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Since my friends and I have been getting services from the P.A.S.S. Program for the last few years, I feel it important to share some warnings with you that will keep you out of harm's way, save you the most money possible while still get a high-yield study experience for you. I went there because it appeared that I would have great Christian environment that had my best interests in mind but religion is the last priority this place has, your money is the first. I searched this topic and saw many questions but no in-depth answers after going through pages of them, so I took a lot of time to try and answer them below. This is not a troll and there is NO proprietary information shared since ALL of it comes from other sources readily available on the Internet.

First and foremost the place really doesn't care about you, it's your money that they will go after every hour of every day and their goal is to get $15,000 from everyone that walks through their door, and they're perfectly fine with 'only' making an 8-week student out of you that can get them at least $10,000 if you think you were only going to stay for the original 4 weeks or that $15,000 if you planned on only staying for 8. If you are from a Caribbean or Dominican school, you pay half price for everything and the people making up the difference is the U.S. and Canadian students. Nothing you can do about it, but you should know why only a small percent of the students and tutors are U.S. students anymore...Ask to see the amounts of the charitable donations vs. their profits and you'll see that very little of the tuition or the Breaking the Boards series actually goes to the charities, so don't think you're doing anyone a favor by donating more and more money to them while you're there; the car show callously parked outside is what you're paying for.

The course itself is made up of a few components:
1. The teachers: For the Champaign headquarters, Dr. Francis is an outstanding and knowledgeable teacher. Make sure you are at his side as much as possible for the duration of the stay in Champaign because he doesn't teach much more than half the course, which is a tragedy for those that came specifically to learn from him. Dr. Le has taken over most of the teaching responsibilities and while she is brilliant, she will browbeat and embarrass you in class, to the point that people stop going to the classes they paid for and go back to watching the bootleg videos they've had for years. If you still want to go there the best advice is to buy skin-tone earplugs to wear during class and get as many of her study packets as you can. If you have dates in mind to attend the course, have them send you a teaching schedule with how much of the teaching will be done by he vs. she.
For the Florida office: Dr. Wolf is the head instructor there but I can't say much about him because nobody seems to be able to find him after the first week. A minimum-wage tutor or another person that has never actually practiced medicine ends up teaching a lot of the class, just like in Champaign!

2. Tutoring: You'd think you'd be getting taught medicine in your weakest areas, but most of the tutors barely finished their first or second years of medical school and are on some sort of extended vacation from their school while waiting to take Step 1 while a few are working on Step 2. The medical instruction, therefore, is minimal. They focus; instead, on making sure you adhere to the test taking mantra they instill in you that is borrowed, mostly, from Kaplan and a basic test-taking skills course offered at most community colleges. The technique does tend to improve your performance on exams so just make sure you buy a U-World account then do 25 questions at a time doing the following for every one of them:
1. Cover the answers with the U-World calculator or the Windows Notepad or Calculator.
2. Read the question at the end, if it seems to involve a lot of physiology, management or extended 3rd order thinking, ask yourself "What's the concept they want to test me on?" If it just wants a diagnosis question, they want you to find the clue to get the answer below.
3. Read the vignette actively looking for the concept or clue and highlight anything that is relevant and formulate your answer from those highlighted items.
4. Only after you have your best guess solidified, start eliminating the answers from the last answer upward, don't ever pick 'A' unless you're absolutely certain that's the answer because it rarely ever is. If you don't have (literally) a clue, eliminate as many answers as possible and pick the last of the ones that are left.

They charge almost $200/hour for this tutoring, which may be on par with Kaplan but Kaplan pays their tutors at least triple what the PASS tutors get paid ($10/hour vs. $30-$40/hour) so only the ones that feel an intense loyalty to the place are staying, the best tutors are rarely there for long or are already on their way out. This is one example of PASS exploiting the students and their tutors to make every last penny for themselves. I can't imagine working so hard for less than the person making my $5 coffee for me at Starbucks; eventually it's got to get to the students they suckered into tutoring and that's what you'll be buying into when you extend your stay.

Materials: You get a folder with the PowerPoint’s for all of the lectures and a blue book which has summaries of all the lecture high-points and the infamous "P.A.S.S. Program Clues" which are a rehash of the Med Student Amnesia doc and Boards and Wards. The materials you get and anything the instructors project in front of you have to be some of the lowest quality, most error-ridden junk I've ever paid thousands of dollars for. If you're trying to avoid spending the money to attend a PASS course, buy the Blue "Dissecting USMLE" and the "Breaking the Boards" books (the fully corrected versions of what all the lectures are,) and memorize the clues in the blue book then drill back and forth with as many friends as you can find to do it and you can avoid spending thousands more to be read the WRONG information in class. You know it's bad when the director of the program with 10 years of experience needs to get a medical student to correct his materials properly! Pdf files of all of these are floating around for free and anyone who's attended the course has them, whether they admit it or not.

Housing: P.A.S.S. gets you the lowest rent, Section 8 housing full of thugs that always are breaking into someone's car for the iPods or laptops that students often leave in their car. There is unarmed security 3 nights a week, but they're always at the gate and the dealers in the Champaign area meet with the main one on nights when security isn't there. If you see anyone with dreadlocks walking around or too old to be on a skateboard, they are likely to be armed and going to the main dealer, which is the first building on the left (go through there and you'll smell which apartment to go to to buy some recreational drugs) when you come to the P.A.S.S. side of the complex. If you have pepper-spray, make sure you take the safety off before you leave the P.A.S.S. lot to walk or drive home.
The apartments are always occupied by P.A.S.S. students so that's their excuse for never really cleaning them. The carpets are sticky, crackle under your feet and hold all sorts of diseases but no amount of requests will make them clean them; not that you should have to ask them to. Your comforter was NOT cleaned after the last person so wash it in hot with everything you can get to kill the last person's germs that are embedded in there. There is also a 50/50 chance that your AC unit isn't working right and they won't get it working without many requests and having them replace the Freon in it practically requires Dr. Francis and the mayor to sign for it. That maintenance request you have the first day should be thoroughly filled out if any of the above are going on and give the front desk a daily update as to if anyone has stopped by to work on it.

