Oklahoma future 2011ers part 01

[soonereng]

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He all but came out and said Mr. Burns is trying to take the mini from 2011 and if you don't answer the eval appropriately, he will win.

What is the mini and would keeping the mini be a good or bad thing for us 2011 folks?

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Yeah, I guess it wasn't so subtle. His stuff about the class being great also wasn't so subtle. And here, I'm gonna say it -- I thought the Boren presenation was pretty worthless and just highlighted the unequal distribution of health care in the US. I doubt that Dr. Parker? (I totally forgot his name) wants to be woken up every 2 hours to get test results for his more plebian patients. 🙄

So I'd rather gripe about biochem than study. Anybody else pretty lost on the eye/ear stuff? I really like Rada's powerpoints (and I like her in general), but her powerpoints for that section don't seem so great.

I was thinking it was Lyons, but that may have been a different CC.

Minis are just like it sounds, little tests in between the block exams. They "help to lower the amount of material you're accountable for at one time", but really they help diminish the influence a few crappy instructors could have on your grade.

But the executive dean does not like them AT ALL...

You don't get them in every class, just biochem and gross. You take one each at the beginning, mainly to get used to style. Then one more for biochem (see above) and one for anat lab, because the structures on it "disappear" by the time we find the ones under them...

 

[Wizard of Oz]

Yes, yes, another lengthy Wizard post. Get your scrolling fingers ready...

Aniston vs. Jolie. I guess they are all right if you go for that kind of thing, you know, thin and beautiful. Like Freeze said, there is such a thing as too perfect. Slightly chunky, bags under the eyes, pasty complexion, now that is beautiful!

I must say that I am indeed proud to have sparked such a lively debate. Smitty, if you are intending to describe yourself, do you mind if I dream about you tonight? We can study cranial nerves and pharyngeal pouches together while I'm sleeping. 😴 School girl outfit optional.

I didn't think it was too subtle. He all but came out and said Mr. Burns is trying to take the mini from 2011 and if you don't answer the eval appropriately, he will win.

Yeah actually my take on it is that neither Leon nor Burns (or Hall for that matter) honestly have any concept of how to teach us the material in a constructive way while using this set of professors. The Burns urinating contests are cute and all, but they are already getting old. What would our HB profs say about him? Maybe there is some issue at home that makes him want to be an alpha at work. Don't take it out on us. 👎

This just in from the Wizard grapevine... OU Tulsa students have their dean's letters written by the Tulsa dean (Clancy), not the OKC folks. 👍 I think this means that I can continue to antagonize Hall and Burns with objectionable emails.

I think that my biggest beef with the course flow was that we were constantly behind simply because of the testing schedule, not to mention the fact that 40% of our evaluation was comprised of questions from about 20% (or less) of the material covered during the semester. 😡

It's official, my husband doesn't get it. He just came into the study and said I got free tickets to the Hornets game (tonight) do you really need to study?

I get it, RachelD. 😍 Were you a cheerleader in high school? 😉

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Anyone know how embryo grades break down, i.e. how to figure them?

 

[Smitty3L]

It's official, my husband doesn't get it. He just came into the study and said I got free tickets to the Hornets game (tonight) do you really need to study?🙄

Mine either. At least yours is at home though. You could have one like mine, who has TWICE went out of town the weekend before test block and has still not come home tonight. Arrgh. We were warned, no one would fully appreciate our torture unless they were going through it.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

Anyone know how embryo grades break down, i.e. how to figure them?

This is how I remember it, but I don't have a syllabus on me...

65 points for each exam plus 6 free for doing the PBL's. 180 points out of 201 total gets you an A. Another way to say it is that you can miss 21 exam questions and still get an A. That sound right?

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Yeah actually my take on it is that neither Leon nor Burns (or Hall for that matter) honestly have any concept of how to teach us the material in a constructive way while using this set of professors. The Burns urinating contests are cute and all, but they are already getting old. What would our HB profs say about him? Maybe there is some issue at home that makes him want to be an alpha at work. Don't take it out on us. 👎

I think that my biggest beef with the course flow was that we were constantly behind simply because of the testing schedule, not to mention the fact that 40% of our evaluation was comprised of questions from about 20% (or less) of the material covered during the semester. 😡

Is there any reason why we can't have better professors? I'm pretty clueless as to how the whole teaching in med school thing works, but I know it wouldn't be hard to find a competent biochem instructor for the material that we need to know. In fact, I think the class would be better with one community college biochem instructor instead of a slew of "experts," some who can teach and some who are just horrible at it. Instead of getting better professors, we get minis. 🙄 It's routing around the problem instead of solving it.

