OMG.. Nursing School is so STUPID

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First off: I dunno where to post this... so move it if you have to.

Where to start....
I don't like nursing, I have no desire to clean up poop or work in a nursing home that reeks of urine. We study something called "Nursing diagnosis"... WTF? That's an oxymoron, nurses by definition don't diagnose. So why am I wasting my time with some fluffed up diagnosis crap? Ya I get it, PT's laying in bed all day will get bed sores.. I am not even going to get started about my incompetent instructors.

My goal was to be a NP. I figured it was the next best thing to being an MD. I read online about the NP's being trained in the nursing model and PA's the medical, I really had no idea what that meant. Now I have a pretty good idea what that means and I don't like it. An NP is a nurse with an RX pad. That being said, my primary care physician is a NP. I was told by one of my nursing school instructors that the difference between NP's and PA's was.. "NP's function as physicians and PA's are the Doctors bitch".

So this nursing school joke has renewed my interest in being a PA. Why not MD/DO? Well I am old(34.5) and I have a checkered history with college. I have some random credits, some good some bad, and no degree. Plus I really hate the idea of working much more than 40 hours a week. I need time for me, outside of the hospital. I read that there is finally a PA to DO bridge. So if the bug ever bit me really hard, that could be an option.


So now what? I really want to quit this nursing school, like now. I need to take some pre-reqs before thinking about PA school. I may even need a bachelors first. But I need to work... I was looking at a surg tech program. It's seems to pay decently enough. I am not too sure how working and taking classes would work. Would like to do something medical.

My background is in military helicopter maintenance. I don't want to do that for a living on the civilian side, plus I would have to go to school to be able to do it.

So if your still with me... please give some advice, even if it's just to tell me to eff off.

Thanks

EDIT: I know the thread title is childish, it's how people act/talk at my school lol

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Heh.. Nurses function as physicians..🙄

 

[StudyShy]

Nurses wipe butts.

 

[Mbeas]

First off: I dunno where to post this... so move it if you have to.

Where to start....
I don't like nurses, I have no desire to clean up poop or work in a nursing home that reeks of urine. We study something called "Nursing diagnosis"... WTF? That's an oxymoron, nurses by definition don't diagnose. So why am I wasting my time with some fluffed up diagnosis crap? Ya I get it, PT's laying in bed all day will get bed sores.. I am not even going to get started about my incompetent instructors.

I promise you that is not all nurses do. Plus, it is usually the PCT's and (maybe) LPN's that get stuck with these jobs, depending on where you work.

As for the surg tech program, I wouldn't do it in your situation, unless you are considering using your certification for a couple of years. It's good for clinical experience, but it is a one year program so it is a bit of an investment.

Edit: Just noticed you are an LPN student. How were you planning on being an NP? Do you have a Bachelor's degree?

 

[RogueUnicorn]

drop the eff out asap. i know exactly what you mean, and i know it feels like you've sunk a lot of costs into it, but really, it's not going to work out. cut your losses and become a PA.

 

[TheMightySmiter]

Whether or not you do med school, quit nursing school immediately. Attitudes like yours taint the profession. You have no idea how many incredible nurses are out there--some of whom easily know more than the docs.

 

[StudyShy]

Nurses diagnose the obvious or have to be evasive in order for the diagnosis not to be a medical one. Nursing diagnoses are like the longest diagnoses ever. They are very stupid.

 

[pancakesyrup]

My goal was to be a NP. I figured it was the next best thing to being an MD. I read online about the NP's being trained in the nursing model and PA's the medical, I really had no idea what that meant. Now I have a pretty good idea what that means and I don't like it. An NP is a nurse with an RX pad. That being said, my primary care physician is a NP.

Thanks

A nurse practitioner is NOT a physician.

I was told by one of my nursing school instructors that the difference between NP's and PA's was.. "NP's function as physicians and PA's are the Doctors bitch".

Sounds like they teach you to hate doctors.

 

[pancakesyrup]

Whether or not you do med school, quit nursing school immediately. Attitudes like yours taint the profession. You have no idea how many incredible nurses are out there--some of whom easily know more than the docs.

🙄

 

[TheMightySmiter]

🙄

If you think I'm exaggerating, you don't know many nurses.

 

[Mbeas]

🙄

Yea, it's actually true. The new residents (who are docs, btw) can learn a lot from nurses. I'm guessing you are one of the people who thinks doctors are a superior life form that know everything?