For all of this, P.A.S.S. charges you almost TRIPLE what your non-P.A.S.S. neighbors pay to live there! The Village charges them $300/month per room and they charge you $700+. Remember how I mentioned that they will exploit students and tutors that live there to make money off of them??? If you absolutely have to attend a P.A.S.S. Program session, use Craigslist to find one of many sublets that are out there any time of year that are much safer and cost-effective. If you don't want to pay to rent a car, drive your own down there, pay a taxi around $12 each way from downtown or stay at the much safer Candlewood Suites or Extended Stay's that you can still walk from. You can get a 'deal' at those 2 places for around $1200/month if you absolutely have to stay within walking distance. If you want to risk it, at least save some money and ask them for the "2 month P.A.S.S. Program rental" which costs for 2 months slightly more than P.A.S.S. charges you for one month.
http://www.uvchampaign.com/floor.php?UTypeID=26502
http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/IL-Champaign-University-Village-at-Champaign-1412481.html

The Game: When you come in, you're put under stress when you first check in and there are a bunch of things wrong with your apartment. Starting the next day, you are stressed every morning at 6:30AM when you do questions in the classroom before the lectures start then keep going through the day, fighting to stay awake in case you get called on. If it's a basic answer that may even be on the board, know that he caught you dozing off and he'll be on your case again for a while. Too bad you can't even see the board because his brother, V-Tini, wouldn't spend the small extra money to get a 10,000 lumen projector with 10,000 to 1 contrast (this took me less than 15 minutes to find with Google and I'm not anywhere near technically inclined) needed to fight through that horrible room lighting.

Just when you're tired of muddling through the crappy notes in the folder, they offer the "Breaking the Boards" books and most people bought it since they were already so fed up with the notes. Again, pdfs and recordings of this and the PP Clues are available for free if you quietly ask around; they actually used to be free or very little cost before V-Tini took over. They will make you feel like you absolutely have to stay if you want to pass your exam. You can read their materials over and over again, do drills by Skype with anyone that can read English and tell you what you missed, do U World questions and take an NBME every 3 weeks on your own and without spending a penny with P.A.S.S. P.A.S.S. knows that many schools send students to P.A.S.S. against their will and those are the ones they snare immediately into their 8-week program. If you're in that situation, try and negotiate this with your school before this place gets thousands more dollars from you. Even the privilege of staying in the building really isn't one, it's even more run down than the village apartments and people still sneak around after 10PM until the cleaning crew is gone so it's unsafe for you to even leave your room.

I hope this helps someone before it's too late and bless all of you on this incredible journey.
 
By request, I have added a few things to this thread:

1. P.A.S.S. is only concerned about getting as much of your money as possible
2. The Caribbean, Dominican and Puerto Rican students pay half as much as the U.S. and Canadian students and that's why you see so many $100K SUVs parked out front with Florida and Ontario tags. This money goes into buying Dr. Francis' and V-Tini's cars parked out front.
3. Dr. Francis doesn't teach as much of the course as he used to and Dr. Le and the other people who have never cared for a real patient are teaching you how to do just that and the results aren't pretty.
4. The Florida office sucks much worse but charges the same money.
5. Use the 5-step method on your own and without a babysitter that you pay $200/hour to. The tutors aren't there to care, they're there to make P.A.S.S money.
6. Most of the materials they give you are horrible. Get as many as possible off of torrents and from others that attended the class. If you're desperate, buy them off of amazon.com or lulu.com, the Breaking the Boards series being your highest priority. Skype the materials with a large group of peers, one at a time and you'll be fine.
7. Don't live in P.A.S.S. housing unless you have to and if you do, carry a self-defense device as you will be accosted by a drug-dealer sometime during your stay.
8. Realize that many P.A.S.S. students "pair up" for stress relief and that often includes drugs and alcohol, so know what your limits are before you get there.
9. V-Tini and his staff are your enemy while you're there and the less interaction with them, the better off you will be mentally and financially. These are the penalties you will pay, even if your school is paying for the program. Kaplan MedEssentials books and Falcon are a much better bet for your success than this place.
 
trust me. most people who frequent sdn aren't dumb enough to pay 200 per hour for some unknown program when Kaplan programs exist for a much cheaper price even though imo kaplan is ridiculously expensive as well
 
All you need is FA, Uworld, Pathoma and may be BRS with some DIT.
I totally agree and will say that I prefer some of the Kaplan materials more and DIT less, but the tried and true FA, UW, and Pathoma trifecta will cost far less and make you much more productive with your time than with a P.A.S.S or Kaplan course. Falcon has Goljan, but is the only one I would recommend for those that absolutely have to have their auditory learning style catered to. I will also agree that most SDN people would not go to P.A.S.S. even if it was free, but there have been so many questions posted about it over the years that I hope this pulls the rest that were on the fence about it way off into safety with the rest of this community. From what I've heard, getting in the 90th percentile on Step 1 will put you in a great position for an interview, you don't absolutely have to have a 99, so take some time out to hit a comedy club or a nice restaurant when you feel stressed. Now that's money well spent 🙂
 
I totally agree and will say that I prefer some of the Kaplan materials more and DIT less, but the tried and true FA, UW, and Pathoma trifecta will cost far less and make you much more productive with your time than with a P.A.S.S or Kaplan course. Falcon has Goljan, but is the only one I would recommend for those that absolutely have to have their auditory learning style catered to. I will also agree that most SDN people would not go to P.A.S.S. even if it was free, but there have been so many questions posted about it over the years that I hope this pulls the rest that were on the fence about it way off into safety with the rest of this community. From what I've heard, getting in the 90th percentile on Step 1 will put you in a great position for an interview, you don't absolutely have to have a 99, so take some time out to hit a comedy club or a nice restaurant when you feel stressed. Now that's money well spent 🙂
I keep getting asked about this in PM's, so here is my take on what to do for your exams:

Step 1: Pathoma along with its respective book, the latest Kaplan MedEssentials as well as a 6 month subscription or more to UWorld will help you with your NATIONAL shelf exams and get you ready for the Step with a good chance of passing in the 80th percentile or above depending upon how many times you can go through them. Get the PASS Program Clues for free on FlashCardExchange.com and Quizlet.com and know them by heart. PP Clues, Clues, PASS or any derivation of the above and a particular exam subject should be enough to find the good stuff.

Step 2: Master the Step 1 stuff one more time, buy UWorld for Step 2 and add the latest Master the Boards series from Conrad Fisher for the Step 2 and Step 3. These two books are what every person that had passed Step 1 was studying, so I'd say they were a good bet. In fact, if Dr. Fisher sneezes on a tissue or one of his flash card sets and throws it in the trash, there probably is some high yield information on it, so dig it out and study that too.

