Osteopathic EM programs

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Makati2008 said:
I think it's a mix of those two things. Supposedly in the class of 2012 at my school a few guys had the same thing happen(folks promising them a spot and falling for it and not matching)
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Haha, okay... so lessons for matching EM:
-Rank everyone
-Don't listen when they tell you not to bother ranking anyone else
-Don't rank non-EM

Sums it up, right?
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JediZero said:
Again, I'll direct you to the source I cited, page 7. Like I said, it's hard to figure out from just the numbers what happens to that other 30%
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Yeah... I have seen the numbers but I don't know how to interpret them. I could believe ~30 people not matching into anything for various reasons.

Agree with applying wide and attending all interviews. Who knows *shrug*
 
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Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Kent - Warwick, RI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
St. Joseph - NJ
St. Mary - MI
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
 
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
St. Mary - MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
St. Joseph - NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV
 
My god, I wish I could have applied DO. (I'm a caribbean MD grad).

Home is PA/OH. I would have killed to be anywhere in west PA/east OH.

Good luck to all yinz.
 
RustedFox said:
My god, I wish I could have applied DO. (I'm a caribbean MD grad).

Home is PA/OH. I would have killed to be anywhere in west PA/east OH.

Good luck to all yinz.
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Lol. DO was the best decision I've made in the last decade...
 
As an FYI for everyone...one program I recently interviewed at told me they have gotten about 350 apps for an entering class of <10, and of the 350, they only interview 20%. I will definitely be ranking every place I get interviewed.
 
JediZero said:
Again, I'll direct you to the source I cited, page 7. Like I said, it's hard to figure out from just the numbers what happens to that other 30%, but I do hope you're right, and that these are just people who rank a couple of AOA programs they really like before moving on to ACGME. From that fifth set of bullet points in my post, it looks like there were about 200 DO's who did both matches last year. While EM isn't a huge portion of the match overall, it does make sense that a disproportionate fraction of those 200 are applying to EM, as a chance to be out of residency a year earlier is a pretty hefty incentive above and beyond what most DO students are looking for in the ACGME world.

Question is, though, does that account for everyone? That's 103 who didn't match in 2011. Assume a couple of them got the two empty spots in the scramble, and another 15-20 went into the FM-EM/IM-EM programs. Still about 75 unaccounted for, and in 2011 it looks like only 64 did both matches (it looks like there were 950 who either withdrew or did not submit a rank list, so presumably they successfully matched AOA and are not the droids we're looking for). Even if EM is over-represented, how high of an estimate are we willing to say for those guys, when EM is 9% of AOA positions and 7% of ACGME positions? I mean, let's be generous and say 15. Still leaves about 50 that applied EM with no other place to land. I hope this group is composed of people who were undecided about their specialty, and that they are happy in another specialty.

And frankly, unless you're a rockstar with tons of options, I'd rank everywhere you could reasonably expect to rank you (i.e. interviews). Maybe you thought the program was ****ty, but unless it's ****tier than the prospect of scrambling into an FM residency in BFE, it's better to have it at the bottom of your list than not.
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Last year my program lost a few people from out top ten. We had a couple people who applied but were in the Military and did not get their deferment, we had one who went to the MD match, and we had one who decided against EM as a specialty and matched into IM.
 
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Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
St. Mary - MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
St. Joseph - NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV


DO3 said:
As an FYI for everyone...one program I recently interviewed at told me they have gotten about 350 apps for an entering class of <10, and of the 350, they only interview 20%. I will definitely be ranking every place I get interviewed.
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Place I'm at now got 550+ applications, interviewing <50, for a class <6. Good times. I wouldn't consider turning down/canceling interviews unless I get 15+ or I run out of money to travel.
 
