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Hey everyone, I am just wondering what the average GPA for those that were accepted to HES.
Hi everyone,
Can someone help me workout the HES timeline please? I'm starting in fall 2014 with Chem and Physics 1st year, Organic and Bio 2nd year. So applying in 2016 and starting med school in 2017 is the typical plan I guess. My question is if it can be accelerated with the goal of starting med school in 2016?
My reasoning is that you take 4-5 classes a semester in undergrad so I don't get why they're suggesting only 2 a semester here. Is it THAT difficult? I wouldn't work full time but just do some volunteering. What would be a proposed schedule if this is doable?
Thank you!
Hi everyone,
Can someone help me workout the HES timeline please? I'm starting in fall 2014 with Chem and Physics 1st year, Organic and Bio 2nd year. So applying in 2016 and starting med school in 2017 is the typical plan I guess. My question is if it can be accelerated with the goal of starting med school in 2016?
My reasoning is that you take 4-5 classes a semester in undergrad so I don't get why they're suggesting only 2 a semester here. Is it THAT difficult? I wouldn't work full time but just do some volunteering. What would be a proposed schedule if this is doable?
Thank you!
Do you already have the sociology and psychology courses in the bag for the new MCAT? Regarding the difficulty of courses, it depends on if you have a strong science background or not. For most, two courses per semester is a handful.
You will need it for sure. The new MCAT 2015 will be very biochem intensive.I was a psych major and took one sociology course before so I have that going but I don't have any science background. I heard Biochem will also be included in the new MCAT too though, maybe I should plan taking that as well?
I was a psych major and took one sociology course before so I have that going but I don't have any science background. I heard Biochem will also be included in the new MCAT too though, maybe I should plan taking that as well?
It would be really tough to do it in one year and you would definitely be skipping corners if you did so.
You could do:
Fall: gen chem 1, physics 1, bio 1
Spring: gen chem 2, physics 2, bio 2
Summer: organic 1&2, MCAT and apply to med school
But where would you fit in biochem? HES only offers biochem in the fall and summer.
Hi everyone,
I'm interested in taking a couple of classes (non degree) through Harvard Extension while working full time in order to raise my undergrad GPA and keep my study skills sharp during my year off before applying. It sounds like full time work + 2 courses is a difficult but manageable workload. I have a strong science background and I have already taken the core premed courses. I'm interested in some of the more specific, upper-level biology courses offered, but I want to make sure I don't overload myself and damage my GPA and I'd like to avoid low-quality profs. I was thinking of taking proteomics with prof Viel and evolution with prof Miara. I'm also interested in neurobiology (prof magnotti), statistical methods (prof gutbezahl), and stem cell and regenerative biology (prof anderson). Does anyone have any input on how rigorous any of these courses are and how good these profs are? Or just general input/recommendations for upper level science courses?
Also, if this isn't the best thread to find the answer to these questions, could you direct me to a better thread for me to post in? (i'm new to posting in sdn)
I appreciate the help
I don't have any input on those specific courses, but I will confirm that taking two courses (I did orgo and bio this past year) while working full time is indeed really difficult, mentally if nothing else, but doable.
Any tips on surviving bio+orgo+work? What's the general test schedule? And have you taken Physics here...? Trying to decide which two courses of the three are better alongside each other.
Hi nekonekobear!
I'm following the same timeline except I'm taking physics the first year, bio the second. I'm not sure why that's better but apparently that's the standard so I'm curious to see what others have to say. Yours makes sense because it's helpful to have bio before biochemistry. My concern is that organic chemistry + physics + studying for and taking the MCAT + applying to schools is a lot. Biology will be way easier for me than physics.
Actually I read somewhere that only one semester of biochemistry is enough for the new MCAT. But the summer session contains 2 semesters worth of classes. So how about this modification:
Summer 2015: either physics or bio
Fall 2015: biochemistry and organic chemistry I
Spring 2016: organic chemistry II + more time to focus on MCAT preparation
???
And I'm not planning on taking calculus but I might find an online English course or two in a community college.
Personally I would take only one course over the summer and especially not two difficult ones.
Hey everyone, I am just wondering what the average GPA for those that were accepted to HES.
This is doable. What will your commute to work be like? Will you lose 2hrs/day in the car or do you have an easier commute? That time can add up.Any thoughts on taking Bio and Orgo while working 40 Hours/week at a job where one could not study? I am interested in hearing everyones opinion, but especially those who have actually accomplished this feat. ESPECIALLY those with no prior experience in bio or orgo.
Thanks
You will still have time for laundry, preparing meals and running errands. Also a social life on weekends when you don't have an exam coming up. I did this at HES. I don't share grades on SDN but I did fine. My MDApps link has my GPA I think.If I were to try this I would basically go "all in." spend ALL my income on an apartment between work and school. Never make a meal for myself (Panera erryday) and hell maybe even have a dry cleaner do my laundry to eliminate time spent spinning wheels on useless pursuits. However, if its all going to be for nothing, obviously I would like to avoid crashing and burning, not only wasting a ton of money but completely denying myself a chance at med school as well, lol. Did you do this at HES? what kindof grades did you get dare I ask. I got A- in both gen chems.
Thanks but looking at your mdapps thing theres a good chance I'm not as smart as you. Mind sharing what line of work you were in during your time taking these classes?You will still have time for laundry, preparing meals and running errands. Also a social life on weekends when you don't have an exam coming up. I did this at HES. I don't share grades on SDN but I did fine. My MDApps link has my GPA I think.