If you are an IMG/FMG or DO:
The reason these students are grouped together is for a few reasons.
1. Your schools trade the exact same group of instructors between yourselves and Kaplan that are only at your school for 2-5 years and the minute the school finds out how bad some of them are, they just jump to another school and start over. For this reason, none of them keeps up on the almost monthly changes to the exam style or content for any of the exams you must take. They actually end up writing exams for their classes that have nothing to do with the Licensing exams, so preparing for your SCHOOL'S Shelf exams will actually UN-prepare you for your Step and COMLEX exams.

2. The exams, especially the COMLEX, have been written to punish anything from First Aid or DIT being studied, so stay far away from them. If you've got to use them because you've been forced to, do USMLERx in your spare time and only use First Aid to go back to if they reference it.

3. You're best bet at a good U.S. residency is an observership or audition rotation at an IMG/FMG friendly hospital and many of them are DO hospitals or have MD/DO Programs in the midwest, so the more you learn about being a great DO, the better chance you have of being hired there later on. For this reason, study the latest "Handbook of OMT Review" by Dolinski and do the COMBANK qBank to familiarize yourself with this material.

4. The base material has already been outlined above, so your command of the obscure and ridiculous must be perfect to score well on these exams, again and especially for the COMLEX. Step up to Medicine, MKSAP for the IM Boards (NOT the one for medical students), COMBANK and the PASS clues will help you the most here.

There have been enough percentages and scores posted on SDN to fill up 10 forums in 8 languages, so lets look at it a different way. Once you've mastered the material as above, you must then overcome any test-taking issues with no less than an experienced Psychiatrist. The short answer with the highest yield on test day is Xanax and Adderall if you think anything less than 75% of the people taking the test around you don't have one or both running through their system, you are sadly mistaken. Get a legit Rx for them so you don't endanger your license and titrate to what the best balance is for you in cognitive function and calm mind during the exam.

Above all, please stop talking about suing your schools or the AMA/AOA/NBME/NBOME over how bad your exams have gotten; they don't care and they will ruin your career. The only person that has any power to do anything to help you that actually will is the Secretary of Education and his/her Inspector General, so get the ball rolling on contacting their staff if you really want to see what your options are.

Good luck to all of you!
 
I keep getting asked about this in PM's, so here is my take on what to do for your exams:

Step 1: Pathoma along with its respective book, the latest Kaplan MedEssentials as well as a 6 month subscription or more to UWorld will help you with your NATIONAL shelf exams and get you ready for the Step with a good chance of passing in the 80th percentile or above depending upon how many times you can go through them. Get the PASS Program Clues for free on FlashCardExchange.com and Quizlet.com and know them by heart. PP Clues, Clues, PASS or any derivation of the above and a particular exam subject should be enough to find the good stuff.

Step 2: Master the Step 1 stuff one more time, buy UWorld for Step 2 and add the latest Master the Boards series from Conrad Fisher for the Step 2 and Step 3. These two books are what every person that had passed Step 1 was studying, so I'd say they were a good bet. In fact, if Dr. Fisher sneezes on a tissue or one of his flash card sets and throws it in the trash, there probably is some high yield information on it, so dig it out and study that too.

If you are an IMG/FMG or DO:
The reason these students are grouped together is for a few reasons.
1. Your schools trade the exact same group of instructors between yourselves and Kaplan that are only at your school for 2-5 years and the minute the school finds out how bad some of them are, they just jump to another school and start over. For this reason, none of them keeps up on the almost monthly changes to the exam style or content for any of the exams you must take. They actually end up writing exams for their classes that have nothing to do with the Licensing exams, so preparing for your SCHOOL'S Shelf exams will actually UN-prepare you for your Step and COMLEX exams.

2. The exams, especially the COMLEX, have been written to punish anything from First Aid or DIT being studied, so stay far away from them. If you've got to use them because you've been forced to, do USMLERx in your spare time and only use First Aid to go back to if they reference it.

3. You're best bet at a good U.S. residency is an observership or audition rotation at an IMG/FMG friendly hospital and many of them are DO hospitals or have MD/DO Programs in the midwest, so the more you learn about being a great DO, the better chance you have of being hired there later on. For this reason, study the latest "Handbook of OMT Review" by Dolinski and do the COMBANK qBank to familiarize yourself with this material.

4. The base material has already been outlined above, so your command of the obscure and ridiculous must be perfect to score well on these exams, again and especially for the COMLEX. Step up to Medicine, MKSAP for the IM Boards (NOT the one for medical students), COMBANK and the PASS clues will help you the most here.

There have been enough percentages and scores posted on SDN to fill up 10 forums in 8 languages, so lets look at it a different way. Once you've mastered the material as above, you must then overcome any test-taking issues with no less than an experienced Psychiatrist. The short answer with the highest yield on test day is Xanax and Adderall if you think anything less than 75% of the people taking the test around you don't have one or both running through their system, you are sadly mistaken. Get a legit Rx for them so you don't endanger your license and titrate to what the best balance is for you in cognitive function and calm mind during the exam.

Above all, please stop talking about suing your schools or the AMA/AOA/NBME/NBOME over how bad your exams have gotten; they don't care and they will ruin your career. The only person that has any power to do anything to help you that actually will is the Secretary of Education and his/her Inspector General, so get the ball rolling on contacting their staff if you really want to see what your options are.

Good luck to all of you!

Good username to post correlation...I would put this up as some of the worst board advice I have read on SDN...and as a DO student you should keep your mouth shut when it comes to our boards and school programs, you dont know what you are talking about. FYI Goljan teaches at OSU, a wait for it..DO school. I think the fact that you paid 10-15k (f***ing serious?) for "Christian" board review invalidates anything you have to say.
 
I dont know about the advice about the board review program, which btw I dont know who in there right mind would pay for, this has got to be one of the most misinformed posts on SDN to date. Just hope people realize that.
 
Good username to post correlation...I would put this up as some of the worst board advice I have read on SDN...and as a DO student you should keep your mouth shut when it comes to our boards and school programs, you dont know what you are talking about. FYI Goljan teaches at OSU, a wait for it..DO school. I think the fact that you paid 10-15k (f***ing serious?) for "Christian" board review invalidates anything you have to say.
Teachers:

Goljan: Great teacher that is still at the top of his game and teaches for Falcon and OSU, one of the most respected DO schools out there. His classes and materials are golden and often expensive and the most stolen.

