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Ten years ago, Korn played a very small, free-for-patrons venue at CBGBs.

THEY WERE

RAW. SOLID.

ROCKED OUT WITH THEIR COCKS OUT.

This video portrays

THE BEST KORN MUSIC EVER.

DAVID SILVERIA on drums!!!

I WISH HE WAS STILL WITH THE BAND.

Enjoy this

EPIC

scene...playing

HERE TO STAY.

AWESOMENESS MAN.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5WDjSkF0l4[/YOUTUBE]
 
They were at Rock on the Range a couple weeks back. Sick 3 day show.

They still kill it... especially now that Brian Welch has officialy rejoined the band after 7 long years. :horns:
 
1995ish-2005ish might've been the worst decade in modern music history. Korn? Limp biscuit? Creed? Nickelback? Boy bands? Christina Aguilera and Brit Spears? Oasis? (Believe me, no matter what you think, they sucked.

Gawd awful music era.
 
Pooh & Annie said:
1995ish-2005ish might've been the worst decade in modern music history. Korn? Limp biscuit? Creed? Nickelback? Boy bands? Christina Aguilera and Brit Spears? Oasis? (Believe me, no matter what you think, they sucked.

Gawd awful music era.
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At least one of those groups is artistically and creatively talented, however. And it's not Nickelback.
 
Old Metallica (i.e. pre-black album) was the tits. Anthrax, Slayer, Megadeth. All those bull**** "nu-metal" bands were so untalented in comparison.
 
soorg said:
Old Metallica (i.e. pre-black album) was the tits. Anthrax, Slayer, Megadeth. All those bull**** "nu-metal" bands were so untalented in comparison.
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Agreed. Pantera was a close second in my book. And Dimebag was by far the best of the bunch.
 
Pooh & Annie said:
1995ish-2005ish might've been the worst decade in modern music history. Korn? Limp biscuit? Creed? Nickelback? Boy bands? Christina Aguilera and Brit Spears? Oasis? (Believe me, no matter what you think, they sucked.

Gawd awful music era.
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I agree with your philosophy.

But you missed the

DIAMONDS IN THE RUFF.

One of those diamonds was

KORN.

Go back and

LISTEN

to that video I uploaded of Korn at CBGB's.

Seriously.

Listen.

THAT'S F U KKING

RAW

MUSIC

man.

Beautifully orchestrated.

With an

ENSCONCED

crowd.
 
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They ARE super high-energy, and have their own sound. I can totally respect that. Originality is rare nowadays. That was always why I detested Oasis (not that they or anyone else does or should care). Aside from the fact that they were *****holes they didn't do anything new. Fortunately for a lot of "artists" that's not a pre-rec for being popular and getting rich.
 
jetproppilot said:
I agree with your philosophy.

But you missed the

DIAMONDS IN THE RUFF.

One of those diamonds was

KORN.

Go back and

LISTEN

to that video I uploaded of Korn at CBGB's.

Seriously.

Listen.

THAT'S F U KKING

RAW

MUSIC

man.

Beautifully orchestrated.

With an

ENSCONCED

crowd.
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That is intense!
But why do their songs have that "clicking" rhythm sound in the background? I don't know if its the drummer, but if it is it doesn't add anything and just has kind of a weak sound.
 
Pretty sure that what you are referring to is a sound generated by the bassist Fieldy.

Fieldy detunes the bass way down so the strings are slack, cranks the highs and lows and drops out the mids with his eq then slaps the $hit out of the strings to get that signature KoЯn thwacky. muddled bass sound.

If we are talking about the same thing, you can really hear it on the intro to "Got the Life" from the same show at CBGBs

[YOUTUBE]9cGVhow50Ro[/YOUTUBE]

Lots of folks diss Fieldy for covering up poor playing ability with this gimmicky technique and lots of folks like the sound. Either way, to my ear I think it really complements the the overall tonal structure of KoЯn's music and makes it signature KoЯn.

