Over 500 Ross/SGU grads per year without GME spots?

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This article http://chronicle.com/article/Students-From-Caribbean-Med/125681/ says that:

Last year, St. George's graduated 640, and Ross University School of Medicine, in Dominica, graduated 754. That compares with an average class size in New York medical schools of about 120.

This article http://www.rheumatology.org/educati...es/Funding_for_Graduate_Medical_Education.pdf
page 26 says that 451 ross and 426 sgu students got gme spots in total (through match/pre-match/scramble, etc).

This would indicate that roughly 300 ross graduates and roughly 200 sgu graduates do not get gme spots per year.

What happens to these graduates who do not get gme spots?
 
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The first article is current. The second quotes numbers from 2007. That might be part of the difference. The GME census published in JAMA every year does not include a breakdown of IMG's by country.

Also, not everyone from SGU comes to the US for training. Many apparently train in the UK and/or other countries.
 
another point to make is that some get a prematch offer and don't go through the match. what's reported is only the numbers that go through the match. everything else is unknown. so the number of people not getting a residency is smaller than the ones you mentioned but people still ended up without residencies, or they're only able to secure a one year residency in the scramble. If you can't get a residency then you can do research, you can tutor, or you can find another job somehwere outside the medical feild. people usually reapply the following year but unless you beef up your application during that year your chance of matching decreases every year.
 
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another point to make is that some get a prematch offer and don't go through the match. what's reported is only the numbers that go through the match. everything else is unknown. so the number of people not getting a residency is smaller than the ones you mentioned but people still ended up without residencies, or they're only able to secure a one year residency in the scramble. If you can't get a residency then you can do research, you can tutor, or you can find another job somehwere outside the medical feild. people usually reapply the following year but unless you beef up your application during that year your chance of matching decreases every year.

The data on all GME entrants is from the AMA Masterfile and includes prematches.

The first article is current. The second quotes numbers from 2007. That might be part of the difference. The GME census published in JAMA every year does not include a breakdown of IMG's by country.

Also, not everyone from SGU comes to the US for training. Many apparently train in the UK and/or other countries.

My understanding is that Ross and SGU had similar numbers of graduates in 2007 and 2010 and that their has not been a large change in the number of graduates from each school in the past 3 years. Do you have any information that differs on this?

If you calculate percentages based on the above numbers you get a ballpark figures of about 60% of Ross graduates and 67% of SGU getting into a US residency program.
 
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This article http://chronicle.com/article/Students-From-Caribbean-Med/125681/ says that:

Last year, St. George's graduated 640, and Ross University School of Medicine, in Dominica, graduated 754. That compares with an average class size in New York medical schools of about 120.

This article http://www.rheumatology.org/educati...es/Funding_for_Graduate_Medical_Education.pdf
page 26 says that 451 ross and 426 sgu students got gme spots in total (through match/pre-match/scramble, etc).

This would indicate that roughly 300 ross graduates and roughly 200 sgu graduates do not get gme spots per year.

What happens to these graduates who do not get gme spots?

Of the 640 SGU graduates, only 70 percent are from the US, the rest from other countries.