 

[ashedd]

Edit: Just noticed you are an LPN student. How were you planning on being an NP? Do you have a Bachelor's degree?

I would continue with school while working. LPN-RN-NP, the one good thing is you can work while doing this.

 

[patel2]

Whether or not you do med school, quit nursing school immediately. Attitudes like yours taint the profession. You have no idea how many incredible nurses are out there--some of whom easily know more than the docs.

--->all-nurses.org

 

[FattySlug]

If you think I'm exaggerating, you don't know many nurses.

Isn't it only true when you compare good nurse vs. bad or inexperienced docs? I have a hard time imagine any good, competent doc knows less than good nurses.

 

[ashedd]

A nurse practitioner is NOT a physician.


Sounds like they teach you to hate doctors.

Primary Care Provider is what I should have said, lol

The nurse that said that to me is a CNS. They do preach about how the nurse is the one who takes care of the PT and that the MD has very little contact with the pt.

 

[ashedd]

Yea, it's actually true. The new residents (who are docs, btw) can learn a lot from nurses. I'm guessing you are one of the people who thinks doctors are a superior life form that know everything?

It's just an assumption, but I bet new residents are terrified of pt's and the nurses help them with pt contact. But I dunno 😕

 

[TheMightySmiter]

--->all-nurses.org

If you're trying to direct me to a nursing forum, I'm not a nurse. Also you got the URL wrong.

Isn't it only true when you compare good nurse vs. bad or inexperienced docs? I have a hard time imagine any good, competent doc knows less than good nurses.

I know a cardiovascular nurse educator whose knowledge could compete with even that of experienced docs. I'm not saying it's common, but it certainly happens. Work 30-40 years in the same nursing specialty and you're bound to know an insane amount about your field.

 

[911 Turbo]

If you're trying to direct me to a nursing forum, I'm not a nurse. Also you got the URL wrong.



I know a cardiovascular nurse educator whose knowledge could compete with even that of experienced docs. I'm not saying it's common, but it certainly happens. Work 30-40 years in the same nursing specialty and you're bound to know an insane amount about your field.

But that's limited knowledge right? I'm sure doctors have more responsibilities than nurses overall.

 

[Doctor246853]

If you think I'm exaggerating, you don't know many nurses.

He beat me to the "🙄" and I know many nurses. You must don't know many doctors.

 

[TheMightySmiter]

But that's limited knowledge right? I'm sure doctors have more responsibilities than nurses overall.

Yes, the physicians definitely have more responsibility. And nursing knowledge tends to be more specialized. Still, as I said, I have met nurses who know as much as experienced docs and more than younger docs in their field. So all I'm saying is, don't knock nurses or nursing as a profession, because the day may come when a nurse makes you feel like an idiot by knowing more than you do. So much clinical knowledge comes from clinical experience rather than school.

 

[Doctor246853]

Isn't it only true when you compare good nurse vs. bad or inexperienced docs? I have a hard time imagine any good, competent doc knows less than good nurses.

zing!😀

 

[TheMightySmiter]

He beat me to the "🙄" and I know many nurses. You must don't know many doctors.

I must do know many docs. 😀

 

[Perrotfish]

We study something called "Nursing diagnosis"... WTF? That's an oxymoron, nurses by definition don't diagnose. So why am I wasting my time with some fluffed up diagnosis crap? Ya I get it, PT's laying in bed all day will get bed sores.. I am not even going to get started about my incompetent instructors.

If all you can understand about a patient is how to wipe their ass then honestly there is no need to hire you as an RN when the hospital could get an LPN for a third of the price. A nurses job IS to understand, albeit at a lower level than the physician, the complexities of comorbid conditions, possible drug interactions, etc. They're paid more precisely because they have the knowledge to understand when a physician/pharmacy/whatever needs to be called and when the patient just needs rest and their PRN tylenol.

I was told by one of my nursing school instructors that the difference between NP's and PA's was.. "NP's function as physicians and PA's are the Doctors bitch".

She's sort of right. Though their training is similar in length and scope, NPs tend to have better representation in negotations with the hospital and therefore are more independent of physician supervision. It's very rare that a physician has direct control over a nurse or NPs career: generally they report to a seperate nursing chain of command that physicians can only file complaints with. Meanwhile PAs are much more at the mercy of the physicians who are often their direct supervisors.

