Official 2014 Step 1 Experiences and Scores Thread

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Hey guys,
I am long time lurker, first time poster
I really need help right now, especially from those who took their exam. My NBME scores are all over the place and only 10 days left to my exam. I would love to hear your suggestions:

NBME 7 -> 245 (10 wks out)
NBME 12 -> 234 (8 wks out and WTF! moment)
NBME 11 -> 258 (4 wks out)
NBME 13 -> 251 (3 wks out)
NBME 15 -> 245 (today)

My target score >250. However, it is extremely disappointing having the same score after 10 wks intense study period.

Thanks,
 
Hey guys,
I am long time lurker, first time poster
I really need help right now, especially from those who took their exam. My NBME scores are all over the place and only 10 days left to my exam. I would love to hear your suggestions:

NBME 7 -> 245 (10 wks out)
NBME 12 -> 234 (8 wks out and WTF! moment)
NBME 11 -> 258 (4 wks out)
NBME 13 -> 251 (3 wks out)
NBME 15 -> 245 (today)

My target score >250. However, it is extremely disappointing having the same score after 10 wks intense study period.

Thanks,

Do NBME 16 and see how your score turns out
7, 13, 15 and 16 are much more predictive than 11, 12.
Attack your worst subjects on the NBME and hope for the best.
Best of luck in the real deal.
 
Just a copy of my (redacted) score report in case anyone was wondering. Now that I've had some time to think about it, I feel like I probably understated the value of UW, Pathoma, and Goljan in my preparation. Since I was using UW as an assessment tool, I found that the subject breakdowns really helped to keep track of strengths and weaknesses throughout MS2. For pathology, I used Pathoma and Goljan audio to build a solid foundation prior to flagging/answering all the relevant topics (while annotating Pathoma material into the margins) on Firecracker. But I would only consider a particular subject "mastered" after I am able to correctly answer all the Firecracker questions on that subject with at least 1 week of spacing for all of those questions. My standard levels of spacing for new topics would be: 1 day, 2 days, 3 days, 4 days, 5 days, 7 days, 11 days, 14 days, 21 days, 1 month, 3 months, "never see again", while making adjustments depending on the amount of material that needed to be recalled for each question. Most of the subjects that I covered during summer break and the fall MS2 semester ended up at the 3 months or "never see again" level while most of the subjects covered from the spring semester onward stayed at the 1 month level. I would then do UW questions on the material I considered "mastered" and would regularly notice a dramatic improvement on that subject. I would then repeat this cycle for all the other subjects. Probably the most underrated step in this process was regularly doing honest self-assessments of progress and weaknesses since it really allowed me to target my studying toward subjects with the greatest room for improvement.




Congratulations on your score as well! I'm sure the only difference between our scores probably came down to just a single question or so, at which point it pretty much comes down to luck. At any rate, it's great to see another person here with a similar preparation experience and distaste for FA do so well on the exam. I also had a similar experience with many of my MS2 lectures, basically ignoring most of the pathology/pathophysiology lectures (which were probably more Step 2 focused) in favor of Pathoma, Goljan audio, and Rapid Review, all of which were much more Step 1-focused and organize the material in a way that made much more sense including many of the paired-opposites and disease-specific elements that you mentioned (eg. I felt like I finally memorized nephrotic syndromes after seeing Pathoma organize them in groups of 2's). If nothing else, I think we showed that doing complete read-through's of FA, although high-yield and useful for certain sections, is not an absolute prerequisite for doing well on the exam.

How did you make the standard level of spacing like that? How can you chose beyond 5 different scores?
 
Hey guys,
I am long time lurker, first time poster
I really need help right now, especially from those who took their exam. My NBME scores are all over the place and only 10 days left to my exam. I would love to hear your suggestions:

NBME 7 -> 245 (10 wks out)
NBME 12 -> 234 (8 wks out and WTF! moment)
NBME 11 -> 258 (4 wks out)
NBME 13 -> 251 (3 wks out)
NBME 15 -> 245 (today)

My target score >250. However, it is extremely disappointing having the same score after 10 wks intense study period.

Thanks,
I don't see anything to be concerned about here since a 5-6 point drop is probably not even statistically significant.
I suggest not doing another NBME this close to the test since you are not going to achieve much.
A small drop close to test is expected for human beings due to nerves but on the test day you will be on autopilot after a couple of blocks.
However, if you can afford it I suggest doing Integrated Cases for USMLE Step 1 - Dr. Lionel Raymon.
I participated in an one hour sample live webinar a few days ago and must say that I was blown away....it's like new Goljan on steroids!

Disclaimer: I have not taken the Step 1 yet.
 
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How did you make the standard level of spacing like that? How can you chose beyond 5 different scores?

Couldn't really do that with the native FC interface, although there are certain fixed patterns to its "adaptive" spacing, but you have to basically ignore the 1-5 scoring system. For example, if you repeatedly give yourself a score of 3 for every new question (I always use Shift+Enter to see how far in the future it will reschedule the question), it'll go by a pattern of 2 days, 4 days, 5 days, 5 days, then 6 days and remain at 6 days forever. At first, I would give myself a score of 1 or 2 (even if I already knew the subject really well) and manually adjust the spacing for 1, 2, and 3 days. After that, I'd just use FC's native adaptive spacing and repeatedly give myself a score of 3 for the question until it would reschedule in 6 days. At that point, I'd escalate my score to 4, manually adjusting to 7 days, and repeatedly go with that score while making minor adjustments to the spacing as I felt necessary. This way, I'd see the same question/topic approximately 6 times before "mastering" it at a score of 4. Since a score of 4 would eventually plateau at 30 days, I'd sometimes go with a 5 for questions I knew I wouldn't forget for over a month and adjust the spacing to up to 45-60 days, and if I still answered the question in less than 10-15 seconds after that long, I knew I'd be comfortable with "never see again".

I would love to see the breakdown by subject. Are there any subjects in which there are no stars?

Nutrition was probably my worst subject, being the only one with part of the bar in the "borderline performance" area. As I've mentioned, there were a number of tough nutrition questions, including a couple asking specifically about which food would you choose to add to the patient's diet as well as one about enteral vs TPN (seemed more like step 2 types of questions). Otherwise, I had stars for the rest of the "Discipline" subjects and missed out on a star for 1 of the "System" subjects (MSK/Skin/Subcutaneous).
 
