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[asdad]

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3.67 GPA
3.49 Science GPA
11V 12 12
Great ECs, but no research
ok interview

I just double checked my GPA. It was 3.67 when I applied😀 I hope this is a good sign.
And my ECs would be "acceptable" if they ever get around to reading the last update letter I sent.

 

[Dr. Giggles]

I just got accepted from the "decision pending" or "deferred" list this morning. I interviewed in February. I'm an out-of-stater.

Much-deserved props! We've really struck gold this cycle.

Do you all think OSU has separate waitlists for Ohioans and non-residents? I know it's a public school with ~50% in-state enrollment, but according to the admissions website, residency isn't a consideration in their decisions. Hopefully some residents will get a call by the end of the week.

 

[NotAnMD]

bump...come on buckeyes

 

[kanman75]

Any movement lately?

 

[nigel]

I spoke with the admissions office last week. While they have been very courteous and helpful, especially compared to other schools from what I've heard, I wasn't too happy about the information I got. They said they are not going to group or rank the applicants in the deferred pool this year and will not be able to give us any indication of our standing compared to the others.

I guess every time a spot opens up the committee goes through all the applications again? This doesn't seem quite right to me, has anyone gotten a similar or different story?

 

[kanman75]

Got a call this morning and I got accepted!! It feels so good, I really hope that all of you can experience this. Good luck with everything and hopefully see you in fall!

 

[asdad]

Got a call this morning and I got accepted!! It feels so good, I really hope that all of you can experience this. Good luck with everything and hopefully see you in fall!

congrats!! I am so happy for you 😀

man I hope I get that call sometime soon else I will have to start working on reapplying for next year

kanman, do you have any idea how many ppl were accepted off the waitlist today?
and were you instate or outofstate applicant?

 

[kanman75]

congrats!! I am so happy for you 😀

man I hope I get that call sometime soon else I will have to start working on reapplying for next year

kanman, do you have any idea how many ppl were accepted off the waitlist today?
and were you instate or outofstate applicant?

I am an instate applicant, but I have no idea how many got off the list today. It seems they are moving very slowly because she said I was near the top of the list. So maybe it is something like 1 or 2 people a day?

 

[NotAnMD]

I am an instate applicant, but I have no idea how many got off the list today. It seems they are moving very slowly because she said I was near the top of the list. So maybe it is something like 1 or 2 people a day?

Congrats!!! that's awesome.

Were you sending updates? How are your stats compared to OSU averages? When/how good was your interview?

Thanks!

 

[kanman75]

Congrats!!! that's awesome.

Were you sending updates? How are your stats compared to OSU averages? When/how good was your interview?

Thanks!

Well, I sent a letter of intent and kept calling and asking questions. Other than that, I didn't send any transcripts or anything because I had actually done worse the semester of applications.

I think it's good news for you guys that my stats were not great...3.67 overall, 32 MCAT, and decent, but not great EC's. I do think I had a really good interview though, so that probably helped me out the most. Thanks for all the congrats guys.

 

[BlondieMD]

what types of questions were you asking? wait-list related or concerning your personal application?

 

[BlondieMD]

Well, I sent a letter of intent and kept calling and asking questions. Other than that, I didn't send any transcripts or anything because I had actually done worse the semester of applications.

I think it's good news for you guys that my stats were not great...3.67 overall, 32 MCAT, and decent, but not great EC's. I do think I had a really good interview though, so that probably helped me out the most. Thanks for all the congrats guys.

ALSO, CONGRATS!!!! From a fellow in-stater...BUT I think they need to accept me to up that male to female ratio...haha 😉

 

[kanman75]

ALSO, CONGRATS!!!! From a fellow in-stater...BUT I think they need to accept me to up that male to female ratio...haha 😉

Yea, they need to, and thanks! I was mostly asking waitlist questions though. You should definitely email them for anything you need, they help a lot.

 

[buckeyebee]

I spoke with the admissions office last week. While they have been very courteous and helpful, especially compared to other schools from what I've heard, I wasn't too happy about the information I got. They said they are not going to group or rank the applicants in the deferred pool this year and will not be able to give us any indication of our standing compared to the others.

I guess every time a spot opens up the committee goes through all the applications again? This doesn't seem quite right to me, has anyone gotten a similar or different story?

I got the exact same answer after calling several times. The woman I talked to last Wednesday said they had just gotten word a few days before that that they were not ranking or grouping the waitlist this year. When I asked, "So there's no way to have any idea of where I am?" She said, "No, sorry!" I think she felt really bad because she could tell I was upset, but it is frustrating. I have no idea how they are doing things this time around- because no ranking whatsoever doesn't make much sense...