I have heard some double bass kicks that have a similar clack, but lack the metallic bite that you get from doing this with guitar strings. You can hear it in the intro to this tutorial from Derelict's Jordan Perry

[YOUTUBE]5xbvtI_Xyr8[/YOUTUBE]

Joey Jordison from Slipknot uses a similar technique and tuning.

I am pretty sure that David Silveria used a double bass kick setup in his kit, but he tunes it to a deeper, more resonant tone than you would need to get the clacky sound like you hear in Jordan Perry's video.


- pod
 
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I have a weakness for bands that are so unique that they have a signature sound, so much so that you can tell its one if their songs just a couple of bars in. Korn I can respect, and I even listened to them a bit, definitely in my sports warm up aggression days.

However my all time favorite, and who I think has the most signature sound ever is Rage Against the Machine. Even when De la Rocha left and they became Audioslave you can just tell its Morello going to town as soon as a song starts.
 
Pooh & Annie said:
1995ish-2005ish might've been the worst decade in modern music history. Korn? Limp biscuit? Creed? Nickelback? Boy bands? Christina Aguilera and Brit Spears? Oasis? (Believe me, no matter what you think, they sucked.

Gawd awful music era.
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Thank you, Voice of Reason.
 
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I think there should be a rule in life. Anytime somebody says this music sucks or that music sucks, they should be required to list one good band for each band they criticize so we can evaluate their opinion.

My mom thought most of my music stunk, but she listened to Johnny Mathis. So...

So, following my own rule. Queensrÿche and Black Crowes.

-pod
 
periopdoc said:
Pretty sure that what you are referring to is a sound generated by the bassist Fieldy.

Fieldy detunes the bass way down so the strings are slack, cranks the highs and lows and drops out the mids with his eq then slaps the $hit out of the strings to get that signature KoЯn thwacky. muddled bass sound.

If we are talking about the same thing, you can really hear it on the intro to "Got the Life" from the same show at CBGBs

[YOUTUBE]9cGVhow50Ro[/YOUTUBE]

Lots of folks diss Fieldy for covering up poor playing ability with this gimmicky technique and lots of folks like the sound. Either way, to my ear I think it really complements the the overall tonal structure of KoЯn's music and makes it signature KoЯn.

I have heard some double bass kicks that have a similar clack, but lack the metallic bite that you get from doing this with guitar strings. You can hear it in the intro to this tutorial from Derelict's Jordan Perry

[YOUTUBE]5xbvtI_Xyr8[/YOUTUBE]

Joey Jordison from Slipknot uses a similar technique and tuning.

I am pretty sure that David Silveria used a double bass kick setup in his kit, but he tunes it to a deeper, more resonant tone than you would need to get the clacky sound like you hear in Jordan Perry's video.


- pod
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Ahhh, that explains it. I figured it wasn't the drummer. And yeah the first time I noticed it was in Got The Life, which I kind of liked except for that sound. To me there it just has a weak tonality and takes away from the song. But it's different.
 
periopdoc said:
Pretty sure that what you are referring to is a sound generated by the bassist Fieldy.

Fieldy detunes the bass way down so the strings are slack, cranks the highs and lows and drops out the mids with his eq then slaps the $hit out of the strings to get that signature KoЯn thwacky. muddled bass sound.

If we are talking about the same thing, you can really hear it on the intro to "Got the Life" from the same show at CBGBs

[YOUTUBE]9cGVhow50Ro[/YOUTUBE]

Lots of folks diss Fieldy for covering up poor playing ability with this gimmicky technique and lots of folks like the sound. Either way, to my ear I think it really complements the the overall tonal structure of KoЯn's music and makes it signature KoЯn.

