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Got my report today. 1st time takers pass rate 87, second time is 43 :inpain:, overall is 79 :dead: I by no means killed this exam despite studying my arse off for it - at first I was like Oh wow, i did great, then I read further LOL I did significantly better in endo, oncology, nephrology. I did way worse than last time in ID, and pulm - My deciles are all over the place from 1 to 7 😕 Whats strange is the 1 decile can be for getting 50% right or 63% right, and yet 74% right vs 83% right can mean 7th decile. So definitely have some "weighting" going on here. How I got higher deciles in oncology and endocrine I'll never know because those are my weakest subjects - maybe I studied them the most. I'm just so happy this over - and a little shocked that I can study so hard for an exam and still not do "well" by any means - 🙄ack - I really suck at testing 😳

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Got mine today !
I have a question: is there any benefit of the score when you apply for a fellowship next year ?
 
Got mine today !
I have a question: is there any benefit of the score when you apply for a fellowship next year ?
None! Nobody but you know the score. MLE scores may matter depending on the program.
 
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Got my report today. 1st time takers pass rate 87, second time is 43 :inpain:, overall is 79 :dead: I by no means killed this exam despite studying my arse off for it - at first I was like Oh wow, i did great, then I read further LOL I did significantly better in endo, oncology, nephrology. I did way worse than last time in ID, and pulm - My deciles are all over the place from 1 to 7 😕 Whats strange is the 1 decile can be for getting 50% right or 63% right, and yet 74% right vs 83% right can mean 7th decile. So definitely have some "weighting" going on here. How I got higher deciles in oncology and endocrine I'll never know because those are my weakest subjects - maybe I studied them the most. I'm just so happy this over - and a little shocked that I can study so hard for an exam and still not do "well" by any means - 🙄ack - I really suck at testing 😳


So did you pass or not?
 
Got my score today finally! A pass is a pass! Thank God. Not going to perseverate but it was a nice comfortable one!
 
Can some one please explain the Decile thing to me. I still have not got my report yet and I didn’t pass this time but I wanna be ready for it. I saw a friends report and even thought he scored above 50% in most subjects ( he failed too) he got 85% in GI which is 5 decile and 60% is 1 can you explain what is safe ???

Thanks.
 
Got my report yesterday. I'm surprised I did well without studying. I would say ITE scores do correlate with ABIM scores.
 
Score finally came
scored in 88 percentile using their avg score of 500 and using standard deviation of 100 (reported by ABIM)

Items used:
1) MKSAP (read text and did questions)--started in Jan
2) Med Study videos during residency off and on
3) Med Study Questions--Started in July
4) Board Basics 3--Started in May
5) Knowmedge Questions--Started in July
6) Awesome Review--Did in June
7) Did Virtual Diagnosis during third year of residency, great resource for (XRAYs, EKG, CXR, CT, ABG, PFT, GRAM STAIN) is from ACP (this is a great resource to use during downtime when at hospital)

I would rec all of the above
did not do USMLE world, heard questions were too hard and made you feel that you were always being tricked and the boards are not like this. So I did not do.

Medstudy questions were most like the boards but MSKAP questions best prepared in terms of content. Knowmedge was great at bringing it all together.

good luck to everybody
 
Can some one please explain the Decile thing to me. I still have not got my report yet and I didn’t pass this time but I wanna be ready for it. I saw a friends report and even thought he scored above 50% in most subjects ( he failed too) he got 85% in GI which is 5 decile and 60% is 1 can you explain what is safe ???

Thanks.

Hi INTMED.

Here is my attempt at explaining the scores. I am not a statistician but my understanding is that the decile report is a picture of how one performed compared to the others who took the test.

For example if a person obtained this report:
"Cardiology 70% - decile rank 1"
It means that he answered 70% of the questions correct. But in spite of that, if he is being compared to the rest of the people who took the test, his score of 70% is one of the lowest scores obtained by all the people who answered the cardiology questions.

On the other hand, if a person got this score report:
"GI 50% - decile rank 10"
That means that the highest score (or percent correct) people got answering all the GI questions were only 50%. And that probably means that most people did bad in GI (either because questions were too hard, esoteric, etc).

Decile's basic definition in statistics means a particular population divided by 10. Our decile scores are representative of where we are in the rank of those who took the test, ie. are we in the lowest 1/10 (decile 1), or highest of the group 9/10 or 10/10 (decile 9 or 10).

The moral lessons I gleam (at least in situation) from trying to make sense of the score report are the same advise that most everyone posted in this thread already:
1. Make sure that we keep on doing test questions until our scores are consistently > 90%.
2. Devote more time / emphasize on the highest yield subjects.
3. Also spend more time on subjects that we didn't so good on.

Hope this helps. Biostat folks, please feel to correct me if I may have made the wrong assumption.
 
Hi INTMED.

Here is my attempt at explaining the scores. I am not a statistician but my understanding is that the decile report is a picture of how one performed compared to the others who took the test.

For example if a person obtained this report:
"Cardiology 70% - decile rank 1"
It means that he answered 70% of the questions correct. But in spite of that, if he is being compared to the rest of the people who took the test, his score of 70% is one of the lowest scores obtained by all the people who answered the cardiology questions.

On the other hand, if a person got this score report:
"GI 50% - decile rank 10"
That means that the highest score (or percent correct) people got answering all the GI questions were only 50%. And that probably means that most people did bad in GI (either because questions were too hard, esoteric, etc).

Decile's basic definition in statistics means a particular population divided by 10. Our decile scores are representative of where we are in the rank of those who took the test, ie. are we in the lowest 1/10 (decile 1), or highest of the group 9/10 or 10/10 (decile 9 or 10).

The moral lessons I gleam (at least in situation) from trying to make sense of the score report are the same advise that most everyone posted in this thread already:
1. Make sure that we keep on doing test questions until our scores are consistently > 90%.
2. Devote more time / emphasize on the highest yield subjects.
3. Also spend more time on subjects that we didn't so good on.

Hope this helps. Biostat folks, please feel to correct me if I may have made the wrong assumption.


Makes sense thanks !!!!
 
Hi all, haven't posted much recently but figured I'd add in my experience. Finished my IM residency this June, first time test taker. I passed (overall score in the 9th decile). Had decent ITE scores but not amazing. Here's what I did to study:

Awesome Review course (took in February)
MKSAP 16 questions, did them twice (all untimed, tutor mode)
UWorld questions, did them once (untimed, tutor mode)
Reread the Awesome review books once each

Uworld and rereading the Awesome books was done in the last month before the test. I'm not doing fellowship so I had time before starting work for hardcore studying. I do not find that reading books helps me so I did NOT read mksap, medstudy, BB, etc. I learn the most from doing questions and reviewing the explanations with the questions. For anyone else like me who doesn't get much out of sitting and reading a textbook for hours, you do not need to read mksap in order to pass.
 
My story, how I passed on the 3rd try (in year 4 post-residency), and life as a fellow -> subspecialty attending without certification... quite long-winded but I hope that this post is of help to someone. I feel like I am in somewhat of a unique situation, but perhaps someone else out there is struggling with the burden of not being ABIM certified while progressing along the career path of a subspecialist. Perhaps that person or those people think like me and have similar strong and weak suits. This post will detail my residency, fellowship, and attending experience while working to pass the boards and include some commentary on what worked for me.