Also most PA programs have stuck with the rule that you need to have several years of clinical experience to apply, while there are many NP programs that no longer require clinical experience. If your problem with
medical school is that you're too old to be a physician then PA school probably isnt a better option.

So this nursing school joke has renewed my interest in being a PA. Why not MD/DO? Well I am old(34.5) and I have a checkered history with college. I have some random credits, some good some bad, and no degree. Plus I really hate the idea of working much more than 40 hours a week. I need time for me, outside of the hospital. I read that there is finally a PA to DO bridge.

Finally there's this. No offense, but you come off as REALLY condescending towards an entire highly educated healthcare profession for someone who has never worked in a hospital or graduated from a school of any kind. You're talking about the top tiers of healthcare as if you had some sort of right them ('this sort of sucks, maybe I'll be a PA instead, or a physician except that's a lot of time, etc') while in the same breath explaining that you refuse to work more than bankers hours and haven't managed to graduate college by your mid 30s? Are you really being honest with yourself when you say you're going to drop out because nursing isn't good enough for you? Could you, possibly, instead be dropping out because nursing is hard, and the classes suck because they're hard? Don't delude yourself into thinking that quitting nursing school in your mid 30s is your first step towards being a PA or a physician, its not. Why not finish what you started, work in nursing for a year or two and THEN you can start looking at climbing healthcare's corporate/educational ladder?

 

[rHinO1]

Whether or not you do med school, quit nursing school immediately. Attitudes like yours taint the profession. You have no idea how many incredible nurses are out there--some of whom easily know more than the docs.

I'm not someone who bashes nurses or belittles the profession, but that statement is only true in a VARY limited number of examples. I've worked in healthcare for more than five years, with both doctors and nurses, and everyone has their own unique role in patient care. However, doctors are trained to diagnose, they are experts in their fields, and are ultimately responsible for the patient. When a nurse doesn't know what to do, they ask a doctor.

Try not to compare a resident, who is still a student, to a nurse to prove your point. The comparison is unfair and doesn't really prove anything.

 

[Doctor246853]

I'm not someone who bashes nurses or belittles the profession, but that statement is only true in a VARY limited number of examples. I've worked in healthcare for more than five years, with both doctors and nurses, and everyone has their own unique role in patient care. However, doctors are trained to diagnose, they are experts in their fields, and are ultimately responsible for the patient. When a nurse doesn't know what to do, they ask a doctor.

Try not to compare a resident, who is still a student, to a nurse to prove your point. The comparison is unfair and doesn't really prove anything.

👍 Mightysmither, if you worked as a cna for as long as you say then you should know better. Sure their are some supper sharp nurses, but they are very rare. The patient techs know more than most nurses since they do all the work. I took orders from nurses many times knowing DAM WELL they are wrong. But hey, a tech is just a tech.🙄

 

[TheMightySmiter]

👍 Mightysmither, if you worked as a cna for as long as you say then you should know better. Sure their are some supper sharp nurses, but they are very rare. The patient techs know more than most nurses since they do all the work. I took orders from nurses many times knowing DAM WELL they are wrong. But hey, a tech is just a tech.🙄

Well, maybe I just work with really great nurses. I've definitely come across some highly incompetent nurses. The majority are good, and, yes, it is rare to have truly incredible nurses who actually know as much as the docs in their field. But it does happen, and I personally know some of them. Like I said, an in-class education can only take you so far. But clinical experience can teach you a whole heck of a lot. Especially after three or four decades. That's how you can get such knowledgeable nurses.

Anyway, I don't want to harp on it, OP's statements just got me a little irritated.

 

[bucks2010]

But that's limited knowledge right? I'm sure doctors have more responsibilities than nurses overall.

sorry to make an example of you, but in these threads you can definitely tell who has actually worked in healthcare and who has minimal to no experience.

anyhow, to the OP - it sounds to me like your biggest problem is your attitude. OK -- your instructors called something "nursing diagnosis." ... is that really worth giving up a career over? if instances like this are that upsetting to you, then you should probably consider something outside of healthcare entirely.

there is such a variety of different paths that RNs can take in their careers that it's astonishing. if you are envisioning yourself doing med-surg floor nursing for 30 years I think you may be excluding some of the possibilities that RN's have. I think you will find that a wide variety of clinical and administrative roles with varying levels of responsibility can be found. One of the CT attendings I shadowed had a NP that followed him & first-assisted all day. You could argue that she "only got to retract" or drive the camera, but she got paid very well to do so.

oh yes, re: the butt wiping, if that is what the nurses at your place do... that sucks. the aides at my place all do that.