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Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
St. Mary - MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
St. Joseph - NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV
 
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
St. Mary - MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV
 
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
St. Mary - MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital - Monroe, MI
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV
 
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Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Henry Ford - Wyandotte, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
St. Mary - MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital - Monroe, MI
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV


Lots of overlapping dates for Michigan programs... will end up doing multiple interviews per day :confused:
 
So to breathe some humanity back into this thread... man, if you haven't tried to explain Chapman's Points to an MD attending at 4 AM to kill time on a slow shift, you haven't lived. XD
 
Everglide said:
Lots of overlapping dates for Michigan programs... will end up doing multiple interviews per day :confused:
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Seriously this makes interviewing very difficult. Dates are only offered on Wednesdays for most programs and when there are so few dates it only compounds the scheduling difficulties. For out of state interviews is it acceptable to ask for a program to make an exception for an interview date? So that you dont have to make multiple trips to the same area for separate programs?
 
Okay, so question about PCOM/St Luke's...

They're not listed as Dual-Accredited, but they do have an ACGME residency attached. I guess they're just parallel programs (different directors, etc).

However, according to the AOA section of the website, they only rank students in the NRMP.

Is this accurate? It seems a little ridiculous for an AOA program to not use NMS. Though now I'm debating registering for NRMP before it's too late, even if that's a bit of a Hail Mary...
 
I was wondering about that as well. I also have to admit I don't understand programs being parallel rather than dual. They obviously have the capability of having dual accreditation... what is the advantage to being parallel instead?
 
MSUSpartan642 said:
Seriously this makes interviewing very difficult. Dates are only offered on Wednesdays for most programs and when there are so few dates it only compounds the scheduling difficulties. For out of state interviews is it acceptable to ask for a program to make an exception for an interview date? So that you dont have to make multiple trips to the same area for separate programs?
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I think some of the small programs (eg: taking 2 residents) and new programs mention they offer this in their interview invite emails. Already looking at 3 days with double interviews here, luckily not having to drive more than 2 hours away so not a big deal.


Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Genesys - Grand Blanc, MI
Henry Ford - Wyandotte, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
St. Mary - MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital - Monroe, MI
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
Aria - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV
 
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Guys, I only have 6 interviews set up as of now, is that a very low number for this point in the cycle? Will the programs listed above send out another round of invitations or do they just do this once/cycle? I applied to 32 programs. Thanks.
 
Bones DO said:
Guys, I only have 6 interviews set up as of now, is that a very low number for this point in the cycle? Will the programs listed above send out another round of invitations or do they just do this once/cycle? I applied to 32 programs. Thanks.
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Supposedly you need 12-15 interviews to be "safe" but out of your six how many of them are courtesy from rotation? Are they all high tier places or ones you think you have a reasonable shot at matching?

Also it seems like they send out a second wave after people decline interviews.

I would have a safety speciality in mind as well.
 
Makati2008 said:
Supposedly you need 12-15 interviews to be "safe" but out of your six how many of them are courtesy from rotation? Are they all high tier places or ones you think you have a reasonable shot at matching?

Also it seems like they send out a second wave after people decline interviews.

I would have a safety speciality in mind as well.
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3 are at places I'm rotating... all are realistic so far but they're all smaller programs which makes me somewhat nervous. The one I'm at currently is so small that they don't interview anyone without an audition rotation. I'll obviously rank everyone that interviews me, 15 of my programs do not yet appear on the above list so that means they've yet to send out invites that we know of, correct? Hoping if I get 6 from the first half of my programs and another 5 or 6 from the other 15 I'll be ok. I wouldn't mind doing EM/IM or FM/EM if needed but sure would like to avoid that if possible!
 
