PA owning a practice

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might be a dumb question. does any one here on the forum ever think a PA might get rights to open a practice? Does anyone see this in the future or are they discussing this issue. i am real curious to know.

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pa's can already open/own practices. they just have to have an md/do on payroll to review charts. some states require an md/do in the office 1 day/week. most do not. I have a group of 3 friends who have run a successful fp/urgent care pa only practice for over 10 years. they have a retired surgeon come in 1 day a week to do paperwork and they pay him 3k/month. he never sees patients. he has a pager for phone consults. they have an extensive list of specialty consultants available for referals.they each work 2 days/week and make about 150k/yr each after expenses.
 
are you serious, i never knew that a PA can open a practice.
how do patients react to a PA instead of a doctor, are there any discrimination against PA when dealing with patients. also are they allowed to charge the same for visits that a doctor charges. and also are they limited to what type of specialty when they open a practice.
 
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YES, I am serious. the patients know up front what the arrangement is. they sign something up front when they join the practice that acknowledges that the care will be provided by pa's with referal to specialists as appropriate.no one is forcing patients to join the practice. there are other md practices in the same town.they have a fee schedule which pts agree to up front that specifies what an office visit costs, etc. most of their pts pay cash or are medicare/medicaid. I think medicare/medicaid allow a pa to bill for around 80% what an md can for the same service,but since most of their folks pay cah it is not an issue. the only limit on a pa's scope of practice is their state scope of practice and what the superviseing doc allows. for instance, mine says may evaluate and treat pts with ambulatory, urgent, and emergent complaints to the extent of training and experience.
 
so then people with regular coverage for ex. oxford hmo canott see a PA or a PA canott bill them cause there insurance will not pay for it
 
NO, my friends just happen to have set up a system which is cash or medicare/medicaid only. if they wanted to bill other insurances they could, they just didn't want to deal with the hassle of hiring a professional biller. pa's are accepted by every major insurance plan and practice in every specialty in every setting. you might want to check out www.aapa. org
they have info about all aspects of the pa profession on their website
 
what is this i keep reading in the forum that nurses have practice rights.it was just approved recently.
 
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can you direct me to a link on the aapa regarding starting your own practice. or just provide some more examples or anything. this is something that i find very interesting. i have been wondering about this very thing for a while.


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