Organic Chemistry

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Hey everybody, I'm doing ochem in the summer, and I just found out (other then the fact that i have a ******ed advisor) that your not required to finish one year of organic chemistry for dental school. To be exact, you need 4 semester hours of lecture, and another 2 semester hours of lab, or 6 quarter hours of lecture, and 3 quarter hours of lab. Did all of you guys do that? Or did you guys just follow the premed curriculum and finish the whole 15 quarter hour sequence or the 10 semester hours, etc.....im taking the last course in organic this quarter, and I realised now that I don't have to do it, and I really really would rather not do it....organic chemistry has made my life a living hell and i would like to end it tomorrow....please advise me what to do...

 

[JRogoff]

You might want to re-check the requirements at the schools you will be applying to because i think most schools require both I and II plus the lab. I know this is the case at all the schools i applied to and where i am going, Nova.

 

[JRogoff]

I also wanted to add that it is my expierence that advisors don't know jack! So check all the requirements yourself, its as simple as visiting the schools website.

 

[accidental]

Every school that I know of requires requires both semesters of O chem or 8 semester hours- there might be one or two that doesn't. I don't think your advisor knows what he/she is talking about- they usually don't have a clue. I know for optometry you only need one semester, but not dental. I have heard of some exceptions that the schools will make depending on the circumstances of the applicant but they do require both.

 

[aggie-master]

All of the schools that I plan to apply at require at least BIO 1 & 2, GEN. CHEM. 1 & 2, ORG. CHEM. 1 & 2, and PHYSICS 1 & 2, all with labs.

 

[rajmahal1980]

Hey,
I'm in a similar situation where I'm taking ochem this summer. I actually graduated from college two years ago with a double major and began working in finance. Is it necessary for me to wait until I finish all the classes to apply or do you think that I should send in my applications now?

I'm expecting a pretty high DAT score (hopefully 23 or 24) so do you think there is a chance they'll call me for an interview before I finish all the prerequisites?

 

[Dr.SpongeBobDDS]

I'm almost positive ALL dental schools require two semesters of Organic.

Raj, you can definitely apply before your pre-reqs are completed. In fact, a LOT of people do since it can be kinda tricky to have every requirement completed in just the two or three years of school before you apply.

 

[wimmcs]

Hey,
I'm in a similar situation where I'm taking ochem this summer. I actually graduated from college two years ago with a double major and began working in finance. Is it necessary for me to wait until I finish all the classes to apply or do you think that I should send in my applications now?

I'm expecting a pretty high DAT score (hopefully 23 or 24) so do you think there is a chance they'll call me for an interview before I finish all the prerequisites?

Absolutely you can apply w/o finishing the requirements. To the OP: I agree with all the posts indicating you most likely need both semesters of o-chem with labs. I know I read somewhere where one school takes biochem in lieu of the second semester organic, but don't remember which one it is.

 

[blankguy]

I also wanted to add that it is my expierence that advisors don't know jack! So check all the requirements yourself, its as simple as visiting the schools website.

Speak for yourself. I consulted my premed dean and he didn't flat out say take x number of credits per semester that some of you were saying but instead said take your time and do well in them, i.e. pace yourself. I could see why some of you might say that they are useless. Probably because they are not PERSONAL advisors but I realized 2 things, 1 they probably deal with a lot of premed/predents so they can't dwell on the specifics of each individual case and 2 there are not there to hold your hands and walk you through the predent/premed curricula, if anything they are just contact people for med schools and dental schools for the specific undergrad institution, and they are people too. They may give their share of off the mark advice(they are not going to know you perfectly) prone to make mistakes and have character weaknesses, some are good some are bad.


People on this board should desist from bashing deans and advisors too much. It sends a wrong message. If you don't like their advice consult other sources and if its wrong disregard it. 😡

Nothing against you JRogoff

 

[JRogoff]

Speak for yourself

I thought when i said that it is "my expierence" that i was speaking for myself?