Bones DO said:
3 are at places I'm rotating... all are realistic so far but they're all smaller programs which makes me somewhat nervous. The one I'm at currently is so small that they don't interview anyone without an audition rotation. I'll obviously rank everyone that interviews me, 15 of my programs do not yet appear on the above list so that means they've yet to send out invites that we know of, correct? Hoping if I get 6 from the first half of my programs and another 5 or 6 from the other 15 I'll be ok. I wouldn't mind doing EM/IM or FM/EM if needed but sure would like to avoid that if possible!
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This may be one time smaller may be better. If you are shining like a rock star they will probably rank you highly. The main thing is will the program give you the skills to be a competent EP? Are their graduates passing their oral and written boards on the first attempt? Also be sure to look up the EM/IM places you want to apply. Two of them have appeared to close.
 
are people actually ranking EM/IM programs as a "backup"? i was under the impression those were more difficult to get into. maybe not?
 
joeDO2 said:
are people actually ranking EM/IM programs as a "backup"? i was under the impression those were more difficult to get into. maybe not?
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I think some people are but it's not cakewalk. The curriculum is brutal at some of the places I looked but you'll be a very well rounded doc. Some of the openings last year were in EM/IM if I remember correctly(marietta oh).
 
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Genesys - Grand Blanc, MI
Henry Ford Macomb - Clinton Township, MI
Henry Ford Wyandotte - Wyandotte, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
Metro - Grand Rapids, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
St. Mary - MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital - Monroe, MI
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
Aria - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV


I believe that covers all of the Michigan programs except Garden City, Mt Clemens/McLaren Macomb and Oakwood.. anyone hear from them yet?
 
Hmm... New idea:

*Kingman RMC - Kingman, AZ
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
*Palm Beach GME, West Palm Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Genesys - Grand Blanc, MI
Henry Ford Macomb - Clinton Township, MI
Henry Ford Wyandotte - Wyandotte, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
Metro - Grand Rapids, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
St. Mary Mercy - Livonia, MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
*McLaren Macomb - Mount Clemens, MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital - Monroe, MI
*Garden City Hospital - Garden City, MI
*Oakwood - Trenton, MI
*Freeman Hospitals - Joplin, MO
*Newark Beth Israel - Newark, NJ
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
*Good Sam - West Islip, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
*Grandview Hospital - Dayton, OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
*South Pointe - Warrensville Heights, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
*Comanche County Memorial - Lawton, OK
*Southwest Medical Center - Oklahoma City, OK
*Oklahoma State - Tulsa, OK
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
Aria - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
*Memorial Hospital - York, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
*Charleston Area Medical Center - Charleston, WV
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV

Pretty colors! Plus a star, so you can see it when it's quoted. ;)
 
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*Kingman RMC - Kingman, AZ
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
*Palm Beach GME, West Palm Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Genesys - Grand Blanc, MI
Henry Ford Macomb - Clinton Township, MI
Henry Ford Wyandotte - Wyandotte, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
Metro - Grand Rapids, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
St. Mary Mercy - Livonia, MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
*McLaren Macomb - Mount Clemens, MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital - Monroe, MI
*Garden City Hospital - Garden City, MI
*Oakwood - Trenton, MI
*Freeman Hospitals - Joplin, MO
*Newark Beth Israel - Newark, NJ
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
*Good Sam - West Islip, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Grandview Hospital - Dayton, OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
*South Pointe - Warrensville Heights, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
*Comanche County Memorial - Lawton, OK
*Southwest Medical Center - Oklahoma City, OK
*Oklahoma State - Tulsa, OK
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
Aria - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
*Memorial Hospital - York, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
*Charleston Area Medical Center - Charleston, WV
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV
 
Everglide said:
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Genesys - Grand Blanc, MI
Henry Ford Macomb - Clinton Township, MI
Henry Ford Wyandotte - Wyandotte, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
Metro - Grand Rapids, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
St. Mary - MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital - Monroe, MI
Oakwood - Trenton, MI
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
Aria - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV


I believe that covers all of the Michigan programs except Garden City, Mt Clemens/McLaren Macomb and Oakwood.. anyone hear from them yet?
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Added Oakwood yesterday. Not a fan of the color thing that was going on so I went back to just simple yet comprehensible.
 
MalachiConstant said:
Not sure if I'm supposed to delete the star or not...

