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Just wondering If anyone knew about the mean age of the MDs who matched for Ophthalmo residency.
What do you think of the FMG matching?
What do you think of the FMG matching?
Good Mountain said:Just wondering If anyone knew about the mean age of the MDs who matched for Ophthalmo residency.
What do you think of the FMG matching?
KBerg21 said:What are my chances of matching in Ophthalmology?
Stats:
Step I: 215
Honors in Surgery, OB
2 Publications non-ophtho
1 Presentation at ARVO
Spitzko said:According to last year statistics only 33% of the FMGs that submitted a rank list
did match. But I guess many FMGs do not get a single interview and thus cannot submit a rank list.
So I think the chances to match for a FMG are quite low.
Good Mountain said:Just wondering If anyone knew about the mean age of the MDs who matched for Ophthalmo residency.
What do you think of the FMG matching?
John1975 said:I have attached the Ophtho match report from SF Match. Take a look.
fdsa said:The ophtho match report shows a 86% match rate for US grads. That's pretty darn good! I was always under the impression that ophthalmology was one of the most competetive specialties out there, but with it's match rate, it's not even close. For comparison, the emergency medicine match rate for 2005 was only 79%, not to mention derm (57%), surgery (84%), etc.
Why has ophthalmology gotten that reputation? Are the numbers wrong?!
fdsa said:The ophtho match report shows a 86% match rate for US grads. That's pretty darn good! I was always under the impression that ophthalmology was one of the most competetive specialties out there, but with it's match rate, it's not even close. For comparison, the emergency medicine match rate for 2005 was only 79%, not to mention derm (57%), surgery (84%), etc.
Why has ophthalmology gotten that reputation? Are the numbers wrong?!
I would be very interested to know where you got these numbers. I have never heard of EM only being 79% of US seniors. I think your numbers are total overall match success rates that include FMGs. There is a book on how to choose a medical specialty that tells match stats for each field. I would check that book out it is titled "The Ultimate Guide to Choosing a Medical Specialty." I am quite sure that its stats are correct. The US grad success rate is far higher than any of your numbers reflect. The book shows that the most difficult thing to match into is Integrated (ie straight out of med school) Plastic Surgery and its match rate is still 76%. Definitely don't think that ophtho is easy to get into, just because I don't want anyone to go unmatched. A specialty in which the average US med student board score is also the average unmatched board score is never a good sign that a specialty is easy to get into. I know a lot of med students with below average board scores who have done well in the EM match, I don't know any people with an average board score that have matched into ophtho. (I know they exist I just haven't met them)fdsa said:The ophtho match report shows a 86% match rate for US grads. That's pretty darn good! I was always under the impression that ophthalmology was one of the most competetive specialties out there, but with it's match rate, it's not even close. For comparison, the emergency medicine match rate for 2005 was only 79%, not to mention derm (57%), surgery (84%), etc.
Why has ophthalmology gotten that reputation? Are the numbers wrong?!
EM guys always think it's so hard to match into EM. But match rates for us seniors when I applied were well above 90%. Bottom line is who cares how many people match as long as you are one of them and you match in what you want to be doing.Ophtho24 said:I would be very interested to know where you got these numbers. I have never heard of EM only being 79% of US seniors. I think your numbers are total overall match success rates that include FMGs. There is a book on how to choose a medical specialty that tells match stats for each field. I would check that book out it is titled "The Ultimate Guide to Choosing a Medical Specialty." I am quite sure that its stats are correct. The US grad success rate is far higher than any of your numbers reflect. The book shows that the most difficult thing to match into is Integrated (ie straight out of med school) Plastic Surgery and its match rate is still 76%. Definitely don't think that ophtho is easy to get into, just because I don't want anyone to go unmatched. A specialty in which the average US med student board score is also the average unmatched board score is never a good sign that a specialty is easy to get into. I know a lot of med students with below average board scores who have done well in the EM match, I don't know any people with an average board score that have matched into ophtho. (I know they exist I just haven't met them)
fdsa said:The ophtho match report shows a 86% match rate for US grads. That's pretty darn good! I was always under the impression that ophthalmology was one of the most competetive specialties out there, but with it's match rate, it's not even close. For comparison, the emergency medicine match rate for 2005 was only 79%, not to mention derm (57%), surgery (84%), etc.
Why has ophthalmology gotten that reputation? Are the numbers wrong?!
Free Radicle said:I think the answer to this question is best stated by a quote by Mark Twain
"there are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics". If one looks at the match statistics page you will see that the match rate is based on those who were able to get interviews. To quote Frumps "I recieved interview offers at most of the ER programs I applied to (which I had to cancel), but I only recieved about 1-2 interview offers for about every ten ophtho applications." If you look at how many people registered to participate in the SF Match 824 vs those that matched then the match rate is 54%. Those that participated 742 (why the drop I do not know) then the match rate is 60%. Those that turned in rank lists 620 (this is low b/c ophtho does not give out interviews lightly - I got a 249 step 1 and only got 9 interviews total) then the match rate is 72%. But the stat that 88% of US seniors who applied still matched. I would say that is because those that apply are super students. The average board score of those that matched is 230!!!!!!. That is the top 8% of all med students. Thats why I think ophtho is very competitive.
My 2 cents
Well a friend of mine has matched in ophthalmology this year. Hi is an FMG.
Can you expand more on this? Interviews this year have not even begun yet. Did he pre-match (which is HIGHLY unlikely in ophtho)? Let us know.
Hi did one year of research in ophthalmology and then he matched. I sent him a mail to see how things where going but i guess he is to busy to respond right away.