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Official 2016-2017 Nephrology Fellowship Application Cycle
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Sorry, didn't apply to Vanderbilt. It sucks b/c no one else in my program is doing Nephrology so I don't have anyone to compare notes with.
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I have friends in UPenn and Stanford and they love their programs. Hard work but seems to be a really good balance between didactics, research, and clinical training. From my friends that interviewed last year, Yale was also fairly high on their lists for the same reason. Columbia ran a really good review on Glomerular Diseases that I attended and they are known for that. One of my Nephrology attendings went to the Harvard program which is a huge research institute (4 year program - 3 years of research!). That is as far as I know; wandering in the dark a bit...
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anybody has some input Of the program in Emory?
What about Jackson memorial in Miami ?
I did not apply to Cali
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Sorry, primarily (only) applied in the Northeast
I heard UW is good but I declined it due to other geographical interest.
Did Massachusetts programs stop sending interviews?
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Did u get interview from UW?
Yes
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Got an interview from a Mass program earlier this week. I dunno the region's general timeline though. Has anyone heard from Cornell or NYU?
I think a lot of programs will start after September sending invitations. My nephrology program where I am an IM resident has not started.
This year there are less applicants as many are waiting for the match to happen to apply to open spots, at least citizens and green card holders. I have a 3 friends that decided to do this to save. not sure what is best.
Anybody heard from Enory?
This year there are less applicants as many are waiting for the match to happen to apply to open spots, at least citizens and green card holders. I have a 3 friends that decided to do this to save. not sure what is best.
Anybody heard from Enory?
I got an interview late July
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Hey, I know that you are only getting a few answers here. It might be helpful to look at the past couple of years (2014-2015 and 2015-2016 Nephrology Fellowship Application Cycle threads). I know they have mentioned a couple of the programs that you are looking for/applying to with regards to when people started to get interviews.
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So in summary so far:
Prior to August interviews:
Yale
Brown
Temple and Jefferson in Philly
Baystate U Mass
Mount Sinai (NYC)
U Texas Southwestern
Wash U
Johns Hopkins
Cleveland Clinic
U. Washington
Northwestern
UPenn
After August:
UPMC (8/3)
Columbia (8/5)
MGH/BWH (Last week)
Jackson Memorial
Saint Louis University
Texas Tech El Paso/Lubbock locations
University of Arizona
Tulane
Oschner Clinic
Feel free to update with specific dates. Just compiled what everyone has been saying thus far.
Prior to August interviews:
Yale
Brown
Temple and Jefferson in Philly
Baystate U Mass
Mount Sinai (NYC)
U Texas Southwestern
Wash U
Johns Hopkins
Cleveland Clinic
U. Washington
Northwestern
UPenn
After August:
UPMC (8/3)
Columbia (8/5)
MGH/BWH (Last week)
Jackson Memorial
Saint Louis University
Texas Tech El Paso/Lubbock locations
University of Arizona
Tulane
Oschner Clinic
Feel free to update with specific dates. Just compiled what everyone has been saying thus far.
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Haha you really aren't giving up are you nephro007?
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Does anyone know if Yale is giving out any more interviews? One of the posters here got an interview in July (so I dunno if that was just a super early interview) but haven't got a rejection letter yet. It's one of the programs I've been eyeing.
I Did not hear from them
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Both are good programs. It is also slightly easier to find jobs in north west region.
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I havent heard from either of them. I think university of washington has already sent out interviews and i did not get it.
Nephro007 , most of the applicants on this thread have already made up their mind . so no point reminding them again and again.
The reality will come, when fellowship start , and then you will find yourself doing lots of crrt , dialysis , aki consults.
The bigger the center , the larger the volume in terms of number of CRRT. You will become a champ in ordering and managing the basics of CRRT( even in your sleep ) and Dialysis in first few months.
By the way , Be prepared to drive back to hospital on your night calls , atleast 50 % of the time , again even more frequently at so called "prestigious or bigger centers "
SO WHEN YOU MATCH , LIVE CLOSE TO THE HOSPITAL , TO REDUCING DRIVING TIME AT NIGHT.
Then at the end of fellowship , you will realize that most of private practices dont actually do CRRT.
chronic outpt hd training is something which is not a strong point of many programs.
When you will join private practice , you will find your hospitalist colleagues are working lot less and getting out early while your are working longer hours and still making less.
Few will stay in academics, which is slightly better in terms of lifestyle as fellows are covering , but still you will have to do lots of clinics and driving around to cover hd units.
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Agreed. Lot of prestigious programs don't train fellows adequately in chronic dialysis, which is bread and butter of the private practice.
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@nephro007
Even though some of your points are valid, there is no point flogging a dead horse.