*Kingman RMC - Kingman, AZ
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
*Palm Beach GME, West Palm Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Genesys - Grand Blanc, MI
Henry Ford Macomb - Clinton Township, MI
Henry Ford Wyandotte - Wyandotte, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
Metro - Grand Rapids, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
St. Mary Mercy - Livonia, MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
*McLaren Macomb - Mount Clemens, MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital - Monroe, MI
*Garden City Hospital - Garden City, MI
*Oakwood - Trenton, MI
*Freeman Hospitals - Joplin, MO
*Newark Beth Israel - Newark, NJ
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
*Good Sam - West Islip, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Grandview Hospital - Dayton, OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
*South Pointe - Warrensville Heights, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
*Comanche County Memorial - Lawton, OK
*Southwest Medical Center - Oklahoma City, OK
*Oklahoma State - Tulsa, OK
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
Aria - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
*Memorial Hospital - York, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
*Charleston Area Medical Center - Charleston, WV
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV
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If blue is places that haven't had folks invited to interview then I would take down Newark( I am going there December) and I would also remove Tulsa and OKC since you must rotate there.
 
MalachiConstant said:
Not sure if I'm supposed to delete the star or not...

*Kingman RMC - Kingman, AZ
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
*Palm Beach GME, West Palm Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Genesys - Grand Blanc, MI
Henry Ford Macomb - Clinton Township, MI
Henry Ford Wyandotte - Wyandotte, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
Metro - Grand Rapids, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
St. Mary Mercy - Livonia, MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
*McLaren Macomb - Mount Clemens, MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital - Monroe, MI
*Garden City Hospital - Garden City, MI
*Oakwood - Trenton, MI
*Freeman Hospitals - Joplin, MO
*Newark Beth Israel - Newark, NJ
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
*Good Sam - West Islip, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Grandview Hospital - Dayton, OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
*South Pointe - Warrensville Heights, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
*Comanche County Memorial - Lawton, OK
*Southwest Medical Center - Oklahoma City, OK
*Oklahoma State - Tulsa, OK
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
Aria - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
*Memorial Hospital - York, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
*Charleston Area Medical Center - Charleston, WV
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV
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If blue is places that haven't had folks invited to interview then I would take down Newark( I am going there December) and I would also remove Tulsa and OKC since you must rotate there.
 
Makati2008 said:
If blue is places that haven't had folks invited to interview then I would take down Newark( I am going there December) and I would also remove Tulsa and OKC since you must rotate there.
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Okay, updated... When did you hear from Newark?

*Kingman RMC - Kingman, AZ
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
*Palm Beach GME, West Palm Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Genesys - Grand Blanc, MI
Henry Ford Macomb - Clinton Township, MI
Henry Ford Wyandotte - Wyandotte, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
Metro - Grand Rapids, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
St. Mary Mercy - Livonia, MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
*McLaren Macomb - Mount Clemens, MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital - Monroe, MI
*Garden City Hospital - Garden City, MI
Oakwood - Trenton, MI
*Freeman Hospitals - Joplin, MO
Newark Beth Israel - Newark, NJ
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
*Good Sam - West Islip, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
*Grandview Hospital - Dayton, OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
*South Pointe - Warrensville Heights, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
*Comanche County Memorial - Lawton, OK
Southwest Medical Center - Oklahoma City, OK (Rotation Required)
Oklahoma State - Tulsa, OK (Rotation Required)
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
Aria - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
*Memorial Hospital - York, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
*Charleston Area Medical Center - Charleston, WV
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV
 
JediZero said:
Okay, updated... When did you hear from Newark?