Fisher: Incredible MIND that will keep you engaged with the material that he keeps the entire Kaplan Medical program he's in charge of alive with. He also teaches at a one of the newer DO schools, NYCOM; one of the few schools in the area already carrying itself well enough to be able to take on the other schools placing MS3/4 in NYC that have paid off hospitals to take only their students. His classes and materials are also golden and much of it has new editions out this year and improve greatly on items released even in the last 2 years. Kaplan, as we all know, is horribly expensive.

Sattar: Provides Pathology review through his Pathoma series in the most accessible format; PowerPoint with great histology slides and clear voice-overs that one can access from almost anywhere for around $100. If you could gold-plate this guy's white-board sessions, you still won't touch the value of them and he practically gives his program away for nothing. Limits on lecture views are far more reasonable than other programs and often are reset for you if you don't abuse the system.

Francis: One of the greatest people ever to teach medicine to all levels, unfortunately that is saddled with an entirely corrupt school that lost its way years ago. I paid not even a fraction of what others paid to attend the course there, but I got tired of watching others get robbed literally and figuratively at the place and letting other potential customers know this was the intent of the first post.

DIT's Jenkins: How many posters have you seen that did DIT and/or used FA/SU2S2 and didn't get the results they wanted? There is a new post almost every single day about this on SDN, you have to accept there must be a fundamental flaw with one or both parts of this combination. You can have a study partner call you 10 minutes before you're supposed to start studying and 10 minutes after you're supposed to stop every day if you really need a method to maintain focus. I bet you won't even spend $7, definitely nowhere near $700, especially if you use Skype. Have your friend ask you what topics you studied that day, what you found the most interesting, what lunch was like and how the afternoon went then quiz you on a few things for a while and you'll be shocked at the results without listening to that famous DIT-J 'remixed' voice butcher the material.

Search SDN as I did about any of the above if you have an issue. Heck, hit the back button right now and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Schools:
If you want to research the CVs of instructors at SGU, Ross, AUC, or MCU against those of the DO schools that have opened up in the last few years for yourself, please do so then see if they've ever worked for Kaplan or any of the other major review programs. I'm not going to haggle over that since the proof is out there, from Assistant Professors all the way up to the Deans. I hope I've helped some people increase their chance of passing these tests with my posts but feel free to disregard them entirely if you take the time to talk to some residents about the licensing process in general, your exam specifically, and call up any DO school you like and tell them you're interested if any of their faculty has taught for a major review program before. It's a great selling point and they'll have no problem telling you how many of their people have done so.

I'm giving you feedback as to the FOCUS of the teaching, not the QUALITY of it, although some faculty at any school has its issues no matter where you go. This revolving door policy is also why the COMLEX gets worse every year, a new chair/VP/chief for each division every few months (they don't announce all of the changes publicly.) The result: DOs are unofficially locked out of a lot of residency spots and now officially locked out if you aren't a part of certain programs from day one. The AOA will let MD graduates into their programs in the next few years or risk being officially locked out from the rest of the MD programs so please get your priorities straight. Resolutions 24, 42 and H-206 are where your time should be spent, not on these boards.

By the way, DO schools are a GREAT choice for medical practice, I encourage people to get the most out of it and am passing down information I was made aware of from my upper-classmen to you. Do you really think that performing OMM on your attendings and nurses while explaining the anatomy to them has no bearing on being hired somewhere, no matter how or where you learned it? Ultimately, if you're not trying to get an observership or are having no problem with that and the whole J1 vs. H1b visa paperwork shuffle, please disregard that bit of advice as it's not meant for you. I remember having lunch with some of you that had been away from your families in your home countries for over a year and still were having little luck getting hired and brainstorming over how to get through the system and wish you continued luck and hope to help you in the future.

The second post is also to help those that prep programs, especially PASS, prey upon and give them some advice that really works. Please feel free to disregard anything in the posts, I won't be offended at all, but don't make personal attacks against me or religion while you do so. Dr. Francis just seemed to be so devoutly religious in the old videos I had the opportunity to watch, so I thought that I would get my money's worth out of a place that emphasizes those same values. The reality, however, was about the same or more sex, drugs and rock n' roll as any other prep course. I have never felt as large a need to post as I did when I saw what was happening to people I cared about in front of my eyes and I hope that this causes more good than flames and that's all I can do. The people taking issue with this set of posts appear to be new members as well, so please take that into account when you decide whose experience you should consider.

If you're logged in to SDN, it's very easy to research the Statistics of their previous posts and I applaud their hard work because, in the few years as I've been in medical education, I've never seen that fierce a set of opinions shot at people in that high a number of posts in as many forums in as short a time. You must be really motivated to finish rounding on all of your patients, prepare for morning report and post during one of your few minutes of down-time on such a regular basis because I sure am not. There is a button next to the one I used to show all posts for certain users that allows you to IGNORE all posts by a certain user, do with it what you feel is best and move on.
 
Humor me. How many DO schools are there in the country? Now, how many opened up in the past few years? Perhaps you wouldn't have been greeted by so many disagreeing posts if you had specified your statements instead of making sweeping generalizations that leave you vulnerable to the charge of ignorance. Don't expect to insult posters' schools and education and not get a reply. My DO school is nothing like what you describe and the vast majority of our faculty have been a part of the institution for years, if not decades.

Cop-out.

Curious -- have you ever even taken the COMLEX? And if not, how would you possibly know that it "gets worse every year"?

Humor me again. Which programs are DOs "officially locked out" of if they aren't a part of certain programs from day one? Surely you're not referring to talk of residency programs allowing ACGME residency grads into fellowships, because if you were, I'm confident that you would have understood the underpinnings of the discussion and wouldn't have made such an inflammatory statement that implies something that is untrue.

Thank you, Genie. I woke up this morning wondering if I could get advice from an anonymous poster on a message board as to how I should be spending my time.

The fact that you lumped this in with talk of DO schools makes me think you're either unaware of the rules of proper composition or you're incredibly misinformed on DO education in the United States.