Don't want to derail thread, but I keep seeing goljan audio in this thread and yet can't find a place to buy. One website offered it plus high yield notes but it would never let me pay. Would really appreciate if someone would pm a link or something.
 
Don't want to derail thread, but I keep seeing goljan audio in this thread and yet can't find a place to buy. One website offered it plus high yield notes but it would never let me pay. Would really appreciate if someone would pm a link or something.

Torrent
 
Don't want to derail thread, but I keep seeing goljan audio in this thread and yet can't find a place to buy. One website offered it plus high yield notes but it would never let me pay. Would really appreciate if someone would pm a link or something.
I don't think you can get this stuff legally anymore.
 
Hey all, congrats on everyone achieving amazing scores on Step 1. I was just wondering after reading a couple of posts on how it seems Step 1 is becoming a bit harder and how med students should be familiar with more and more aspects of a disease, does anyone think that maybe reading First Aid Step 2 CK might help with retaining some information seen on Step 1? Of course med school courses/High Yield Step 1 Review Books/Step 1 First Aid/Question Banks should take priority in studying for step 1, but would it be a little helpful to get a step 2 ck review book to help in prep as well? Just curious if anyone else there thought about this idea as well or would this be a complete waste of time.

I don't think Step 1 is becoming harder at all; people are just scoring better. Increasing average scores mean that the test is easier (unlikely), students are smarter than their predecessors (also unlikely), or test prep is now better.
 
Typically the trend from what I have read. I would quote them but I can't remember where I read it.

If you write on WED, THR, FRI== the scores should be back by 3rd wed
If you write on SAT, SUN, MON, TUES= the scores are back on the 4th wed.

In both cases I knew someone who wrote their exam on Fri and Sun and the trend did apply.
This post should have it's own thread and stickied. The question about when scores get back is probably asked 50 times in the experiences thread. I've seen it so many times myself and forgot where to go to find an answer to it.

I don't think you can get this stuff legally anymore.

As far as I know, there was no official audio so however and whenever it was obtained was thru less than virtuous means.
 
I took my exam on the 10th of July, will my score come out tomorrow?
Can't find my scheduling permit either.
 
My link is also gone! Are you guys able to appply for Step 2? The site lets me apply for step 2 but it doesnt let me do the same for step 1. Is this a good sign?
 
nice, pretty much mirrors what I did. I tried Firecracker for a few months but I personally gave up on it around February or so. It wasn't working for me, but I do see the value in it for someone who sticks it through.

But just about everything else looks like what I did for my own prep. Grats on the great score!

I think that people who do firecracker are really good at quick recall but relatively weak in understanding why things are the way they are. For example, a classmate was asked what organisms are responsible for infections like meningitis in people less than 1 month old and they rattled off group b strep, listeria, hsv and e coli quickly but they didn't understand that it's like that because the baby just came from the vaginal canal.
 
I think that people who do firecracker are really good at quick recall but relatively weak in understanding why things are the way they are. For example, a classmate was asked what organisms are responsible for infections like meningitis in people less than 1 month old and they rattled off group b strep, listeria, hsv and e coli quickly but they didn't understand that it's like that because the baby just came from the vaginal canal.

Nice observation. What would you suggest a firecracker user to supplement their study with to remedy this?
 
Nice observation. What would you suggest a firecracker user to supplement their study with to remedy this?

Read goljan, he is great with explaining things. It's a huge time sink though. I've heard of people reading through Robbins which I don't suggest as it is long and boring (I tried).
 
I think that people who do firecracker are really good at quick recall but relatively weak in understanding why things are the way they are. For example, a classmate was asked what organisms are responsible for infections like meningitis in people less than 1 month old and they rattled off group b strep, listeria, hsv and e coli quickly but they didn't understand that it's like that because the baby just came from the vaginal canal.

You could say the same thing about "people who do FA" if that's the only resource they're using to study. I'd argue that anyone who can only recall facts without understanding why, no matter what resource they use, will probably not do as well on the exam as a person with a better understanding of underlying mechanisms. In my experience, I've found that people who have extensively used FC, supplemented with various other resources like Pathoma/Goljan/UW/Rx/Kaplan/etc., almost always have a great understanding of these mechanisms since I really don't know of anyone who only uses FC as their only resource.
 
You could say the same thing about "people who do FA" if that's the only resource they're using to study. I'd argue that anyone who can only recall facts without understanding why, no matter what resource they use, will probably not do as well on the exam as a person with a better understanding of underlying mechanisms. In my experience, I've found that people who have extensively used FC, supplemented with various other resources like Pathoma/Goljan/UW/Rx/Kaplan/etc., almost always have a great understanding of these mechanisms since I really don't know of anyone who only uses FC as their only resource.

I'm a third year, my classmates and I have all taken step 1. No one uses FC as their only resource, I'm just relaying my impression of those who used it. Everyone uses a variety of resources for the exam. Take from it what you will, it's just one person's observation.
 
I think that people who do firecracker are really good at quick recall but relatively weak in understanding why things are the way they are. For example, a classmate was asked what organisms are responsible for infections like meningitis in people less than 1 month old and they rattled off group b strep, listeria, hsv and e coli quickly but they didn't understand that it's like that because the baby just came from the vaginal canal.

This is false to an extent. FC is like anything else in that what you get out what you put into it. I could only see people having poor understanding that try to use FC as a primary learning tool and not a supplement for after they have already covered things. It would be similar to using just First Aid to learn. If you're using FC properly, you should also have good understanding. Remembering random detail is possible when you've flagged maybe only 20% of the bank, but once you get above 60-70% or after you've been using the product for a year or more, there's no way to keep up your mastery % if you don't actually understand the material you're being quizzed on.


Edit: my jimmies got rustled and I replied before I read the rest of the thread and it someone commented essentially the same thing.
 
I can't apply for any of them, says that an open Step 1 registration exists. Now I'm nervous, just gonna get off this site until tomorrow.

If I try to apply for Step 1, it says that an open Step 1 registration already exists. However, If i try to apply for any Step 2 or both, then I click "Next" and keep on going all the way until payment information. Has anybody else noticed this?
 
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If I try to apply for Step 1, it says that an open Step 1 registration already exists. However, If i try to apply for any Step 2 or both, then I click "Next" and keep on going all the way until payment information. Has anybody else noticed this?