As a point of reference/relevance, I went through all steps of this process on the west coast/pacific northwest, including now.
After doing very well in college I went to a nationally respected (though not top tier) residency after going to a middle-of-the-road medical school. Though I had little difficulty in testing prior to medical school (I didn't even study for the MCAT and blew it away), in medical school I got the lowest score in my biochem class that they had seen in 5 years - a 43% - on our first test, and did not fare much better in anatomy. I ended up withdrawing from anatomy and retaking it the next summer. This trend continued with most every test I took through medical school. I was in the bottom third of my class, easily, in all testable metrics, but always gathered high clinical scores when actually seeing patients. I passed step 1, 2 CK, 2 CS, and 3 on the first try, though they admittedly required ridiculously high amounts of study time, on the order of 35-40 hours a week of dedicated study time for 4-5 months. I used USMLE World as my exclusive study material for each - no more, no less. Every single question, whether I got it right or wrong, I studied the explanation and learned from it; otherwise I never would have passed. Between medical school tests themselves and the steps, I discovered that I do not at ALL do well with or benefit from a) studying with partners/groups, b) so called high yield lectures/programs, c) flash cards, or d) audio study guides. I also discovered I am much more efficient studying in long blocks rather than short spurts.

I did get into my first choice of residency, likely because I am a halfway normal dude who kills it in interview settings and also because I am a US born, US medical grad from an MD program (which unfortunately but really seems to give you a little leg up in every step along the way). This residency itself - everyone there agreed on this - makes very good physicians and problem solvers but not the best test takers. My in service exams put me in the 13th-18th percentile range nationally each time. I went through the hem/onc match process and ended up matching at my first choice of fellowship. Based on how I was treated during this process and where I was granted interviews for fellowship slots, it seems to me that step scores really don’t matter at this point anymore. It did help that I hooked up with a world-renowned expert in cancer, a physician who is a household name in those circles, and published one article with him which was on my CV. To this date, this is the only research I have published.

Onto my first board attempt and study method… I got the full set of MKSAP books to use as my study material. I started studying in June 2010 for my August 2011 exam. I painstakingly read through each section, reviewing each subject in detail along the way. After finishing each subject I went through each question within that subject in sets of 5, reviewing my answers – right or wrong – and studying the heck out of the explanation for each. I scored consistently around 60% on these sets. I did this for each subject and then did a quick review of book content prior to taking mixed/random samples of questions from MKSAP across all subjects, first in sets of 10 and then 50 at a time. I was scoring around 75% on these sets by the end, but also realized that I have a very good recall memory when it comes to test questions I have seen before – so perhaps this score was a bit inflated due to my recognizing some questions rather than having gotten them correct after conceptual learning. I also used this time to learn how to pace myself by doing the questions in timed sets. It appeared I would have plenty of time and would finish each real set of questions with time to spare.
I took 3 days off before the exam from studying and then showed up; no books in my car, no notes. I have never had any issues with nerves and again did not on this day. I went in confident that I would pass. Compared with MKSAP, the questions were surprisingly very very much longer and more involved. They were also higher order and quite a bit more difficult. I did finish each section, though I was somewhat hurried toward the end of two of them. When I left the test center, I knew for a fact that I had failed the test. My standardized score was 330 which put me near the top of the first decile of test takers.

This was devastating for me, but I brushed off my shoulders and moved on. I knew taking the exam at the beginning of my second fellowship year would be a disaster due to scheduling so I opted to wait until the beginning of my third year of fellowship to retake it (2013). This time, after realizing my yearlong study routine was actually too long, I opted to start studying in January for an August test. As poorly as MKSAP performed for me, I decided to use MedStudy for this time. I used virtually the same study method beyond this as the year before, and after going through the books once and the MedStudy qbank a second time with random sets, I very quickly reread each subject and then retested myself on a bunch of the MKSAP questions (without rereading MKSAP). I started scoring 70% on MedStudy (after reading each section once) which turned into 85% by the time I was done. I was in a pretty high percentile on these sets. I took 2 days off before and showed to the test with my books in the car. I did each section and brushed up on stuff between sections. I felt better about how I did this time, but again knew I had failed. Medstudy questions were far easier than the MKSAP questions and were only slightly more representative of them formatwise than MKSAP was to me. My Standardized Score actually went DOWN as compared with my first try; I posted a 304, putting me way down deep into the first decile.

What made this point in my journey most interesting was that I had been applying for jobs and contacting practices (did not use any recruiters or job list sites; just cold called (well, e-mailed)) in my geographic preferred areas since I was a third year fellow. All were non-academic hem/onc practices. I decided that I would only apply for IM jobs if hem/onc fell through at this point. My job search started in January, right around when board review started. I was most surprised that 75% of the places I put an application in offered an in-person interview. Mind you, these are practices in desirable locations that are not hurting or desperate for business. Every one of the places asked for clarity on my not being IM board certified. By the time all was said and done at all of the practices (a total of 8 out of the 10 I contacted I did interviews at), 2 of the 8 specifically said that not being IM certified was the reason they would not take me, due to their hospital affiliation and the hospital not giving privileges to non-certified folks who have failed even once. Interviews moved forward with other places where there was mutual interest – a total of 4 practices. This was cut down to 2 practices once they found out I had failed a second time during 2013, amidst the time they would otherwise have given contract offers. The two practices still considering me were in different metro areas and very different practices altogether. One was a true private practice with two partners, a truly rare scene these days, at least in hem/onc. The other was a hospital-affiliated practice with 14 partners across multiple locations in a large metro area. The physicians at both were very happy, appropriately worked, and very well compensated; I say this only to illustrate that they were both very desirable positions.
At this point, both of these practices knew they would be taking me on as someone not IM certified and therefore not hem/onc board eligible. Both were very clear that I would have a timeline during which I would have to pass not just IM but my specialty boards. Both were also clear that I would be acting as an attending hem/onc and not a medicine guy from day 1 with their practices. Seeing as I did not know that both would offer a contract, I continued to speak with both and did a THIRD in person interview with one. I actually received contract offers from both. Neither practice restricted any part of my contract due to the fact that I was not board certified aside from what follows here. One said I had to pass IM within 2 years and hem and onc within 4; the other said I had to pass IM within the first year, onc the second, and heme the third. Both clearly stated I would be terminated without cause if I did not meet these deadlines. I chose one over the other just due to practice dynamics, i.e. without putting any weight into how/when they expected me to pass boards.

In the meantime, my studying for the third attempt began in earnest in January of 2014. Though I had read through the ABIM thread at SDN long before attempt #2, I re-read in more detail through the ABIM exam thread this time around. Based on what I had read at SDN, I purchased USMLE World, which had last worked for me for my steps and seemed to make sense. This time, I used a similar method to before, reading through one subject entirely in MedStudy only (skipped MKSAP altogether this time aside from a very small sampling of questions), then doing that block’s MedStudy questions, then doing sets of 10 of USMLE World questions until finishing that subject. I did that for each subject. I did not have a set amount of time to complete any given subject but did watch the calendar to make sure I was going at a reasonable pace. Like before, I studied in detail explanations for every answer choice for every question, whether I got them correct or not. Once I had done this for every subject, I retested every question in MedStudy in sets of 10 randomly chosen from different subjects. I followed this with all of the USMLE World questions in sets of 10 randomly chosen from different subjects. Then, I did the USMLE World questions again in sets of 50. My MedStudy performance was similar to my second attempt. My USMLE World performance put me in the 60th percentile to start, then to the 80th percentile by my third time through all of the questions. At this point, I tried to do questions again, but practically every question in these sets were etched into my mind and I knew the questions themselves too well. I decided to purchase Knowmedge and got through about 1/3 to 1/2 of these questions before it was time for boards. This time, I studied until even the night before the exam.

Needless to say I had crossed into and through July and most of August before taking the boards. I had accepted one of the two job offers I had been given and had already been seeing hem/onc patients in earnest for nearly two months prior to my exam. My studying at this point was reserved for nights after I got home from work and on and administrative time I had at work, and between patients. As an aside, most insurance companies will allow you to see patients, bill, and be reimbursed so long as you become board certified in whatever you are doing within 5 years of finishing training, at least in the state I am practicing in.