I've been posting since February 2012 and have logged 57 posts. You, on the other hand, have been posting since July 2012 (this very month) and have logged 5 posts, all of which are brimming with bitterness toward a company you claim employed you at one time. There's a pot-kettle analogy here that applies.

By the way, if everything you say about PASS is true, why did you remain a silent witness until now to the acts you claim are so reprehensible?

Blanket statements go both ways, it looks like you're one of the few that has seen these posts and has objected, that was bound to happen some time. The information is out there, I've just summarized many posts by other people on SDN and added my own personal experience in an effort to help others. If the information seems foreign to you or entirely without truth, you have a right to your opinion and that is all. I've never been or intend to be employed by the P.A.S.S. Program, nor do I intend to disclose anything else due to the nature of the business we're in. If you don't believe me, Google anything I've said and you'll find out the truth, it seems like you're used to being spoon-fed information, let someone else holster it. I've seen your 57 posts and that is one reason I paid little attention to them and what you said today. I just offer a few corrections and encourage you to use your time to better yourself and your profession.
Have a productive week in your rotations and don't forget to sign your note; they hate when that happens.:beat:
 
I'm glad you said that you paid little attention to my post because for a moment there, I thought you had serious comprehension issues ("used to being spoon-fed information"? LOL, yeah, I'm sure most reasonable people took that from my post). To take what I said and somehow convert it into my skepticism regarding the PASS program, a program I know next to nothing about, shows everything I said went over your head. My objections had nothing to do with PASS. My objections were in regards to your ignorant statements regarding osteopathic education, a subject about which you've proved you know absolutely nothing. Don't take the silence of others as confirmation of your posts. Most likely, they didn't click on the thread because most don't care about PASS or they don't bother arguing with posters who can't be bothered to read posts to which they reply.

I agree. I am a DO student. OPs first post regarding DOs was quite misinformed. Not a good look, bro.
 
My bet is the few out of 1200+ looks that are objecting to these posts are either sitting in the PASS computer lab pondering how else they could have spent there money, or off-duty and bored enough to troll through and do the usual "Waah, Link to W?? Waah,""Waah, you're intellect sucks because of X" or "Waah, your English is poor because of Y" and possibly "Waah, nobody else said Z, but they're all thinking it, so shame on you," etc. At least if you're going to do the same things as have been said on SDN thousands of times before, maybe try and change the font or something. You also could offer your own information to help out others, but that seems highly unlikely at this point. I hope you do well in your studies but if I find you backed up against some wall with your head in your hands, sidebent left and rotated right, I'll still reach out my hand to help you and maybe have an entirely different type of conversation, until then, controversial discussions will always be there, let's keep this one academic and adult.
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My bet is the few out of 1200+ looks that are objecting to these posts are either sitting in the PASS computer lab pondering how else they could have spent there money, or off-duty and bored enough to troll through and do the usual "Waah, Link to W?? Waah,""Waah, you're intellect sucks because of X" or "Waah, your English is poor because of Y" and possibly "Waah, nobody else said Z, but they're all thinking it, so shame on you," etc.

controversial discussions will always be there, let's keep this one academic and adult

Astonishing. Simply astonishing.
 
Now that things have calmed down a bit, has anyone else gone to the PASS Program and had similar experiences? I see that quite a few people have passed through, but would like to know if any of them would like to share for the benefit of other members.
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I know it's been a while and a few more groups have gone through. Anyone else want to chime in on this one, especially those that were there for more than a month?😳
 
This is so disheartening to read. I just signed up for this pass program because I keep failing my step 1. I have until April to take my third chance. I really need a miracle to raise my score 30 points. I dont understand what I'm doing wrong. after my first attempt, i read first aid more like 4x, including kaplan notes and videos. Did Dit and did UW questions (timed tutor) did the ones I marked again. Still failed.

I considered Pass or Kaplan review course because this whole time I have been on my own doing this stuff but I think I need some kind of intervention with a course. My NBME scores were low but I took the last one a month before my 2nd attempt. It is now mid Jan and I have to retake Step 1 (last chance) in April.

What are your thoughts?
 
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UWorld is usually a good bet and that's what the PASS Program uses to monitor your progress anyways, so writing out notes from each of the questions may be one way to make the information stick. It may sound lame, but keep going through UW until you've got the questions memorized so well that you know the question and answer explanation the minute you see them. Stop using First Aid, since it doesn't seem to be helping you. Use the break down from UW to see what subjects you're missing the most, then focus your main studying on those areas.
Good luck.
 
I just unpacked at the "PASS South" (St. Augustine FL) Statford Mill apartment complex and will be starting their 8-week course tomorrow morning. Not sure how much time this whole "Board studying" thing will eat up, but I could try to give everyone more information about the program as/after I go through it (time-permitting)?

So far I've only been inside the building and met with the receptionist. The apartments are in a gated community, half a mile from a large outlet mall; the complex clubhouse includes a game room, outdoor pool, tanning beds, and well-equipped fitness center. (Feels like a retirement home for the cast of Jersey Shore.) Apartments are prestocked by PASS with everything except bath towels-- toaster, blender, fridge, microwave, dishwasher and even private washer/dryer units.
 
I just unpacked at the "PASS South" (St. Augustine FL) Statford Mill apartment complex and will be starting their 8-week course tomorrow morning. Not sure how much time this whole "Board studying" thing will eat up, but I could try to give everyone more information about the program as/after I go through it (time-permitting)?

So far I've only been inside the building and met with the receptionist. The apartments are in a gated community, half a mile from a large outlet mall; the complex clubhouse includes a game room, outdoor pool, tanning beds, and well-equipped fitness center. (Feels like a retirement home for the cast of Jersey Shore.) Apartments are prestocked by PASS with everything except bath towels-- toaster, blender, fridge, microwave, dishwasher and even private washer/dryer units.

I am considering going to Pass SOUTH in July 2013. How did this work out for you !? Was it worth it ?
 