Yeah, also, the whole being having two weeks before a test of lectures on material that wouldn't be on the test made it so I felt like I was constantly playing a game of catch up. Also, yeah, the point distribution is pretty illogical. It's sort of student friendly in that the test worth the most points is the test with the least material, but it doesn't really make sense. Exam 2 had lots more material, so why not make it worth more than 20% of our grade?

So my brainstorming for the mini issue. Cut Leon's gout stuff by half and also cut the lecture time by both Broyles and Hanas for the first test because that's just a waste of time. Add Weigel in earlier and have the first test block cover through Weigel's stuff. Then do Olson, and combine/cut DeAngeles/Rogers because there's some overlap there. Cut Steinberg's lecture time by half and somehow produce a better syllabus there (yeah, the 4 pages of biomedical significance at the end doesn't cut it 🙄 ) and add his stuff to the last test. The NF/MPS stuff felt like an afterthought, so we could cut that, too. It's not perfect, but it might work.

 

[RachelD]

Cut Leon's gout stuff by half and also cut the lecture time by both Broyles and Hanas for the first test because that's just a waste of time. Add Weigel in earlier and have the first test block cover through Weigel's stuff. Then do Olson, and combine/cut DeAngeles/Rogers because there's some overlap there. Cut Steinberg's lecture time by half and somehow produce a better syllabus there (yeah, the 4 pages of biomedical significance at the end doesn't cut it 🙄 ) and add his stuff to the last test. The NF/MPS stuff felt like an afterthought, so we could cut that, too. It's not perfect, but it might work.

I guess we could all just cut and paste the above into our evaluation. Maybe someone would notice?

 

[Smitty3L]

This is how I remember it, but I don't have a syllabus on me...

65 points for each exam plus 6 free for doing the PBL's. 180 points out of 201 total gets you an A. Another way to say it is that you can miss 21 exam questions and still get an A. That sound right?

You are correct sir. I hadn't done the grade calculation until just now, but it looks like I need a 95 to pull my grade up or I can slide by with 63.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

Is there any reason why we can't have better professors? I'm pretty clueless as to how the whole teaching in med school thing works, but I know it wouldn't be hard to find a competent biochem instructor for the material that we need to know.

As a prof, you are paid for your research. It's actually a commission of whatever grants you get. Teaching is a punishment or a way to pay you if you are near retirement and don't do research anymore (I won't say which profs this applies to, but this does not include Fuller--he was actually a good researcher). Actually this is why med schools have poor lecturers. If they wanted to teach, they would have set up their labs at undergraduate campuses. In general, each professor must teach a month out of the school year spread over a few classes. We feel the brunt of it in biochem and MMI because those are big money departments with lots of profs who need to gather around the trough to get their teaching in. Phys has fewer faculty, so we shouldn't get that many profs. Leon has had his job for ages and doesn't do any research.

Either way, there is no punishment for bad teaching. 2011 readers--it's like that everywhere.

Cell Biology is unique because they actually have people who WANT to teach (though I don't think this includes Rada), so they let them have whole classes.

Here is a scenario. September 2003, Wizard sitting in a biochemistry journal club populated by faculty. Prof 1: "Yeah I only know that because they make me teach it to the medical students." Prof 2: "Really? What is the point of that?" Prof 1: "Dunno, I guess it's on the test or something." Prof 2: "Oh they don't make you write test questions? They make me write for the pharmacy students." Prof 1: "Naw, I just pick the questions out of the bank. There are a few that I'm not even sure of the answers to. I have to review the material every year to teach it."

If you notice when people ask Rada stuff that's not specifically in the course material, she doesn't know. That's because she is an eye researcher who took over her job as embryo course director a few years ago when the last person left. I was impressed by how Tomasek flipped through the lectures like he'd done it for many years. I'm guessing he had!