I have heard some double bass kicks that have a similar clack, but lack the metallic bite that you get from doing this with guitar strings. You can hear it in the intro to this tutorial from Derelict's Jordan Perry

[YOUTUBE]5xbvtI_Xyr8[/YOUTUBE]

Joey Jordison from Slipknot uses a similar technique and tuning.

I am pretty sure that David Silveria used a double bass kick setup in his kit, but he tunes it to a deeper, more resonant tone than you would need to get the clacky sound like you hear in Jordan Perry's video.


- pod
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Wow. That was an awesome explanation of the double-bass technique. I had actually always been told that one needed small feet or long-bard pedals to do that. Guess not. Great find.
 
Just stumbled late into this thread. From the thread title, I thought for sure it was going to be a reference to this unique Nebraska wedding:
bride-groom-smiling-corn-field.jpg

Old school corn really was the "best man."
 
Still prefer DISTURBED.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wboR83pUGWM[/YOUTUBE]
 
periopdoc said:
I think there should be a rule in life. Anytime somebody says this music sucks or that music sucks, they should be required to list one good band for each band they criticize so we can evaluate their opinion.

My mom thought most of my music stunk, but she listened to Johnny Mathis. So...

So, following my own rule. Queensrÿche and Black Crowes.

-pod
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I like that rule, dude!!

Actually like Queensryche. Their lyrics are kinda like listening to a story in a grand, medieval land.

Black Crows, they've got a few great songs, with

Remedy

topping my list.
 
Trisomy13 said:
Anyone going to Austin City Limits Festival in October? Good line-up this year.
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Yes! That's more like it.

Anyway, Korn is better than Nickelback and Maroon 5, but not great. Better than Creed, but not great.
That's just my opinion obviously, everyone has different tastes, but if you are in for something heavy, Old Metallica beats Korn hands down.
I liked Rage at one time.

Stuff I like these day on the radio (XM 35&36): Django Django, Spoon, Beach House, Chvrches, Pavement, Modest Mouse, Phoenix.
I change the station if I hear Muse, Blink 182, Daft Punk (or if Madison won't shut up).
 
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Arch Guillotti said:
I like the Black Crows. Every other band mentioned in this thread sucks!
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:laugh:

Goes to show how different we all are,

Easy E.

Reminds me why I like coming here. Interaction, conflict, agreement, disagreement, anger, happiness, elation, sadness....

HERD MENTALITY IS ONE DIMENSIONAL.

Boring.

Lacks inspiration.

SDN ANESTHESIA

LACKS

HERD MENTALITY.

👍
 
GypsySongman said:
I liked Rage at one time.
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Dude I'm also a huge

RAGE

fan.

I'm

drawn to musicians who emanate

PASSION

i.e. watch ZACH and Tom Morello (guitar) in this video... no...

don't just watch the video....

WATCH ZACH and TOM.

THATS PASSION MAN.

Combine passion with lyrical and musical ability,

this is what you get (which blows me away, to this day):


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njf578br-PU[/YOUTUBE]
 
I love Silent Lucidity, but otherwise I could never stand the lead singer's voice.

It's hard to pick out bands nowadays that I like overall cuz it's usually just one or two songs that I like. I like a lot of the new electronic stuff like skrillex, gramatika. MGMT is good. Never got into radiohead, which everyone seems to love. Don't hate em, just not a huge fan.

Old school I love Black Sabbath. Pantera, NWA & Cypress hill are alway on my workout tunes. Depeche Mode, ELO, Beatles, Floyd, Zeppelin, Nirvana, the Melvins. Otherwise I think I like a little bit from just about everyone. Not a modern country fan at all though. Johnny cash was awesome though.
 
Pooh & Annie said:
I love Silent Lucidity, but otherwise I could never stand the lead singer's voice.

It's hard to pick out bands nowadays that I like overall cuz it's usually just one or two songs that I like. I like a lot of the new electronic stuff like skrillex, gramatika. MGMT is good. Never got into radiohead, which everyone seems to love. Don't hate em, just not a huge fan.