Alright, so I've been to the PASS program
I totally agree and will say that I prefer some of the Kaplan materials more and DIT less, but the tried and true FA, UW, and Pathoma trifecta will cost far less and make you much more productive with your time than with a P.A.S.S or Kaplan course. Falcon has Goljan, but is the only one I would recommend for those that absolutely have to have their auditory learning style catered to. I will also agree that most SDN people would not go to P.A.S.S. even if it was free, but there have been so many questions posted about it over the years that I hope this pulls the rest that were on the fence about it way off into safety with the rest of this community. From what I've heard, getting in the 90th percentile on Step 1 will put you in a great position for an interview, you don't absolutely have to have a 99, so take some time out to hit a comedy club or a nice restaurant when you feel stressed. Now that's money well spent 🙂

I agree. I went to the course right at the start of my studying for the step 1 and realized that the course essentially just takes information from UWorld, First Aid, and DIT and puts a way overpriced tag for it. I went to the course out of my own will but I wouldn't recommend others to spend that much money for it.
Beware of spending $8000 upfront for an 8 wk program, when in reality you probably only need to be there for 4 weeks. They're very concerned about money there and they will not downgrade you to the 4 week course after you've payed. They're always very willing to extend your time in the program though! lol.
Honestly, just study with the sources that are recommended so frequently and avoid wasting your money on these courses if you really don't need it.
Good luck guys!
 
I just came back to this thread since someone asked about the place and what to do if you're up against a wall with your last fail and your medical career on the line and have to do some heroic measures.
Mostly the same, but in the most cost efficient manner:
There are pdf files of the "Breaking the Boards" book that anyone that went there should have. If you can't get them, go to lulu.com and order both volumes there. That's all you need from PASS. The author is Brian Lipari, MD and you'll need to get both volumes or try out the new CK book which may be better. Then get the DO cram sheet at the link below and make sure you can write out every tx there in a short paragraph along with memorizing all of the guide.
www.gkeonline.com/ilog/crampages.pdf

For test banks, nothing beats UWorld, so do 25 ?s in 30 minutes or so, then spend no more than 2 hours reviewing your answers, take a break and repeat. You should be up to 50 questions at a time in a week or 2 and around 150-200 ?s a day.
Good luck!

And yes, many people have questions from prior exams, and that may be another perk of being at PASS, but you just have to be super social to find out who has them.

I'm pretty sure "Mass Effect" was a PASS employee, so please put those comments in that context if you even acknowledge them at all.

I wish you all the best of luck!
 
I was just browsing around the forum and saw this thread about The PASS Program, and I don't agree with a lot of what this poster has said. The program completely changed my trajectory for how to study for the exam and help me understand the basics of medicine so I can build on it during my training years and when I practice as a physician. I couldn't even understand a single post on SDN when I first started and now I have gained the ability to understand and explain whatever I know to other posters on the forum, solely because of this course. Maybe the program was different before I attended, I can't speak for that, but I had a great experience there academically and made some great friends who I still keep in touch with today.

There are two types of kids who attend the program after the course is finished: students who get up at 6:30 in the morning, attend UWorld morning questions with Dr. Francis, do their 2 blocks at 7:30, review them until lunch, take a break, read their Notes from after lunch until drills at 4:30 PM, go exercise afterwards, attending a tutoring session if scheduled, eat dinner, and then read for a couple hours and do 1 on 1 drilling of the clues with their partner for 30 minutes and pass out at 9:30 for the next day. That's like 10 hours of work a day. Then there is a type of student who sleeps all day, comes in at 6:00 PM after the teachers leave, reads for an hour and does no UWorld questions, and then complains to other kids about not making any progress on their NBMEs, and then goes home to "study all night". My guess is this poster is the latter type of student. Please don't make a judgement about an entire program based on one incompetent poster. I am going to provide a counter point to everything this dude is saying:

First and foremost the place really doesn't care about you, it's your money that they will go after every hour of every day and their goal is to get $15,000 from everyone that walks through their door, and they're perfectly fine with 'only' making an 8-week student out of you that can get them at least $10,000 if you think you were only going to stay for the original 4 weeks or that $15,000 if you planned on only staying for 8.
The 4 week course is $3,000 (+ cost of housing), it's cheaper than Kaplan and they drop the price every year. That's why it's so much cheaper now compared to before. If you want to do it from home or overseas, they can mail you the textbook and give you access to stream the most current videos (2014 edition) from their website for 1/3 of that price.

1. The teachers: For the Champaign headquarters, Dr. Francis is an outstanding and knowledgeable teacher. Make sure you are at his side as much as possible for the duration of the stay in Champaign because he doesn't teach much more than half the course, which is a tragedy for those that came specifically to learn from him. Dr. Le has taken over most of the teaching responsibilities and while she is brilliant, she will browbeat and embarrass you in class, to the point that people stop going to the classes they paid for and go back to watching the bootleg videos they've had for years. If you still want to go there the best advice is to buy skin-tone earplugs to wear during class and get as many of her study packets as you can. I
Dr. Francis Ihejirika is the teacher who started the program with two students in his first class and wrote the textbook, he's definitely a great teacher, I agree. Dr. Le Pava is a great teacher as well. Yes, she has a little bit of an accent, but is very funny and has BEAUTIFUL diagrams. She designed the supplement to the Notes that has all the handouts in one spot. She "brow beats" you if you didn't read the assigned portion of the Notes from the previous day, she's not going out of her way to make fun of you. You deserved to be called out if your not doing the work, it's to your benefit. She started off as a PASS student who needed help studying for Step 1, worked as a tutor, and then became a faculty member, so she's knows all aspects of how it feels for a student to study for the exam. I know she also takes NBMEs every other month with a tutor monitoring her and she routinely hits above 260. I know it's her job, but it's nice of her to do it because she doesn't come want to come across as a hypocrite to other students taking practice exams. Also, it's not as religious as people say, I think it's a little of an exaggeration. They have weekly meeting with tutors about the progress of students of all times, on Sunday morning!

For the Florida office: Dr. Wolf is the head instructor there but I can't say much about him because nobody seems to be able to find him after the first week. A minimum-wage tutor or another person that has never actually practiced medicine ends up teaching a lot of the class, just like in Champaign!
That is not part of the program anymore. There have a "PASSPrep" Miami course in January and Feb, but I would just go to the main site in Champaign if you are going to do it.

