Official 2014 Step 1 Experiences and Scores Thread

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232 on step 1... Was shooting for higher but content with that score. 221 on UWSA 2 (5 weeks out) and 242 on UWSA 1 (1 week out). Didn't take any of the nbme's but it looks like I should have, oh well! Did UWORLD (62%), pathoma on certain subjects, and FA almost 3 times, and I did RR path throughout the year. It's funny, biochem, genetics, and cell bio were my best subjects going in but I guess I screwed up test day bc those were my worst subjects.

Glad this test is behind me, I wanna do IM and I think if I bring that score up on step 2 I can still compete for some of the more competitive programs.
 
Most university IM programs won't take a COMLEX score. Cardio is a fellowship post IM residency, so I imagine your Step 1/COMLEX score doesn't really matter at that point.

The stats for fellowship matching often do include step 1 scores and the competitive fellowships tend to have students with higher step 1 scores. Probably not weighted as much, but it probably isn't a coincidence either.
 
School NBME -> 235 (10 weeks out)
Uworld assessment 1 -> 257 (7 weeks out)
NBME 11 -> 251 (6 weeks out)
NBME 7 -> 254 (5 weeks out)
NBME 12 -> 254 (3 and half weeks out)
NBME 15 -> 258 (3 weeks out)
Kaplan Simulated 1: 80% (3 weeks out)
NBME 16 -> 258 (2 weeks out)
Kaplan Simulated 2: 83% ( 1 week out)
NBME 13 -> 254 ( 1 week out)
UWorld assessment 2 -> 265+ (3 days out)

Actual: 255

First off, the best prep is going to be learning your 2nd year material the best the first time around and the attitude in which you attack the material. Our school had a very hard path course and it forced you to study beyond the basic principles of the diseases but more into differentials, things that made each disease unique, etiology, epidemiology, and most if not all exam questions were 2nd and 3rd order (much like the board exam). Learn path, pharm and phyiso the best you can, especially physio and pharm. My test was heavy in anatomy which caught me off guard but the majority of the test even if you don't realize it is path, pharm, physio. Getting high scores in those three sections made it so that any other subject area wouldn't damage my score, getting good at those extra sections like anatomy and biostats would just push a 230 into a 240+. My lowest section was biostats and public health but that is just a personal thing, its always been my weakest next to behavioral science and the public health questions on the actual exam come out of left field so just be ready to know random facts or be a good test taker for those questions. The hardest part of the exam is endurance, the question stems are twice if not more than that of NBME and comparable to some Uworld stems but not most. Watch your time and don't get stuck on questions, i found myself getting stuck on genetics or experiment based questions for to long and regretted it because the next 10 after that were much easier. Take every single NBME and Uworld self assessment just to build up endurance and build test day habits that make your actual test less stressful. I would take each NBME/Uworld with 3 kaplan q bank blocks to simulate real time and wouldn't submit those last 3 blocks until the time ran out just to get use to answering questions tired and fatigued. You feel like crap after the test and everything is a blur but if your getting a consistent score between your NBME's you will get around its average even though you may have felt you bombed the test. Little if any of my test was first order so its important to really know everything you can about a disease and anticipate what they might ask or look out for keywords that will change the entire question. This happened many times during the actual test in which I was reading and was ready to answer, but caught one word that changed the entire question. You need to be able to read fast to get through the exam in time, but not so fast as to miss these tricky questions. The only way to get good at this is to as many questions as possible. Uworld is the #1 thing I recommend to getting a good score. If you can get through Uworld twice and really understand every explanation then you are set to do well. Adding another qbank like Kaplan was good for the low yield detail if you want to push past 230 and 240. As for my prep, take it with a grain of salt and find what works for you. The worst thing you can do is listen to everyone and try a million different things, only to end up lost in all your resources and out of time. The best time to start I believe is after the Christmas break in your second year and study maybe 2-3 hours for it during the term and then 6-8 weeks post term studying 12 hours or so everyday. I hoped to have beat 260 and was a bit frustrated that I got near the same score that I started with before my dedicated study period but the actual exam is so much harder then anything else that all that time must have helped in some way.