 

[buckeyebee]

Yea, they need to, and thanks! I was mostly asking waitlist questions though. You should definitely email them for anything you need, they help a lot.

First of all, congrats, and glad to see a fellow in-stater with similar stats to mine (other than being male 🙂 ) got in. Did you email the general medicine email, or the one given on the previous page? (Sorry I can't remember what it was or who posted it).

Thanks!

 

[kanman75]

First of all, congrats, and glad to see a fellow in-stater with similar stats to mine (other than being male 🙂 ) got in. Did you email the general medicine email, or the one given on the previous page? (Sorry I can't remember what it was or who posted it).

Thanks!

Thanks a lot! I emailed the one on the previous page...

 

[buckeyebee]

Thanks a lot! I emailed the one on the previous page...

Haha I just noticed you were the one who posted that email, but thanks for not calling me an idiot

 

[buckeyebee]

Thanks a lot! I emailed the one on the previous page...

I, unfortunately, did not get the message that mine is one of the ones the committee asked for... though she said all the "decision pending" people have been reviewed and aside from a few that have had files closed, are still under review. I guess I am confused as everyone else is as to whether there is a difference between "decision pending" and waitlist. I'm assuming no, but it's so hard to tell with all the messages being thrown around...

She also said the class is currently full and they have not had the withdrawals they have had in the past. Not so great news 🙁

Good luck to everyone and congrats to those who have already gotten the good news!

 

[BlondieMD]

I, unfortunately, did not get the message that mine is one of the ones the committee asked for... though she said all the "decision pending" people have been reviewed and aside from a few that have had files closed, are still under review. I guess I am confused as everyone else is as to whether there is a difference between "decision pending" and waitlist. I'm assuming no, but it's so hard to tell with all the messages being thrown around...

She also said the class is currently full and they have not had the withdrawals they have had in the past. Not so great news 🙁

Good luck to everyone and congrats to those who have already gotten the good news!

Out of the ones the committee asked for, has everyone gotten notifications? Just wondering..or should I e-mail and ask if mine is under consideration? (I assume that is what you did buckeyebee)

 

[bodi]

I emailed the admissions office at OSU and here is the reply I got:


We have seen some movement from the waitlist, but it has been minimal. This year is changing much slower than previous years and we have no way to predict the final outcome.

In times past, we have grouped those in the deferred category, which is what we call the waitlist since we do not rank it, according to quartile. We are not planning to do that this year, according to the Director of Admissions, Lorna Kenyon. This way the admissions committee reserves the option of choosing who they believe will make a good fit.

As you no doubt know, we can offer a seat in our class up until the first day of class and you can accept as long as you have not attended another school's orientation.

I hope this helps. We appreciate your patience with our process.

Best regards,

At least I got a friendly response! Still, I could have wished for better news.... but who knows. It's a crapshoot.

 

[buckeyebee]

Out of the ones the committee asked for, has everyone gotten notifications? Just wondering..or should I e-mail and ask if mine is under consideration? (I assume that is what you did buckeyebee)

No I didn't ask about that. I don't know if the committee asked for mine or not- I'm really confused about all of this, sorry I can't be more help! I just emailed them and asked if my LOI and letter of rec. had been received, and asked if it was possible to find out where on the waitlist I was.

 

[CruiseLover]

Any more news of movement?

 

[NotAnMD]

wait for it...bump

 

[IRV]

I got a call June 1st that I was accepted, and I was told that OSU is not getting as many withdrawls this cycle as it has in past years. This could be due to a jump in OSU's ranking in US News & World Report and/or stronger applicants. However, I would expect that OSU will still fill at least 1/3 of places from the deferred list (if not closer to the normal ~50%). Good luck to those still waiting!

 

[NotAnMD]

I got a call June 1st that I was accepted, and I was told that OSU is not getting as many withdrawls this cycle as it has in past years. This could be due to a jump in OSU's ranking in US News & World Report and/or stronger applicants. However, I would expect that OSU will still fill at least 1/3 of places from the deferred list (if not closer to the normal ~50%). Good luck to those still waiting!

1/3 would be great. I hope you're right.

 

[bodi]

1/3 would be great. I hope you're right.

Me too. I wonder how many people on SDN are anxiously watching this thread for any sign of movement? Every day I'm disappointed with no new news.

Today was even worse. My dentist office called this morning to remind me of an appointment. I never get phone calls... Talk about a big let-down!!

 

[Messerschmitts]

Me too. I wonder how many people on SDN are anxiously watching this thread for any sign of movement? Every day I'm disappointed with no new news.