*Kingman RMC - Kingman, AZ
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
*Palm Beach GME, West Palm Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Genesys - Grand Blanc, MI
Henry Ford Macomb - Clinton Township, MI
Henry Ford Wyandotte - Wyandotte, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
Metro - Grand Rapids, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
St. Mary Mercy - Livonia, MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
*McLaren Macomb - Mount Clemens, MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital - Monroe, MI
*Garden City Hospital - Garden City, MI
Oakwood - Trenton, MI
*Freeman Hospitals - Joplin, MO
Newark Beth Israel - Newark, NJ
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
*Good Sam - West Islip, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
*Grandview Hospital - Dayton, OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
*South Pointe - Warrensville Heights, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
*Comanche County Memorial - Lawton, OK
Southwest Medical Center - Oklahoma City, OK (Rotation Required)
Oklahoma State - Tulsa, OK (Rotation Required)
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
Aria - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
*Memorial Hospital - York, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
*Charleston Area Medical Center - Charleston, WV
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV
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October 1st
 
Bones DO said:
how many programs did y'all apply to?
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Was going to do 12 programs but went with 25 after taking the earlier advice of applying broad and canceling later if needed... Ended up with 19 interviews with a possible couple more programs to hear from.

Most people I have met at interviews only applied at 5-10 places. The SDN effect :scared:
 
9 for 16 so far. 3 places I applied to are still blue on the list, and I made the mistake of applying to the Oklahomas without a rotation so I've written those off.

*Kingman RMC - Kingman, AZ
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
*Palm Beach GME, West Palm Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Genesys - Grand Blanc, MI
Henry Ford Macomb - Clinton Township, MI
Henry Ford Wyandotte - Wyandotte, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
Metro - Grand Rapids, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
St. Mary Mercy - Livonia, MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
*McLaren Macomb - Mount Clemens, MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital - Monroe, MI
*Garden City Hospital - Garden City, MI
Oakwood - Trenton, MI
*Freeman Hospitals - Joplin, MO
Newark Beth Israel - Newark, NJ
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
*Good Sam - West Islip, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Grandview Hospital - Dayton, OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
*South Pointe - Warrensville Heights, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
*Comanche County Memorial - Lawton, OK
Southwest Medical Center - Oklahoma City, OK (Rotation Required)
Oklahoma State - Tulsa, OK (Rotation Required)
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
Aria - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
*Memorial Hospital - York, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
*Charleston Area Medical Center - Charleston, WV
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV [/QUOTE]
 
RustedFox said:
My god, I wish I could have applied DO. (I'm a caribbean MD grad).

Home is PA/OH. I would have killed to be anywhere in west PA/east OH.

Good luck to all yinz.
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Exactly.

(excuse the inflammatory post; i couldn't help myself)

HH
 
I'm at 7 interviews for 31 app's, 4 of which are at auditions...how many auditions did you guys do?
 
Bones DO said:
I'm at 7 interviews for 31 app's, 4 of which are at auditions...how many auditions did you guys do?
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Hopefully this advice is not too late, but show your face at as many programs as you can!!! I can't tell you how many candidates we interview didn't think to come shadow for a day or just hang out in the ED after their interview.... Obviously, you can't rotate at every program you apply to, but with so many applicants for so few spots, many places only interview a handful of people that didn't rotate with them. When I did 2 months of audition rotations in Michigan as a student I spent 58 days in an ED. When I was off from my actual rotation I was shadowing at another program. 4 PD's told me straight up, that they wouldn't have interviewed me if I didn't show my face at their shop.
 
So according to my interview this morning, St. Joseph's Paterson is now dual-accredited. Was very confused to see an MD student in my interview group, but I guess they just got that as of September. Cool stuff...
 
Maybe... may
JediZero said:
So according to my interview this morning, St. Joseph's Paterson is now dual-accredited. Was very confused to see an MD student in my interview group, but I guess they just got that as of September. Cool stuff...
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maybe... maybe not. I just looked and they indeed pop up under the "MD" program search but they say on their website and everything that I can find that they are AOA accredited but I can't find one mention of ACGME, ABEM, or anything like that. It also says they are a "1-3 program after finishing an approved osteopathic internship year" which, to me, means 1-4. If they had an MD candidate there then hard to argue it but not sure how they can say they are dual accredited when their website says they aren't unless this is something so absolutely recent that it hasn't even been updated on the website (and September doesn't fall into that criteria for me) but who knows...
 