Prep:

DIT: I printed out the workbook and got it bound before my last semester started. Everyday I would watch 2-3 videos in the subject we were covering in pathphysiology, use the workbook to answer the questions, and add anything that wasn't in first aid or the workbook. I then ripped out workbook pages and added to my bound first aid book, only things that it did not have or rapid fire facts that DIT was good for. I got a not so legal copy of this so if money is tight then don't just go and buy this unless your doing it seriously in your dedicated study period.

Uworld first pass: 74% (Doing the same subject I was doing in DIT/pathophysiology)
Second pass: 92% (% Irrelevant since I remembered most of the questions) Random/Timed. Made sure to read the explanations well.
Kaplan Q bank first pass: 69% (Much harder then Uworld/details to crazy but good for anatomy/biochem and genetics)

First AID: I tried to make one master book/resource so I did not have to look at multiple resources during my final run. I got the book pulled out of its bindings and put it into a binder. I annotated Uworld into here and added DIT pages, but nothing more. I read the book completely during my last term to study for my pharm/pathophyisology exams and then again the week before my exam. The week before my exam I split the book into 6 days and got through about 100 pages a day or so, making lists of things I couldn't remember and then reading them over again the morning before I started reading again.

Pathoma: 3x times total

Kaplan: 6 weeks course at my school. Some professors were really good like Dr. Barone (worth the money alone) but others were hit or miss. The only good part about the course was that it forced me to stay focused during lecture and I just did questions to review when I got home. If you decide to take a course make sure it doesn't go all day because doing questions is #1. The only reason I did the course was to force me to stay on the island to study, housing on campus and it ended at 3 everyday which gave me time to do questions.

Other resources:

Uworld biostats
BRS Physio
Lippincott micro cards
Select Kaplan books like Behavioral science and Biochem

If anyone has questions feel free to ask. I felt like I did so much so its hard to right it all down. Everyone can do well on this test with hard work and a good attitude towards learning the material well the first time. I got a 22 on my MCAT twice, so don't let that poorly written test destroy your dreams.
 
School NBME -> 235 (10 weeks out)

Kaplan: 6 weeks course at my school. Some professors were really good like Dr. Barone (worth the money alone) but others were hit or miss. The only good part about the course was that it forced me to stay focused during lecture and I just did questions to review when I got home. If you decide to take a course make sure it doesn't go all day because doing questions is #1. The only reason I did the course was to force me to stay on the island to study, housing on campus and it ended at 3 everyday which gave me time to do questions.

Please tell me more about your Lectures With Barone, How Did his Lectures Help with the Actual Exam?
I have an Option to Attend His Lectures in a One Week Period but I'm Hesitant, Because just Helps you memorizing things "In my Opinion" Which I can Do alone, So I'm thinking MAybe I'm Not Gonna Attend.

Regarding Your "Heavy Anatomy Tested Exam" Was the Info Present in the FA or Kaplan Lecture Notes or Kaplan Qbank UW Qbank? Or they asked you about Material that are not Covered In them?

Regards,
 
Barone was good at finding ways for you to remember small amounts of detail with songs and cool mnemonics that even if you don't think they will stick, they will and can help you with massive amounts of memorization. He got me 2 or 3 questions that he mentioned on a topic that wasn't anywhere but only in his notes. I wished there was more because I wrote an entire notebook out of things he said that wasn't mentioned anywhere else but he said was very tested and that most students miss. If you need a good path review or your struggling to get past 250 on NBMEs and your looking for the zebra type questions then he may be good for you. I would recommend just Barone from kaplan, not the entire course.

The anatomy on my exam was 70% in FA, kaplan and the qbank and maybe 30% unknown at the time but I do vaguely remembering hearing about it in my anatomy course. If you can remember a lot from your anatomy course then you may be fine. I didn't have many CT scans, but the ones I did have were pretty difficult.
 
I have done FA 3x, Pathoma 2x and Uworld (75% on timed random on 2nd pass).

I got 220 on NBME 13, 236 on UWSA2, but only 211 on NBME 15.

I felt that there were a lot of questions on NBME 15 that were not in any of the material that I studied. I tried my best guessing these questions but I got a lot of them wrong. My goal is a 235+. My confidence is really low right now because I feel like my knowledge base is good but a lot of the questions in the practice NBMEs are really weird. What am I doing wrong? How can I improve my score? My test is currently scheduled for the 14th, should I extend it?