I went to take my exam for the third time, knowing that if I failed there would be no going back and I would truly be out of a job with little if any chance of even picking up an IM position. I had plenty of time on each section and left the test feeling very, very good about how I did on a test for the first time since I took my MCAT. Again, to me the MedStudy questions seemed WAY, WAY too basic. USMLE World were highly representative of the actual test, but a good bit harder and more involved than the real exam. Knowmedge seemed to be reverse of World – not representative questions at all, but instead teaching and really hammering home individual points about specific topics. I felt that MedStudy was a good first superficial layer to study with and that World especially and Knowmedge to a lesser degree were supremely helpful in learning how to approach the test and store knowledge. In short, I felt like the test was easy mode USMLE World.

I found out I’d passed in early October and got my score report today. I got a Standardized Score of 438, putting me into the 4th decile, probably around the 35th.

To put things into perspective, I will say that I have done just fine at my job. My heme knowledge and practice is actually superior to most of my colleagues in the practice, but interestingly I was only in the third decile for heme on the boards. My onc knowledge is less than anyone else at the practice (though still easily adequate), but I scored in the seventh decile in onc on the boards. Just goes to show you that what is on the boards is not necessarily practical. I will post here the entirety of my score history by subject just to show you what improved and what didn’t with each study method.

Deciles, by subject and year
2011 2013 2014
Cardiovascular Disease 5 2 1
Endocrinology, Diabetes, and Metabolism 2 2 4
Gastroenterology 1 2 5
Hematology 1 1 3
Infectious Disease 1 1 3
Medical Oncology 3 3 7
Nephrology/Urology 1 1 1
Pulmonary Disease 2 5 6
Rheumatology/Orthopedics 2 1 5
Other Medical Specialty Areas/Miscellaneous 2 3 7
Standardized Score 330 304 438
Standardized Score Decile 1 1 4



Board Prep Used:
2011: MKSAP
2013: Mainly MedStudy(some MKSAP)
2014: MedStudy+USMLEWorld+(briefly and incompletely)Knowmedge

So, in terms of how each study material worked per subject for me, World was far and away the best as it had the most representative questions (by a long shot). It was much better for me for GI, rheum/ortho, pulm, and other/misc. It was weak in cardiology compared with MKSAP, though. Knowmedge was a good supplement but I would never have passed using only it.

Now, onto the next test… onc in a year or so. I hope this story has helped encourage those of you who may have failed twice or are working toward a subspecialty position and are still not certified. Let me know if you have any particular questions for me that might provide any other help or insight for you…
 
Logging back in to SDN to let you all know that whoever says you need >70% on MKSAP questions in order to pass this test is lying.

In the midst of starting a busy fellowship (and had a disaster of a week just prior to the test), I think I ended MKSAP the day before the test with ~68%.

9th decile on the real thing, overall.
Worst decile performance = My fellowship specialty. Lovely.

Pay attention during residency, work hard, and get to know your patients' diseases.
 
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My story, how I passed on the 3rd try (in year 4 post-residency), and life as a fellow -> subspecialty attending without certification... quite long-winded but I hope that this post is of help to someone. I feel like I am in somewhat of a unique situation, but perhaps someone else out there is struggling with the burden of not being ABIM certified while progressing along the career path of a subspecialist. Perhaps that person or those people think like me and have similar strong and weak suits. This post will detail my residency, fellowship, and attending experience while working to pass the boards and include some commentary on what worked for me.

As a point of reference/relevance, I went through all steps of this process on the west coast/pacific northwest, including now.
After doing very well in college I went to a nationally respected (though not top tier) residency after going to a middle-of-the-road medical school. Though I had little difficulty in testing prior to medical school (I didn't even study for the MCAT and blew it away), in medical school I got the lowest score in my biochem class that they had seen in 5 years - a 43% - on our first test, and did not fare much better in anatomy. I ended up withdrawing from anatomy and retaking it the next summer. This trend continued with most every test I took through medical school. I was in the bottom third of my class, easily, in all testable metrics, but always gathered high clinical scores when actually seeing patients. I passed step 1, 2 CK, 2 CS, and 3 on the first try, though they admittedly required ridiculously high amounts of study time, on the order of 35-40 hours a week of dedicated study time for 4-5 months. I used USMLE World as my exclusive study material for each - no more, no less. Every single question, whether I got it right or wrong, I studied the explanation and learned from it; otherwise I never would have passed. Between medical school tests themselves and the steps, I discovered that I do not at ALL do well with or benefit from a) studying with partners/groups, b) so called high yield lectures/programs, c) flash cards, or d) audio study guides. I also discovered I am much more efficient studying in long blocks rather than short spurts.

I did get into my first choice of residency, likely because I am a halfway normal dude who kills it in interview settings and also because I am a US born, US medical grad from an MD program (which unfortunately but really seems to give you a little leg up in every step along the way). This residency itself - everyone there agreed on this - makes very good physicians and problem solvers but not the best test takers. My in service exams put me in the 13th-18th percentile range nationally each time. I went through the hem/onc match process and ended up matching at my first choice of fellowship. Based on how I was treated during this process and where I was granted interviews for fellowship slots, it seems to me that step scores really don’t matter at this point anymore. It did help that I hooked up with a world-renowned expert in cancer, a physician who is a household name in those circles, and published one article with him which was on my CV. To this date, this is the only research I have published.

Onto my first board attempt and study method… I got the full set of MKSAP books to use as my study material. I started studying in June 2010 for my August 2011 exam. I painstakingly read through each section, reviewing each subject in detail along the way. After finishing each subject I went through each question within that subject in sets of 5, reviewing my answers – right or wrong – and studying the heck out of the explanation for each. I scored consistently around 60% on these sets. I did this for each subject and then did a quick review of book content prior to taking mixed/random samples of questions from MKSAP across all subjects, first in sets of 10 and then 50 at a time. I was scoring around 75% on these sets by the end, but also realized that I have a very good recall memory when it comes to test questions I have seen before – so perhaps this score was a bit inflated due to my recognizing some questions rather than having gotten them correct after conceptual learning. I also used this time to learn how to pace myself by doing the questions in timed sets. It appeared I would have plenty of time and would finish each real set of questions with time to spare.
I took 3 days off before the exam from studying and then showed up; no books in my car, no notes. I have never had any issues with nerves and again did not on this day. I went in confident that I would pass. Compared with MKSAP, the questions were surprisingly very very much longer and more involved. They were also higher order and quite a bit more difficult. I did finish each section, though I was somewhat hurried toward the end of two of them. When I left the test center, I knew for a fact that I had failed the test. My standardized score was 330 which put me near the top of the first decile of test takers.

This was devastating for me, but I brushed off my shoulders and moved on. I knew taking the exam at the beginning of my second fellowship year would be a disaster due to scheduling so I opted to wait until the beginning of my third year of fellowship to retake it (2013). This time, after realizing my yearlong study routine was actually too long, I opted to start studying in January for an August test. As poorly as MKSAP performed for me, I decided to use MedStudy for this time. I used virtually the same study method beyond this as the year before, and after going through the books once and the MedStudy qbank a second time with random sets, I very quickly reread each subject and then retested myself on a bunch of the MKSAP questions (without rereading MKSAP). I started scoring 70% on MedStudy (after reading each section once) which turned into 85% by the time I was done. I was in a pretty high percentile on these sets. I took 2 days off before and showed to the test with my books in the car. I did each section and brushed up on stuff between sections. I felt better about how I did this time, but again knew I had failed. Medstudy questions were far easier than the MKSAP questions and were only slightly more representative of them formatwise than MKSAP was to me. My Standardized Score actually went DOWN as compared with my first try; I posted a 304, putting me way down deep into the first decile.

