Oklahoma future 2011ers part 01

[Amxcvbcv]

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Well I'm glad that you all are so active on this thing ---- it keeps the thread at the very top when you click on class threads 🙂 I'm in the midst of studying for Finals, but the level of motivation I had prior to the acceptance letter is not nearly the same. So I guess this brings up something I've wondered about --- how hard do I need to try for the rest of my classes? Like is there anything that could possible take my acceptance away? Not saying that anything this drastic is going to happen to me --- my personal character and "perfectionist" attitude will keep me doing my best --- but it's just something I've thought about. Regardless, it's definitely a weight off my shoulders having already gotten in.

I don't know this for sure, but my guess is there are two things that could possibly get your acceptance retracted.

Failing a prerequisite or bringing your GPA below a 3.0.

I'm not even sure the second one would do it.

Other than that, have fun and enjoy the no pressure environment.

It's 5:00 and I've been up for two hours trying to squeeze in every last bit of pharmacology.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

Well I'm glad that you all are so active on this thing ---- it keeps the thread at the very top when you click on class threads 🙂 I'm in the midst of studying for Finals, but the level of motivation I had prior to the acceptance letter is not nearly the same. So I guess this brings up something I've wondered about --- how hard do I need to try for the rest of my classes? Like is there anything that could possible take my acceptance away? Not saying that anything this drastic is going to happen to me --- my personal character and "perfectionist" attitude will keep me doing my best --- but it's just something I've thought about. Regardless, it's definitely a weight off my shoulders having already gotten in.

As long as you finish your pre-req's properly, there isn't anything you can do to cause a retraction in admission. In fact, you will probably only be contacted by the college once or twice until summer (and then, it will likely only be good news).

Use your remaining interviews to ask a lot of questions about their curriculum, i.e. how much PBL do they use, how do they give grades, how are their exams structured, do they just focus on history the first year, or do you get to practice physical exam skills too? Truth be told, med school content is nearly identical from school to school because boards and accreditation say so, but there are a few variations in delivery picking up steam.

I woke up at 0510 today but have no idea why. My alarm was set for 0740.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Well I'm glad that you all are so active on this thing ---- it keeps the thread at the very top when you click on class threads 🙂 I'm in the midst of studying for Finals, but the level of motivation I had prior to the acceptance letter is not nearly the same. So I guess this brings up something I've wondered about --- how hard do I need to try for the rest of my classes? Like is there anything that could possible take my acceptance away? Not saying that anything this drastic is going to happen to me --- my personal character and "perfectionist" attitude will keep me doing my best --- but it's just something I've thought about. Regardless, it's definitely a weight off my shoulders having already gotten in.

Make all Bs and you're

fine. Make a C or two, and you're probably still okay. I'd try to avoid making a D or making straight Cs. There you go. 🙂

Yeah, AG's right about the gunner definition. There are lots of people who are annoying about everything in med school, but gunners are actual jerks. I haven't met any, either, so that's a good thing.

I don't get why being a sniper is a bad thing. It sounds like someone who does well and keeps it to themselves, which is okay with me. In fact, that beats bragging about how well you're doing.

Only a couple more hours and anatomy will be just a memory!

 

[JohnnyOU]

Only a couple more hours and anatomy will be just a memory!

YAY !!!!! 😀

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Well I'm glad that you all are so active on this thing ---- it keeps the thread at the very top when you click on class threads 🙂 I'm in the midst of studying for Finals, but the level of motivation I had prior to the acceptance letter is not nearly the same. So I guess this brings up something I've wondered about --- how hard do I need to try for the rest of my classes? Like is there anything that could possible take my acceptance away? Not saying that anything this drastic is going to happen to me --- my personal character and "perfectionist" attitude will keep me doing my best --- but it's just something I've thought about. Regardless, it's definitely a weight off my shoulders having already gotten in.

I would think you'd have to do something that caused you to be incarcerated the day school starts. And even then, you'd have to get caught. Just make > C's, don't get DUIs, don't come to OUHSC high, that sort of thing.

