OU vs Notre Dame

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red doctober said:
That's true, but as others have said, there seems to be a desire amongst the media to have ND be "back." Musburger and Herbstreit were hyping ND really hard last night and it seems that everyone else has followed suit. Everyone seems to have forgotten that they beat Purdue by 3, had to rally in the second half to top BYU, and beat Stanford with the help of a blown call in OT.
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No, exactly. And that BYU game was too close to be called anything but luck on ND's part. Definitely not something you'd expect from a "top 5" team.
 
CuttingCorneas said:
The problem is, they had a "defining" win against OU, giving them better NC chances. But the final score doesn't take into account that it should have been 30-27 at least.
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I'm sorry, what was the issue? The blatant holding that Mussberger made into a controversy because he was busier fellating the "Bell-dozer" instead of watching the damn field?

You know what? I bet people would be crowing that ND got a bull**** TD if it had been ND scoring on that overtime Stanford play. The guy was down. By progress, by elbow.

Get over it, ND haters. Keep making up reasons why our wins aren't wins. In the mean time, we have beaten UM, MSU, Stanford, Oklahoma, and good Miami/BYU teams.
 
calvnandhobbs68 said:
HAHAHA are you kidding me? I'll give you the exact moment on the espn highlight reel to watch:

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=323010201

About 50 seconds in or so.

It's an incredibly clear hold. They even circle it for you if you still quite can't make it out. Nobody disputed the hold, OU was just pissed that they took so long to throw the flag.

As for the second TD, whatever. It was a gimme TD anyway considering they had 4 plays to go a half yard. How about don't be an idiot and get an offensive pass interference call when you only have to move the ball half a yard.
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They showed multiple angles last night. The one they focused most on was definitely a shoulder. Maybe this one was a hold, but there was another one that they kept flipping back to, which was clearly not.

Like I said, I self-medicated last night as I was watching the trainwreck. It felt good.
 
calvnandhobbs68 said:
It's an incredibly clear hold. They even circle it for you if you still quite can't make it out. Nobody disputed the hold, OU was just pissed that they took so long to throw the flag..
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The flag was thrown immediately. Blame ABC's **** coverage for missing it.

Stoops looked like a whiny POS from the kickoff on last night, and his team looked equally rattled and undisciplined.
 
VisionaryTics said:
Get over it, ND haters. Keep making up reasons why our wins aren't wins. In the mean time, we have beaten UM, MSU, Stanford, Oklahoma, and good Miami/BYU teams.
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I would not call the last two "good."
 
Good teams find ways to win. A lot if these ND haters probably haven't watched many full Notre Dame games and haven't seen how resilient they are.
 
CuttingCorneas said:
I would not call the last two "good."
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Yes, they are clearly inferior to KSU's big-time wins like Missouri State, North Texas, Kansas, and Iowa State. Or Oregon's wins over Tennessee Tech, Fresno State, Arkansas State, Washington State, or Arizona State. Or Alabama's wins over Western Kentucky or Florida Atlantic.

BYU/Miami aren't great, but they're solid football teams. ND doesn't have a creampuff on the schedule.
 
calvnandhobbs68 said:
They totally broke down around the second half of the fourth quarter. ND should not have been able to run in that last TD so easily, the defense was just giving up after that interception. They were just pissed that they were getting beaten at home against a team they were supposed ti be favorites against.
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I'll agree that the last ten minutes were definitely a disintegration of sooner football. But the rest of the game certainly didn't help.
 
What did I tell y'all? Notre Dame is ahead of Oregon in the BCS standings now.
 
CuttingCorneas said:
Because ND beat a ranked team and Oregon did not. It doesn't mean one's inherently better than the other.
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I never said they were inherently better. I just said that after last night's win they would move ahead of Oregon in the BCS standings.
 
Irish Football said:
What did I tell y'all? Notre Dame is ahead of Oregon in the BCS standings now.
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If both stay undefeated, then Oregon will probably end up on top based on schedule. ND only edged Oregon by 0.001 in the BCS and Oregon has 3 ranked opponents left while ND only has 1

Sounds like a mess. When's that playoff start again?
 
sector9 said:
If both stay undefeated, then Oregon will probably end up on top based on schedule. ND only edged Oregon by 0.001 in the BCS and Oregon has 3 ranked opponents left while ND only has 1

Sounds like a mess. When's that playoff start again?
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You're probably right 🙁. And yeah, the playoff can't come soon enough! It would solve so many of these problems and arguments!
 
Ohhhhh!!!!! Tigers coming back folks! 2 - 1 bottom of the fifth.
 
Whoa whoa bros... I thought TCU was Big East??? Kansas State has to go through them.
 
ShenanigansMD said:
Whoa whoa bros... I thought TCU was Big East??? Kansas State has to go through them.
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K-state has games against Oklahoma State, Baylor, TCU, and Texas. While they are a good team, I can definitely seeing them losing one of those games.
 
Neurologic said:
Sorry about To$h, but I have a feeling you guys might get us back if Tedford is canned...I think Justin Wilcox is ready for head coaching and Cal would be a potential landing spot for him. Anyhow, looking forward to the game Friday night!

As for that Pitt-Irish game...I'm not feeling quite as enthusiastic.
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Tedford is a *****.
 
Irish Football said:
K-state has games against Oklahoma State, Baylor, TCU, and Texas. While they are a good team, I can definitely seeing them losing one of those games.
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I agree. Very unlikely that the top 4 teams all remain undefeated.
 
Why didn't my undergrad have a football team. I want to be in on the conversation too. 🙁

Can't we discuss NFL instead?
 
To update: I will eat my words. I did not expect ND to go undefeated during the regular season. I expected their biggest challenge was to come from USC and not Pitt (one short field goal in OT to put ND at 11-1 and out of the NCG picture) although from watching them, they definitely play down to weaker opponents and step up against better teams. I think that ND deserves to be in the championship game although I do not consider them to be the best (or even second best) team in the country. Good luck to ND in hopefully dethroning the SEC from their 6-year championship streak.
 
red doctober said:
To update: I will eat my words. I did not expect ND to go undefeated during the regular season. I expected their biggest challenge was to come from USC and not Pitt (one short field goal in OT to put ND at 11-1 and out of the NCG picture) although from watching them, they definitely play down to weaker opponents and step up against better teams. I think that ND deserves to be in the championship game although I do not consider them to be the best (or even second best) team in the country. Good luck to ND in hopefully dethroning the SEC from their 6-year championship streak.
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👍👍
 
I hope ND will at least make a game out of it against the SEC counterpart.
 
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