Today was even worse. My dentist office called this morning to remind me of an appointment. I never get phone calls... Talk about a big let-down!!

Yup, still nuthin'!

 

[sub00]

Just wanted to let people there was at least one call in the past few days.... I received a call a couple days ago. I was really pleasantly surprised. OSU is a school I really want to go to! I just didn't know what was going on with the deferred pool.

I hope more of you get the wonderful phone call!! As for any information everyone may want to know, they said they really haven't made many phone calls accepting people from the deferred pool and that this year has been a little different than other years.

But who knows what the future holds, right?! Good Luck everyone!!! 👍

 

[bodi]

Any news yet?

 

[BlondieMD]

Getting sick of this waiting business...come on OSU...

 

[nigel]

I spoke with the office this morning. They have a short list of about 10 people and they will let you know if you're on it. Otherwise things aren't really moving, there was only one withdrawl this week. She said last year at this time they had gone through ~130 people from the deferred pool, this year they have only called ~18 people. Great for OSU, but sucky for us.

 

[bodi]

I spoke with the office this morning. They have a short list of about 10 people and they will let you know if you're on it. Otherwise things aren't really moving, there was only one withdrawl this week. She said last year at this time they had gone through ~130 people from the deferred pool, this year they have only called ~18 people. Great for OSU, but sucky for us.

Wow. That blows. When you say they will let you know if you're on the short list, I'm assuming you have to call and ask, right? Or are they sending emails to those lucky few?

 

[BlondieMD]

WOW. That is crazy ridiculous...is it wrong that I am still holding out hope?!

 

[Ilovelamp]

It feels like the more I read this thread, the less hope I have of actually getting the call. I also called the lady about my status and all I got was that the class is full and that my application is still under review. I wasn't told if I was on the shortlist. Should I call them and ask about it? God this is nervewracking. 🙁

 

[nigel]

I feel bad, like I brought some negative energy to this thread, but they were pretty clear about it this morning. It seems like you get a slightly different story depending on who you get on the phone. There definitely is a short list and they will tell you if you are on it when you call.

I wish I had better info, but I've resigned to reapplying for next year. Good luck everyone, especially those w/o any acceptances...

 

[Messerschmitts]

I spoke with the office this morning. They have a short list of about 10 people and they will let you know if you're on it. Otherwise things aren't really moving, there was only one withdrawl this week. She said last year at this time they had gone through ~130 people from the deferred pool, this year they have only called ~18 people. Great for OSU, but sucky for us.

You must be joking!! WTF! 130 vs. 18!!? Oh, evil day! Why is every year I apply the year waitlists don't move? 😛

 

[Llenroc]

I'm currently a student at OSU, and if I had to do it over again, I wouldn't have come here. The city is nice, but this school is not what's its cracked up to be. The teaching is subpar, and the administration is not the least bit helpful if you present them with questions or concerns. Last year's med 2 class came in with high MCATs and GPAs and they churned out a class that got below average board scores and 21 failures. They haven't accepted any responsibility for that or made any real changes to the cirriculum, only to blame the problem on "too many slackers in the class". At this point, I seriously think I might have been happier going to Cincinnati or even MCO/MUO.

Also there's not a whole lot of comraderie in the med school class. It's disjointed between two programs, and amongst either one, most students don't make a huge effort to get to know each other.

 

[Ilovelamp]

I called up admissions today and I was told I wasn't on the shortlist. The shortlist is now 8 people and they said they called two people off the shortlist last week. Oh and the waitlist is about 220 people. So yeah this sucks. They also told me to wait to reapply until after classes started.

 

[NotAnMD]

I'm currently a student at OSU, and if I had to do it over again, I wouldn't have come here. The city is nice, but this school is not what's its cracked up to be. The teaching is subpar, and the administration is not the least bit helpful if you present them with questions or concerns. Last year's med 2 class came in with high MCATs and GPAs and they churned out a class that got below average board scores and 21 failures. They haven't accepted any responsibility for that or made any real changes to the cirriculum, only to blame the problem on "too many slackers in the class". At this point, I seriously think I might have been happier going to Cincinnati or even MCO/MUO.

Also there's not a whole lot of comraderie in the med school class. It's disjointed between two programs, and amongst either one, most students don't make a huge effort to get to know each other.

Maybe this should make me feel better about the fact that I will never get off this freakin waitlist. But it probably won't.

 

[Ilovelamp]

Maybe this should make me feel better about the fact that I will never get off this freakin waitlist. But it probably won't.