Okay, now mine is doing the same thing. I wouldn't put too much stock in it, though. Did you ever try to apply for step 2 before your permit disappeared?
 
Hi all.

I just finish my step 1. I was feeling "calm" but now I found out that I made a couple of mistakes in very straightforward questions.

Just wanted to get some advice from you guys about my probable step. I know the NBME are somewhat "predictive" but I have lost some of my confidence.

I did NBME 16 (5 days before exam): 247
UWSA 2 (1.5 weeks before): 244
And free 150: 90%

Usually most folks overscore on UWSA #2........that is an outliner. But, I imagine based on your numbers. a 240+ is safe.

Would be nice to know if you did any other NBMEs in the last couple of weeks to average in.
 
Nice observation. What would you suggest a firecracker user to supplement their study with to remedy this?

I use FC and I still have a good understanding of the correct answers. FC is a method for me to be able to rattle things off quickly instead of having to reason through every single question on an exam.

Using that neonatal meningitis example, if you ask me for the mcc and I don't remember that it's GBS, I will be able to reason through the list of answer choices and pick the one related to the vaginal canal. However, if I do remember that it's GBS (because of FC) then I don't have to waste any time thinking about the reasoning or reading the other answer choices.

Being able to answer the same question in multiple ways is a good strategy to have for exams.
 
Officially Signed up for my exam....Aug 29th....ughhhhhh here we go with the home stretchh..12 hour reading days of First Aid and Uworld..blahhh
 
Hey guys I've been lurking for the past 1.5 months (i.e. since I started studying)

Full Disclaimer: I am a carib student so I guess I had a bit more time than the USmeds

anyways

I did uworld twice (76% the first time and 90%) the second, FA three times (once with DIT; also I like to read it fast and more often than read slow), Pathoma once the week before

NBME 7: 257
NBME 9: 252
NBME 11: 252
NBME 12: 249
NBME 15:252
NBME 16: 251

Real Deal: 252

I've been looking through this thread to calm my nerves while I get my results back and from the looks of things your NBMEs are spot on.

Regrets/done differently: I wish I had more time to do Pathoma twice. Better yet, had I known I would have studied goljan during my last semester.
 
Hey guys I've been lurking for the past 1.5 months (i.e. since I started studying)

Full Disclaimer: I am a carib student so I guess I had a bit more time than the USmeds

anyways

I did uworld twice (76% the first time and 90%) the second, FA three times (once with DIT; also I like to read it fast and more often than read slow), Pathoma once the week before

NBME 7: 257
NBME 9: 252
NBME 11: 252
NBME 12: 249
NBME 15:252
NBME 16: 251

Real Deal: 252

I've been looking through this thread to calm my nerves while I get my results back and from the looks of things your NBMEs are spot on.

Regrets/done differently: I wish I had more time to do Pathoma twice. Better yet, had I known I would have studied goljan during my last semester.

First off, congrats on a great score! I was hoping you could answer a few questions for me?

When were did you take the NBME? Did you take a baseline at the star of your dedicated?

Which Carib school did you come from? Or if you are privacy sensitive could you tell us if it was big 4 or not?

You seemed to do well on all of your NBME, what did you do during basic sciences? Which resources for which classes?

Thanks!
 
1/10 Kaplan Diagnostic - 59%
4/20 NBME 7 - 234
5/2 School Administered NBME - 248
5/24 UWSA1 - 260

——— started “dedicated” 5/29
6/25 NBME 15 - 249 (90%)
7/3 UWSA2 - 265 (86%)
7/6 Free 150 - 90%
7/9 NBME 16 - 262 (94%)

Uworld Qbank - 81% random timed
Kaplan Qbank - 72% by subject
USMLERx - 83%, but I only finished about 25% of it

I used Firecracker, banked 90% of it and had an 86.7% mastery rate. I stopped it about 2 weeks into dedicated period because I was slacking on studying and I wasn’t being efficient enough with my time to do FC and try to get through Uworld/FA

7/11 actual score: 265

Beneath this paragraph is everything I wrote the day after my exam. I just wanted to say that whatever score you want is attainable. It might not come easy, but the beautiful thing about med school is that you don’t have to be smart. Your score and class success will be a direct representation of the amount of work you put in over time. I actually think the work I did over the last year is what contributed the most to my score and not the 6 weeks prior to my exam, which was more for fine tuning. After I unbound my FA and put it in a binder, on the label I put a fairly lofty goal just so I had something to always look at and remind me of what I was working towards. That number ended up being my exact score. I literally just sat in disbelief for 10 minutes at how eerie that was after seeing the report.
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Exam Day
Content-wise, it seemed to be well distributed. The only things that seemed disproportionate in my eyes was the amount of straight anatomy/embryo (between 30-40) and the amount of BHS/biostats questions (between 20 - 30). I noticed that neuro wasn’t on my exam much, maybe a max of 10 questions, but there may be other subjects that weren’t as well represented. I just subjectively thought Neuro/Genitourinary were weaknesses coming into the exam so it was a lot easier to assess the presence of those on my exam. DISCLAIMER: really the content of my exam doesn’t matter, I’m just adding it for completeness sake. Your exam may be the exact opposite.

Question difficulty: Some were a little tricky, but extremely doable, i.e. question regarding mechanism of Metoclopramide where both D2 antagonist and 5HT3 agonist were answers; if you don’t read the stem properly, you could easily get it wrong if you don’t know what they’re asking. I hope this doesn’t constitute giving exam information, since I’m not speaking about the stems or what the answer was, I just want to illustrate that at times there will be best answer type questions or questions that are actually easy, but you need to think about it for a second to make sure your answer matches that needed from the question stem specifically. I saw someone else post a 40/40/20 breakdown as far as difficulty and I would agree, but switch it to 40/50/10. 40% of the questions will be easy if you’ve studied, some of them even joke easy like you could have answered before medical school. The next 50% are very doable if you’ve studied and had a good mastery of the material - this includes the physio type questions that ask you to interpret arrows and graphs and it requires you to relate a couple different things in order to answer the questions, these are really the questions that if you had unlimited time and prepped well, you would get a majority right, but the time crunch makes it tough. The next 10% are the difficult ones. These comprise the questions that require random knowledge, fine detail of major topics, outside exposure to current research, or just lucky guessing. I had a question about the mechanism of a drug that isn’t in FA, Uworld, or Firecracker, but was on the last slide of one of my Pharmacology course lectures. I got it wrong, but I thought it was interesting to see where I could have potentially gotten that point had I been more thorough with my studying. On average I probably marked about 9 questions per block. On the only block I finished with more than 5 minutes to go, I only marked 4. Marked 11 on a few of them.