Old school I love Black Sabbath. Pantera, NWA & Cypress hill are alway on my workout tunes. Depeche Mode, ELO, Beatles, Floyd, Zeppelin, Nirvana, the Melvins. Otherwise I think I like a little bit from just about everyone. Not a modern country fan at all though. Johnny cash was awesome though.
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Add in Van Halen (old), the Who, the Stones, U2 etc and you have what I prefer. I listen to an eclectic mix (classical music, Sinatra, a lot of 80's rock), but classic rock is always what I come back to. Like you, no country (exception for me is Johnny Cash's remake of NIN's Hurt. I think his version is pretty powerful (especially with the video). I like the Clash and their spinoff Big Audio Dynamite (underrated band IMO).
I am glad to see some discussion of more of the bands that I prefer. I tolerate some of the newer ones, but it is certainly not my preference. They are better than country music. 🙂
 
Gern Blansten said:
Add in Van Halen (old), the Who, the Stones, U2 etc and you have what I prefer. I listen to an eclectic mix (classical music, Sinatra, a lot of 80's rock), but classic rock is always what I come back to. Like you, no country (exception for me is Johnny Cash's remake of NIN's Hurt. I think his version is pretty powerful (especially with the video). I like the Clash and their spinoff Big Audio Dynamite (underrated band IMO).
I am glad to see some discussion of more of the bands that I prefer. I tolerate some of the newer ones, but it is certainly not my preference. They are better than country music. 🙂
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Old country is the best: Johnny Cash, Guy Clark, Waylon Jennings, Charlie Daniels Band, Willie Nelson, David Allan Coe, Jerry Jeff Walker, Hank Williams Jr., Townes Van Zandt.

Most stuff today doesn't compare but I like Brad Paidley, Robert Earl Keen, Kenny Chesney, Billy Currington, Darius Rucker.

A lot of country today is bad: Rascal Flatts, Keith Urban, Gretchen Wilson, Lady Antebellum, etc.
 
Gern Blansten said:
Add in Van Halen (old), the Who, the Stones, U2 etc and you have what I prefer. I listen to an eclectic mix (classical music, Sinatra, a lot of 80's rock), but classic rock is always what I come back to. Like you, no country (exception for me is Johnny Cash's remake of NIN's Hurt. I think his version is pretty powerful (especially with the video). I like the Clash and their spinoff Big Audio Dynamite (underrated band IMO).
I am glad to see some discussion of more of the bands that I prefer. I tolerate some of the newer ones, but it is certainly not my preference. They are better than country music. 🙂
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Yeah I've been a guitar player for about 20 years now, starting when I first got into zeppelin in high school. Before that I ONLY listened to rap. No question old Van Halen became my other favorite early on.

U2 I never got into. Nothing against them, just not a huge fan. Same with the chili peppers,
 
Pooh & Annie said:
Yeah I've been a guitar player for about 20 years now, starting when I first got into zeppelin in high school. Before that I ONLY listened to rap. No question old Van Halen became my other favorite early on.

U2 I never got into. Nothing against them, just not a huge fan. Same with the chili peppers,
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Yeah, I have never cared for the Chili Peppers. It is a sore subject that they got in the R&R HOF before Rush. But then, the R&R HOF is a joke anyway.
 
GypsySongman said:
Old country is the best: Johnny Cash, Guy Clark, Waylon Jennings, Charlie Daniels Band, Willie Nelson, David Allan Coe, Jerry Jeff Walker, Hank Williams Jr., Townes Van Zandt.

Most stuff today doesn't compare but I like Brad Paidley, Robert Earl Keen, Kenny Chesney, Billy Currington, Darius Rucker.

A lot of country today is bad: Rascal Flatts, Keith Urban, Gretchen Wilson, Lady Antebellum, etc.
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😴😴😴
 
No Soundgarden fans?