Any help is appreciated


Thanks
 
I mean you put in the work most do. Honestly, you might not be able to hit that target and a 220 may be more realistic since UWSA 2 usually overpredicts for most. What was your UW first pass %?

At this point, you are probably safe to pass and I am not sure how much more work will get you where you want to be. Might just be time to take it and get what you get. Take NBME 16 also.
 
Is having too many study resources dangerous? I flip-flop from Goljan to Pathoma to Falcon to Kaplan...
If I can handle it, wouldn't having many resources be a good thing because I can catch a concept from one resource that wasn't discussed in another... Plus the repetition will help me remember it!

Thoughts? :shrug:
 
Is having too many study resources dangerous? I flip-flop from Goljan to Pathoma to Falcon to Kaplan...
If I can handle it, wouldn't having many resources be a good thing because I can catch a concept from one resource that wasn't discussed in another... Plus the repetition will help me remember it!

Thoughts? :shrug:

Yea, don't do that. There is too much information to retain everything. People like to delve outside of the tried method for whatever reason, but all you need is FA, Pathoma, and Uworld. You can supplement SPECIFIC weak areas with an external source, but I don't think it's necessary, wise, or an efficient use of your time.
 
Yeah i feel ya about the downward trend, but the thing is, 11 and 13 are waaaaaaay easier than 16. 222 on NBME 16 is just fine imo. Honestly i think if you were to take it in a couple days you would do fine probably 220-230 according to your nbme scores and that everything went well on test day. Have you tried taking nbme 15? what was your uworld avg's and what was your prep like?
 
NBME 11 = 230
NBME 13 = 228
Just took NMBE 16 today and got a 222

Should I be worried about the downward trend? Anyone else feel a little blindsided by 16? Any advice...USMLE is on the 10th =X

What absolutely killed me was Behavioral Science... didn't even know you could get a star for poor performance lol. Also missed a few questions more in certain subjects but I expected that.
Only thing I know that would help me would be to do another pass of FA just to solidify things.
It's hard to tell what my true "score" is with the downward trend...which makes me super apprehensive

I thought 16 was definitely harder than 13. But that said, your scores are grouped within a 10 pt range. You should find yourself somewhere around that average. Biggest thing I see is that you only went through FA once. Most folks do at least 3 runs through it. I think that right there could have gotten you over 230+. However, I would go ahead and sit for the exam since you are at that point. Unless you really want to delay it for 2 weeks and do another run through FA and take 15.
 
I was expecting a torrent of responses from last week's test result release, but its pretty quiet in here. I guess people couldnt be bothered with reporting back to a forum

Congratulations to all those who passed! Milestone achievement.
 
UWORLD,FA and Pathoma - Once
NBME 11- 208
NBME 13- 211
NBME 15 - 224

Got my result 226. Was hoping for 230's. 4 weeks dedicated study, Uworld, FA and Pathoma once. Wish I had time to them once more...
Is 225 good enough for IM residency ( not high tier ones).
 
UWORLD,FA and Pathoma - Once
NBME 11- 208
NBME 13- 211
NBME 15 - 224

Got my result 226. Was hoping for 230's. 4 weeks dedicated study, Uworld, FA and Pathoma once. Wish I had time to them once more...
Is 225 good enough for IM residency ( not high tier ones).
yeah. you are fine. with decent others.
 
During dedicated Pathoma, Uworld, FA once
Uworld was 63%, probably doesn't mean much but by the last 6 blocks or so I was hitting 70-80ish%

I only had time for 1 more NBME so I just went with 16 over 15 just because it was the newest
I was originally shooting for a 230 but at this point would be happy with 220-230, just hard to take it being confident I wouldn't drop below a 220, which I would really want to avoid, and hard to not have anxiety about
In retrospect, probably wasn't the best idea to take an NBME so close to the exam but I didn't think I would drop that much...

I think you should do FA and Pathoma one more time. Not pathoma vids but just read over your notes that you made w/ it and the book itself. But FA for sure do one more time. Obviously you're in a comfortable Passing situation...but it seems like you'd like to do a bit better? I don't think you should worry about the downward trend but I think instead of taking another NBME you should instead solidify your knowledge a bit further by reading FA one more time.