 

[Perrotfish]

👍 Mightysmither, if you worked as a cna for as long as you say then you should know better. Sure their are some supper sharp nurses, but they are very rare. The patient techs know more than most nurses since they do all the work. I took orders from nurses many times knowing DAM WELL they are wrong. But hey, a tech is just a tech.🙄

Oh the dick measuring contest that is healthcare. I have never met an EMT, Tech, respiratory therapist, nurse, nutritionist, CRNA, NP, PT, OT, or physician that was not full of stories of how stupid every other profession in the f-ing hospital is. Physicians, of course, also like to break it down by TYPE of physician, which means going after docs who did different residencies.

Anyway my personal experience is that there are some nurses that seem to be much more up on their profession that a good chunk of physicians. They tend to cluster in certain areas of the hospital: no nurse studies their ass off to work in an outpatient Peds clinic, the hard working ones eventually find their way to ERs and ICUs (or, best of all, th nurse 'high acuity' pseudo ICU beds IN the ER).

 

[bucks2010]

Oh the dick measuring contest that is healthcare.

This. Though fortunately I have yet to come across someone so brazen as to verbalize some of the ignorance in this thread.

 

[Perrotfish]

This. Though fortunately I have yet to come across someone so brazen as to verbalize some of the ignorance in this thread.

The tradition is to do it exclusively behind closed doors with a cluster of people from your own profession. It's actually an enormous pain in the ass on clinicals, because with every new core you're part of a new profession and have to adjust your respect for all the other physicians in the hospital accordingly. If anyone ever went directly from a Surgery rotation to an Anesthesiology rotation I think the mental whiplash might actually kill them.

 

[FattySlug]

The tradition is to do it exclusively behind closed doors with a cluster of people from your own profession. It's actually an enormous pain in the ass on clinicals, because with every new core you're part of a new profession and have to adjust your respect for all the other physicians in the hospital accordingly. If anyone ever went directly from a Surgery rotation to an Anesthesiology rotation I think the mental whiplash might actually kill them.

Did you really have to do that? Can a guy just shut up do his work and smile at everyone? Also, If you can, please elaborate on the Surgery vs Anesthesiology battle.

 

[ashedd]

Thanks for the replies so far..

I know how I come across, I'm not much better in person 😱

I am very aware of my advanced age and lack of formal education., it keeps me up at night. But lets keep in mind that I spent a chunk of my life in the military. Before that I spent 5 years as a drug addict. So I am a late bloomer as they say. Good thing is I don't look my age 😀 and I don't do drugs, barely drink. On top of all that, I have ADD.

I can wrap my head around finishing school and working in a nursing home while continuing my education(weather PA or NP). I just simply need to find a different school, since this one is not for me. But I am also thinking of ways to get away from this school and into a job. Surg tech, physical therapy tech, pharm tech.. something medical related. I know that most PA programs require clinical experience, so if I could get pt contact that would be great. Originally I wanted to be an X-ray tech but the only local school is very competitive.

And I don't hate nurses. I have two RN's in my family, ER supervisor and NICU.

Maybe I need to dose myself with more SSRI's and get it over with.

 

[RNwantDO]

Consider CRNA or Psych-NP, before making your mind up. Either of these might meet what you seek. It will be significantly easier to achieve NP than PA, but it will probably take you more time. From your OP you do not sound that dedicated to school. Switching to the medical model, will require a significant amount of dedication to scholarly learning. Overall, once you get your RN license it is fairly easy to complete NP school. The one issue you will have, is that you will have to get a DNP unless you go CRNA.

 

[Mbeas]

Of course doctors don't know everything, but their education and training is a heck of a lot more intense and rigorous than what nurses learn.

Of course it is...

However, while a physician serves a supervisory role at times, I also believe that the nurse-physician relationship is a mutual one and that in many circumstances, each party can benefit. As a physician, you are a student long after residency, and I beleive a lot can be learned from nurses in regards to patient care.

 

[Mbeas]

Thanks for the replies so far..

I know how I come across, I'm not much better in person 😱

I am very aware of my advanced age and lack of formal education., it keeps me up at night. But lets keep in mind that I spent a chuck of my life in the military. Before that I spent 5 years as a drug addict. So I am a late bloomer as they say. Good thing is I don't look my age 😀 and I don't do drugs, barely drink. On top of all that, I have ADD.