Speaking of which, has anyone heard anything about background checks for us? Someone said we had to pay for our own, but I haven't heard anything about when or where. I'd hate to think Johnny has put himself through all this only to have his history of trafficking little boys from Thailand come up later...

 

[Jwax]

The nicest thing (I imagine) about getting an acceptance early on is that you know you can do mediocre you're last semester of school & be hunky dorey. I WANT THAT THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Conveniently (sp?), if all goes well (fingers crossed) at my January 10th interview, I will get an acceptance letter just before school starts.

Oh, please God...

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Or at least the add drop date...😀

 

[Benoit]

Academic misconduct will probably strip that acceptance too.. watch out when writing papers (as if this should even be a problem).

 

[Wizard of Oz]

Anybody else feel like they felt a bit of a different flavor on the anatomy exam today?

 

[Mr. Freeze]

yeah, that one tasted like ass.

 

[RachelD]

Yes and everyone in my mod is pissed. o'don better make the practical easy as hell or else
I studied my ass off and I think I only got 50/75 (based on the smart people in my mods answers). It's not going to change my grade but I thought some of the questions were excessively tricky and in general more difficult.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

(based on the smart people in my mods answers).

Precisely why I keep earplugs and headphones in my desk. Nothing drowns the peanut gallery like expanding foam and Slipknot...

I may not be as anonymous as I think, but I sat next to you. Or you sat next to me, whatever.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Anybody else feel like they felt a bit of a different flavor on the anatomy exam today?

Yeah, I made my lowest written grade so far. It asked all this stupid attachment cr@p, which I hate and don't study. O'Don!! 😡

 

[RachelD]

Precisely why I keep earplugs and headphones in my desk. Nothing drowns the peanut gallery like expanding foam and Slipknot...

I may not be as anonymous as I think, but I sat next to you. Or you sat next to me, whatever.

Oh, were you on my left? I came in late because I-40 was backed up for miles!

 

[Mr. Freeze]

yep.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

So the practical sucked, too. 🙂

So how much should we study for this PCM thing? I heard a rumor that only 4 people made As on it last year. If that's the case, I might just say screw it.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

So the practical sucked, too. 🙂

So how much should we study for this PCM thing? I heard a rumor that only 4 people made As on it last year. If that's the case, I might just say screw it.

I think there were more than that. A vast majority of our class made As in the course, overall. I've (sadly) still got the grade breakdown they e-mailed to us after the course was over, so I'll crunch some numbers on it when I get back from church. 😛

 

[Smitty3L]

I don't think I can really comment on the anatomy test. I was the least prepared for this test, so of course it felt harder to me. I decided to not kill myself trying to raise my grade and blew off studying. And let me tell you something, it felt great! 😍 Apathy 😍

I just looked at the grading scheme for PCM and this test is worth 30% of our grade. I guess I can muster up the motivation to read the syllabus. One more day, I can do one more day. Anybody else feel a little overwhelmed with things they want to do over the break? I have put everything off thinking I would get to it during the break. You can bet that what I will probably do is a lot of sitting on butt. Then when next semester hits I'll think, why didn't I use my time better? Oh yeah...I'm lazy.

 

[JohnnyOU]

I am so pissed...I wanted to punch this stupid b*tch at circleK.
I get gas and try to leave...she pulls in off the road and beelines for the car wash next door...there was already two in line so she parks sideways to "save her spot" i guess and cuts off all the through-traffic and now I can't get back on the road...so:
HONK HONK
*she rolls down window and point to car wash*
"HEY...you're blocking traffic...I don't want a car wash...just back up a foot so I can get thru and leave"
10 secs later...
HONK HONK HONK
MOVE YOUR DAMN CAR!!!!
Her: Oh you wanna get into this with me right now?!!
Me: what?
Her: You wanna get into this cuz I had a day and I'm in the mood.
(she's about 25 and looks about 125#s....real scarey..lol)
Me: Just MOVE your car back.
Her: If you hit my car your f*ckin in for it!
Me; Move your f*cking car you stupid b*tch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Move your f*cking car PLEASE you dumb*ss (I smile real big)
* I start moving the car forward*
MOVE YOU C*NT!!!!! (sorry but I was fuming by this time)
Her: I want your tag number!!!!
Me: Then back the f*ck up you idiot and you can see it all you want!