It doesn't make me feel any better. At least he got into medical school. 🙁

 

[CruiseLover]

I'm currently a student at OSU, and if I had to do it over again, I wouldn't have come here. The city is nice, but this school is not what's its cracked up to be. The teaching is subpar, and the administration is not the least bit helpful if you present them with questions or concerns. Last year's med 2 class came in with high MCATs and GPAs and they churned out a class that got below average board scores and 21 failures. They haven't accepted any responsibility for that or made any real changes to the cirriculum, only to blame the problem on "too many slackers in the class". At this point, I seriously think I might have been happier going to Cincinnati or even MCO/MUO.

Also there's not a whole lot of comraderie in the med school class. It's disjointed between two programs, and amongst either one, most students don't make a huge effort to get to know each other.

This is the worst OSU report I have seen. I have always heard what a wonderful reputation this school has. My gut told me this was a wonderful school. Now I'm worried. Do you sometimes feel like you just don't know who to believe?

 

[ultimatekooda]

This is the worst OSU report I have seen. I have always heard what a wonderful reputation this school has. My gut told me this was a wonderful school.

Same here. I wouldn't worry too much about it, though. You know why you chose OSU and shouldn't be swayed by comments like that, although after such a negative post it's difficult. Clearly there are people like this at every school, and it's also hard to find a school where students have absolutely no complaints, whether it be about the curriculum, faculty, etc etc etc. No school is perfect. OSU is a great school, and I really think you'll get whatever you make out of your experience there.

 

[Messerschmitts]

Hmm...after interviews I loved OSU so much more than UCinn, and currently I'm accepted at UCinn but only waitlisted at OSU. I always said I'd definitely go to OSU over UCinn if I get in, but having waited so long (therefore getting a little used to the idea of having to attending UCinn) and reading comments like this about OSU does make me a bit confused and unsure about what I would do if OSU did offer me a spot off the waitlist...at this point I'd still probably take it, but it's still food for thought.

 

[NotAnMD]

BTW, 21 failures? That 10% of the class. That seems like a huge #.

Even still I would really like to go there. The admissions office told me yesterday that there is just nothing more to do but hope. I asked her how much she thought the list would eventually move and it seemed like 50 (give or take) was a reasonable estimate.

 

[nigel]

BTW, 21 failures? That 10% of the class. That seems like a huge #.

Even still I would really like to go there. The admissions office told me yesterday that there is just nothing more to do but hope. I asked her how much she thought the list would eventually move and it seemed like 50 (give or take) was a reasonable estimate.

10% seems like a big number. The step 1 passage rate I saw was 95% for OSU which was probably the previous year, so I guess it doubled for this class. This was also the first negative report I have heard from OSU, but the input is appreciated.

As for the waitlist, we can only wish 50 more get offered spots, but I have a hard time believing that. If they've only gone through 20 in the busiest month, don't see 50 really happening.

 

[sub00]

I'm currently a student at OSU, and if I had to do it over again, I wouldn't have come here. The city is nice, but this school is not what's its cracked up to be. The teaching is subpar, and the administration is not the least bit helpful if you present them with questions or concerns. Last year's med 2 class came in with high MCATs and GPAs and they churned out a class that got below average board scores and 21 failures. They haven't accepted any responsibility for that or made any real changes to the cirriculum, only to blame the problem on "too many slackers in the class". At this point, I seriously think I might have been happier going to Cincinnati or even MCO/MUO.

Also there's not a whole lot of comraderie in the med school class. It's disjointed between two programs, and amongst either one, most students don't make a huge effort to get to know each other.

I have to agree with what many people have said about this being the worst statement about OSU I have heard. While at OSU interviewing I spoke with quite a few students and none of them had any serious complaints. In fact, all of them were very enthusiastic about the school (quite different than several of the other schools I interviewed at).

Having reviewed the match list for OSU the past couple of years I have a very difficult time believing their curriculum is subpar. It makes me ask if perhaps you are one of the failures or if something has happened to make you take it personally. If so, I am sorry. I appreciate your opinion; however, I don't think it wise to fault a school completely off of a single opinion (including my own--which is probably biased since I was accepted at OSU).

Definitely, people have their unique needs and a school that meets those needs for one individual may be severely lacking in areas needed by another individual. In my opinion, the trick to being happy in med school is successfully identifying the aspects important to you as a person/student, finding and school that addresses those aspects, and getting in that school (The last part is kind of the most frustrating part....). If you don't get the right fit--you probably won't be completely happy. 😀

 

[Ilovelamp]

BTW, 21 failures? That 10% of the class. That seems like a huge #.

Even still I would really like to go there. The admissions office told me yesterday that there is just nothing more to do but hope. I asked her how much she thought the list would eventually move and it seemed like 50 (give or take) was a reasonable estimate.