Tutoring: You'd think you'd be getting taught medicine in your weakest areas, but most of the tutors barely finished their first or second years of medical school and are on some sort of extended vacation from their school while waiting to take Step 1 while a few are working on Step 2. The medical instruction, therefore, is minimal. They focus; instead, on making sure you adhere to the test taking mantra they instill in you that is borrowed, mostly, from Kaplan and a basic test-taking skills course offered at most community colleges. The technique does tend to improve your performance on exams so just make sure you buy a U-World account then do 25 questions at a time doing the following for every one of them:
I don't know what your talking about, dude. The first 15 minutes of tutoring consists of you explaining a concept to them (like renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system) and them poking holes in your discussion to see if you understand the material, and them asking any other questions. The next 30 minutes is dedicated to doing 10 UWorld questions, they will grill you on each line on of the stem asking any random point associated to the Notes. If the patient has an abnormal blood pressure, they will ask what's the normal, is the systolic or diastolic affected, is there a pressure or volume problem, etc. Then you systematically go through the answers as the poster has described above and figure out the answer. It is very intimidating at first, but as you build your base and get more practice, you get better and better at doing questions. After doing the questions, they will go through the answers with you and show you exactly why you missed the question and how to not make the same mistake next time. The last 5 minutes, the tutors will help you go through any incorrects you have done before and help you explain the answers. There job is to do UWorld with students for 8 hours a day, so they have seen every single question and know where students are making mistakes. All the tutors are former PASS students who have passed the exam. Yeah maybe they didn't score 260+ but they did decently well, and they are very honest about what mistakes they made in their prep and will help guide you so you don't do the same thing.

hey charge almost $200/hour for this tutoring, which may be on par with Kaplan but Kaplan pays their tutors at least triple what the PASS tutors get paid ($10/hour vs. $30-$40/hour) so only the ones that feel an intense loyalty to the place are staying, the best tutors are rarely there for long or are already on their way out. This is one example of PASS exploiting the students and their tutors to make every last penny for themselves. I can't imagine working so hard for less than the person making my $5 coffee for me at Starbucks; eventually it's got to get to the students they suckered into tutoring and that's what you'll be buying into when you extend your stay.
It's $75/hour now, and I believe the tutors make more than what the poster is saying. There was a waitlist to get hired as a tutor after finishing the exam, so I don't think it's how the poster is saying.

Materials: You get a folder with the PowerPoint’s for all of the lectures and a blue book which has summaries of all the lecture high-points and the infamous "P.A.S.S. Program Clues" which are a rehash of the Med Student Amnesia doc and Boards and Wards. The materials you get and anything the instructors project in front of you have to be some of the lowest quality, most error-ridden junk I've ever paid thousands of dollars for. If you're trying to avoid spending the money to attend a PASS course, buy the Blue "Dissecting USMLE" and the "Breaking the Boards" books (the fully corrected versions of what all the lectures are,) and memorize the clues in the blue book then drill back and forth with as many friends as you can find to do it and you can avoid spending thousands more to be read the WRONG information in class. You know it's bad when the director of the program with 10 years of experience needs to get a medical student to correct his materials properly! Pdf files of all of these are floating around for free and anyone who's attended the course has them, whether they admit it or not.
There is a textbook now called "The PASS Program Notes". No handouts, just the book and a supplement that has any diagrams in a notebook sized spiral. No more "Breaking the Boards" or anything of that other stuff.

Housing: P.A.S.S. gets you the lowest rent, Section 8 housing full of thugs that always are breaking into someone's car for the iPods or laptops that students often leave in their car. There is unarmed security 3 nights a week, but they're always at the gate and the dealers in the Champaign area meet with the main one on nights when security isn't there. If you see anyone with dreadlocks walking around or too old to be on a skateboard, they are likely to be armed and going to the main dealer, which is the first building on the left (go through there and you'll smell which apartment to go to to buy some recreational drugs) when you come to the P.A.S.S. side of the complex. If you have pepper-spray, make sure you take the safety off before you leave the P.A.S.S. lot to walk or drive home.
The apartments are always occupied by P.A.S.S. students so that's their excuse for never really cleaning them. The carpets are sticky, crackle under your feet and hold all sorts of diseases but no amount of requests will make them clean them; not that you should have to ask them to. Your comforter was NOT cleaned after the last person so wash it in hot with everything you can get to kill the last person's germs that are embedded in there. There is also a 50/50 chance that your AC unit isn't working right and they won't get it working without many requests and having them replace the Freon in it practically requires Dr. Francis and the mayor to sign for it. That maintenance request you have the first day should be thoroughly filled out if any of the above are going on and give the front desk a daily update as to if anyone has stopped by to work on it.
I heard stories about this, I think the housing was very bad initially when they started the program. It was really nice when I was there though, they built a new facility in 2010 that has the auditorium on the ground floor and an apartment type setup on the 2nd and 3rd floors. That houses about 35 kids (there is a waitlist), and they changed the housing now to a place that primarily composed of grad students who to go Univ. of Illinois. It's nice, they provide silverware and cooking utensils, furniture, etc. Grocery store is within walking distance. They have maids that come clean in before every student moves in and they have shuttle buses that run between the housing and the center so you don't need a car.

The Game: When you come in, you're put under stress when you first check in and there are a bunch of things wrong with your apartment. Starting the next day, you are stressed every morning at 6:30AM when you do questions in the classroom before the lectures start then keep going through the day, fighting to stay awake in case you get called on. If it's a basic answer that may even be on the board, know that he caught you dozing off and he'll be on your case again for a while. Too bad you can't even see the board because his brother, V-Tini, wouldn't spend the small extra money to get a 10,000 lumen projector with 10,000 to 1 contrast (this took me less than 15 minutes to find with Google and I'm not anywhere near technically inclined) needed to fight through that horrible room lighting
The apartments are fine now. If you can't go to bed at a proper time, its your fault if your not alert at 6:30 AM, don't make excuses. The exam is at 7:30 AM and you have to get up at 5:30 AM as a resident, so get use to it. When your in class, Dr. Francis actually takes the time to learn all 70+ students names, so yeah he will call on different people during class to see if they know the material. He's always cracking jokes though, it's never in an intimidating way. The auditorium is really nice, it reminded me of a college hall and the projector was great, the facilities have been very recently built, I honestly have no idea this dude is talking about.

Just when you're tired of muddling through the crappy notes in the folder, they offer the "Breaking the Boards" books and most people bought it since they were already so fed up with the notes. Again, pdfs and recordings of this and the PP Clues are available for free if you quietly ask around; they actually used to be free or very little cost before V-Tini took over. They will make you feel like you absolutely have to stay if you want to pass your exam
Again, there are no more handouts. It's just one textbook, called the PASS Program Notes. The content is amazing, but their are some spelling errors here and there because it's a 1st edition book. It's not even an official copy yet, they just printed it out because students wanted a textbook to use for their exam so they made it available early. They are working on the 2nd edition. I was able to tie in 90% of UWorld into the Notes (has everything except Anatomy), and about 70-75% of each NBME. That's pretty spectacular in my opinion, I tried doing that with FA and it wasn't working for me, probably because when I started my prep my foundation was pretty bad.