 

[JRogoff]

. If you don't like their advice consult other sources and if its wrong disregard it.

This is exactly what i suggested to the OP.

 

[phosphorylation]

thats weird you guys, because i've went to websites like ohio state, meharry, new york, etc, they all require 8 semester hours of organic chemistry....
check this out people

http://www.dent.ohio-state.edu/admissions/Requirements/Req_required_prerequisite_coursework.htm

they say two quarters or two semesters...two quarters IS NOT two semesters...another thing, if you want to be even more specific, go to the link were it says specific courses for OSU students...the designated courses are courses that are equivalent to 9 quarter hours...6 lecture, 3 lab..which is 6 semster hours!

I'm gonna take the full year of Ochem just for the sake of feeling safe, but thats pretty odd though....same thing with a lot of other unis, atleast another 6 that i saw... 😕
oh well, good luck with the cycle everyone...

george

 

[accidental]

Speak for yourself. I consulted my premed dean and he didn't flat out say take x number of credits per semester that some of you were saying but instead said take your time and do well in them, i.e. pace yourself. I could see why some of you might say that they are useless. Probably because they are not PERSONAL advisors but I realized 2 things, 1 they probably deal with a lot of premed/predents so they can't dwell on the specifics of each individual case and 2 there are not there to hold your hands and walk you through the predent/premed curricula, if anything they are just contact people for med schools and dental schools for the specific undergrad institution, and they are people too. They may give their share of off the mark advice(they are not going to know you perfectly) prone to make mistakes and have character weaknesses, some are good some are bad.


People on this board should desist from bashing deans and advisors too much. It sends a wrong message. If you don't like their advice consult other sources and if its wrong disregard it. 😡

Nothing against you JRogoff

Did you read anything in JRogoff's post? Because you had a good experience doesn't mean we can't post our bad ones. No one is bashing deans either - I don't know where that came from.

The point is there is a standard set of classes that predental students should take and that doesn't vary from student to student and its an advisors job to steer you in the right direction. I don't think going to an advisor to get the correct prereqs to take qualifies as holding your hand - its their job.

Also if advisors are dealing with so many premed/predental students as you say shouldn't they know the correct prereqs?

 

[Dentin068]

Yeah you might wanna check each school's requirement for Organic Chemistry. At NYU they require 6-8 credit hours with lab. Generally speaking should take 2 semesters and a lab.

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NYU College of Dentistry 2008

 

[JRogoff]

Thanks for getting my back Accidental, you are right, i don't think blankguy read anything i said.

 

[blankguy]

Did you read anything in JRogoff's post? Because you had a good experience doesn't mean we can't post our bad ones. No one is bashing deans either - I don't know where that came from.

The point is there is a standard set of classes that predental students should take and that doesn't vary from student to student and its an advisors job to steer you in the right direction. I don't think going to an advisor to get the correct prereqs to take qualifies as holding your hand - its their job.

Also if advisors are dealing with so many premed/predental students as you say shouldn't they know the correct prereqs?

They do know what the standard set of courses are but what they probably won't know is how to deal with each individual set of circumstances that go beyond completing the prereqs, if the person needs additional help beyond completing the prereqs. I feel that under 3.0 club members like me are the ones who tax the advising resources to the max because if we weren't it would be simple complete prereqs and apply or take additional courses just to prep for predent. We have to constantly look for backdoors.

The comment about holding hands came from me having read a lot of posts
and some people seem to think that advisors are the solve it all. I'm not bashing anybody.

 

[blankguy]

Thanks for getting my back Accidental, you are right, i don't think blankguy read anything i said.

Sorry about going off but it wasn't directed at you. 😳

 

[JRogoff]

No sweat, its cool, just don't be calling people out like that for no reason.

 

[blankguy]

I just suffered "tunnel vision" zeroing in on a post instead of getting the whole essence of the thread. 🙁