If they call in 50 people, that would be great. That means each of us has about 25% chance of being called. Thats better than no chance at all.

 

[NotAnMD]

If they call in 50 people, that would be great. That means each of us has about 25% chance of being called. Thats better than no chance at all.

I agree. But something about being an out of state applicant in this scenario makes me feel pretty hopeless.

 

[Emergency!]

I'm currently a student at OSU, and if I had to do it over again, I wouldn't have come here. The city is nice, but this school is not what's its cracked up to be. The teaching is subpar, and the administration is not the least bit helpful if you present them with questions or concerns. Last year's med 2 class came in with high MCATs and GPAs and they churned out a class that got below average board scores and 21 failures. They haven't accepted any responsibility for that or made any real changes to the cirriculum, only to blame the problem on "too many slackers in the class". At this point, I seriously think I might have been happier going to Cincinnati or even MCO/MUO.

Also there's not a whole lot of comraderie in the med school class. It's disjointed between two programs, and amongst either one, most students don't make a huge effort to get to know each other.

So, in response to all the people who are now terrified to come to OSU based on this post, I feel compelled to respond.

Firstly, after talking to medical students at other schools, MOST medical students feel that the teaching is subpar and that the administration is unresponsive. I have talked to administration on numerous occasions and found them to be responsive to comments and concerns.

A typical complaint amongst medical students is that "nothing changes, even when administration listens to you". I felt this way, too, until having the opportunity this year to be a part of the site visit by the LCME (who accredits medical schools). It's not that change doesn't occur. It does occur - but medical schools are giant bureaucracies and if you've ever dealt with a bureaucracy, you know how long it can take to implement change. It's not as simple as "John Doe had a really great idea I think we should implement" and BAM! its done. Change requires surveys, evaluations, committee meetings, rewriting of policies and curriculums, approval of the changes, etc. The average medical student doesn't usually see any substantive changes resulting from their concerns/complaints because these changes often take more than a year to implement. Also, no matter what you do, you can't make everybody happy all of the time.

The large number of board failures is definitely a concern. I'm sure changes will be made, but again - is it in time for the current students to see them? Probably not. Keeping in mind that the final tally for board scores for that class wasn't complete until sometime in the fall, the current academic year was already underway. So, too late for substantial changes to be made for this academic year. I guarantee you, though, that changes are and will be made. Most students don't realize it, but a curriculum review for both pathways is currently in progress. As to whether or not it was the students or the curriculum . . . well - who knows. Suffice it to say that the administration was NOT happy with the results and IS looking into what needs to be done so that it doesn't happen again. I have talked with professors who have taught at OSU for many, many years who said that that particular class was one of the least academically inclined classes they had ever taught (didn't come to class, didn't study, didn't do well on class tests, etc). The more convincing evidence for me was talking to some of the STUDENTS in this class who said that most of the people that they knew who failed the boards didn't study hardly at all (for class OR the boards) and partied all the time.

As for students getting along and camaraderie - well, med school is a lot like high school. You're with the same people all the time (unlike college) and cliques tend to develop, rumors fly, etc. If you don't make an effort to get to know people early in the year and/or during anatomy, it can be tough to make friends because people have already established their "groups". This is not unique to OSU. As for the argument that the two programs is part of the problem there - I don't know about that. Yes, the IP people don't see a lot of the ISP people, but there are a fair amount of people in the IP pathway who never go to lecture and are not seen by their classmates any more than the ISP people are. We all still have PCM and PD together plus interest group meetings, workshops, etc.

You will never truly know what ANY school is like until you are a student there. No one can promise you that you will be happy at OSU and not feel like Llenroc does. At every school you will find students who question whether or not they would have been happier at another school. Its easy for me to say that I would have been happier at MUO (which WAS probably my top choice - I chose OSU for family reasons), but if I were at MUO I would find things there that I disliked as well. It's highly unlikely that you are going to love EVERYTHING about your chosen school. I doubt that Llenroc is the only OSU student who feels this way. But - if the vast majority of the students at a school are that unhappy, you can generally get that vibe during your interviews. I have things that I don't like about OSU as well, but nothing that would have made me decide to go elsewhere had I known.

Good luck to those of you on the waitlist. My advice - base your decision on where to go on how you felt during interviews and what will work out best for you in the future. DON'T come to OSU just because its higher ranked if you truly liked another school better. On the other hand, don't let comments from someone on an anonymous internet posting keep you from going there if you really liked it more than the other schools you were accepted to.

 

[Ilovelamp]

If they think they just let in a lazy class, then they should let more people like me in. Grades aren't great but I'm a hardworker. 😀 If only they read this.