she finally backs up that whole foot or so..all mad and cussing...

and I can now leave.

sheesh

 

[JohnnyOU]

Yea I think everyone was a lil pissed about that written.
Odon wrote half and Dandejana wrote the other half.
I got a 77% on the written and a 53% on the practical.

So I passed by about 13 structures...
that's kinda close but I'm just happy no more GA this summer and no class of 2011 for me 👍

 

[SoonerGeek]

Few more questions:

You guys mentioned your study times. Is that time you spend studying when class is over, or the amount of time you spend studying/going to class. I know of one non-trad second year at OU, and her significant other says she does not go to class but spends 8 - 12 hours per day studying. That may be an unintentional exageration.

Also, in the summer before I start school, I plan to travel in Central America and Europe a bit. This should leave some time for reading. Would it be helpful to get a head start and begin reading one of the text books for Embryology or something? I know it may be a bit gunnerish, but since I rarely, if ever, read the text books in undergrad, I am worried that I may fall behind.

JohnnyOU, there are times in my life when I am thankful that I do not own a firearm. Your situation today would have been one of them for me. Great attitude for a future doctor to have, eh?

 

[Wizard of Oz]

Do we have like a lunch or something tomorrow after the test? I might be into it for the free food. Of course I'll be sure to pick up that histo syllabus first...

 

[JohnnyOU]

JohnnyOU, there are times in my life when I am thankful that I do not own a firearm. Your situation today would have been one of them for me. Great attitude for a future doctor to have, eh?

I thought the exact same thing.

 

[JohnnyOU]

Do we have like a lunch or something tomorrow after the test? I might be into it for the free food. Of course I'll be sure to pick up that histo syllabus first...

yea...I think there's that...plus a party tomorrow night?
Not sure tho.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

Few more questions:

You guys mentioned your study times. Is that time you spend studying when class is over, or the amount of time you spend studying/going to class. I know of one non-trad second year at OU, and her significant other says she does not go to class but spends 8 - 12 hours per day studying. That may be an unintentional exageration.

In my case, I don't go to class unless I have to so that was just going over the material myself. At the beginning of the year, we will give you the results of a survey of how much we study (at least if next year is like last). Here is the breakdown from 09's MS 1:

<5 hours/week 8%
5-10 6%
10-20 16%
20-30 31%
30-40 16%
40-50 11%
>50 10%

I rounded so it may not add up to 100%. Yeah there are a few people who will go to all of the classes and then come home and study for many hours later while re-listening to the lectures or re-writing their notes.

You will have to try it and find what you like. Almost the whole class showed up for all of our classes until we actually had a test.

Also, in the summer before I start school, I plan to travel in Central America and Europe a bit. This should leave some time for reading. Would it be helpful to get a head start and begin reading one of the text books for Embryology or something? I know it may be a bit gunnerish, but since I rarely, if ever, read the text books in undergrad, I am worried that I may fall behind.

Understanding some Spanish is probably the best skill you can pick up, particularly if you want to stay in OKC for your clinicals. Just about everybody says to do something you enjoy and leave your books on the shelf. The thing is, you could flip through some Netters flash cards or something, but until you know to what extent you are going to be tested on everything, your reading is not going to be that fruitful.

Keep the Q's coming...

 

[RachelD]

Yea I think everyone was a lil pissed about that written.
Odon wrote half and Dandejana wrote the other half.
I got a 77% on the written and a 53% on the practical.