Sometimes the difference between a 235+ and a 220 is memorizing a lot of the small details in that book that get overlooked
 
I think you should do FA and Pathoma one more time. Not pathoma vids but just read over your notes that you made w/ it and the book itself. But FA for sure do one more time. Obviously you're in a comfortable Passing situation...but it seems like you'd like to do a bit better? I don't think you should worry about the downward trend but I think instead of taking another NBME you should instead solidify your knowledge a bit further by reading FA one more time.

Sometimes the difference between a 235+ and a 220 is memorizing a lot of the small details in that book that get overlooked
they are taking it tomorrow on the 10th.
 
Hey guys, congrats on the passing scores this week! For those of you who took the exam recently, can you give some insight on the incontinence questions you came across on the exam. Are they testing the anatomy, or certain subtypes of incontinence. I just wanted to do a quick read on this subject and get a little familiar with it since people have claimed to get these type of questions. I just don't know how to approach it. Thanks!
 
NBME #15: 232
UWorld #2: 242
NBME #16: 232

Actual Step 1 score: 251
I listened to Goljan from March thru April. DIT from May until 2 weeks before my test. I went thru first aid 2013 twice and did about 1100 questions in the last 2 weeks. I wish I would have gotten the newest First Aid, but no complaints here!
 
NBME #15: 232
UWorld #2: 242
NBME #16: 232

Actual Step 1 score: 251
I listened to Goljan from March thru April. DIT from May until 2 weeks before my test. I went thru first aid 2013 twice and did about 1100 questions in the last 2 weeks. I wish I would have gotten the newest First Aid, but no complaints here!


Did you use anything else besides FA, Goljan, and DIT?
 
I am almost done with half of UW and my scores are all over the place. I am mostly scoring in early 70s. Very few in 60s. Once in 50s and 80s(most recent). What do you guys think where do I stand with these? I don't plan to do nbme until I am done with UW and FA x2. Cuz I know it'll just add to my anxiety.

My goal is 250 and I have two more months to prepare. I'll finish uw by the end of this month and will be revising my annotated FA as soon as I am done with Uw.
 
I am almost done with half of UW and my scores are all over the place. I am mostly scoring in early 70s. Very few in 60s. Once in 50s and 80s(most recent). What do you guys think where do I stand with these? I don't plan to do nbme until I am done with UW and FA x2. Cuz I know it'll just add to my anxiety.

My goal is 250 and I have two more months to prepare. I'll finish uw by the end of this month and will be revising my annotated FA as soon as I am done with Uw.

Can't really tell you since you do not have a NBME under your belt. I can take a rough guess. Maybe around a 230. Just take a NBME. It is not a game.....it is just practice.....why we talking about practice!

I have found only NBME 15 and 16 to be close to the new style of Step 1. Take NBME 7 or 11 as a nadir.

I think you can get there but take a practice test......I went from a 180 to a 250+ on my last one. I just want a 230.
 
Is a 232 competitive enough for some of the better IM residencies? (Not hopkins or UCSF or anything like that) I thought I was in good shape but have been told otherwise recently. Anybody else here wanting to do IM? I've looked on SDN but all the forums are way outdated.
 
Is a 232 competitive enough for some of the better IM residencies? (Not hopkins or UCSF or anything like that) I thought I was in good shape but have been told otherwise recently. Anybody else here wanting to do IM? I've looked on SDN but all the forums are way outdated.
 
Hard to say. Depends on your definition of better. I would say you should be competitive for most. Top program could be closer to 240. I am not an expert here since I do not apply to top programs. I just want to get into a program I like.

But that would be my guess.
 
I have a friend who got into ortho this year at one of the Ivys with a 235 Step1 + not having taken 2CK before the match. Yet again, he rotated there beforehand and was well-received. If you want a certain residency, do your hardest to rotate there, be a team player, but stay quiet, subtle, and always be available. And don't be aggressive or try to one-up people. The rotation is your interview. There are definitely objective Step1 cutoffs at various programs, but they're likely not as high as we all think. In the end, much of it comes down to whom you know / who can vouch for you.
 
Is a 232 competitive enough for some of the better IM residencies? (Not hopkins or UCSF or anything like that) I thought I was in good shape but have been told otherwise recently. Anybody else here wanting to do IM? I've looked on SDN but all the forums are way outdated.