What made this point in my journey most interesting was that I had been applying for jobs and contacting practices (did not use any recruiters or job list sites; just cold called (well, e-mailed)) in my geographic preferred areas since I was a third year fellow. All were non-academic hem/onc practices. I decided that I would only apply for IM jobs if hem/onc fell through at this point. My job search started in January, right around when board review started. I was most surprised that 75% of the places I put an application in offered an in-person interview. Mind you, these are practices in desirable locations that are not hurting or desperate for business. Every one of the places asked for clarity on my not being IM board certified. By the time all was said and done at all of the practices (a total of 8 out of the 10 I contacted I did interviews at), 2 of the 8 specifically said that not being IM certified was the reason they would not take me, due to their hospital affiliation and the hospital not giving privileges to non-certified folks who have failed even once. Interviews moved forward with other places where there was mutual interest – a total of 4 practices. This was cut down to 2 practices once they found out I had failed a second time during 2013, amidst the time they would otherwise have given contract offers. The two practices still considering me were in different metro areas and very different practices altogether. One was a true private practice with two partners, a truly rare scene these days, at least in hem/onc. The other was a hospital-affiliated practice with 14 partners across multiple locations in a large metro area. The physicians at both were very happy, appropriately worked, and very well compensated; I say this only to illustrate that they were both very desirable positions.
At this point, both of these practices knew they would be taking me on as someone not IM certified and therefore not hem/onc board eligible. Both were very clear that I would have a timeline during which I would have to pass not just IM but my specialty boards. Both were also clear that I would be acting as an attending hem/onc and not a medicine guy from day 1 with their practices. Seeing as I did not know that both would offer a contract, I continued to speak with both and did a THIRD in person interview with one. I actually received contract offers from both. Neither practice restricted any part of my contract due to the fact that I was not board certified aside from what follows here. One said I had to pass IM within 2 years and hem and onc within 4; the other said I had to pass IM within the first year, onc the second, and heme the third. Both clearly stated I would be terminated without cause if I did not meet these deadlines. I chose one over the other just due to practice dynamics, i.e. without putting any weight into how/when they expected me to pass boards.

In the meantime, my studying for the third attempt began in earnest in January of 2014. Though I had read through the ABIM thread at SDN long before attempt #2, I re-read in more detail through the ABIM exam thread this time around. Based on what I had read at SDN, I purchased USMLE World, which had last worked for me for my steps and seemed to make sense. This time, I used a similar method to before, reading through one subject entirely in MedStudy only (skipped MKSAP altogether this time aside from a very small sampling of questions), then doing that block’s MedStudy questions, then doing sets of 10 of USMLE World questions until finishing that subject. I did that for each subject. I did not have a set amount of time to complete any given subject but did watch the calendar to make sure I was going at a reasonable pace. Like before, I studied in detail explanations for every answer choice for every question, whether I got them correct or not. Once I had done this for every subject, I retested every question in MedStudy in sets of 10 randomly chosen from different subjects. I followed this with all of the USMLE World questions in sets of 10 randomly chosen from different subjects. Then, I did the USMLE World questions again in sets of 50. My MedStudy performance was similar to my second attempt. My USMLE World performance put me in the 60th percentile to start, then to the 80th percentile by my third time through all of the questions. At this point, I tried to do questions again, but practically every question in these sets were etched into my mind and I knew the questions themselves too well. I decided to purchase Knowmedge and got through about 1/3 to 1/2 of these questions before it was time for boards. This time, I studied until even the night before the exam.

Needless to say I had crossed into and through July and most of August before taking the boards. I had accepted one of the two job offers I had been given and had already been seeing hem/onc patients in earnest for nearly two months prior to my exam. My studying at this point was reserved for nights after I got home from work and on and administrative time I had at work, and between patients. As an aside, most insurance companies will allow you to see patients, bill, and be reimbursed so long as you become board certified in whatever you are doing within 5 years of finishing training, at least in the state I am practicing in.

I went to take my exam for the third time, knowing that if I failed there would be no going back and I would truly be out of a job with little if any chance of even picking up an IM position. I had plenty of time on each section and left the test feeling very, very good about how I did on a test for the first time since I took my MCAT. Again, to me the MedStudy questions seemed WAY, WAY too basic. USMLE World were highly representative of the actual test, but a good bit harder and more involved than the real exam. Knowmedge seemed to be reverse of World – not representative questions at all, but instead teaching and really hammering home individual points about specific topics. I felt that MedStudy was a good first superficial layer to study with and that World especially and Knowmedge to a lesser degree were supremely helpful in learning how to approach the test and store knowledge. In short, I felt like the test was easy mode USMLE World.

I found out I’d passed in early October and got my score report today. I got a Standardized Score of 438, putting me into the 4th decile, probably around the 35th.

To put things into perspective, I will say that I have done just fine at my job. My heme knowledge and practice is actually superior to most of my colleagues in the practice, but interestingly I was only in the third decile for heme on the boards. My onc knowledge is less than anyone else at the practice (though still easily adequate), but I scored in the seventh decile in onc on the boards. Just goes to show you that what is on the boards is not necessarily practical. I will post here the entirety of my score history by subject just to show you what improved and what didn’t with each study method.

Deciles, by subject and year
2011 2013 2014
Cardiovascular Disease 5 2 1
Endocrinology, Diabetes, and Metabolism 2 2 4
Gastroenterology 1 2 5
Hematology 1 1 3
Infectious Disease 1 1 3
Medical Oncology 3 3 7
Nephrology/Urology 1 1 1
Pulmonary Disease 2 5 6
Rheumatology/Orthopedics 2 1 5
Other Medical Specialty Areas/Miscellaneous 2 3 7
Standardized Score 330 304 438
Standardized Score Decile 1 1 4



Board Prep Used:
2011: MKSAP
2013: Mainly MedStudy(some MKSAP)
2014: MedStudy+USMLEWorld+(briefly and incompletely)Knowmedge

So, in terms of how each study material worked per subject for me, World was far and away the best as it had the most representative questions (by a long shot). It was much better for me for GI, rheum/ortho, pulm, and other/misc. It was weak in cardiology compared with MKSAP, though. Knowmedge was a good supplement but I would never have passed using only it.

Now, onto the next test… onc in a year or so. I hope this story has helped encourage those of you who may have failed twice or are working toward a subspecialty position and are still not certified. Let me know if you have any particular questions for me that might provide any other help or insight for you…

Wow! Congratulations! How exciting!! I'm so happy for you! Yay!!!
 
My story, how I passed on the 3rd try (in year 4 post-residency), and life as a fellow -> subspecialty attending without certification... quite long-winded but I hope that this post is of help to someone. I feel like I am in somewhat of a unique situation, but perhaps someone else out there is struggling with the burden of not being ABIM certified while progressing along the career path of a subspecialist. Perhaps that person or those people think like me and have similar strong and weak suits. This post will detail my residency, fellowship, and attending experience while working to pass the boards and include some commentary on what worked for me.

As a point of reference/relevance, I went through all steps of this process on the west coast/pacific northwest, including now.
After doing very well in college I went to a nationally respected (though not top tier) residency after going to a middle-of-the-road medical school. Though I had little difficulty in testing prior to medical school (I didn't even study for the MCAT and blew it away), in medical school I got the lowest score in my biochem class that they had seen in 5 years - a 43% - on our first test, and did not fare much better in anatomy. I ended up withdrawing from anatomy and retaking it the next summer. This trend continued with most every test I took through medical school. I was in the bottom third of my class, easily, in all testable metrics, but always gathered high clinical scores when actually seeing patients. I passed step 1, 2 CK, 2 CS, and 3 on the first try, though they admittedly required ridiculously high amounts of study time, on the order of 35-40 hours a week of dedicated study time for 4-5 months. I used USMLE World as my exclusive study material for each - no more, no less. Every single question, whether I got it right or wrong, I studied the explanation and learned from it; otherwise I never would have passed. Between medical school tests themselves and the steps, I discovered that I do not at ALL do well with or benefit from a) studying with partners/groups, b) so called high yield lectures/programs, c) flash cards, or d) audio study guides. I also discovered I am much more efficient studying in long blocks rather than short spurts.