So I passed by about 13 structures...
that's kinda close but I'm just happy no more GA this summer and no class of 2011 for me 👍

Things worked out ok for me too. I think I got like a 72 on the written and a 65 on the practical. The good news is no more anatomy lab!!! I don't even plan on going back in there to get my lab coat. It's officially been donated. They probably get pissed that people just leave there stuff but oh well.
I hope some of you guys show up at the "thing" tomorrow night, its at my modmates house and it should be fun. I'm getting drunk!!😀

 

[JohnnyOU]

Things worked out ok for me too. I think I got like a 72 on the written and a 65 on the practical. The good news is no more anatomy lab!!! I don't even plan on going back in there to get my lab coat. It's officially been donated. They probably get pissed that people just leave there stuff but oh well.
I hope some of you guys show up at the "thing" tomorrow night, its at my modmates house and it should be fun. I'm getting drunk!!😀

AWESOME...
I am going to spend the whole summer playing with my kids til they're sick of me 😀

And tomorrow, I'm getting drunk TOO !!!!
Let's get ripped and sing Funky Cold Medina together and entertain the troops 😉

 

[Doctor Bagel]

So I have not studied at all yet. I went shopping to buy some diet coke (a total necessity 🙂 ) and some food for our food drive thing. Wal-Mart's having a sale on tuna. 👍

I'm lamely enough tempted to drive to school to get my answer sheet so I can grade my practical and know where I'm at. I guess I might not get any sleep tonight.

Dandajana -- I was wondering what was up with the tooth question. I thought for sure that stuff would not be on the test, which was stupid on my part.

 

[RachelD]

AWESOME...
I am going to spend the whole summer playing with my kids til they're sick of me 😀

And tomorrow, I'm getting drunk TOO !!!!
Let's get ripped and sing Funky Cold Medina together and entertain the troops 😉

Sounds like fun! I'm ready to let loose and shake a leg.

 

[RachelD]

So I have not studied at all yet. I went shopping to buy some diet coke (a total necessity 🙂 ) and some food for our food drive thing. Wal-Mart's having a sale on tuna. 👍

I'm lamely enough tempted to drive to school to get my answer sheet so I can grade my practical and know where I'm at. I guess I might not get any sleep tonight.

Dandajana -- I was wondering what was up with the tooth question. I thought for sure that stuff would not be on the test, which was stupid on my part.

I just spent 10 minutes looking at the pcm stuff. I now know what the CAGE scale is and I quit.....
Edit:
I quit studying, not drinking, I won't start that untill after the exam. 🙂

 

[Smitty3L]

You guys mentioned your study times. Is that time you spend studying when class is over, or the amount of time you spend studying/going to class.

I also only went to required classes. When I said 4 hrs/day would have been ideal for me (I did much less) that would be on top of going to anatomy lab, but nothing else. Homeschooling is way more efficient if you are short on time, however some people feel the need to go to class or wouldn't spend the time studying otherwise, so it keeps them on their toes.

Also, in the summer before I start school, I plan to travel in Central America and Europe a bit. This should leave some time for reading. Would it be helpful to get a head start and begin reading one of the text books for Embryology or something? I know it may be a bit gunnerish, but since I rarely, if ever, read the text books in undergrad, I am worried that I may fall behind.

The classes do not follow the textbooks they recommend for the class. Generally there will be stuff covered in class not in the textbook and stuff in the textbook not covered in the class. I remember hearing this advice before I started and I thought it was crazy, but it really is the best thing to do: Relax and enjoy your summer! There isn't a whole lot that you can do to get ahead before the school year begins.

 

[JohnnyOU]

I just spent 10 minutes looking at the pcm stuff. I now know what the CAGE scale is and I quit.....
Edit:
I quit studying, not drinking, I won't start that untill after the exam. 🙂

gotta love this optimism
"Your patients are abusing alcohol whether you see it or not."

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Made a C on the practical, but that's good enough to keep my grade where it is. 🙂 I freaking hated lab and hated taking practicals. I think a surgery residency is not in my future.