In fact, I think the class would be better with one community college biochem instructor instead of a slew of "experts," some who can teach and some who are just horrible at it.

And cheaper, too! As 16% of our contact hours (some use the unofficial guide pie chart for GPA, I use it to calculate what I'm paying for), it costs us $2,519.36. You could get ten hours a week at a cc for about $500.

I admire your enthusiasm for improvement, exlaw. I just wish everything in academics wasn't so political.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

You know those liberal hippies; if nothing else, they're idealists. 😉

 

[Doctor Bagel]

You know those liberal hippies; if nothing else, they're idealists. 😉

"You might say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one." 😀

So, eh, maybe Leon does what he can. I'm excited to hear that neuro and physio are better deals in terms of teaching, though.

I think I'm going to miss all the diagrams on the test tomorrow. Tomasek apparently taught the full embryo class for a while. My brother had him and mentioned him as one of the best professors he had here.

 

[JohnnyOU]

But the executive dean does not like them AT ALL...

He's not real into liking students either

 

[JohnnyOU]

I think I'm going to miss all the diagrams on the test tomorrow.

diagrams? what diagrams? 😱

 

[Doctor Surreal]

Thought it was about time I got on here (seeing as how I extensively used the SDN Interview forum to prepare for my OU interview). I had my interview on Wed. 11/29 (which in retrospect was very lucky considering how a lot of my friends who had it the next day are now rescheduled for January). I feel for you all because that wait for me would have been absolutely killer. I got my big red envelope with the acceptance letter on 12/4, so a pretty quick turnaround. Right now it seems like this forum is dominated by 1st years, but I'm sure the other 2011'ers will come around eventually.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

Thought it was about time I got on here (seeing as how I extensively used the SDN Interview forum to prepare for my OU interview). I had my interview on Wed. 11/29 (which in retrospect was very lucky considering how a lot of my friends who had it the next day are now rescheduled for January). I feel for you all because that wait for me would have been absolutely killer. I got my big red envelope with the acceptance letter on 12/4, so a pretty quick turnaround. Right now it seems like this forum is dominated by 1st years, but I'm sure the other 2011'ers will come around eventually.

Yes, surreal, we hang out here and chat while we're studying, mostly because we are bored/stressed/want to vent and to keep this thread at the top where you can find it. You've arrived in the middle of our third (MS 1) or ninth (MS 2) exam block. If you come to school with us, you will get to see what we are talking about firsthand a year from now. We have a handful of 11er's who stop by, and I'd like to think that we allow none of their questions to hit the thread without at least 3 or 4 responses. Think of it like a barbershop, if you will. You can stop by whenever you want to ask us stuff. In the meanwhile, we seem to enjoy kicking it here.

If it is like last year, business will pick up greatly come summer time. I actually didn't find the site until the week before school started and didn't start posting until September. With a post rate of 3.74/day, most would consider me an addict.

A couple of words of advice specific only to me. First, I write three to four times as much as I need to (as should now be apparent). So just scroll until you get to the part that you needed. Second, if you are an attractive female, you may be subject to my harrassment. Just ignore it like the others (or if you are creative, I am receptive to equally sarcastic insults).

 

[SoonerGeek]

There is a dean named Mr. Burns that we can antagonize??.... Eeeeexcellent.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

There is a dean named Mr. Burns that we can antagonize??.... Eeeeexcellent.

Not his real name, but there's a physical resemblance. 😉

Okay, so I need a 77 on the embryo test today to keep my grade. I hope I can do it -- I think I studied like 5 hours total for it (and yes, that's total for the whole section of the class, not just what I studied this week).

 

[Doctor Bagel]

diagrams? what diagrams? 😱

Apparently, Rada said there will be diagrams, but they'll all be stuff that's on the review slides. I'm still not ready for it. Exlaw has very weak spacial skills.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

There is a dean named Mr. Burns that we can antagonize??.... Eeeeexcellent.

Not only does he look like Mr. Burns (Simpsons), but at least in my case I am covering my rump since this forum is not quite private. He has an Igor-like monkey boy who you will also see following him around whom I refer to as Smithers even though he doesn't really look like Smithers.