Each class is a step up from the intensity of Gen Chem but they're not THAT bad. Get yourself a copy of 'organic chemistry as a second language' and finish it before classes start.
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Hi all,
So I am in the process of registering/mapping out my schedule for the next two years and was look at something like this:
Fall 2014:
General Chemistry I
Physics I
Winter 2014:
English (At my state school if necessary)
Spring 2015:
General Chemistry II
Physics II
Summer 2015:
Organic Chemistry I & II
Fall 2015:
Biology I
Biochem I
Winter 2015:
Filler classes (If necessary)
Spring 2016:
Biology II
Social Science
MCAT
Also, will I have to take additional math classes if I've received AP credits for Calc AB, taken Calc II in college, and taken a Business Stats and another Linear Regression Modeling (Business) in college? I'm wondering because schools like Vanderbilt doesn't accept AP credits 🙁
Any thoughts?
Check the prerequisites - I think you need both Chem and Bio prior to taking Biochem.
Also, I would be afraid of summer orgo. From teachers and students I've talked to, it sounds like a 60-80 hour/week commitment, and difficult to get an A in. After my experience with summer gen chem, I definitely will not be taking organic chem over the summer. Working through Orgo as a Second Language and knowing it backwards and forwards is recommended prior to the course.
Personally I think it might be better do chem+bio the first year, summer biochem, then orgo/physics 2nd year.
Any thoughts on taking Bio and Orgo while working 40 Hours/week at a job where one could not study? I am interested in hearing everyones opinion, but especially those who have actually accomplished this feat. ESPECIALLY those with no prior experience in bio or orgo.
Thanks
Thanks TLZ, mind sharing what you got for grades and any tips and tricks for success that you learned along the way?
I won't share my grades, but I will say that I did well enough.
Tips: Do not panic. Doing well in lab (and on psets for orgo) can make a big difference in your final grade - don't brush it off. For orgo, practice practice practice! And don't look at the answers if you're stuck. Take a break and come back to it. Also, practice exams in exam-like conditions (i.e., at Harvard on a Sunday afternoon or whenever you can) really helped me a lot. And do yourself a favor and do your orgo work in pencil. For bio, I was really frustrated by this class both semesters (I think a lot of people were), but maybe it would've helped to develop a relationship with the profs and head TF and find out early on what they're looking for on exams. Good luck!
Anybody taking Gen Chem this summer at HSS? Tucci seems awesome, and it seems like the class is going to move along pretty fast!
Has anyone taken Neurobiology at HES? I want to take this and Biochemistry this fall but am unsure if the course is too time intensive. I plan on working full-time and volunteer. If you haven't taken the course, do you have any experience with the new professor, Laura Magnotti? She's served as Head TA for Biochem.
Thanks!
Anyone have any input on profs William Anderson, Erin Clark, or Collin Johnson?
Anyone have input on upper level science courses? like neurobio, marine bio, epigenetics...
Anyone have advice on how to do well in Anatomy and Physiology and Biochem?
Also, I'm looking to purchase the textbooks for A&P if anyone is selling them. They are so expensive everywhere I've looked! And are the international/softcover versions the same as the hardcover ones? They seem to be less expensive.
Thanks!
i dont think the orgo and bio combo is for me. I dont think I can hack it. Any thoughts on A+P and bio together while working for time? the A&P Professor, Jennifer carr, has some of the worst ratemyprofessor reviews I have ever seen.
would A&P + Bio + 40 Hours work be manageable? A&P dosn't seem to have bio as a pre-req
I will be taking A&P alongside Bio (I used AP credit for Bio I so I want to take it this semester). Yeah, her ratings are pretty bad...but she's helped out some friends of mine so I don't know.... maybe those reviews were from students who asked stupid questions/got on her nerves? I mean professors are pretty busy at it is and don't want to wait around for students who don't do their homework/the proper research.
I was thinking about taking Biochemistry next semester (the online version). Has anyone taken the online version before or is it the first time that it's being offered as a web-based course?
For those of you in the HCP program (though now I think it is the Premedical program) when do we schedule appointments with the Premed Office? Do they contact us?
Also, for the other bit:
- Consult with the Premedical Office at least once every term.
If I am looking to apply Summer 2016, should I contact the director now, as it is technically the SCHOOLyear preceding application?
- Notify the director of the Premedical Program in writing of your intent to apply to medical school, listing courses completed and courses to be completed, no later than September 30 of the year preceding application to medical school.
1. You have to reach out to them to schedule the appointments. They aren't super strict about that rule but I'd say it's generally a good idea to follow it. Come to the meeting with a few questions. I found those meetings kind of strange - it felt like they were looking at me with this "why are you here?" look on their face.
2. For you it would be Sept 30 2015
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Totally random question, but can anyone tell me what time the Friday Reviews are for Gen Chem? I honestly can't remember if they were at 5 or 6. I'm in Orgo now and wanted to attend a few of the Friday Reviews for MCAT purposes. Thanks in advance!
1. You have to reach out to them to schedule the appointments. They aren't super strict about that rule but I'd say it's generally a good idea to follow it. Come to the meeting with a few questions. I found those meetings kind of strange - it felt like they were looking at me with this "why are you here?" look on their face.
2. For you it would be Sept 30 2015
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1. You have to reach out to them to schedule the appointments. They aren't super strict about that rule but I'd say it's generally a good idea to follow it. Come to the meeting with a few questions. I found those meetings kind of strange - it felt like they were looking at me with this "why are you here?" look on their face.
2. For you it would be Sept 30 2015
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