I did get into my first choice of residency, likely because I am a halfway normal dude who kills it in interview settings and also because I am a US born, US medical grad from an MD program (which unfortunately but really seems to give you a little leg up in every step along the way). This residency itself - everyone there agreed on this - makes very good physicians and problem solvers but not the best test takers. My in service exams put me in the 13th-18th percentile range nationally each time. I went through the hem/onc match process and ended up matching at my first choice of fellowship. Based on how I was treated during this process and where I was granted interviews for fellowship slots, it seems to me that step scores really don’t matter at this point anymore. It did help that I hooked up with a world-renowned expert in cancer, a physician who is a household name in those circles, and published one article with him which was on my CV. To this date, this is the only research I have published.

Onto my first board attempt and study method… I got the full set of MKSAP books to use as my study material. I started studying in June 2010 for my August 2011 exam. I painstakingly read through each section, reviewing each subject in detail along the way. After finishing each subject I went through each question within that subject in sets of 5, reviewing my answers – right or wrong – and studying the heck out of the explanation for each. I scored consistently around 60% on these sets. I did this for each subject and then did a quick review of book content prior to taking mixed/random samples of questions from MKSAP across all subjects, first in sets of 10 and then 50 at a time. I was scoring around 75% on these sets by the end, but also realized that I have a very good recall memory when it comes to test questions I have seen before – so perhaps this score was a bit inflated due to my recognizing some questions rather than having gotten them correct after conceptual learning. I also used this time to learn how to pace myself by doing the questions in timed sets. It appeared I would have plenty of time and would finish each real set of questions with time to spare.
I took 3 days off before the exam from studying and then showed up; no books in my car, no notes. I have never had any issues with nerves and again did not on this day. I went in confident that I would pass. Compared with MKSAP, the questions were surprisingly very very much longer and more involved. They were also higher order and quite a bit more difficult. I did finish each section, though I was somewhat hurried toward the end of two of them. When I left the test center, I knew for a fact that I had failed the test. My standardized score was 330 which put me near the top of the first decile of test takers.

This was devastating for me, but I brushed off my shoulders and moved on. I knew taking the exam at the beginning of my second fellowship year would be a disaster due to scheduling so I opted to wait until the beginning of my third year of fellowship to retake it (2013). This time, after realizing my yearlong study routine was actually too long, I opted to start studying in January for an August test. As poorly as MKSAP performed for me, I decided to use MedStudy for this time. I used virtually the same study method beyond this as the year before, and after going through the books once and the MedStudy qbank a second time with random sets, I very quickly reread each subject and then retested myself on a bunch of the MKSAP questions (without rereading MKSAP). I started scoring 70% on MedStudy (after reading each section once) which turned into 85% by the time I was done. I was in a pretty high percentile on these sets. I took 2 days off before and showed to the test with my books in the car. I did each section and brushed up on stuff between sections. I felt better about how I did this time, but again knew I had failed. Medstudy questions were far easier than the MKSAP questions and were only slightly more representative of them formatwise than MKSAP was to me. My Standardized Score actually went DOWN as compared with my first try; I posted a 304, putting me way down deep into the first decile.

What made this point in my journey most interesting was that I had been applying for jobs and contacting practices (did not use any recruiters or job list sites; just cold called (well, e-mailed)) in my geographic preferred areas since I was a third year fellow. All were non-academic hem/onc practices. I decided that I would only apply for IM jobs if hem/onc fell through at this point. My job search started in January, right around when board review started. I was most surprised that 75% of the places I put an application in offered an in-person interview. Mind you, these are practices in desirable locations that are not hurting or desperate for business. Every one of the places asked for clarity on my not being IM board certified. By the time all was said and done at all of the practices (a total of 8 out of the 10 I contacted I did interviews at), 2 of the 8 specifically said that not being IM certified was the reason they would not take me, due to their hospital affiliation and the hospital not giving privileges to non-certified folks who have failed even once. Interviews moved forward with other places where there was mutual interest – a total of 4 practices. This was cut down to 2 practices once they found out I had failed a second time during 2013, amidst the time they would otherwise have given contract offers. The two practices still considering me were in different metro areas and very different practices altogether. One was a true private practice with two partners, a truly rare scene these days, at least in hem/onc. The other was a hospital-affiliated practice with 14 partners across multiple locations in a large metro area. The physicians at both were very happy, appropriately worked, and very well compensated; I say this only to illustrate that they were both very desirable positions.
At this point, both of these practices knew they would be taking me on as someone not IM certified and therefore not hem/onc board eligible. Both were very clear that I would have a timeline during which I would have to pass not just IM but my specialty boards. Both were also clear that I would be acting as an attending hem/onc and not a medicine guy from day 1 with their practices. Seeing as I did not know that both would offer a contract, I continued to speak with both and did a THIRD in person interview with one. I actually received contract offers from both. Neither practice restricted any part of my contract due to the fact that I was not board certified aside from what follows here. One said I had to pass IM within 2 years and hem and onc within 4; the other said I had to pass IM within the first year, onc the second, and heme the third. Both clearly stated I would be terminated without cause if I did not meet these deadlines. I chose one over the other just due to practice dynamics, i.e. without putting any weight into how/when they expected me to pass boards.

In the meantime, my studying for the third attempt began in earnest in January of 2014. Though I had read through the ABIM thread at SDN long before attempt #2, I re-read in more detail through the ABIM exam thread this time around. Based on what I had read at SDN, I purchased USMLE World, which had last worked for me for my steps and seemed to make sense. This time, I used a similar method to before, reading through one subject entirely in MedStudy only (skipped MKSAP altogether this time aside from a very small sampling of questions), then doing that block’s MedStudy questions, then doing sets of 10 of USMLE World questions until finishing that subject. I did that for each subject. I did not have a set amount of time to complete any given subject but did watch the calendar to make sure I was going at a reasonable pace. Like before, I studied in detail explanations for every answer choice for every question, whether I got them correct or not. Once I had done this for every subject, I retested every question in MedStudy in sets of 10 randomly chosen from different subjects. I followed this with all of the USMLE World questions in sets of 10 randomly chosen from different subjects. Then, I did the USMLE World questions again in sets of 50. My MedStudy performance was similar to my second attempt. My USMLE World performance put me in the 60th percentile to start, then to the 80th percentile by my third time through all of the questions. At this point, I tried to do questions again, but practically every question in these sets were etched into my mind and I knew the questions themselves too well. I decided to purchase Knowmedge and got through about 1/3 to 1/2 of these questions before it was time for boards. This time, I studied until even the night before the exam.

Needless to say I had crossed into and through July and most of August before taking the boards. I had accepted one of the two job offers I had been given and had already been seeing hem/onc patients in earnest for nearly two months prior to my exam. My studying at this point was reserved for nights after I got home from work and on and administrative time I had at work, and between patients. As an aside, most insurance companies will allow you to see patients, bill, and be reimbursed so long as you become board certified in whatever you are doing within 5 years of finishing training, at least in the state I am practicing in.

I went to take my exam for the third time, knowing that if I failed there would be no going back and I would truly be out of a job with little if any chance of even picking up an IM position. I had plenty of time on each section and left the test feeling very, very good about how I did on a test for the first time since I took my MCAT. Again, to me the MedStudy questions seemed WAY, WAY too basic. USMLE World were highly representative of the actual test, but a good bit harder and more involved than the real exam. Knowmedge seemed to be reverse of World – not representative questions at all, but instead teaching and really hammering home individual points about specific topics. I felt that MedStudy was a good first superficial layer to study with and that World especially and Knowmedge to a lesser degree were supremely helpful in learning how to approach the test and store knowledge. In short, I felt like the test was easy mode USMLE World.