I didn’t have any break time left so I didn’t get to do the survey at the end. I skipped the tutorial so I had an hour worth of break time. For some reason from reading posts on here it seemed like you only got 45 minutes WITH the extra tutorial time, but it’s actually 45 base, kicking you up to 1 hour if you skip the tutorial. Skipping the tutorial didn’t matter, the only thing that was new was the couple heart sounds I had, which let you click different auscultation sites to see where you heard the murmur the loudest, which you DO have to do, as it makes a difference in the diagnosis. I saw someone here previously post that you could switch between the diaphragm and the bell, but I did not notice that feature with mine, and the auscultation page was the only thing I looked at in the tutorial because of that post. Testing interface, including the format of the lab values was almost the exact same as Uworld.


My dedicated prep plan:
  • finished up Uworld. I went into dedicated period with about 20% of Uworld done. I marked any questions that I got correct that I completely guessed on and marked questions that I knew, but liked the way the question was presented as far as making me think on different levels or just giving me exposure to something I subjectively felt I could use again. I also marked any of the auscultation media questions as I felt that those should be gimmes on the exam if I was familiar with the sounds. I did all my marked questions and incorrects after finishing my first pass. Finished the day before the exam.
    • Want to say I stand by the fact that I think Uworld should be done last and as close to prep period as possible. People have varying opinions on it, but I had seemed to agree more with the people that said save it for last and I think it not only helped me peak at the right time, but got me a couple questions on the exam as well.
  • Almost a full past of First Aid. I didn’t get to go over the Biochem section, but my actual first pass of FA was from January - May along with courses and the biochem section was actually the last one I read. Biochem on my exam was sparse and easy, so I may have lucked out there. **Edit: I just remembered that I never completely read the pharm section of Micro. I hated antimicrobials during my Pharm course and never had a chance to look at it then, and I also skipped this section during dedicated because I remembering falling asleep during it, saying I would do it in the morning, and I never did. Luckily, I don’t recall having 1 antimicrobial pharm question on the exam.
  • NBMEs/Uworld exams. I actually only planned on taking 1 during dedicated, but the 249 kind of killed my buzz, so I decided to take another. My goal was a 260, a dream goal of 265, and an “I’ll settle for it” goal of 255. I feel that taking a bunch of NBMEs isn’t really necessary. It is a more efficient use of your time to study than to just keep taking tests to see what you’re getting wrong. We’re all adults by now. Everyone should be able to objectively say what their weaknesses may be. Doing a bunch of stuff for the fact that you might see it the same way again is a waste. The questions will never be the same. In my whole exam I remember having 1 question with the exact same stem as a question from the free 136 except the last line which ended up asking something different. Who knows though, maybe if I had done more I would have gotten a few repeats. NBMEs are invaluable as an assessment tool. I noticed a trend in errors I was making that lead to me getting questions wrong that I really shouldn’t have. I was also normally solid on my 1st block or two, then progressively declined. I tried my best to minimize these errors for NBME 16 and it paid off.
  • Watched some of the Kaplan Pharm videos on anti arrhythmic drugs and a few other areas I didn’t feel strong in.
  • listened to Goljan while driving or at the gym. I had a few questions that were almost word for word things he spoke about. Amazing how clutch it still is. Listened on my phone and had it sped up to anywhere between 1.5-1.7x. Makes a big difference, the 1x of getting through it during dedicated was probably my 4th time just passively listening since January.
  • Outside of my first couple days of studying and maybe 2 other days when no sports games were on and I had the motivation to do nothing else all day, I probably averaged about 5-6 hours of studying/day excluding the probably 7 days off I took inadvertently. This was not my intent and even though I know how stressed I already was, I do wish I had averaged around 10 hours and had a tighter schedule. I was pretty much set up to be a slacker having the NBA playoffs happening AND the World Cup at the time that I had to be studying for the step. I tried to resist, but I couldn’t.

If I had to list the things that I feel contributed the most: Firecracker > Pathoma > Uworld/Kaplan > Goljan Audio >> UsmleRx > First Aid


Firecracker: listed first because in retrospect, the greatest thing that contributed to me getting questions right often was from knowing things well the first time I learned them from classes. The effort you put in your first 2 years is by far the most important factor in step prep; FC can help solidify that. I’m not trying to push the product as much as I’m emphasizing what people have said before in that doing well your first two years will make this process so much easier. Anki or any spaced repetition program can also help solidify things, if you like an alternative. I just think Firecracker is currently the best medium of doing that.

Pathoma: I’m also a big proponent of understanding rather than memorizing, which is why Pathoma is rated so highly for me. I wanted to use it during dedicated, but I had to cut a lot of things out after I realized there way no way I was going to finish it all at my leisurely dedicated period work-rate, but having been through it almost twice within the last year, I think the foundation for comprehension was set so it served its purpose

Uworld/Kaplan: Same value to both for me because I think the beauty in question banks is just reinforcing things you learned. When I did my pass through of FA, it was crazy to see the things I still had a good grasp on, because I remembered getting a question on it. There were things I remembered reading about either in class or in my first reading through FA, like Gitelman syndrome, but that looked brand new every time, because I had never had a question on it to reinforce it. I would say Uworld is a little bit better than Kaplan bank, but not by much. I don’t really get where the Kaplan hate comes from; I thought it was solid. Uworld was straight forward IMO. For the most part, questions I got wrong were things I hadn’t learned yet. I think Kaplan may do a better job of having questions that make you think deeper in to things in order to get an answer. It also could just be that doing 1 bank before Uworld will make it seem easier, I don’t really know. First Aid is the lowest down because I actually feel it’s the least useful, for me at least. There was a lot of stuff in First Aid that wasn’t in FC, so it isn’t even that I knew it already indirectly. As I was going through it there was A LOT I didn’t know in there, but I don’t think those small detail things make much of a difference. I would venture to guess if you were an A or high B student, you could probably skip FA, use Uworld as your bible, and still do really well. I wouldn’t risk it or tell anyone to do that, but I do want to acknowledge that FA is not the end all be all it is made out to be.