IM is impossible to handicap because there is such a gap between the top and bottom, and no clear definition of where many programs lie on the continuum. 232 is good for many great academic programs with great fellowship matches. The biggest thing you can do to match well in IM is be geographically flexible, as some fantastic programs are fairly obtainable due to everyone wanting to be in NY and California.
 
ADVICE:

- After writing the exam, I truly believe that the most important skill you need to master before writing this exam is time management. You can come in with the entire Robbins Book memorized, but if you find yourself fighting a battle with time, its easy to lose out on tens of points from careless errors or not having time to reason through easy Qs.

First of all, thank you for such great write up. I'm sure you did amazing. For all your hard work you definitely deserve the best. I wanted to ask you how do we learn to better manage our time? Any helpful tips? Thanks
 
I have never really had a problem for time. But, one thing I do is always make sure through practice I have an attack plan. For example, if I see something I am clueless on, I take a quick read and then take my best guess....mark it and come back.

Also, in UW practice, I have been working my time and trying to be more effective and making sure to get through it faster but not so fast I miss stuff. Got to be able to read it and get the info out quickly.

Right now, I am using 1/2 to 2/3 of the time I have. You got to work the material and the test. It takes doing both well to get a solid score.
 
Just curious...........in UW, I have seen more and more biochem pathways that I am not familiar with. I know the basics in FA but I keep seeing some stuff in UW that is past that info. Not just enzymes but also hardass pathways.

What are some experiences some of you have seen on the real thing? None of my classmates I talked to have seen anything dramatic in that respect. And, I do not want to waste time on that. I need to make sure to nail down Micro better.
 
Just curious...........in UW, I have seen more and more biochem pathways that I am not familiar with. I know the basics in FA but I keep seeing some stuff in UW that is past that info. Not just enzymes but also hardass pathways.

What are some experiences some of you have seen on the real thing? None of my classmates I talked to have seen anything dramatic in that respect. And, I do not want to waste time on that. I need to make sure to nail down Micro better.

Zero pathways on my test. Honestly, I love UW but I think it does a horrible job on biochem. The biochem on my test was nothing like UWs. Stick to FA and you'll get them all.
 
Just curious...........in UW, I have seen more and more biochem pathways that I am not familiar with. I know the basics in FA but I keep seeing some stuff in UW that is past that info. Not just enzymes but also hardass pathways.

What are some experiences some of you have seen on the real thing? None of my classmates I talked to have seen anything dramatic in that respect. And, I do not want to waste time on that. I need to make sure to nail down Micro better.

There's a lot of micro on the test. I think the top subjects are Path, Physio, Pharm, and Micro. Micro make sure you nail down the "trees" on how to differentiate them. They're not in first aid but are in the Micro cards. I had a micro question in which the only way to get the right answer is to know that Salmonella produces H2S gas and Shigella doesn't.
 
Yeah, I am solid on most things but I am forgetting the details of Micro. I plan on hitting that hard next week along with biostats. I just want it over with. Although I have learned more than 10% failed in my class....admin has no clue what to do...lol. Usually might get 1 or 2. And our average is lower than normal too. Got me a little freaked but whatever.
 
Yeah, I am solid on most things but I am forgetting the details of Micro. I plan on hitting that hard next week along with biostats. I just want it over with. Although I have learned more than 10% failed in my class....admin has no clue what to do...lol. Usually might get 1 or 2. And our average is lower than normal too. Got me a little freaked but whatever.

wtf that's a lot
 
Did you use anything else besides FA, Goljan, and DIT?
I did like 1/4 of the Rx questions. The thing that helped me the most was learning the material during classes. That way all I had to do was relearn it and maybe add 1 or 2 things to my knowledge base when Step studying came around.
 
Yeah, I am solid on most things but I am forgetting the details of Micro. I plan on hitting that hard next week along with biostats. I just want it over with. Although I have learned more than 10% failed in my class....admin has no clue what to do...lol. Usually might get 1 or 2. And our average is lower than normal too. Got me a little freaked but whatever.

Uh oh. That is a bad sign.

Did you guys revamp your curriculum recently?
 
How awkward it would be if your administration kept the M1s in the know.

"So, um, 10% of the class above you did not pass Step 1. Yeah..."

At that rate, they might as well lay off the professors and just buy the students Pathoma, UWorld, FA, and Goljan, and wish them luck.
 
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