P.A.S.S. knows that many schools send students to P.A.S.S. against their will and those are the ones they snare immediately into their 8-week program.
They aren't sent against their will. It's not a hostage situation. The American students who I was with weren't getting close to a passing score on an NBME and had their exam scheduled in a month, so they got sent to Champaign by their Dean because they know Dr. Francis. All my classmates were so grateful to find the program because they were actually able to understand the material for the first time in their life as opposed to memorize it. The rest of the my classmates were a hodgepodge of Caribbean, DO, and American kids who studied overseas in Poland, Mexico, India, Pakistan, etc. There were very few pure international kids who weren't American. The best part is nobody was cut-throat, everybody is really nice because that's the culture. I had so many people help me workout out a concept or a question on UWorld just by asking them nicely in the lobby or in my apartment.

Even the privilege of staying in the building really isn't one, it's even more run down than the village apartments and people still sneak around after 10PM until the cleaning crew is gone so it's unsafe for you to even leave your room.
Different apartments now. It's very safe.

1. P.A.S.S. is only concerned about getting as much of your money as possible
It can get expensive with tutoring at $75/hour. But if your foundation is really weak because you didn't read/weren't taught as medical student, you need to do something about it and not cry like a little baby. Also that includes access to morning questions and drills. Also the more tutoring you get in bulk, the bigger of a discount they gave. Morning questions/drills/access to study in the building use to be free after the course, but so many people were staying that current students in the course didn't have space to study. So they put up a modest fee per month for access to the building (I think it was $200/month) and that gives you access to morning questions and drills. Also during the 6 week courses, they have multiple trivia competitions in the morning where Dr. Francis puts up $20 to the winner, I've seen him pull like $150 out of his wallet each day, so it's not like his sole purpose in life is to take your money. You can win money back.

2. The Caribbean, Dominican and Puerto Rican students pay half as much as the U.S. and Canadian students and that's why you see so many $100K SUVs parked out front with Florida and Ontario tags. This money goes into buying Dr. Francis' and V-Tini's cars parked out front.
One school (St. James) gets a discount (it's not half), and it's because they entire school gets sent to the course. If you book your course ahead of time, they give out discounts. Plus, they drop the price of the course every year. There are so many different cars from different states because people drove there to study for the exam. How is that a bad thing?

3. Dr. Francis doesn't teach as much of the course as he used to and Dr. Le and the other people who have never cared for a real patient are teaching you how to do just that and the results aren't pretty.
Dr. Francis teaches 4 weeks/Dr. Le teaches 2 weeks. The other 2 weeks, Dr. Francis gives lectures at various medical schools at the invitation of their dean/goes to medical conferences to promote the PASS Brand/or he's in his office working on taping videos/audio lectures. Also at some points during the year they have dual classes in Puerto Rico, so they switch off between the different sites, one teacher in Champaign half the time, and the other in Puerto Rico, and vice versa. Dr. Le is a great teacher as I described earlier, after tons of work with them and doing practice questions, my UWorld results are very pretty and about to hit gorgeous.

4. The Florida office sucks much worse but charges the same money.
Agreed. That's why they stopped the contract with them and Dr. Francis started PASSPrep in Miami during the winter months.

. Use the 5-step method on your own and without a babysitter that you pay $200/hour to. The tutors aren't there to care, they're there to make P.A.S.S money.
It's $75/hour. They don't care about students if you don't put in the effort, which sounded like you. I had tutors who use to sit with me after the day was over at 9:00 PM going over material with me and helping me organize what to study for the next couple of days, free of charge because they became my friend and cared about my progress.

Most of the materials they give you are horrible. Get as many as possible off of torrents and from others that attended the class. If you're desperate, buy them off of amazon.com or lulu.com, the Breaking the Boards series being your highest priority. Skype the materials with a large group of peers, one at a time and you'll be fine.
The new Notes are great, as described before. I think Skyping with friends AFTER the course is great, but you need to go through the material once to figure out what's going on.

7. Don't live in P.A.S.S. housing unless you have to and if you do, carry a self-defense device as you will be accosted by a drug-dealer sometime during your stay.
New housing. It wasn't that bad before, don't exaggerate, and it's great now.

8. Realize that many P.A.S.S. students "pair up" for stress relief and that often includes drugs and alcohol, so know what your limits are before you get there.
That can occur anywhere, whether its a Step 1 course, medical school, or undergrad. Nobody is going to shove anything down your throat. I didn't really see much of any type drug/alcohol use in apartments, FWIW.

9. V-Tini and his staff are your enemy while you're there and the less interaction with them, the better off you will be mentally and financially. These are the penalties you will pay, even if your school is paying for the program. Kaplan MedEssentials books and Falcon are a much better bet for your success than this place.
I don't know who "V-Tini" is, I never saw him there and I prepped there for a while. I can't vouch for the other programs, but I do know that about half of my classmates were former Kaplan students who couldn't get through on their first shot, and took this course to prep for Step 1 and understand the foundations of medicine along the way.

Francis: One of the greatest people ever to teach medicine to all levels, unfortunately that is saddled with an entirely corrupt school that lost its way years ago. I paid not even a fraction of what others paid to attend the course there, but I got tired of watching others get robbed literally and figuratively at the place and letting other potential customers know this was the intent of the first post.
You think it's "corrupt" because you put in no effort and got no result. Don't shame an entire program because your not willing to put the time to do well on an exam.

TLDR: The PASS Program is very well constructed course, IF you put in the effort. The Notes have amazing content and they will guide you to a subpar score on UWorld to get to >75% by understanding the material and memorizing just the HY material, not everything. Both Dr. Francis and Dr. Le Pava are some of the best teachers I have been fortunate to have. At the same time, you will build a framework of how to understand the fundamentals of medicine so you will have a working knowledge when you start residency. Students who feel disenfranchised, like the poster above, make negative comments because they are seeing no results due to lack of doing practice questions, but still are "wasting" their money on resources that are designed to help them succeed.
 
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