Things I wish I had done:
  • Read BRS Behavioral. This was a weakness of mine according to both qbanks. Behavioral questions are guaranteed to be on the exam and they ended up being the hardest questions for me.
  • Finish Firecracker and finish it early. I don’t think there is an easier way to keep retention of learned material. The sections I didn’t finish were Anatomy and Neurology. I looked up a bunch of questions after the exam and also looked to see if they were in FC and it wouldn’t have made a difference though so I can’t be too hard on myself. I think another major reason I wished I had continued was that Firecracker will increase your recall speed as long as you’re doing it. I typically finished Uworld blocks with between 10-20 minutes left to spare. However, after I stopped FC I noticed it was taking me a bit longer and I usually finished with 10 or a little less time left. Around the time I quit FC, my Uworld blocks were consistently 85% + with a few >90%, after I quit, it seemed like they slowly started normalizing again to between 78-82%. Could be coincidence. I normally only had about 2 or 3 minutes left at the end of blocks, if that, on the real deal so FC could have helped in that aspect. Like Goljan said, most students would probably do well on this exam if you had unlimited time and could just sit there and reason things out. Having more time to spend on the difficult/multi-step questions or reviewing marked questions is invaluable. I changed multiple things to the correct answer that I had marked, when I had the time.
Things I bought or intended to use but didn’t:
  • Rapid Review: I remember reading a bunch of posts from prior experience threads and I saw a few people that scored really well say they used rapid review. It’s great, but way too dense now for it to be used effectively for a first pass during dedicated period. I only used it for clarification during classes or something else. It has almost everything though and if you could manage to get a few read throughs in, I’m sure you would kill this exam.
  • HY Neuro: I always thought Neuro was a weakness for me as I just coasted through my Neuro course and did the bare minimum to keep a satisfactory grade. 2 months before the exam if you asked me what the function of the PPRF was, I couldn’t have told you. Plan was to read 8-10 pages/day and finish it by the halfway mark of dedicated. I think I made it 4 days. I guess I didn’t read enough to give a great review of it, but I can say that it is a bit dull and the format wasn’t amazing. As with antimicrobials, I got lucky and neuro wasn’t really well represented on my exam.
  • Deja Review Micro: Micro I thought was another weakness for me as it isn’t taught well at my school. I saw this book have a high rating in the back of FA so I ordered it. The only way I can see this book being useful for someone is if you just want to quiz yourself on some Micro facts every night before you go to sleep. I didn’t really like the format of it for the purpose of step studying.
  • Lippincott Microcards: seems like these always have amazing reviews on here. I wasn’t a big fan either. At times there can be too much info on the cards IMO. I liked them and used them a little during my Micro course, but I probably wouldn’t recommend them to people.
  • Usmle rx: It’s okay. I actually don’t mind it, I just think the other 2 major banks are better. I planned on finishing this during dedicated before doing a second pass of Uworld; none of that actually happened.

Good luck to everyone else who has to take it. I hope this helps people because I religiously read these threads for the last 2 years and I can honestly say you could probably subtract 30 points from my score if I didn’t learn so much about how to prep on here and what type of scores were possible. And thanks to anyone I PM’d or directly asked questions, the support here is great and I’ll definitely try to pass it on. Also, sorry for the long ass post. I don’t know how to be concise and I always actually loved the posts where people explained as much as possible and made this a thread where people could learn instead of an area for individuals to gloat.
 
hey @Bancrofti thanks for this wonderful post and congratz!!

My question is:

My Kaplan, UW averages are just like yours. However, my NBMEs are around 245-255 plateau. My exam is on next week, so I wonder what really helped you to make this great jump from NBME 15 to NBME 16.

Thanks
 
hey @Bancrofti thanks for this wonderful post and congratz!!

My question is:

My Kaplan, UW averages are just like yours. However, my NBMEs are around 245-255 plateau. My exam is on next week, so I wonder what really helped you to make this great jump from NBME 15 to NBME 16.

Thanks

Just figuring out what your weaknesses are like I mentioned. On NBME 15 I remember getting 21 questions wrong. After reviewing it (I paid for the $60 form) I realized that in reality of those 21, maybe a max of 5 were questions that I SHOULD have gotten wrong, i.e. it was material I had never seen before in class/any review source or a question that was legit difficult and I subjectively knew that even if I personally had 10 minutes to answer it, I probably would have still gotten it wrong. This allowed me to try to focus on not making "errors" that made me get doable questions wrong and gave me the confidence to know that I should perform better next time around.

For me personally, my issues were not reading the stems thoroughly and ALL answer choices. I can get a little impatient at times and I get annoyed at the convolution they throw into questions for no reason so I tended to breeze through long question stems without actually reading all the words and not getting all of the salient points that directed you toward the answer. Even in question banks, I got so many questions wrong because I skipped over 1 or 2 words that completely changed the question. Further reading all the answers, unless it's a ridiculously simple question, is important. You never know when you're going to have a brain fart and reading all the answers is the best security policy you can get. I noticed, again through qbanks and nbmes, that often I was getting questions wrong where I chose A or B, but the answer was C-E, and I knew that answer, but didn't even read the rest of the answer choices. Likewise, you can apply a little testing strategy to the step. Sometimes I didn't really know everything or anything about what the question was asking, but I knew details of answer choices A through D very well, but not for E. It's a bit of a risk, but figuring out when to choose that answer choice that is something you've never heard of is a big deal.

So those 2 things along with taking my time helped me the most. As I truly don't think I learned much of anything by the time dedicated period came around. So I feel that you should take a look at the questions you get wrong on your NBME and see WHY you're getting them wrong. Some people may be the complete opposite of me and not make stupid mistakes like I do, but the questions they get wrong are all things that are in review sources, but they haven't covered it yet or don't know it well enough, which in that case your strategy for improving is a whole different ball game.
 
I passed.

I'm not gonna go through my study habits and all that since people who did much better than me have already done so. I have not been a good med student, not because of lack of effort but due to a lot of personal things. When I first started studying I was way below most students. My first practice nbme score was a 160. I was getting 20%s on Uworld blocks. If you check out my post history you'll see that there were people on here that called me "irrelevant" and knew that I would fail this exam.

