I'm in the same boat. I am so worried I won't get two sloes one for aug and one for sept now. If I don't have 2 sloes in by Oct are my chances over?
hello gamerEMdoc... I was wondering how ACGME programs would look at one of your sloes being from AOA. I have two additional auditions at ACGME spots as well, one of which was a former AOA site.
Has anyone heard of any programs with any open positions available for Aug or September? Even if they are sub-electives in ultrasound or pediatrics EM? I checked the CDEM website and have applied to a few there but getting extremely worried as I do not have any EM audition rotations set up before September. Any help would be really really appreciated! Thank you!!
Had another question gamerEMdoc.. Understanding that Jul 6th is when the AOA match opens up, I've been scrambling to get letters of recommendation. Is it okay to get a letter of recommendation from where I did a third year EM rotation and then wait for SLOEs when I start auditions in July? Or do I have to rush to get them. I'm applying for both matches, but I plan to have SLOES for ACGME match.
ERAS states you can start applying on 07/06 to AOA programs, but also says that programs don't start receiving applications until 07/15. So is there reason to apply on any date before 07/15? I would assume this would buy you 9 extra days.
Coming from a MD with firsthand knowledge of the program. They have not been around for 4 years. This is the first year of the program. They pulled out of the AOA match several weeks after ERAS opened and had several hundred applications at that time. The PD is very honest and does not sugar coat anything. This is something of value when looking for a program where the majority of PD's at other programs will lie to you about their interest. He did not want to jeopardize future residents careers if ACGME does not go through. He is well respected throughout the area and if you speak to anyone from UAMS they will reiterate the same high regards. EM is highly competitive so unlike the majority of you think it is not absurd to have high standards for applicants. The program will get ACGME approval. Faculty at Unity Health were all chiefs at their residencies. The majority came from UAMS. Faculty also includes a former UAMS PD.
Received information from a friend in the area that this program is due to completely shut down. I truly hope this can be corrected(or my friend misspoke) for the initial class sake.
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One of my classmates is auditioning there sometime this fall. They've been told that they will not be in the AOA match, only in ACGME if they get approval, if not, they will only take students that rotated there in the AOA Scramble.
There's an agreement to allow programs to continue past 2020 if they don't get accredited so that their current residents can graduate. However they won't be able to take new residents.So if they don't get approval don't they close in 2020? It honestly seems like it could be a good program. Too much inpatient/outpatient stuff but a good program nonetheless.
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The point is, if you match into an AOA residency that ultimately fails to get ACGME accreditation, you are still protected assuming that the hospital C-suite actually cares a little about their residents.I meant the one not transitioning ...
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No, now you're either lying or lazy. I put "EM resident procedure numbers" into Google, and found it in less than 30 seconds. This is a GREAT way to get no one to help you.
Attention Osteopathic Medical Applicants: AOA-accredited programs can be found under the "DO" filter selection on the Search Programs page along with their AOA Program ID. As AOA-accredited programs receive ACGME accreditation through the single graduate medical education accreditation system, they will receive their new ACGME program ID and will be listed under the "MD" filter selection on the Search Programs page. Programs that have both AOA and ACGME IDs and are participating in ERAS will be listed under both the "MD" and "DO" sections.
Well, I'm confused.
This banner at the top of the ERAS dashboard:
There are definitely some that have switched to 3 years that are still in the DO section (as well as the MD section) and are listed as participating in both the AOA and ACGME match on the participation list. Are the 3 year programs still able to participate in the AOA match again this year after all?
Henry Ford Macomb and Henry Ford Wyandotte have both received 3 year ACGME accreditation and are both listed under the MD + DO sections of ERAS. I'm sure there are others but those are just the only two I know of off the top of my head.Which programs are you talking about?
yeah that is some nonsense. ERAS should at least reimburse us or put it towards the later application. We already shell out of thousands of dollars in this process.
You need one SLOE by Sept. It's common knowledge on the programs end that many candidates won't get a second sloe until sometime during interview season. I think its like 80% of PD's stated they send interviews out to people with one SLOE (because they realize a second one will come later).
DO student here! Have been lurking these forums for a very long time now. I know I'm not the first to say how much I appreciate how much effort you put into your words of advice.
Regarding the above post, I and many of my colleagues from my school may have some issues. We did not begin OMS-IV until this month. Many, if not all of us interested in EM, are having or have had their first EM rotation now at a home ED that is likely unrelated to a program. I, myself, have had one rotation in my third year, and am now doing an EM subspecialty rotation. I've been informed that there is a subspecialty SLOE, but that this would not necessarily be sufficient for a normal EM SLOE.
I had applied for several (but perhaps not enough) programs for a rotation next month, but currently am unassigned (issues beyond my control). I'm awaiting a response from another program but don't have high hopes. The month three months after, though, I do have a rotation at programs that I'll be trying to get SLOEs from.
Any suggestions? <3<3
Hello gamerEMdoc... might be a question that might vary from program to program... but how does a audition EM program decide if you get a P, HP or H? I am asking because I've never been graded with that system... its always been letter system. Just finished my first EM audition rotation. I didn't have a shift with the CD, PD or aPD. So would they simply average the # of top 1/3rds, middle 1/3rds, and bottom 1/3rds in each SLOE category of each of my evalulators? We had no final exams. And is a attending evaluation weighted greater than a resident evaluation?