Even if you don't care for soundgarden you have to admit Chris Cornell has some chops.
 
I love music threads!

I have to echo the poster above (Winnie the Pooh?) that said that the late 90s were the worst time in the history of music. I agree. The radios were inundated with boy-bands, pseudo-latin artists, and pedestrian nu-metal. Most nu-metal blew, but some bands managed to write a few good songs; even Limp Bizkit (Break Stuff is catchy and fun!)

KoRn is pretty unique, which is true. They're basically the band that popularized detuned guitars, skillful drumming, no solos, and angsty, depraved lyrics. I enjoyed some of their stuff.

I also enjoy Disturbed, though I think that Dave Draiman messed up his voice since; I saw them live a few years ago and his voice was too "smooth" and not barky or screechy like it used to be. Still a wicked awesome group, and still good live.

But nothing beats the golden age of American metal. Slayer, Burton-era Metallica, and pre-Black album Megadeth. Some of the best, most entertaining and most musically skilled shows I've been to were from these three bands.

I wish I had the opportunity to see Pantera when Dime was alive.

The Chilis have one good album: Californication. For every other album, aside from a few songs here and there, the rest of their stuff is average. Stadium Arcadium was drivel. I'm With You has no hooks.

U2 blow. I love watching the Live-Aid concert in the 80s where Bono, for all his literal flag waving and humungous vocal prowess, was COMPLETELY UPSTAGED by the following act: Freddie Mercury and Queen.
 
Pooh & Annie is NOT named after Winnie the Pooh. Think Ali G.

Soundgarden WAS Chris Cornell, whose voice is second only to Ozzie in my book. Ha made that band great, and he's still great.

I totally agree with the metal stuff. I still like Metallica post-Burton, up to and including the black album. Yeah it got less thrash, but songs like sad but true and unforgiven were still really good. I know they lost a lot of credit for going mainstream, but I don't think it was intentional. I think they evolved. Post black album sucks.

Dime was the best metal guitarist EVER IMO. Amazing rhythm and THE best solos. The squeals and dives on "This Love" are beyond, not to mention "Respect" and "Cowboys From Hell". He put jokers like Kirk Hammett to shame.
 
Pooh & Annie said:
Dime was the best metal guitarist EVER IMO. Amazing rhythm and THE best solos. The squeals and dives on "This Love" are beyond, not to mention "Respect" and "Cowboys From Hell". He put jokers like Kirk Hammett to shame.
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I owned Pantera's first two albums back in the day. I am not talking about Cowboys From Hell. I am talking about Metal Magic and Projects in the Jungle. This was back when Darrell was known as "Diamond Darrell" and they were more of a "Glam Metal" band. They were probably more similar to bands like Ratt.
Most of their hardcore fans prefer to never speak of those albums. Besides that, they are almost impossible to find. I wish I could find them to hear it again. They were pretty small time and the overall production of the albums was pretty low rent. Even though the music at the time was very different from the later years, there was no questioning Darrell's guitar abilities, even on the early stuff. He was truly talented.
 
Gern Blansten said:
I owned Pantera's first two albums back in the day. I am not talking about Cowboys From Hell. I am talking about Metal Magic and Projects in the Jungle. This was back when Darrell was known as "Diamond Darrell" and they were more of a "Glam Metal" band. They were probably more similar to bands like Ratt.
Most of their hardcore fans prefer to never speak of those albums. Besides that, they are almost impossible to find. I wish I could find them to hear it again. They were pretty small time and the overall production of the albums was pretty low rent. Even though the music at the time was very different from the later years, there was no questioning Darrell's guitar abilities, even on the early stuff. He was truly talented.
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I've you tubed that stuff and the songs ARE pretty bad, but you can definitely see his skills. If you dig those up in decent shape they'd be worth some serious dough.

Did anyone see "A Band Called Death"? Don't let the name scare you, it's not what you think. It's a great documentary and really interesting story.
 
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