QuackaDO said:
Maybe... may

maybe... maybe not. I just looked and they indeed pop up under the "MD" program search but they say on their website and everything that I can find that they are AOA accredited but I can't find one mention of ACGME, ABEM, or anything like that. It also says they are a "1-3 program after finishing an approved osteopathic internship year" which, to me, means 1-4. If they had an MD candidate there then hard to argue it but not sure how they can say they are dual accredited when their website says they aren't unless this is something so absolutely recent that it hasn't even been updated on the website (and September doesn't fall into that criteria for me) but who knows...
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This was directly from the program director, and was echoed by many other throughout the day. They probably just haven't updated the website yet, but I Promise you this is 100% accurate. Big boost for the program, even though they were really good to begin with. Said they plan on offering four spots through NMS and two through NRMP.
 
JediZero said:
This was directly from the program director, and was echoed by many other throughout the day. They probably just haven't updated the website yet, but I Promise you this is 100% accurate. Big boost for the program, even though they were really good to begin with. Said they plan on offering four spots through NMS and two through NRMP.
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Jedi is correct. This was told to me via the program coordinator and I asked could I apply to the MD side with Comlex only(due to those interview dates working out better) and they told me nope need the usmle.
 
Makati2008 said:
Jedi is correct. This was told to me via the program coordinator and I asked could I apply to the MD side with Comlex only(due to those interview dates working out better) and they told me nope need the usmle.
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Resident at St. Joe's here. We are dual-accredited starting this cycle. Look forward to seeing all you applicants!
 
Good Samaritan...

*Kingman RMC - Kingman, AZ
Arrowhead Regional Medical Center - Colton, CA
Mount Sinai - Miami Beach, FL
*Palm Beach GME, West Palm Beach, FL
St. James - Olympia Fields, IL
Allegiance - Jackson, MI
Botsford - Farmington Hills, MI
Genesys - Grand Blanc, MI
Henry Ford Macomb - Clinton Township, MI
Henry Ford Wyandotte - Wyandotte, MI
Lakeland - St. Joseph, MI
Metro - Grand Rapids, MI
Sparrow - Lansing, MI
St. Mary Mercy - Livonia, MI
St John - Madison Heights, MI
McLaren Oakland (POH) - Pontiac, MI
*McLaren Macomb - Mount Clemens, MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital - Monroe, MI
*Garden City Hospital - Garden City, MI
Oakwood - Trenton, MI
*Freeman Hospitals - Joplin, MO
Newark Beth Israel - Newark, NJ
St. Joseph - Paterson, NJ
Inspira Health - Vineland NJ
Rowan/Kennedy - Stratford, NJ
St. Barnabas - Bronx, NY
Good Sam - West Islip, NY
Adena Health System - Chillicothe, OH
Doctors Hospital - Columbus OH
Grandview Hospital - Dayton, OH
Marietta Memorial - Marietta, OH
SOMC - Portsmouth, OH
St. Joseph - Warren, OH
*South Pointe - Warrensville Heights, OH
St. John - Westlake, OH
UH-Regional Hospitals - Richmond Heights, OH
*Comanche County Memorial - Lawton, OK
Southwest Medical Center - Oklahoma City, OK (Rotation Required)
Oklahoma State - Tulsa, OK (Rotation Required)
Conemaugh Memorial - Johnstown, PA
Upmc hamot - Erie, PA
Albert Einstein - Philadelphia, PA
Aria - Philadelphia, PA
St. Luke's - Bethlehem, PA
Lehigh Valley - Allentown, PA
St. Vincent - Erie, PA
*Memorial Hospital - York, PA
Kent - Warwick, RI
*Charleston Area Medical Center - Charleston, WV
Ohio Valley - Wheeling, WV
 
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