I think that I am the only one dumb enough to antagonize him. I probably wouldn't recommend it unless you simply have problems with authority like me. Deans don't like it when students get chesty.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Not only does he look like Mr. Burns (Simpsons), but at least in my case I am covering my rump since this forum is not quite private. He has an Igor-like monkey boy who you will also see following him around who I refer to as Smithers even though he doesn't really look like Smithers.

I think that I am the only one dumb enough to antagonize him. I probably wouldn't recommend it unless you simply have problems with authority like me. Deans don't like it when students get chesty.

I think that person might not like me. I guess I definitely have to go to Tulsa. 🙂

 

[Wizard of Oz]

I think that person might not like me. I guess I definitely have to go to Tulsa. 🙂

Yeah best to get some fresh deans to ruffle. Burns HATES the Tulsa campus.

So since you use notegroups, what did you think about embryo C-I-30 where the note taker wrote everything in paragraph form according to slide? It was O'Don's second hour.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

If it's any consolation, he's actually a really good lecturer. He did the cardiovascular section of PCM II for us, and I really liked it.

 

[want2beadoc]

What unequal distribution of healthcare? That letter is coming... sooner or later. I agree Leon didn't just say "Fill out this evaluation because it will help make appropriate changes" he said "Fill this out, but don't if you want things to change"

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Yeah best to get some fresh deans to ruffle. Burns HATES the Tulsa campus.

So since you use notegroups, what did you think about embryo C-I-30 where the note taker wrote everything in paragraph form according to slide? It was O'Don's second hour.

I actually didn't study from that one, but I just looked at it. For one, it's too long. Also, the division is weird. You know, he is writing everything in paragraph form, but he divides it up into a, b, c, d, etc, but the divisions don't make sense. From what I understand, though, it was an impossible lecture to follow. The questions on the test weren't too horrible, though.

want2b, perfect description of the speech yesterday. To the point and true! 👍

 

[Wizard of Oz]

exalw, so true about the Bell Biv Devoe. My favorite line was, "the low pro hoe should be cut like an afro." Not sure what it means, but it's gotta be dirty. I looked on You Tube but couldn't find the original version of "Do Me." "Mooove to the jacuzzi, ooh that booty, smack it up, flip it, rub it down, oh noooo."

Embryo is now over. Does anybody else feel like they did well on the exams but didn't really understand most of the material? Maybe I should have looked at the CD.

Smitty, was that your perfume I was using my CN I SVA's to detect this morning?

 

[glp]

Embryo is now over. Does anybody else feel like they did well on the exams but didn't really understand most of the material? Maybe I should have looked at the CD.

my m.o. for embryo involved looking at the material for the first time on monday after biochem, cramming as much info into my head as possible in a 20 hr period, and spitting it back in 65 questions on the test. at 2 oclock, two hrs into studying anatomy everything is lost like it never happened. it feels kind of like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsJjy359i0

 

[Smitty3L]

Smitty, was that your perfume I was using my CN I SVA's to detect this morning?

You people are lucky that I even showered today, things like perfume, make-up, combing the hair, out of the question. Were you sitting near me?

 

[Doctor Bagel]

my m.o. for embryo involved looking at the material for the first time on monday after biochem, cramming as much info into my head as possible in a 20 hr period, and spitting it back in 65 questions on the test. at 2 oclock, two hrs into studying anatomy everything is lost like it never happened. it feels kind of like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsJjy359i0

that sounds like how i did it this last time. for the last test, i went to class, studied a few hours the week before and then did some cramming the night before. that resulted in a high a. with this test, i didn't look at it all until yesterday or go to class, and a low a was the result. i did have to study more for the first test, though, just to visualize everything.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

You people are lucky that I even showered today, things like perfume, make-up, combing the hair, out of the question. Were you sitting near me?

I was posterior and left lateral in seat H18. Yeah me too BTW. I am easily identifiable by my do-rag during block week.

 

[JohnnyOU]

I was in seat B-01 ... right in the front again just like last embryo exam.
Actually it was worse last time....I think exlaw was sitting in my old seat...front row...lol

It's not fair to all the others because they get blinded by the glare off my head.

I was SO SURE I had failed Embryo after that exam...I even went to the prof after the exam and talked about my options because I knew I'd failed. I got a 77% tho....which is AWESOME 😀 (for me)

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I was in seat B-01 ... right in the front again just like last embryo exam.
Actually it was worse last time....I think exlaw was sitting in my old seat...front row...lol

It's not fair to all the others because they get blinded by the glare off my head.