I found out I’d passed in early October and got my score report today. I got a Standardized Score of 438, putting me into the 4th decile, probably around the 35th.

To put things into perspective, I will say that I have done just fine at my job. My heme knowledge and practice is actually superior to most of my colleagues in the practice, but interestingly I was only in the third decile for heme on the boards. My onc knowledge is less than anyone else at the practice (though still easily adequate), but I scored in the seventh decile in onc on the boards. Just goes to show you that what is on the boards is not necessarily practical. I will post here the entirety of my score history by subject just to show you what improved and what didn’t with each study method.

Deciles, by subject and year
2011 2013 2014
Cardiovascular Disease 5 2 1
Endocrinology, Diabetes, and Metabolism 2 2 4
Gastroenterology 1 2 5
Hematology 1 1 3
Infectious Disease 1 1 3
Medical Oncology 3 3 7
Nephrology/Urology 1 1 1
Pulmonary Disease 2 5 6
Rheumatology/Orthopedics 2 1 5
Other Medical Specialty Areas/Miscellaneous 2 3 7
Standardized Score 330 304 438
Standardized Score Decile 1 1 4



Board Prep Used:
2011: MKSAP
2013: Mainly MedStudy(some MKSAP)
2014: MedStudy+USMLEWorld+(briefly and incompletely)Knowmedge

So, in terms of how each study material worked per subject for me, World was far and away the best as it had the most representative questions (by a long shot). It was much better for me for GI, rheum/ortho, pulm, and other/misc. It was weak in cardiology compared with MKSAP, though. Knowmedge was a good supplement but I would never have passed using only it.

Now, onto the next test… onc in a year or so. I hope this story has helped encourage those of you who may have failed twice or are working toward a subspecialty position and are still not certified. Let me know if you have any particular questions for me that might provide any other help or insight for you…

Congratulations on passing!
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I also passed on my 3rd try (detailed in my earlier post) . I was dreading being in the same situation you found yourself in if I had failed this time - meaning applying for jobs in my specialty without being certified in Internal Medicine, and hence not being board eligible for my subspecialty. Luckily I don't have to go through that.

I got my score report this week. Overall score in the 4th decile. I scored in the 9th decile in the area of my subspecialty and also 9th decile in Cards; scored 1st decile in "other medical specialties and miscellaneous", 1st decile in Endocrine, 2nd decile in two areas, 3rd decile in two areas and 4th decile in two areas. A number of observations:

- the number of questions per subject is identical to what is listed in the ABIM blueprint. This was somewhat surprising to me since on the exam it felt as if there were far more questions on Rheum, ophtho, ENT, derm and other miscellaneous areas. But it was probably recall bias since you tend to remember questions you didn't do well on.
- there is probably some validity to the test in terms of measuring knowledge base, since I score in the 9th decile in my subspecialty area, getting only one question wrong (of course that's an n of 1 so take it with a grain of salt).
- I'm not sure if it is true that some subjects are "weighted" more based on the score report posted by StudentDoctor07041776 who scored in the 1st decile in Cards and still passed. Rather, the "weight" is in the number of questions - cards has the most number of questions but I believe your overall score is based on the total number of questions so you can make up by doing well in other areas if you're weak in one.

Anyway, I'm glad to be done with this for at least another 10yrs (doubt I would want to re certify in IM though, unless it is required for my job).
 
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I am selling my MKSAP 15 and MedStudy books if anyone is interested. Just need to get rid of them.
 
Hey All! congrats to all that passed. I unfortunately did not. I had a question regarding the scores. I understand questions are weighted differently. But, in broad terms, do you think it is possible to increase my score from 319 to passing for next year??? Feeling super discouraged, but trying to gain some insight and develop my action plan. Any help much appreciated!
 
Hey All! congrats to all that passed. I unfortunately did not. I had a question regarding the scores. I understand questions are weighted differently. But, in broad terms, do you think it is possible to increase my score from 319 to passing for next year??? Feeling super discouraged, but trying to gain some insight and develop my action plan. Any help much appreciated!

Read my post above... went from 304 to 438 in 1 year. Most important point of my post is that you may not study like others do, so don't listen to anyone who says you *need* mksap/medstudt/a study partner/flash cards/awesome review/usmleworld/any particular study aid. Read up through here what each is all about, use your own method, and beat the boards next year...
 
Read my post above... went from 304 to 438 in 1 year. Most important point of my post is that you may not study like others do, so don't listen to anyone who says you *need* mksap/medstudt/a study partner/flash cards/awesome review/usmleworld/any particular study aid. Read up through here what each is all about, use your own method, and beat the boards next year...

Thanks so much! This gives me hope! Your post is awesome and very informative, and I will definitely take the advice seriously about finding my own way that works. Good luck to you on next year's test - I'm sure you'll pass!
 
Passed with good score. High 99s percentile based on mean of 500 and SD of 100. Each year % of correct answers increased in my ITEs (without specific studying, only studying my own patients during hospital hours). Scored high 90s percentile in the ITEs every year. Exam same as ITE, just a bit longer questions. Did some MKSAP Q/As for the subjects I scored a lower percentile in the ITEs.

Bottom line is to know your patients well during your residency.
 
I am about to re-take the ABIMs in 2015, I have used MKSAP as well as UWorld in the past without success. I was wondering if anyone used the NEJM Knowledgeplus questions and if they found them helpful?
 
I had the same questions about NEJM Knowmedge plus. I need to be taking the boards next year .I have found it useful in getting thorough with subject but I am not sure whether it will actually translate to being high yield. Does anyone have any insight on this?
I am about to re-take the ABIMs in 2015, I have used MKSAP as well as UWorld in the past without success. I was wondering if anyone used the NEJM Knowledgeplus questions and if they found them helpful?
 
I am about to re-take the ABIMs in 2015, I have used MKSAP as well as UWorld in the past without success. I was wondering if anyone used the NEJM Knowledgeplus questions and if they found them helpful?

I've been studying for a few weeks now... not all that much but been reading through Board Basics and practicing 20-30 Knowmedge questions a day. Not sure if you mean Knowmedge (www.knowmedge.com) or NEJM Knowledge+ (http://knowledgeplus.nejm.org/). In either case, reading from the advice of others on the board and speaking with others.... people seem to recommend doing multiple qbanks. Makes sense - there's so much information on the exam, there's no way any one qbank could cover it all.

I hate that I have to study for the exam again but I'm actually "enjoying" going through the Knowmedge questions / videos. I'm just pacing myself with this much time out before the exam. The videos are better than just reading the explanations and I'm not feeling the pressure to get through anything right now. Taking the advice of others... start early, pace yourself and not feel the pressure.
 
It has been informative and very helpful to read everyone's experiences with this Test. I am trying to re certify for the last time in April and am getting ready to sit with the books, Qs and other material.

I wish I knew about this Forum when I had an unsuccessful attempt to re cert earlier. I see lot of info, guidance and support here.

I will be logging in frequently, thanks and good luck to all with the upcoming test .
 
Hi, please forgive if this is not an appropriate post, but I am moving and looking to donate my MKSAP 15 books for IM. Please message me if interested. I can ship. No payment for the books necessary, just shipping. Need to hopefully get them out of my house!
 
Can I have it? I just started to study for the exam this year.
 
Got mine today !
I have a question: is there any benefit of the score when you apply for a fellowship next year ?