 

[WhoisJohnGalt]

gotta love this optimism
"Your patients are abusing alcohol whether you see it or not."

This coming from the guy that just said he wants to get drunk enough to sing Funky Cold Medina? 😉 You have to understand that physicians tend to use the word "abuse" in a slightly different way than most people... you probably don't think getting trashed after test block is alcohol abuse, and your fellow classmates don't think so either, but we're supposed to consider it "abuse" in our patients. Similarly, if you've ever smoked a joint, you have a history of "drug abuse". It's kind of annoying. There IS a difference between use and abuse of substances, and calling every user an abuser downplays the real problem in those patients that ARE substance abusers.

Sorry, end soapbox 🙂

 

[Antigunner]

Frankly, I think it's a shame that there is so much alcohol abuse out there. It really seems like we should be doing more about it. I mean, couldn't we open some shelters for the alcohol so that it has a safe place to flee to if it's being abused? Poor alcohol...🙁

 

[soonereng]

I mean, couldn't we open some shelters for the alcohol so that it has a safe place to flee to if it's being abused?

Too funny.

 

[glp]

Made a C on the practical, but that's good enough to keep my grade where it is. 🙂 I freaking hated lab and hated taking practicals. I think a surgery residency is not in my future.

you are allowed to say 'A' instead of 'keep my grade where it is.' we won't label you a gunner.

i have read 15 pages of mosby's have learned nothing. im going to sleep now.

o'don is getting a decapitated horse's head in his bed for christmas. my treat.

 

[want2beadoc]

HAHAHAHAHA. I heard someone mention they wanted to find his office so they could pee on his door.

 

[want2beadoc]

I think there is a lot of projection going on. We all know head and neck was going to be hard, with or without O'don. For some reason I like the guy. I think he does care about us, just in an abusive father kind of way.

 

[RachelD]

I think there is a lot of projection going on. We all know head and neck was going to be hard, with or without O'don. For some reason I like the guy. I think he does care about us, just in an abusive father kind of way.

He is a good guy! I like him a lot. If the exam was that difficult I would have failed it. I guess I was just expecting something a little bit easier because he seemed to be giving us these "hints" about what to expect and it just was not what I expected. But, how do I know what to expect? My brain is so dead.............👎
I need a hot bath and a glass of wine..........😴

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I think there is a lot of projection going on. We all know head and neck was going to be hard, with or without O'don. For some reason I like the guy. I think he does care about us, just in an abusive father kind of way.

Well, the main thing is that it's just a bad situation. We had all adjusted to Chung and to his tests, and then we lost him in the hardest section of the course. Consequently, we wound up with this hard test that we all prepared wrongly for because we treated it like a Chung exam.

 

[Smitty3L]

I agree, just a hard situation. I don't think O'Don was out to get us or anything. He seems like a really nice guy. I think I've mentioned before that he was one of my interviewers and I really liked what he had to say then.

It's not like the questions were unfair. I heard someone remark today that they learned a relationship the way it was worded in Chung's book and it wasn't fair to ask that piece of information worded any other way. I think that is a little ridiculous, we are supposed to know the material, and then be able to answer questions on it, no matter what style. I don't think the test seemed that different from the first two, but I'm not overly obsessed about figuring out how to "beat the system". That is, after an exam I don't try to analyze which questions were asked and how they were worded. It seems like most people I know are always trying to figure out inside information, instead of just studying the stuff they need to know. Seems like the latter option is less work to me.

 

[Antigunner]

HAHAHAHAHA. I heard someone mention they wanted to find his office so they could pee on his door.

Good luck - I think he has offices in three or four different buildings

 

[RachelD]

I forgot to share what I heard from our exam review guy about Biochem. The average on the exam was an 86 and it does not look like we will get any points back. Leon said that he has already been told that grades are too high (what ever that means!) I guess you probably know who said that.

