OMFS and Gen Surg Intern year

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Hey y'all,
Question for those that are in dual degree OMFS programs- what is your gen surg intern year like? Which rotations do you have during the year, and for how long are those rotations? Are you a full fledged member of the surgical team or a scut?
And if you don't mind, I would really appreciate saying which program you are referring to.
Thanks!
 
Hey y'all,
Question for those that are in dual degree OMFS programs- what is your gen surg intern year like? Which rotations do you have during the year, and for how long are those rotations? Are you a full fledged member of the surgical team or a scut?
And if you don't mind, I would really appreciate saying which program you are referring to.
Thanks!
The number of months you do on general surgery will range from program to program. Typically you will rotate on services like Trauma, Vascular, Surg Onc, Thoracic, Colorectal, Ped Surgery, Plastics, SICU, etc. It is an intern year, so yes, there is a lot of scut work since you function as a PGY1 General Surgery Resident, but that being said you are still a part go the "team". A lot of floor work and depending on the service, you will spend a fair amount of time in the OR too. It'll all just depend on the service, your chiefs and you institution in general.
 
We did 1-2 months of SICU, 1 month on OMS, 1 month vacation, then 8-9 on General Surgery service which was a mix of Acute Care Surgery / Plastics and Reconstructive Surgery (body mostly, transgender stuff was big, they didn't do much face stuff)/Colorectal/Vascular.
"full fledged member of the surgical team" means doing scut if you are a PGY-1. Rounding, discharges, admissions, floor work, the odd insurance stuff, communicating, etc. There would be the odd emergency on the floor we'd have to deal with, maybe transporting patients, etc. This is the life of a PGY-1, and maybe for the first 3-4 months, it was a worthwhile learning experience. After that, it started feeling like scut, but also it was also partly my attitude.

We would get to the OR almost once every other week: to do basic surgeries that the higher residents wouldn't want to be bothered with, and the attendings doing the cases needed a first assist to retract, do the same day surgery paperwork, prescriptions, etc: mostly ambulatory surgery like hernias, breast lumpectomies, other lumps and bumps, the odd appendectomy or cholecystectomy as a second assist and such. The categorical PYG-1s got to go in to some of the bigger cases, but frankly, they also tried a lot harder and deserved it much more than us. They would stay later, demonstrate more interest and such and they'd be mentored a little more by the older residents in General Surgery. We helped out as much as we could on the floor, and were never disrespected because they appreciated us, but everyone sort of understood that at 6PM, after sign-out the OMS/urology/ENT guys would be going home, and we liked it that way.

I don't think the General Surgery year is a year any of us should think too much about. You just sort of get through it and everyone will pick up different things. Probably what is more important is how LITTLE time you have to spend on General Surgery. Like I said, I think some months of it is important to learn the floor stuff, the hospital system, learn to write notes, communicate, deal with emergencies, have experience in an ICU, etc. But I think most will agree that 3-4 months is plenty.
 
1 month OMFS, 1 month NSGY, 1.5 months SICU, 0.5 months of nights cross cover, 2 months of VA (surg onc, colorectal), 1 month peds surgery, 5 months anesthesia (2 of which are peds), 0.5 months vacation sprinkled in. That was my general surgery year.

Took USMLE step 3 during this year as well.

We function as a PGY-1 during this time, having said that I did the following as primary surgeon (probably missing some): 5 lap appendectomies, 6 open inguinal hernias, 2 lap chole's, 5 central lines, 10+ arterial lines, 4 port access (chemo port for kids), 2 mastectomies, 10+ lipomas (one was huge), some random open neck biopsies, a couple perc trachs and PEGs, 4 AKA/BKA's and assisted on a lot more. You will find OMFS interns are typically the best general surgery interns because we know how to write notes, present pts, discharge, admit, round, do consults etc in a very time efficient manner which translated to getting into the OR more often.

I really enjoyed my general surgery time to be honest. It was really cool to interact with the general surgery residents and faculty and they're pretty bad ass. Really tough training and I respect their skill set. I am terrible at laparoscopic surgery though lol
 
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