyone explain me what is SD
 
USMLE Step 1 mean is 227 now, and the SD is 22.

I know the meaning of mean but what exactly is SD? .....practically i could not understand it in terms of score...can anyone explain me what is SD
SD (standard deviation) = a measure of the variability of a data set about the mean. 1 standard deviation in a normal distribution above and below the mean contains 65% of scores, 2 standard deviations above and below the mean contain 95% of the scores, 3 SD's contains 99.7% of the scores (see graph below). A standard deviation of 22 means that based on a normal distribution of scores of USMLE test takers 65% of scores fall between 227 +/- 22 ( 205 - 249), 95% of scores fall between 183 - 271. This allows for one to determine approximately in what percentile they scored.




400px-Standard_deviation_diagram.svg.png
 
SD (standard deviation) = a measure of the variability of a data set about the mean. 1 standard deviation in a normal distribution above and below the mean contains 65% of scores, 2 standard deviations above and below the mean contain 95% of the scores, 3 SD's contains 99.7% of the scores (see graph below). A standard deviation of 22 means that based on a normal distribution of scores of USMLE test takers 65% of scores fall between 227 +/- 22 ( 205 - 249), 95% of scores fall between 183 - 271. This allows for one to determine approximately in what percentile they scored.




400px-Standard_deviation_diagram.svg.png


thank you for your explanation with example. Now picture is clear for me.
 
SD (standard deviation) = a measure of the variability of a data set about the mean. 1 standard deviation in a normal distribution above and below the mean contains 65% of scores, 2 standard deviations above and below the mean contain 95% of the scores, 3 SD's contains 99.7% of the scores (see graph below). A standard deviation of 22 means that based on a normal distribution of scores of USMLE test takers 65% of scores fall between 227 +/- 22 ( 205 - 249), 95% of scores fall between 183 - 271. This allows for one to determine approximately in what percentile they scored.

This is true ideally and a good way to show the basics but Step 1 scores have a positive (right) skew. Essentially more people are in the score ranges below average (Mean > Median > Mode in right skewed distributions) and a score at 270+ is more likely to be in the 99th percentile than the 97.5th percentile.
This is probably why the score result reports most grades are in the 140-260 range I think that's a way of them saying 140-260 range is where 95% of grades are (2 SD's).
Here is a good picture:

skew.jpg
 
Hey guys
So I took the test on a Tuesday (July/9th) and this Wednesday (24th) is going to mark the 3rd Wednesday after my test. I don't know if the Wednesday right after the test should be included in that calculation though? In other words, should I be expecting my score this Wednesday or next Wednesday?

I'm dying to find out! +pissed+
 
Hey guys
So I took the test on a Tuesday (July/9th) and this Wednesday (24th) is going to mark the 3rd Wednesday after my test. I don't know if the Wednesday right after the test should be included in that calculation though? In other words, should I be expecting my score this Wednesday or next Wednesday?

I'm dying to find out! +pissed+

June 29th here. The hyperlink to my permit finally went away. Check to see if yours is gone, that seems to be the leading indicator.

4th Wednesday for me.
 
This is true ideally and a good way to show the basics but Step 1 scores have a positive (right) skew. Essentially more people are in the score ranges below average (Mean > Median > Mode in right skewed distributions) and a score at 270+ is more likely to be in the 99th percentile than the 97.5th percentile.
This is probably why the score result reports most grades are in the 140-260 range I think that's a way of them saying 140-260 range is where 95% of grades are (2 SD's).
Here is a good picture:

skew.jpg

140-260 is where ~97.5% of scores are, not 95%. Scores <181 are grouped into their own bracket, so 140 is probably the lowest score achieved for those who actually finish the exam. In 2009 and 2011, the <181 bracket was the bottom 0.5% and 0.9% of scores, respectively, when taking into account all applicants to the match (145/26651 & 247/26880). For the >260 bracket (261+), the lower-bound percentile of 98.65 in 2009 and 97.96 in 2011 indicate that +2SD is still at the 260-mark.

When comparing the 2009 and 2011 graphs, both ends of the spectrum have increased in #, where the amplitude of the curve toward the middle has decreased. So more people are scoring better, but more people are also scoring worse.

The curves are certainly positively-skewed.
 

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Hey guys,

So I took Step 1 on July 8, should I be expecting my scores tomorrow? (July 24). This will be about 2 weeks. I've heard of some friends lately getting them back in 2 weeks.

I checked my NBME status and I can still print my permit, but it shows expires on July 31. Does this mean anything?

Also, some feedback on the test: I honestly felt like I did bad on this test. I felt like any more studying would not have helped at all. It was more intuition and answering questions by process of elimination more than anything. I felt like I did not do as good as I was doing on UWorld questions or the assessment exams. Here is how I felt by each section:

Section 1: Easiest one, marked 6 questions, had time to review all.
Section 2: Hardest one; marked about 20, no time to review
Section 3: Second Hardest, marked about 15, no time to review
Sections 4-7: Medium difficulty, marked on average 10-12 questions per block. Had maybe 1-2 mins to review.

If I had to guess a raw percentage score I honestly felt like I got maybe 60-65% correct. Felt pretty bad about it actually.
 
Hey guys,

So I took Step 1 on July 8, should I be expecting my scores tomorrow? (July 24). This will be about 2 weeks. I've heard of some friends lately getting them back in 2 weeks.

I checked my NBME status and I can still print my permit, but it shows expires on July 31. Does this mean anything?

Also, some feedback on the test: I honestly felt like I did bad on this test. I felt like any more studying would not have helped at all. It was more intuition and answering questions by process of elimination more than anything. I felt like I did not do as good as I was doing on UWorld questions or the assessment exams. Here is how I felt by each section:

Section 1: Easiest one, marked 6 questions, had time to review all.
Section 2: Hardest one; marked about 20, no time to review
Section 3: Second Hardest, marked about 15, no time to review
Sections 4-7: Medium difficulty, marked on average 10-12 questions per block. Had maybe 1-2 mins to review.

If I had to guess a raw percentage score I honestly felt like I got maybe 60-65% correct. Felt pretty bad about it actually.

You took step-1 on July 8,2013, so you can expect results only on July 31,2013 not on July 24,2013. All the best
 
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