I still struggled with a lot of things but I managed to put in a good summer of studying. Slowly but surely I got better at things, but after the exam I was positive that I failed.

NBME 11: 160
NBME 13: 165
NBME 15: 185

After this I just studied as much as I could and trusted that I would be able to make the gains needed to pass the exam. I had run out of time anyway so I couldn't push the exam back any further.

Real deal: 210

I know this is pretty much failing by SDN standards, but I think I can land a primary care spot in my state.
Congrats! You passed. That IS the most important thing and based on your Hx you did very well.
 
@Bancrofti Thanks for this detailed post. It was really inspiring.

This sounds exactly me. I will focus on not making "errors". Ever since I know myself, I always have been troubled by those careless mistakes, false readings etc. Hope I can concentrate well and perform my best. Wish to get a score like you. I will settle 10 points below that anyway.

Thanks again,
 
Dear @Bancrofti, One last question: How did you feel just one week before the test? Right now, I am little bit depressed and nauseous, I just want this long journey to come into end as soon as possible. I think I am little bit burn out. I keep saying to myself "what's done is done so relax". Also, I feel like all the information is fading away day by day, I feel this while approaching questions. For example before, I was like bum-bum-bum. Right know, I feel obtunded. I would like to hear if you experienced any thing like that? Thanks,
 
@Bancrofti do you think reviewing pathoma videos/DIT videos during dedicated time is a good idea if your nbmes are in the 245+ range?

I haven't really researched DIT, though I know many people who have used it, I try not to speak on things I don't know everything about. In the end though, the answer would be no to both anyway 🙂. Sitting there and watching videos takes up a good chunk of time. Videos should be used for clarification and explanation, where reading isn't enough for you. If you are scoring ~245, there should be no reason for you to need to do a full pass of anything video-wise (if that's what you were asking). I'd say a large percentage of dedicated period should be geared towards fixing weak subjects and testing skills. Like I did with my Kaplan Pharm videos, if you feel there is a specific area you need work in, then by all means get that clarification. If you've done Pathoma properly the first time and took notes appropriately, you should not need to watch the videos again during dedicated. Even though I intended to use Pathoma during dedicated, it was only to read the book again and see my notes on anything I felt he explained in a manner I wasn't going to get elsewhere.

Dear @Bancrofti, One last question: How did you feel just one week before the test? Right now, I am little bit depressed and nauseous, I just want this long journey to come into end as soon as possible. I think I am little bit burn out. I keep saying to myself "what's done is done so relax". Also, I feel like all the information is fading away day by day, I feel this while approaching questions. For example before, I was like bum-bum-bum. Right know, I feel obtunded. I would like to hear if you experienced any thing like that? Thanks,

I kind of had an F it attitude honestly. Not because I didn't care, but because throughout most of second year I had the mentality "what if I'm not good enough?" Even halfway through Uworld when I was scoring higher than the average and after getting a solid score on NBME 7 without even getting through FA or finishing my Pharm course, I thought that everything I was getting right was a fluke and that I was just guessing well. You'll see it said time and time again here: we don't know why, but you have to have faith in your prep and the assessments. So I'm not sure at what point exactly the my mindset changed, but at some point around April/May before my finals I told myself I was going to be fine and to just have faith in myself and how hard I was working.
If you "guessed" really well to get a 245 and you've done it multiple times, it is more likely than not you will do the same on exam day. There is so much to know in medicine and even just basic sciences, only a crazy person could actually go into the exam thinking that they know everything or even enough to guarantee a certain score. However, the statistics speak for themselves and chances are that you will score right around where your practice exams were or possibly better if you make a concerted effort to fix non-knowledge issues before exam day.
 
First off, congrats on a great score! I was hoping you could answer a few questions for me?

When were did you take the NBME? Did you take a baseline at the star of your dedicated?

Ok I did all of my NBMEs in the last two weeks before the exam. I did the Kaplan diagnostic in my last semester before I started studying for my COMP. I got 60%.

Which Carib school did you come from? Or if you are privacy sensitive could you tell us if it was big 4 or not?

Saba

You seemed to do well on all of your NBME, what did you do during basic sciences? Which resources for which classes?

I only used my school's notes tbh. I don't have the work ethic/patience/attention span to look through multiple resources. However, the one time I actually used an outside source was pathoma for pathology.

Thanks!
 
You asked this twice so you must be very anxious for an answer. I have no idea what Dr. Najeeb's lectures refer to as I have never heard of him. Not sure if someone else on here can shed some light on this issue. Having said that, one resource is likely not enough to get a high score on step one. If you read through this thread, you will find many people who have scored "high" by any standard. A common thread appears to be a thorough study plan involving many different resources (Pathoma, First Aid, Question Banks, Dr. Goljan's lectures, and Firecracker being most frequently mentioned) as well as concentrating on school significantly enough to build a base. Keep in mind that a good recipe for scoring high is, in my assessment, going to be (1) enough time for you to prepare, however long that is (2) minimal distractions (3) a set study plan organized with resources that work for you and (4) discipline.

are dr.najeeb's lectures enough to get high score in step one ??
 
@Bancrofti What an awesome score, congratulations! Did you use the Kaplan q-bank during MS2 along with Firecracker or did you save it for dedicated studying time?
Thanks! I started Kaplan after the first few weeks in MS2 and did questions corresponding to whatever we were learning at the time. I started Firecracker a few weeks before MS2 started.
 
no, hes just physio

That is correct.