I can wrap my head around finishing school and working in a nursing home while continuing my education(weather PA or NP). I just simply need to find a different school, since this one is not for me. But I am also thinking of ways to get away from this school and into a job. Surg tech, physical therapy tech, pharm tech.. something medical related. I know that most PA programs require clinical experience, so if I could get pt contact that would be great. Originally I wanted to be an X-ray tech but the only local school is very competitive.

And I don't hate nurses. I have two RN's in my family, ER supervisor and NICU.

Maybe I need to dose myself with more SSRI's and get it over with.

As I mentioned before, this may not be your best avenue. A certificate in Surgical Technology is a one year endeavor, and if you are just looking for clinical experience, there are other jobs you may want to consider. Pharmacy tech is a good idea based on a much shorter training period, however you will not get much patient contact. Do you have any interest in Emergency Medical Services? How about becoming a CNA?

I know these are menial tasks, but they offer great clinical experience and little training. You can easily accomplish these tasks while attending a full academic semester pursuing your ultimate goal.

 

[colberag]

Comparing doctors and comparing nurses does not make any sense. They are two different professions with two different sets of ideologies and doctrines that both work under a larger umbrella. They do not have similar responsibilities or liabilities. Sure they both work with patients, but they are trained to view things in very different ways. A nurse might have a lot of hospital experience, knows how the system works, and is good at picking up on things from a nursing perspective, but there is reason why doctors go to 4 + 3 years of school or more.

Being a doctor and being a nurse are two different paths to achieving the same ultimate goal - the health and well-being for patients. It should not matter who is smarter than who or who knows more than who as long as this is a common goal.

P.S I am an RN who worked at a teaching hospital so I have seen the whole range of people in their varying stages of education and career. Ultimately, experience is the best educator anyway.

 

[generator]

op, if you hate something... don't bother with it. its that simple.

 

[StudyShy]

Consider CRNA or Psych-NP, before making your mind up. Either of these might meet what you seek. It will be significantly easier to achieve NP than PA, but it will probably take you more time. From your OP you do not sound that dedicated to school. Switching to the medical model, will require a significant amount of dedication to scholarly learning. Overall, once you get your RN license it is fairly easy to complete NP school. The one issue you will have, is that you will have to get a DNP unless you go CRNA.

It would still take forever to do a CRNA, at least in my area since she will have to have experience in critical care before applying. For instances 2 years ICU and 2 years or ER.

DNP blows and I don't know why anyone would want to waste their money learning 4-5 years of Roy, Neuman, and Orem...yuck.

 

[ashedd]

As I mentioned before, this may not be your best avenue. A certificate in Surgical Technology is a one year endeavor, and if you are just looking for clinical experience, there are other jobs you may want to consider. Pharmacy tech is a good idea based on a much shorter training period, however you will not get much patient contact. Do you have any interest in Emergency Medical Services? How about becoming a CNA?

I know these are menial tasks, but they offer great clinical experience and little training. You can easily accomplish these tasks while attending a full academic semester pursuing your ultimate goal.

EMS- I would have to see what kind of job openings there are around here. I read it's bad. CNA- 😱, dunno bout that. I do have some military related back problems so I'm not sure I can lift people all shift. From my clinical rotations in nursing homes I know that it's a lot of back breaking work. Probably would cause a problem with surg tech too, with all the standing. Plus I would have to cath myself, I pee pretty often.

I know for the short term I can deliver meds to nursing homes. I have already checked into that. I am thinking of something in the 15+ dollar an hour area.

 

[IHOPness]

You know, OP, that as a doctor you will still have to work with a lot of "stupid" nurses. Maybe the healthcare field is not for you. Patients need provides with patience toward the dumber members of society.

 

[ashedd]

It would still take forever to do a CRNA, at least in my area since she will have to have experience in critical care before applying. For instances 2 years ICU and 2 years or ER.

DNP blows and I don't know why anyone would want to waste their money learning 4-5 years of Roy, Neuman, and Orem...yuck.

I'm a he 😍
I have been told that the DNP thing will not happen. It would discourage too many people from becoming a NP.

 

[Mbeas]

EMS- I would have to see what kind of job openings there are around here. I read it's bad. CNA- 😱, dunno bout that. I do have some military related back problems so I'm not sure I can lift people all shift. From my clinical rotations in nursing homes I know that it's a lot of back breaking work. Probably would cause a problem with surg tech too, with all the standing. Plus I would have to cath myself, I pee pretty often.