One of the CARDS program director did ask for that, and since I did not save mine I probably was not offered an interview. Thankfully I matched.

please don't throw your results away!
 
Score finally came
scored in 88 percentile using their avg score of 500 and using standard deviation of 100 (reported by ABIM)

Items used:
1) MKSAP (read text and did questions)--started in Jan
2) Med Study videos during residency off and on
3) Med Study Questions--Started in July
4) Board Basics 3--Started in May
5) ********* Questions--Started in July
6) Awesome Review--Did in June
7) Did Virtual Diagnosis during third year of residency, great resource for (XRAYs, EKG, CXR, CT, ABG, PFT, GRAM STAIN) is from ACP (this is a great resource to use during downtime when at hospital)

I would rec all of the above
did not do USMLE world, heard questions were too hard and made you feel that you were always being tricked and the boards are not like this. So I did not do.

Medstudy questions were most like the boards but MSKAP questions best prepared in terms of content. ********* was great at bringing it all together.

good luck to everybody

I like you study plan so gonna use it except for awesome review part.
I don't have medstudy videos.Wonder worth spending 1600 bucks ?
Also, ********* Question ?
Thanks
 
Greetings,

From those who have taken or are studying for the ABIM exam, are there any specific topics or concepts relating to the neurology questions on the test that you feel needs to be covered better in residency or during studying.

Thanks
 
What do you guys think about knowmedge qbank?

Edit. Why is knowmedgé censored?
 
results from MOC Fall recertification just came out today , good luck everyone,
 
For those who passed the recertification, congratulations! Please give back on advice. For those who missed keep your chin up, you'll get it next time! This beast can be slain!
 
Just got my email and checked ABIM site and I passed. Scores will be sent prior to 1/8/15. This was my second round of recert since 1994 but the first time I really truly deeply was worried, ie freaking out, hyperventilating, shooting myself in the foot( or so I feared) , reading the same line over and over during the test.....I have no idea why except that I am older now(and the hospital system that employs me lacks a sense of humor when it comes to these things).

Advice for those yet to take the test is start early and focus on the core areas ie cardiology(especially cardiology!) general medicine critical care/pulm, ID and endocrine. Didn't really focus on the statistics BS as I never get them right anyway , and to my recall they were MIA on the test. Used MKSAP, Medstudy and Harrison's** but didn't do anything "2 or 3 times", good Lord, how in Hades could anyone get through these tomes more than once and still pay the bills and stay married!?!? Did the ACP course in San Francisco in August but really feel I could have omitted this and spent the week hitting the same resources mentioned above harder....hope this helps and good luck in the coming year to first timers, repeaters ,best to all!

**as far as a closer look as to specifics of what individuals actually used to prepare, I did questions! MKSAP (questions only), Harrison's board review questions, and Medstudy questions. And I did Board Basics 3 questions also(forgot that until I read subsequent posts). I did not read just to read. That for me is like a sedative hypnotic at the end of a work day! I did read all the answers and explanations for those I missed AND those I got correct. In total conservatively upwards of 2300 questions.
Also I was amazed at posts from others that mentioned getting "70-80-85%" or higher correct on their first pass through these questions!! My numbers were significantly lower, probably about 50% at times on these study books and I passed so don't let that rattle you....it is all about learning from your mistakes with this method.
 
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Got my results at 5pm today and I passed! Heart was racing at 130bpm as I clicked on the ABIM link for results. LOL!

This was my first MOC/re-certification exam. I previously passed inital certification Aug 2004 on first attempt.
I thought the exam was hard and truthfully was the only standardized exam I ever took that I was not sure I passed when I was finished. I did however have a lot going on with my life during this study period, see below.
Mind you I found myself cursing the powers that be at some of the questions I got during the exam itself, shaking my head saying to myself, "I can't believe they are asking me this!"

I sat for the Unique Review class in NJ in June 2014 but didnt start studying the material until late August. My ABIM MOC exam was taken on October 30th. The amount of material given to you in Unique Review is mind boggling and seemed a bit overkill.


The only materials I used were Unique Review Course notes and Board basics 3 which I bought on ebay. That's it, nothing else. No MKSAP, no Medstudy, no question banks, etc. I did not do a single MKSAP question or any other type of question bank for that matter. I only did the questions that came with the review class which averaged about 50 questions for each subject studied.
I read over all the notes from the review class 3 times but the third time just skimming with heavy emphasis on GI, Pulm, Cards, General Medicine and ID. I read ACP Board Basics 3 two times fully and intensely from cover to cover. However, the third time just skimming the high yield stuff 3 days before exam.

Study time was usually both weekend days starting late August and putting in an average of 8 hrs total each study day for about 9 weekends total. I will admit I didn't always study both days of weekend but for the generally I did.
During the weekdays I studied ~3 to 4 nights a week after getting home from a full day of work and I would put in about 3 to 4 hrs of reading on those nights.

Mind you while I preparing for the exam I was smack in the middle of changing jobs and taking over an established Primary care practice. First day of new job was September 2nd after leaving my prior job on August 15th.


We also had a new baby girl on Sept 19th and my wife was on bed rest during pregnancy from July until the birth in September. Wheeeew! I can see how life can get in the way of passing this exam and I think that is why a surprising number of doctors fail the first attempt.

I can't stress enough on how good the ACP Board Basics 3 book is. In my opinion it is a must!!!!
Good luck to all in the next round of testing in 2015! I will always check the forms so if you have any questions just post here or PM me.
 
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For those who passed the recertification, congratulations! Please give back on advice. For those who missed keep your chin up, you'll get it next time! This beast can be slain!

Have to echo everything you have said Mike!
And will add the following:

I passed and I must say , Awesome Review was spot on. Read my story from May when I was so discouraged when I failed the 1st time. I followed the advice of this forum looking for a live course. If you can afford to take Dr. Rahman's course, go for it. He is a very good teacher. I truly believe that was the key for me ...........well, and the Board Basics 3 book..

Congrats to those who passed.
Those who didn't, I know how it feels, but please hang in there. Feel free to private message me if you have any questions.
 
I'm always impressed and a little depressed by the accounts of how people pass these tests.

I failed the April 2014 IM recert exam, havng read the MKSAP questions 3 times, scoring > 90% by the time of the test. So that sucked.

To prepare for a retake this fall, which I mercifully passed, I did something I had done for my initial certification exam: writing my own set of questions and answers gleaned from all the wrong answers I got and from facts I didn't know even when I had gotten a test question right.

That list of questions and answers grew to over 2,500, in table format comprising 150 typed pages. I spent the last 3 of 6 months before the exam doing nothing but memorizing the answers to those questions.

That's what separates me from a lot of my colleagues, who can read something once or twice, then know it I have to memorize, and memorize, and memorize, to pass these goddamned idiotic tests.

Just something to keep in mind, if applicable to you folks.
 
I had a lot of frustrations and heartbreak with the recertification exam. I finally passed it. This exam for me was a nightmare. For those of you who are recertifying or certifying for the first time or for those who have failed the test and are trying again, I share the following suggestions. Please do the following and it will help you. 1) do all the MKSAP 16 questions. doing them online on the computer is helpful . and you need to do them all. and preferably do them twice. ....every single question..... the next thing you need to do is find time to go to the Awesome Review board review course . This is an absolute must. Like many others have written I echo the same comments, Dr Rahman the course instructor is simply amazing and he will get you motivated and in the right frame of mind to tackle this beast of an exam. and the Awesome review syllabus is very good and fortunately the course is offered many places thru out the year and the whole course prepares you for the boards very well. I took his one week course in New Jersey and it was the best thing that I ever did. And the last thing that you need to do is read board basics 3. IF you do all of these 3 things, you should pass the exam. But you have to do all three. If you are short on time and can't do all three, then do awesome review and do MKSAP 16 questions in the main areas (cardio, GI, pulmonary) etc. Another thing which is also good to do while at work or in short bursts is the NEJM question bank. I think that helped me too. And the last thing to do is pray to God. The ABIM exam shows no mercy, don't take it for granted. it is a hard exam. I finally passed but it was definitely not easy.
 