Do not waste your time going thru Najeeb lectures for any topics besides Physio. Path --> Pathoma / Goljan, Pharm --> Raymon Kaplan videos

Najeeb lectures are super long and even at 2x without taking notes took me forever but if you have a low knowledge base for physio they are indispensable and a very good resource. I hadnt taken physio in almost 4-5 years and they helped me tremendously i would listen to that section of Najeeb then listen to the Kaplan Physio (Kudrath) videos
 
1/10 Kaplan Diagnostic - 59%
4/20 NBME 7 - 234
5/2 School Administered NBME - 248
5/24 UWSA1 - 260

——— started “dedicated” 5/29
6/25 NBME 15 - 249 (90%)
7/3 UWSA2 - 265 (86%)
7/6 Free 150 - 90%
7/9 NBME 16 - 262 (94%)

Uworld Qbank - 81% random timed
Kaplan Qbank - 72% by subject
USMLERx - 83%, but I only finished about 25% of it

I used Firecracker, banked 90% of it and had an 86.7% mastery rate. I stopped it about 2 weeks into dedicated period because I was slacking on studying and I wasn’t being efficient enough with my time to do FC and try to get through Uworld/FA

7/11 actual score: 265

Beneath this paragraph is everything I wrote the day after my exam. I just wanted to say that whatever score you want is attainable. It might not come easy, but the beautiful thing about med school is that you don’t have to be smart. Your score and class success will be a direct representation of the amount of work you put in over time. I actually think the work I did over the last year is what contributed the most to my score and not the 6 weeks prior to my exam, which was more for fine tuning. After I unbound my FA and put it in a binder, on the label I put a fairly lofty goal just so I had something to always look at and remind me of what I was working towards. That number ended up being my exact score. I literally just sat in disbelief for 10 minutes at how eerie that was after seeing the report.
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Exam Day
Content-wise, it seemed to be well distributed. The only things that seemed disproportionate in my eyes was the amount of straight anatomy/embryo (between 30-40) and the amount of BHS/biostats questions (between 20 - 30). I noticed that neuro wasn’t on my exam much, maybe a max of 10 questions, but there may be other subjects that weren’t as well represented. I just subjectively thought Neuro/Genitourinary were weaknesses coming into the exam so it was a lot easier to assess the presence of those on my exam. DISCLAIMER: really the content of my exam doesn’t matter, I’m just adding it for completeness sake. Your exam may be the exact opposite.

Question difficulty: Some were a little tricky, but extremely doable, i.e. question regarding mechanism of Metoclopramide where both D2 antagonist and 5HT3 agonist were answers; if you don’t read the stem properly, you could easily get it wrong if you don’t know what they’re asking. I hope this doesn’t constitute giving exam information, since I’m not speaking about the stems or what the answer was, I just want to illustrate that at times there will be best answer type questions or questions that are actually easy, but you need to think about it for a second to make sure your answer matches that needed from the question stem specifically. I saw someone else post a 40/40/20 breakdown as far as difficulty and I would agree, but switch it to 40/50/10. 40% of the questions will be easy if you’ve studied, some of them even joke easy like you could have answered before medical school. The next 50% are very doable if you’ve studied and had a good mastery of the material - this includes the physio type questions that ask you to interpret arrows and graphs and it requires you to relate a couple different things in order to answer the questions, these are really the questions that if you had unlimited time and prepped well, you would get a majority right, but the time crunch makes it tough. The next 10% are the difficult ones. These comprise the questions that require random knowledge, fine detail of major topics, outside exposure to current research, or just lucky guessing. I had a question about the mechanism of a drug that isn’t in FA, Uworld, or Firecracker, but was on the last slide of one of my Pharmacology course lectures. I got it wrong, but I thought it was interesting to see where I could have potentially gotten that point had I been more thorough with my studying. On average I probably marked about 9 questions per block. On the only block I finished with more than 5 minutes to go, I only marked 4. Marked 11 on a few of them.

I didn’t have any break time left so I didn’t get to do the survey at the end. I skipped the tutorial so I had an hour worth of break time. For some reason from reading posts on here it seemed like you only got 45 minutes WITH the extra tutorial time, but it’s actually 45 base, kicking you up to 1 hour if you skip the tutorial. Skipping the tutorial didn’t matter, the only thing that was new was the couple heart sounds I had, which let you click different auscultation sites to see where you heard the murmur the loudest, which you DO have to do, as it makes a difference in the diagnosis. I saw someone here previously post that you could switch between the diaphragm and the bell, but I did not notice that feature with mine, and the auscultation page was the only thing I looked at in the tutorial because of that post. Testing interface, including the format of the lab values was almost the exact same as Uworld.


My dedicated prep plan:
  • finished up Uworld. I went into dedicated period with about 20% of Uworld done. I marked any questions that I got correct that I completely guessed on and marked questions that I knew, but liked the way the question was presented as far as making me think on different levels or just giving me exposure to something I subjectively felt I could use again. I also marked any of the auscultation media questions as I felt that those should be gimmes on the exam if I was familiar with the sounds. I did all my marked questions and incorrects after finishing my first pass. Finished the day before the exam.
    • Want to say I stand by the fact that I think Uworld should be done last and as close to prep period as possible. People have varying opinions on it, but I had seemed to agree more with the people that said save it for last and I think it not only helped me peak at the right time, but got me a couple questions on the exam as well.
  • Almost a full past of First Aid. I didn’t get to go over the Biochem section, but my actual first pass of FA was from January - May along with courses and the biochem section was actually the last one I read. Biochem on my exam was sparse and easy, so I may have lucked out there. **Edit: I just remembered that I never completely read the pharm section of Micro. I hated antimicrobials during my Pharm course and never had a chance to look at it then, and I also skipped this section during dedicated because I remembering falling asleep during it, saying I would do it in the morning, and I never did. Luckily, I don’t recall having 1 antimicrobial pharm question on the exam.
  • NBMEs/Uworld exams. I actually only planned on taking 1 during dedicated, but the 249 kind of killed my buzz, so I decided to take another. My goal was a 260, a dream goal of 265, and an “I’ll settle for it” goal of 255. I feel that taking a bunch of NBMEs isn’t really necessary. It is a more efficient use of your time to study than to just keep taking tests to see what you’re getting wrong. We’re all adults by now. Everyone should be able to objectively say what their weaknesses may be. Doing a bunch of stuff for the fact that you might see it the same way again is a waste. The questions will never be the same. In my whole exam I remember having 1 question with the exact same stem as a question from the free 136 except the last line which ended up asking something different. Who knows though, maybe if I had done more I would have gotten a few repeats. NBMEs are invaluable as an assessment tool. I noticed a trend in errors I was making that lead to me getting questions wrong that I really shouldn’t have. I was also normally solid on my 1st block or two, then progressively declined. I tried my best to minimize these errors for NBME 16 and it paid off.
  • Watched some of the Kaplan Pharm videos on anti arrhythmic drugs and a few other areas I didn’t feel strong in.
  • listened to Goljan while driving or at the gym. I had a few questions that were almost word for word things he spoke about. Amazing how clutch it still is. Listened on my phone and had it sped up to anywhere between 1.5-1.7x. Makes a big difference, the 1x of getting through it during dedicated was probably my 4th time just passively listening since January.
  • Outside of my first couple days of studying and maybe 2 other days when no sports games were on and I had the motivation to do nothing else all day, I probably averaged about 5-6 hours of studying/day excluding the probably 7 days off I took inadvertently. This was not my intent and even though I know how stressed I already was, I do wish I had averaged around 10 hours and had a tighter schedule. I was pretty much set up to be a slacker having the NBA playoffs happening AND the World Cup at the time that I had to be studying for the step. I tried to resist, but I couldn’t.