Oh, and one of the questions on the embryo exam was key'd wrong. It was the one about the most sensitive period (the 3-8 week thing) so most of us can add a point there.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I forgot to share what I heard from our exam review guy about Biochem. The average on the exam was an 86 and it does not look like we will get any points back. Leon said that he has already been told that grades are too high (what ever that means!) I guess you probably know who said that.

Oh, and one of the questions on the embryo exam was key'd wrong. It was the one about the most sensitive period (the 3-8 week thing) so most of us can add a point there.

I'm curious about the mini. The grades haven't been posted, and we haven't heard anything about any review. About the high grade thing, I wonder how much Leon's desire to appear like a good guy makes him allude to the evil Mr. Burns wanting to screw us.

So if anybody hasn't looked at Mosby yet, I think you can skip pages 1-50.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

Good luck - I think he has offices in three or four different buildings

I think with a little alcohol and a little more ambition, we have some folks who could get 'er done. j/k I think he's a good guy, but it did seem to me like he has been trying to make a statement over the last week. BTW, anybody catch the "meiosis?"

It's not like the questions were unfair. I heard someone remark today that they learned a relationship the way it was worded in Chung's book and it wasn't fair to ask that piece of information worded any other way. I think that is a little ridiculous, we are supposed to know the material, and then be able to answer questions on it, no matter what style. I don't think the test seemed that different from the first two, but I'm not overly obsessed about figuring out how to "beat the system". That is, after an exam I don't try to analyze which questions were asked and how they were worded. It seems like most people I know are always trying to figure out inside information, instead of just studying the stuff they need to know. Seems like the latter option is less work to me.

I definitely agree with you Smitty! BTW were you scowling at me today across the anatomy lab? Gees, I didn't irk ya, did I? I kind of assumed everybody recognized my playful admiration as mostly sarcasm.

Yeah, I was amazed last night that as I was going through BRS Q's, I was getting the answers correct without cheating. However this morning I found myself using my depressor anguli oris more frequently. On the other hand, I definitely felt like I should have known how to arrive at the right answers. I simply did not study enough of what I thought were unimportant nerves. A difference in Chung vs. O'Don? Palpable, but it came down to me simply not caring enough. I may just have to take back what I said about GA lecture exams failing to discriminate the top students.

I share your view regarding test-taking strategery. I'm trying to pace it out to focus on retention over the long term vs. the short. I was admitted with a relatively low GPA, yet my MCAT was respectable despite little preparation many years after clearing pre-req's. I'm hoping that I can extrapolate this philosophy to step 1. Prolly gonna have to find more ambition next year. 😳

 

[Smitty3L]

BTW were you scowling at me today across the anatomy lab? Gees, I didn't irk ya, did I? I kind of assumed everybody recognized my playful admiration as mostly sarcasm.

Ahh, I was definitely not scowling. I have been accused before of giving unintentional "dirty looks". Maybe I should get botox to paralyze my corrugator supercilli and procerus. Or maybe I was just scowling at the anatomy practical in general. And can I say, mostly sarcasm!? The women of the class of 2010 are disappointed.🙄

 

[Wizard of Oz]

Ahh, I was definitely not scowling. I have been accused before of giving unintentional "dirty looks". Maybe I should get botox to paralyze my corrugator supercilli and procerus. Or maybe I was just scowling at the anatomy practical in general. And can I say, mostly sarcasm!? The women of the class of 2010 are disappointed.🙄

Well, sarcasm in the sense that my propositions are not genuine lest I be obliterated like an umbilical artery by RachelD's spouse. I know not of yours nor exlaw's, but they are lucky dudes too. However it's not to say that my flattery and words of adoration are not deeply felt. And if you don't believe me, I would be more than happy to assimilate a nice poem for you available for reading by all patrons of our campus. 😉 Naw I prolly don't have the marbles to actually put somebody's name in a discussion board poem. I wrote a haiku in jest for one of my module mates and sent it to six people at once several weeks ago. It went over like a fart in a space suit.

 

[JohnnyOU]

blah

 

[JohnnyOU]

sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
you necesito la ceista.