Got the official results for my October 2014 MOC exam here are the official results:

Out of total 180 questions, this is the breakdown and number of questions for each discipline given in the mailer:
Cardio 26, Endocrine 14, GI 16, Heme 11, ID 16, Onc 13, Nephro/Urology 11, Pulm 18, Rheum/Ortho 14, Combined or Misc 41


Passing score was 366
Total of 5275 people took the exam and 72% passed.
3740 candidates took it for the first time and 79% of the first time test takers passed.
 
How to Pass ABIM CERT EXAM in 2014

I have Just received the good news from ABIM website that I have passed the recert exam.

First of all, this forum had a lot to do with my success. Therefore I owe to others to pass it on so they can benefit from this strategy. It is my understanding that some of our colleagues here do struggle with passing this exam. I do assure you if you use the strategy outlined below there is little reason that you will not succeed in your next attempt. I hope that my insights will also lead to your success, God willing.

Here are my recommendations:

- Start prep about 6 months before the exam date. Starting too early increases risk of burn-out and starting only a month or two before is not sufficient to cover and master a large volume of knowledge base.

- Single source such as MKSAP questions only, or USMLE World or Medstudy or ACP ABIM cert course will be too simplistic and is likely to end in failure again. Utilize multiple resources which will give various tools utilizing audio-visual media PLUS questions with details answers such as MKSAP 16.

-Find yourself a Study-Buddy. Distribute topics amongst each other in each specialty. Spend 1-3 days each week with 2-4 hours per session reviewing the pre-assigned difficult topics. Do not waste time on topics that you both are comfortable with...you will review those topics individually. Pick difficult concepts in Hematology, endocrinology, nephrology or neurology. If you can explain a difficult topic to Study-Buddy then you have mastered it. Move at a deliberate speed so as not leave any important material uncovered yet do not fool yourself by moving ahead when you still don't have grasp of a particular concept.

-Begin your program six months before the exam date by tackling each major speciality's MKSAP 16 questions. Try to understand why the incorrect choices are not the desired answer as much as the rationale for the preferred answers. Try not to use MKSAP text as it is too time consuming, however do read the MKSAP text for KEY concepts in Hematology, Rheumatology and Nephrology. These three are for some reason more complex questions on the ABIM cert exams. You must plan on doing all the MKSAP 16 questions at least 3-4 times during the next 6 months along with other resources outlined below. Important to know that the format of current MKSAP question is NOT similar to the actual ABIM exam questions therefore your sole purpose to do these questions to get the essence of the teaching points in these questions.

- While doing a systemic approach to your MKSAP questions, try to get access to *********.com. Again the question format here is UNLIKE ABIM, but may basic concepts covered here will build on your knowledge. ********* utilizes animated graphics and tables which is a valuable tool for retention of the materials covered. Further the folks at ********* have sifted through the ABIM Exam Blueprint topics in each specialty and their question are representative of the topics covered on the exam frequently. Animation videos when viewed repetitively will hammer in these concepts thoroughly in your brain.

- ABIM, on its website ABIM.org, puts out annual updates in Internal Medicine each year. These are modules with 25-30 questions with latest updated information that became available within the past calendar year. Although this information might be too new for your exam purposes it does represent what ABIM consider relevant for testing purposes and will likely come up in the next year or two. But for your purposes the FORMAT is identical to the actual ABIM certification exam questions. Make sure to practice all Previous years modules...as they might be fair game for you now. Repeat the hospital medicine modules as well because the concepts are similar to what you are being tested on. Therefore at total of 2011, 2012 and 2013 medicine update module in Internal Medicine and Hospital Medicine will give you many good actual exam like questions.

-Board Basics 3: probably the most priceless source. Know it inside out! Choc-full of HIGH-yield. Must get it.


- Approximately two months before the exam take the Awesome Review course offered at multiple cities around the country. Dr. Rahman has well-thought out his course and constantly reviews his topics. You need to hang on to every word he says during the course and write over your preprinted notes. Make sure you are giving him 100% of your attention and legibly take notes during the next 6 days. Read and re-read them at least 4-5 times....every little details of them until the very last day of your exam.

- That is all you will need as far as the resources. But you also need determination, positive attitude, good health and spiritual well being.

- Make a daily study schedule and stick to it religiously. You are in a boot-camp. Failure is NOT an option here. Get up early in the morning spend about 30 minutes in exercise or brisk walk. Eat healthy. Spend time with family. Minimize any psychological barrier. If you believe in God then be humble and plead for His help.

- Repetition- Discipline- Prepration is the key.

- Good luck.....Work hard....it will pay off.
Can you tell me what the hidden website is?
 
@ABIM MD ********* looks great - I hadn't heard about them but really like their slides (pictures) on twitter. What do you think about their qbank vs. medstudy?

Where is everyone? Have most people not started studying yet? It's dead on this thread.
What is the *********?
 
It's k-n-o-w-m-e-d-g-e, not sure why it's censored.
 
for the in-training exam, do you have to take it as part of your residency program, or can you take it on your own at home too? where does it come from?
 
Congrats, Cubano! I also saw some grammatical errors in the questions. I also took used MKSAP 15 (********* was my main question bank source with MKSAP as a reference). Since we are one year out now, I would say that MKSAP 16 is recommended over 15 for those who haven't purchased either.
Could you please tell me what the ******** stands for? The question bank with video answers sounds interesting but I can't tell which one you are all talking about, if it can't be posted on here for some reason my email is [email protected] could you pls tell me there? Thanks
 
Hey, I can only imagine how you must be feeling. Let me start by saying that the simple fact that you are able to sit for this test in and of itself speaks volumes! Cheer up! You are a smart and valuable colleague! Don't judge yourself based on the results of this test. I wouldn't and most people here wouldn't either!

Also, remember that pretty much everyone eventually passes the test! We are all different and our realities are different but rest assured. If you made it this far you can and will pass the test.

I would make the following adjustments: Get Board Basics App on your phone. Get UpToDate on your phone. Get MKSAP on your phone (you can download an icon of the website so it takes you directly there when you need more than BB but less than UpToDate). Armed with this, whenever you see a patient, ANY PATIENT, even if it is good old cellulitis or COPD, read up on it! You will be surprised how much you will learn (and what you didn't know) and it will be less of a chore as compared to sitting down in the library for hours on end every day.

NEJM just came up with a great app as well for board prep and review. I am actually thinking of buying it myself! Here it is http://knowledgeplus.nejm.org/moc-explained/abim-internal-medicine-resources/

Check it out as it certainly looks interesting. I haven't used it so I cannot comment on how good it is but it's coming from NEJM after all 🙂

Lastly QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS!!!! AND THEN SOME MORE!! I was just browsing the ********* website because people were talking a lot about it and it looks like a lot of fun. Check it out! http://*********.com

So far I know of MKSAP, UWorld (my wife did this as well as some colleagues and they swear by it), *********, MedStudy, Kaplan, and NEJM. That will give you a good five or six thousand questions! Repetition is key! Do them all!

Third time is the charm! Walk with your head up high! You have come a long way! You will overcome!
Hello! Thank you for all the great suggestions! I have a question, one of the qbanks/study materials has been mentioned several times in the forum but is starred out (appears as *********), are you able to please provide the name? Thanks again.
 
Hello! Thank you for all the great suggestions! I have a question, one of the qbanks/study materials has been mentioned several times in the forum but is starred out (appears as *********), are you able to please provide the name? Thanks again.

Sorry. I don't know.
 
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