I was SO SURE I had failed Embryo after that exam...I even went to the prof after the exam and talked about my options because I knew I'd failed. I got a 77% tho....which is AWESOME 😀 (for me)

Fantastic!! 👍

Yeah, the front row sucks.

 

[RachelD]

My average after this test is a 79.60, not kidding. 1 more question wrong and I would miss a b. Thank goodness they curve at a 79.5! (I sure hope we get all 6 pbl points) Talk about cutting it close!

Now on to Anatomy, I have to get an average of 63% on both or i'll be in the lab over the summer 🙁

 

[Mr. Freeze]

My average after this test is a 79.60, not kidding. 1 more question wrong and I would miss a b. Thank goodness they curve at a 79.5! (I sure hope we get all 6 pbl points) Talk about cutting it close!

Now on to Anatomy, I have to get an average of 63% on both or i'll be in the lab over the summer 🙁

😱 With dental students!!😱

 

[RachelD]

😱 With dental students!!😱

Ok, so I called the cell bio office to check my anatomy grade (my ocd is kickin in 😀 ) and I had more points than i thought so now I can get an average of a 57% on tomorrow and still pass. Thank God! If I can't do that I guess I deserve to be in lab with the dental students

 

[JohnnyOU]

Now on to Anatomy, I have to get an average of 63% on both or i'll be in the lab over the summer 🙁

I think I need ~ 70% on both.
HEY...maybe we'll get to spend the summer together!

 

[RachelD]

I think I need ~ 70% on both.
HEY...maybe we'll get to spend the summer together!

You can do it! You did well on embryo and some of that stuff will be on the written exam tomorrow! WE SHALL NOT FAIL!!!!!

 

[JohnnyOU]

You can do it! You did well on embryo and some of that stuff will be on the written exam tomorrow! WE SHALL NOT FAIL!!!!!

I just called the cell bio office ... got the idea from you 🙂

Assuming I get the 15 pbl and 30 dissection pnts:
I need a 57% on both to pass (IF I calculated everything right).

I feel really unprepared though...gonna be a long night and I'm already sleepy 👍

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I just called the cell bio office ... got the idea from you 🙂

Assuming I get the 15 pbl and 30 dissection pnts:
I need a 57% on both to pass (IF I calculated everything right).

I feel really unprepared though...gonna be a long night and I'm already sleepy 👍

I'm tempted to call, but I'll resist. 🙂 Yeah, I don't like the head and neck. I thought the last test was actually easier than it could have been (at least it was easier than some of the questions in Chung), so I hope we don't get it with this test.

It's also probably not good that I can't recognize anything in the pharynx.

 

[RachelD]

I just called the cell bio office ... got the idea from you 🙂

Assuming I get the 15 pbl and 30 dissection pnts:
I need a 57% on both to pass (IF I calculated everything right).

I feel really unprepared though...gonna be a long night and I'm already sleepy 👍

See, that's not so bad! We can do it!!! We just need 83/145 questions right. We can miss 62 questions!
Gosh, we're pathetic. By the way, those of you getting A's can't call the office!! It's only for those of us in danger of failing.😛

 

[RachelD]

For the class of 2011, O'don want's to get rid of the Anatomy lists. And, since he is now in charge???😱

 

[Benoit]

What are these "Anatomy lists" you speak of?

 

[Wizard of Oz]

See, that's not so bad! We can do it!!! We just need 83/145 questions right. We can miss 62 questions!
Gosh, we're pathetic. By the way, those of you getting A's can't call the office!! It's only for those of us in danger of failing.😛

Not getting an A nor calling the office, but this is another reason why they should use the Blackboard link that they have installed on Hippocrates.

Yeah the O'Don attitude isn't impressing me a whole lot. I'm not really following the whole BRS controversy or whatever (the book itself is relatively low selling relative to the rest of the BRS series since GA is not a big step 1 component), but Chung is a good guy. I hope that he comes back for next year. Not jazzed that the Irishman is early on the schedule for Neuro if his embryo lectures were representative.

