Orgo 2 - Screwed if You Forgot Orgo 1?

[ysk1]

HI,

I did Orgo 1 2 semesters ago and I'm taking Orgo 2 this semester.
I forgot many Orgo 1 concepts and facts and now the Orgo 2 instructor started out by reviewing Orgo 1 concepts. SN1&2, E1&2 were okay, but he also reviewed in class reactions like epoxide formation, which I barely remembered.

Do special reactions like epoxide and mercuration come up in Orgo 2? If you forgot many Orgo 1 reactions, then are you screwed in Orgo 2?

My current Orgo 2 instructor even made us review his Orgo 1 final exam.
Most people in this Orgo 2 class took his Orgo 1 so they are familiar with his style and material, but I took Orgo 1 from a different instructor who emphasized different things.

Am I at a disadvantage compared to a majority of people in my current Orgo 2 who took Orgo 1 from this current Orgo 2 prof and who just took Orgo 1 last semester?

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[RySerr21]

HI,

I did Orgo 1 2 semesters ago and I'm taking Orgo 2 this semester.
I forgot many Orgo 1 concepts and facts and now the Orgo 2 instructor started out by reviewing Orgo 1 concepts. SN1&2, E1&2 were okay, but he also reviewed in class reactions like epoxide formation, which I barely remembered.

Do special reactions like epoxide and mercuration come up in Orgo 2? If you forgot many Orgo 1 reactions, then are you screwed in Orgo 2?

My current Orgo 2 instructor even made us review his Orgo 1 final exam.
Most people in this Orgo 2 class took his Orgo 1 so they are familiar with his style and material, but I took Orgo 1 from a different instructor who emphasized different things.

Am I at a disadvantage compared to a majority of people in my current Orgo 2 who took Orgo 1 from this current Orgo 2 prof and who just took Orgo 1 last semester?

if you just review, it will come back to you. your disadvantage is slight if at all and you can easily overcome it. anything from ochem 1 that you need to know he will cover, so thats what you should know.

 

[Crixivan]

It's probably more important that you remember how to study for it, i.e. how to memorize reactions and products.

I should point out that at least at my school, the final for the second organic class was comprehensive over both classes.

 

[PanicAttack]

You ARE going to be held responsible for the old reactions especially when you get to multi-step synthesis problems. Keep in mind that fundamental concepts such as functional group characteristics, nucleophilic/electrophilic stuff and stereochemistry will keep coming up in Orgo 2.

 

[ocwaveoc]

You ARE going to be held responsible for the old reactions especially when you get to multi-step synthesis problems. Keep in mind that fundamental concepts such as functional group characteristics, nucleophilic/electrophilic stuff and stereochemistry will keep coming up in Orgo 2.

This is correct. My Orgo 2 class had a bunch of Orgo 1 rxns we were responsible for. She told us what they were. So, all we had to do was review them. I think that if you have a good understanding of SN1/2, E1/2 rxns and some of the fundamental concepts from Orgo 1, you'll be fine in Orgo 2.

 

[metalmd06]

You will need a lot of the Orgo I stuff to get by in Orgo II, but much of it comes out of the new things you will learn. There will be an entirely new set of reactions and principles for you to learn, but the basics are still the same. You will see that as you practice and study, techniques from the first semester class will seep into your logic.

I would still give it a solid review though.

 

[futuredrcrawfor]

You can do it- I had a very lazy and confusing Organic Chem 1 professor and never understood what I was suppose to be studying I ended up making a C because of the curve.

However, I got a great prof for Organic 2 and started figuring out what it was about and studied harder. I ended up with an A (without a curve!) so it is always possible. I just would go back and review a concept or reaction (for synthesis purposes) as needed.

 

[chemphd]

Where I am, we always review orgo I before heading on- like a quick, one day summary. Or you could just review for yourself if they don't do that🙂 You will probably need some of those reactions, though.