If I had to list the things that I feel contributed the most: Firecracker > Pathoma > Uworld/Kaplan > Goljan Audio >> UsmleRx > First Aid


Firecracker: listed first because in retrospect, the greatest thing that contributed to me getting questions right often was from knowing things well the first time I learned them from classes. The effort you put in your first 2 years is by far the most important factor in step prep; FC can help solidify that. I’m not trying to push the product as much as I’m emphasizing what people have said before in that doing well your first two years will make this process so much easier. Anki or any spaced repetition program can also help solidify things, if you like an alternative. I just think Firecracker is currently the best medium of doing that.

Pathoma: I’m also a big proponent of understanding rather than memorizing, which is why Pathoma is rated so highly for me. I wanted to use it during dedicated, but I had to cut a lot of things out after I realized there way no way I was going to finish it all at my leisurely dedicated period work-rate, but having been through it almost twice within the last year, I think the foundation for comprehension was set so it served its purpose

Uworld/Kaplan: Same value to both for me because I think the beauty in question banks is just reinforcing things you learned. When I did my pass through of FA, it was crazy to see the things I still had a good grasp on, because I remembered getting a question on it. There were things I remembered reading about either in class or in my first reading through FA, like Gitelman syndrome, but that looked brand new every time, because I had never had a question on it to reinforce it. I would say Uworld is a little bit better than Kaplan bank, but not by much. I don’t really get where the Kaplan hate comes from; I thought it was solid. Uworld was straight forward IMO. For the most part, questions I got wrong were things I hadn’t learned yet. I think Kaplan may do a better job of having questions that make you think deeper in to things in order to get an answer. It also could just be that doing 1 bank before Uworld will make it seem easier, I don’t really know. First Aid is the lowest down because I actually feel it’s the least useful, for me at least. There was a lot of stuff in First Aid that wasn’t in FC, so it isn’t even that I knew it already indirectly. As I was going through it there was A LOT I didn’t know in there, but I don’t think those small detail things make much of a difference. I would venture to guess if you were an A or high B student, you could probably skip FA, use Uworld as your bible, and still do really well. I wouldn’t risk it or tell anyone to do that, but I do want to acknowledge that FA is not the end all be all it is made out to be.

Things I wish I had done:
  • Read BRS Behavioral. This was a weakness of mine according to both qbanks. Behavioral questions are guaranteed to be on the exam and they ended up being the hardest questions for me.
  • Finish Firecracker and finish it early. I don’t think there is an easier way to keep retention of learned material. The sections I didn’t finish were Anatomy and Neurology. I looked up a bunch of questions after the exam and also looked to see if they were in FC and it wouldn’t have made a difference though so I can’t be too hard on myself. I think another major reason I wished I had continued was that Firecracker will increase your recall speed as long as you’re doing it. I typically finished Uworld blocks with between 10-20 minutes left to spare. However, after I stopped FC I noticed it was taking me a bit longer and I usually finished with 10 or a little less time left. Around the time I quit FC, my Uworld blocks were consistently 85% + with a few >90%, after I quit, it seemed like they slowly started normalizing again to between 78-82%. Could be coincidence. I normally only had about 2 or 3 minutes left at the end of blocks, if that, on the real deal so FC could have helped in that aspect. Like Goljan said, most students would probably do well on this exam if you had unlimited time and could just sit there and reason things out. Having more time to spend on the difficult/multi-step questions or reviewing marked questions is invaluable. I changed multiple things to the correct answer that I had marked, when I had the time.
Things I bought or intended to use but didn’t:
  • Rapid Review: I remember reading a bunch of posts from prior experience threads and I saw a few people that scored really well say they used rapid review. It’s great, but way too dense now for it to be used effectively for a first pass during dedicated period. I only used it for clarification during classes or something else. It has almost everything though and if you could manage to get a few read throughs in, I’m sure you would kill this exam.
  • HY Neuro: I always thought Neuro was a weakness for me as I just coasted through my Neuro course and did the bare minimum to keep a satisfactory grade. 2 months before the exam if you asked me what the function of the PPRF was, I couldn’t have told you. Plan was to read 8-10 pages/day and finish it by the halfway mark of dedicated. I think I made it 4 days. I guess I didn’t read enough to give a great review of it, but I can say that it is a bit dull and the format wasn’t amazing. As with antimicrobials, I got lucky and neuro wasn’t really well represented on my exam.
  • Deja Review Micro: Micro I thought was another weakness for me as it isn’t taught well at my school. I saw this book have a high rating in the back of FA so I ordered it. The only way I can see this book being useful for someone is if you just want to quiz yourself on some Micro facts every night before you go to sleep. I didn’t really like the format of it for the purpose of step studying.
  • Lippincott Microcards: seems like these always have amazing reviews on here. I wasn’t a big fan either. At times there can be too much info on the cards IMO. I liked them and used them a little during my Micro course, but I probably wouldn’t recommend them to people.
  • Usmle rx: It’s okay. I actually don’t mind it, I just think the other 2 major banks are better. I planned on finishing this during dedicated before doing a second pass of Uworld; none of that actually happened.

Good luck to everyone else who has to take it. I hope this helps people because I religiously read these threads for the last 2 years and I can honestly say you could probably subtract 30 points from my score if I didn’t learn so much about how to prep on here and what type of scores were possible. And thanks to anyone I PM’d or directly asked questions, the support here is great and I’ll definitely try to pass it on. Also, sorry for the long ass post. I don’t know how to be concise and I always actually loved the posts where people explained as much as possible and made this a thread where people could learn instead of an area for individuals to gloat.

Congrats man!
 
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