There is a cohort of internal medicine residents and hospitalists who have ants in their pants to pursue nephrology fellowship. They eat, sleep and breath nephrology. They don't care if they are paid peanuts or have to work prolonged hours as long as they are they are doing what is close to their heart. It is wrong to dissuade them from pursuing their dreams. In fact, we should laud the audacity they have shown in these treacherous times to preserve legacy of this prestigious field.
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Hmm interesting to know. Thanks for the advice!
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I did residency in Lubbock & Nephro somewhere else
For those applying to Lubbock, make sure to ask if there PD is still Dr Prabhakar. He is a VERY smart, nice guy, but he does insist that the fellows do his clinic for him, even if they are on in patient rotation.
They did divide up the inpatient consults into acute & chronic HD with one fellow each so that does relieve some of the load, but it sucks to have to go to clinic with 3-4 pts waiting, while he is just sitting in his office
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thats so wrong. these things shd be encouraged to be posted here so that applicants chose the right program n dont regret matching in places like lubbock. academic mafia s indeed a real thing
Ha ha, I just want to meet that nephro007!!! investing his time in this forum to discourage people!!!! THIS IS THE HAPPIEST MOMENT OF MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE!! to apply to nephrology and get tons of interviews is a dream for me!!!
Nephro007 your methods are not working to discourage people!!! You should change your screen name to something else then!!! like Gastr007 or HemOnc0007!!!!
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As a newly minted nephrology F1 I thought I'd give my input.
I've actually really enjoyed my fellowship so far (2 months). Of course this is still early and learning nephro is new and exciting, but I disagree with many of the people who say that AKI, metabolism, HTN / volume are boring topics. These disorders in a huge variety of clinical contexts make nephro really challenging and exciting. I will agree with above that outpatient HD is relatively un-stimulating, but maybe when I'm earning capitation per patient as an attending I will feel differently, haha. PD is a whole different ball game; the patients are generally extremely compliant, highly aware of their medical condition and you know you can actually trust them!
If you don't have time to sleep, let alone enough time to think through a case then help formulate a plan w/ primary team + other specialists I can see why people are being burned out. (My favorite experiences have been pow-wowing with 3-4 different teams to co-manage acute pulmo-renal, cardio-renal, hepato-renal syndromes.) My program takes the 80-hour work week rule VERY seriously and if you are called in overnight the PD will ask one of the outpatient fellows to cover the morning so you can get 8 hours off between shifts (official ACGME policy), which rarely occurs anyways because the house staff are quite impressive at my institution. Ask about work-hour rule compliance and contingency plans for overworked fellows.
Not all sunshine and rainbows however. The warnings about job availability (and reimbursement) on SDN should really be taken seriously. When you rank programs in the match take that into consideration. Where have graduating fellows gone to work in the past 3-4 years? Does the PD / chair / faculty have local vs national pull? Does the program set time apart to focus on your career on an individual basis? I actually asked fellows how much previous fellows from their programs were offered at their current jobs. Asking such blunt questions would generally qualify as a major faux pas, but we (you) are in a complete buyers market so get the information that you need to make an informed decision (just ask in a one-on-one setting, don't make an ass of yourself).
I had a ton of fun during interviews last year and you will too.
Good luck to all the applicants this year!
I've actually really enjoyed my fellowship so far (2 months). Of course this is still early and learning nephro is new and exciting, but I disagree with many of the people who say that AKI, metabolism, HTN / volume are boring topics. These disorders in a huge variety of clinical contexts make nephro really challenging and exciting. I will agree with above that outpatient HD is relatively un-stimulating, but maybe when I'm earning capitation per patient as an attending I will feel differently, haha. PD is a whole different ball game; the patients are generally extremely compliant, highly aware of their medical condition and you know you can actually trust them!
If you don't have time to sleep, let alone enough time to think through a case then help formulate a plan w/ primary team + other specialists I can see why people are being burned out. (My favorite experiences have been pow-wowing with 3-4 different teams to co-manage acute pulmo-renal, cardio-renal, hepato-renal syndromes.) My program takes the 80-hour work week rule VERY seriously and if you are called in overnight the PD will ask one of the outpatient fellows to cover the morning so you can get 8 hours off between shifts (official ACGME policy), which rarely occurs anyways because the house staff are quite impressive at my institution. Ask about work-hour rule compliance and contingency plans for overworked fellows.
Not all sunshine and rainbows however. The warnings about job availability (and reimbursement) on SDN should really be taken seriously. When you rank programs in the match take that into consideration. Where have graduating fellows gone to work in the past 3-4 years? Does the PD / chair / faculty have local vs national pull? Does the program set time apart to focus on your career on an individual basis? I actually asked fellows how much previous fellows from their programs were offered at their current jobs. Asking such blunt questions would generally qualify as a major faux pas, but we (you) are in a complete buyers market so get the information that you need to make an informed decision (just ask in a one-on-one setting, don't make an ass of yourself).
I had a ton of fun during interviews last year and you will too.
Good luck to all the applicants this year!