BTW I love this site. Definitely a procrastinator's dream.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

For the class of 2011, O'don want's to get rid of the Anatomy lists. And, since he is now in charge???😱

I'm a weirdo, but I wouldn't mind getting rid of the list because it always trips me up. On the last practical, I miscoded that one thing that was the same answer twice in a row, so I missed two points. I think I put 244 instead of 344 or something like that. I also missed something because it wasn't on the list. If they keep the list, everything should be on it because that's just tricky otherwise. 😡

I'm surprised he'd do that, though, since only around 20 people voted for getting rid of it. Most of the students seem to like it how it is.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

What are the "Anatomy lists" you speak of?

When we take a practical exam, they give us a numbered list of all the possible structures so that you just write down numbers instead of structure names. It's supposed to facillitate grading, but every once in a while we have to name a structure not on the list (e.g. "lateral sacral artery"). When that happens, it makes us paranoid. On the other hand, having the list can cue you on things from time to time, so it's sort of a double-edged sword.

They give us lists before test block week--a short list and a long list. Guys, help me out with this. I don't really know what the difference is between the lists, nor do I use them. There is some debate going on regarding their utility. I've never used them before, but I guess in theory you should take the list with you to the lab and see if you can find everything. Mind you, there are 20(?) bodies available for tagging.

 

[Antigunner]

What are these "Anatomy lists" you speak of?

For the practical exams, each student gets a numbered list of several hunderd gross structures. You basically identify what's tagged, find it on the list, and write the number on your answer sheet. Apparently they are considering doing away with these lists.

Personally, I don't think it would be that big a deal if they did. For the most part, you either know what the structure is and find it on the list, or you get it wrong. It's not very often that you could look at something, have no idea what it is, and figure it out just by looking at the list. Possible? Sure. Likely? No.

Bottom line - I wouldn't worry too much about it. It won't make much of a difference either way.

 

[Benoit]

In undergrad we didn't have a list. 🙁 It sucked because you had to spell everything right or it was wrong.. which didn't happen too often but whatever.

No big deal to me. Seems like it would be worse for a structure to NOT be on there. Do they throw those Qs out??

 

[Doctor Bagel]

In undergrad we didn't have a list. It sucked because you had to spell everything right or it was wrong.

No big deal to me. Seems like it would be worse for a structure to NOT be on there.

I don't think they'd count off for spelling if they didn't have the list, so I think antigunner's right that it wouldn't really make it harder. Also, yeah, as I said above -- when stuff's not on the list, it freaks you out. My other thought is that sometimes it's sort of stressful to find stuff on the list because it's not always where you think it'd be.

Yeah, I've heard rumors about the Chung/O'Don animosity. I know O'Don would love to take over the class, and his enthusiasm is good. I'd be worried that he'd make too many changes too quickly, though. The current model works pretty well, imo. Also, yeah, the class could very well be harder with O'Don as the main instructor.

I'm going to miss Dr. Chung tomorrow. 🙁 I loved the primal scream and the halloween candy.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

For the practical exams, each student gets a numbered list of several hunderd gross structures. You basically identify what's tagged, find it on the list, and write the number on your answer sheet. Apparently they are considering doing away with these lists.

Personally, I don't think it would be that big a deal if they did. For the most part, you either know what the structure is and find it on the list, or you get it wrong. It's not very often that you could look at something, have no idea what it is, and figure it out just by looking at the list. Possible? Sure. Likely? No.

Bottom line - I wouldn't worry too much about it. It won't make much of a difference either way.

Yeah he's right. I think that the list cued me to a correct structure only once out of about 170 structures so far.

 

[WhoisJohnGalt]

Not jazzed that the Irishman is early on the schedule for Neuro if his embryo lectures were representative.

I think it was pretty universally accepted that his embryo lectures are not representative of his neuro lectures. Neuro's really his thing, so he's pretty passionate about it and he's much less confusing than in embryo (I remember getting absolutely NOTHING but total confusion from his embryo lectures). It's also not a structure listing off thing like in Gross. I think you'll probably be pleasantly surprised.

Also, I really hope they don't do away with the list! It cued me at least a few times 🙂 Obviously, if you're a future Gross TA (gunner) like antigunner, it's not going to matter, but if anatomy's your worst subject, it's a good thing to have 🙂