OMM and Social Distancing?

[Kardio]

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I’ll be starting M1 in the summer and am starting to wonder how schools will handle OMM courses in the era of social distancing.

I assume all of your courses, OMM included, are being delivered online right now. Will OMM stay purely lecture based for an extended period of time — can it even be taught that way?

 

[Mimosas]

+1 wondering this, as well as anatomy lab

 

[Kr#36]

There is a lecture component but there will also be a physical component that you'll have to learn and pass. I imagine by the time you start late summer you'll be doing omm as normal.

 

[Chibucks15]

It will be super school dependent and I bet most of this will subside by the time you start anyway

 

[Alkaidius]

Didn’t you know that you can feel fascial tension fluctuations through the air up to 10ft away? You may not be able to do techniques, but diagnosing is still very possible. They usually start you off easy with palpation, but these uncertain times are calling for a more expedited curriculum.

 

[deleted966164]

Is there already talk about having Fall courses online????

 

[Yankauer]

Trust me, these freaks will do whatever it takes to proselytize their pseudoscience. I know of at least 3 institutions, as well as the AOA themselves, who have sent out extremely detailed "OMT treatment strategies" for COVID-19.

I'd refuse to do any of this crap as long as possible.

 

[Kardio]

There is a lecture component but there will also be a physical component that you'll have to learn and pass. I imagine by the time you start late summer you'll be doing omm as normal.

It will be super school dependent and I bet most of this will subside by the time you start anyway

Is there already talk about having Fall courses online????

The editor in chief at JAMA published a piece earlier last week proposing that all medical schools and students delay M1 for a year so that the students can do contact tracing. I don’t think something that dramatic will come to fruition, but I have doubts school will proceed exactly as normal.

Courses like OMM (and anything else that requires close contact or touching) seem especially likely to be reassessed.

 

[deleted966164]

The editor in chief at JAMA published a piece earlier last week proposing that all medical schools and students delay M1 for a year so that the students can do contact tracing. I don’t think something that dramatic will come to fruition, but I have doubts school will proceed exactly as normal.

Courses like OMM (and anything else that requires close contact or touching) seem especially likely to be reassessed.

Oh J.... C.... We're back to that S#%$t...

 

[V5RED]

Trust me, these freaks will do whatever it takes to proselytize their pseudoscience. I know of at least 3 institutions, as well as the AOA themselves, who have sent out extremely detailed "OMT treatment strategies" for COVID-19.

I'd refuse to do any of this crap as long as possible.

Not going to comment on validity, but there is actually CME credit available for OMM techniques intended to treat the symptoms of SARS2 aka COVID19. I will leave commenting on validity to people who are not incoming residents.

"Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine (OMM) Techniques Addressing Respiratory Symptoms of COVID-19"

Summary of Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine (OMM) Techniques Addressing Respiratory Symptoms of COVID-19

aoaonlinelearning.osteopathic.org

 

[Yankauer]

Not going to comment on validity, but there is actually CME credit available for OMM techniques intended to treat the symptoms of SARS2 aka COVID19. I will leave commenting on validity to people who are not incoming residents.

"Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine (OMM) Techniques Addressing Respiratory Symptoms of COVID-19"

Summary of Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine (OMM) Techniques Addressing Respiratory Symptoms of COVID-19

aoaonlinelearning.osteopathic.org

At what point will you feel comfortable commenting on validity of interventions performed on patients? Isn't that a part of any student and physician's responsibility to their patients? Critically examining the literature before exposing vulnerable individuals to unnecessary and non-evidence-based care?

Personally, I think it is more inappropriate to hide behind the fact that you are an "incoming resident" and then directly follow with a link chock full of garbage that is not based on any scientific foundation.

 

[V5RED]

At what point will you feel comfortable commenting on validity of interventions performed on patients? Isn't that a part of any student and physician's responsibility to their patients? Critically examining the literature before exposing vulnerable individuals to unnecessary and non-evidence-based care?

Personally, I think it is more inappropriate to hide behind the fact that you are an "incoming resident" and then directly follow with a link chock full of garbage that is not based on any scientific foundation.

Did I endorse it? No. Did I say I would do it? No. I provided a link because otherwise the comment I quoted comes off as something that was made up.

 

[fldoctorgirl]

The editor in chief at JAMA published a piece earlier last week proposing that all medical schools and students delay M1 for a year so that the students can do contact tracing. I don’t think something that dramatic will come to fruition, but I have doubts school will proceed exactly as normal.

Courses like OMM (and anything else that requires close contact or touching) seem especially likely to be reassessed.

Yeah....no. That's not happening lol. I highly doubt you won't be able to start OMM lab come August.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Didn’t you know that you can feel fascial tension fluctuations through the air up to 10ft away? You may not be able to do techniques, but diagnosing is still very possible. They usually start you off easy with palpation, but these uncertain times are calling for a more expedited curriculum.

They call this technique the Third Eye of Still. Those who master it are given an FM/NMM residency of their choosing.

 

[Neopolymath]

You guys cannot palpate the CRI by looking at someone?

 

[Fat_Albert]

We’re learning how to do sacrum online and our practical is just another written exam. It’s pretty dumb (this situation and omm in general)

 

[Peach Newport]

They call this technique the Third Eye of Still. Those who master it are given an FM/NMM residency of their choosing.

Dude, you know damn well that that the AOA ruled that phrase is not to be uttered in a non-secure venue. Hell, half of us fought tooth and nail to prevent it from being used anywhere outside Kirksville, MO. Think of that damage that could be done should it fall into the wrong hands.

 

[EmilKraepelin55]

They call this technique the Third Eye of Still. Those who master it are given an FM/NMM residency of their choosing.

That would be a great name for a technique that I developed justthe other day: I can actually palpate the pineal gland through manipulation of the lambdoid suture and put people to sleep. Real talk.

 

[OneSummerPhoton]

For OMM, at NYIT we are learning through powerpoints and live zoom sessions atm. We have a weekly quiz to replace our usual OMM practical exams where we would be performing the OMM techniques. We've been told that we should be expecting to start 2nd year a week (maybe 2?) earlier to attend "intense" training sessions for what we are missing out for OMM and clinical skills lab.

 

[deleted480308]

Man, I wish social distancing cancelled all my omm labs in school

 

[KeikoTanaka]

They call this technique the Third Eye of Still. Those who master it are given an FM/NMM residency of their choosing.

That technique is beyond difficult. Even more difficult, and potentially more dangerous than the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique. Historically regarded by Pai Mei as the ultimate Kung Fu move, however, utilized by Bone Wizards to jump-start a dying heart. It requires forceful consecutive palpations of 5 sympathetic ganglia of the cardiac plexus to induce a cardiac contraction so powerful, a healthy person's heart would develop a ventricular aneurysm and explode. However, if used on someone in cardiac arrest, it can be just as effective as Epi.

 

[popopopop]

That technique is beyond difficult. Even more difficult, and potentially more dangerous than the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique. Historically regarded by Pai Mei as the ultimate Kung Fu move, however, utilized by Bone Wizards to jump-start a dying heart. It requires forceful consecutive palpations of 5 sympathetic ganglia of the cardiac plexus to induce a cardiac contraction so powerful, a healthy person's heart would develop a ventricular aneurysm and explode. However, if used on someone in cardiac arrest, it can be just as effective as Epi.

My username is the noise your heart makes before you die.

 

[KeikoTanaka]

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