I know for the short term I can deliver meds to nursing homes. I have already checked into that. I am thinking of something in the 15+ dollar an hour area.

What kinda stories do you hear? It's not ideal, but like I said, it is quick training (for an EMT-B, anyways) and it gives great clinical experience. However, you are right about job openings. Being an EMT-B gives you a very limited scope of practice and basically limits you to medical transport or volunteering. Some lucky people get jobs as ER techs, but in my area, most people are looking for ALS personnel.

How about a unit secretary at a hospital? Again, not a lot of training and some (limited) patient care. What about becoming a phlebotomist? Good patient experience with a short training program to obtain a certificate.

 

[Mbeas]

I'm a he 😍
I have been told that the DNP thing will not happen. It would discourage too many people from becoming a NP.

Pretty sure she is married with kids, bud...

 

[bucks2010]

EMS- I would have to see what kind of job openings there are around here. I read it's bad. CNA- 😱, dunno bout that. I do have some military related back problems so I'm not sure I can lift people all shift. From my clinical rotations in nursing homes I know that it's a lot of back breaking work. Probably would cause a problem with surg tech too, with all the standing. Plus I would have to cath myself, I pee pretty often.

I know for the short term I can deliver meds to nursing homes. I have already checked into that. I am thinking of something in the 15+ dollar an hour area.

have you rotated through a hospital? depending on the unit you're on, the load can be much lighter (pts can do more for themselves). I would never wish nursing home work on anyone.

 

[StudyShy]

I'm a he 😍
I have been told that the DNP thing will not happen. It would discourage too many people from becoming a NP.

Yeah, I always thought that it wouldn't happen too. So far, though, they are really pushing for it.

I was in nurse-midwifery school for a semester. I had a similar experience. We had open book tests and group papers. My pathophysiology book was also the same one that I had in undergrad. I decided that I would become a physician instead. At least this way, I would actually learn what I need to know to take care of patients.

Sorry, dude. I didn't realize you are a "he." You can be in love with my avatar. 😉

 

[ashedd]

I just recently read that there are EMT's in the er, I had no idea. Next your gonna tell me they have cna's in there too lol. Seriously, what does an emt do in the er? I have no idea how the er/ed works. I assume it's lots of blood and guts... which I would need some time to get use to.

 

[ashedd]

have you rotated through a hospital? depending on the unit you're on, the load can be much lighter (pts can do more for themselves). I would never wish nursing home work on anyone.

Nope, we(lpn's) only do nursing homes.... oh oh I'm sorry "skilled nursing facility".

It was my intent to get the LPN out of the way, get a job, do a bridge to RN, apply to NP school.. then wish I had went to med school

 

[ashedd]

Sorry, dude. I didn't realize you are a "he." You can be in love with my avatar. 😉

I'm a gay but that's a lovely outfit!

 

[Mbeas]

I just recently read that there are EMT's in the er, I had no idea. Next your gonna tell me they have cna's in there too lol. Seriously, what does an emt do in the er? I have no idea how the er/ed works. I assume it's lots of blood and guts... which I would need some time to get use to.

Depends on the level of EMT....

If you get your EMT-Intermediate or Paramedic (or equivalent level, based on your state), you work as an ER tech and basically hook patients up to monitors, start IV's, give (some) meds, etc. Some hospitals will view you as equivalent to an RN, but I've found this as pretty rare. As bad as it sounds, EMS personnel get the short end of the stick at the hospital.

If you are get your EMT-B, you don't do much. Put orders into the computer, transport patients, etc. And, like I said, it's much harder to land a job in the ER as and EMT-B because you basically have no skills that anyone else can do.

As for the blood and guts, it depends on where you work. If you work at a small community hospital, you probably won't see much trauma. For that, you would need to work in a large, level 1 trauma center, and they probably won't let you work there as a basic EMT. You would need ACLS training and other skills before they would consider you.

 

[Mbeas]

Nope, we(lpn's) only do nursing homes.... oh oh I'm sorry "skilled nursing facility".

It was my intent to get the LPN out of the way, get a job, do a bridge to RN, apply to NP school.. then wish I had went to med school

Why not just get your RN in the first place?

I'm beginning to feel like this is a troll thread. Please tell me I'm wrong.