PAID RESIDENCY or paid while specializing ???

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    Hey guys, how does this work....

    I may want to specialize. Will we get paid while we specialize or is that another two years of no salary ???

    IF so is it like a medical residency??? I know a med student thats getting paid 34,000 during his residency and hes on the high end and he can barely make it.

    Also, dental is 3 yrs and then a 1 yr residency where I want to go. If I want to specialize do I still have to do the 1 year residency as well???


    How does it work for dentists ???

    Thanks !
     

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      eddiescott said:
      Hey guys, how does this work....

      I may want to specialize. Will we get paid while we specialize or is that another two years of no salary ???

      IF so is it like a medical residency??? I know a med student thats getting paid 34,000 during his residency and hes on the high end and he can barely make it.

      Also, dental is 3 yrs and then a 1 yr residency where I want to go. If I want to specialize do I still have to do the 1 year residency as well???


      How does it work for dentists ???

      Thanks !
      The only three year dental school that I know of is UOP, the rest are 4 years. To be a general dentist there is no residency required, however if you specialize then the time intervals of the different residencies varies. 2-3 years for pedo, 2 for endo, 3 for ortho, 3 for perio, and 4-6 for oms. As far as if you want to specialize then do you have to serve a year before that, I don't know. It must be a UOP thing because I have never heard of it.
       

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        eddiescott said:
        Hey guys, how does this work....

        I may want to specialize. Will we get paid while we specialize or is that another two years of no salary ???

        IF so is it like a medical residency??? I know a med student thats getting paid 34,000 during his residency and hes on the high end and he can barely make it.

        Also, dental is 3 yrs and then a 1 yr residency where I want to go. If I want to specialize do I still have to do the 1 year residency as well???


        How does it work for dentists ???

        Thanks !

        Every residency varies. On the high end, some may give you a stipend of $30-40,000/yr. On the low end, you may be shelling out $50,000/yr just for the privilege of attending.
         
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          12YearOldKid said:
          Every residency varies. On the high end, some may give you a stipend of $30-40,000/yr. On the low end, you may be shelling out $50,000/yr just for the privilege of attending.



          I have heard that at WVU the school is 3 yrs then 1 year of unpaid residency which is fine but its a bummer too becuause its expensive enough to live.
           

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            KY2007 said:
            The only three year dental school that I know of is UOP, the rest are 4 years...

            Yes, UOP is the only three year dental program. WVU is a four year program and the fourth year, like most dental schools, is spent in the clinic finishing graduation requirements and not a residency. ;)
             

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              Most GME funding will be gone by graduation.
              So you are looking at taking out loans to pay for your own expense.


              Not for Oral Surgery. We still live under the department of surgery in many hospitals and they won't be taking away our salary any time soon. (How on earth could they expect a resident to live on no salary for 4-6years....it would be impossible unless you are Dr. Carter on ER and don't need a salary because your independently wealthy.)
               

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                All I heard is that the current residents still have GME funding.
                They got rid of the new ones, except some pedo programs.

                Ya, exactly, how do the government think we could support ourselves?
                I went to ASDA Western Regional Meeting.
                There is a talk about ADPAC American Dental Political Action Committee.
                Some of you might have heard the talk.
                Basically, their major purpose is to fundraise and contribute money to politicians to vote for the dental students on different issues such as GME funding, some state licesnsing, Higher Education Act, Indian Health Act.

                Apparently, our govt has focused the war on terrorists rather than taking care of the people's health. And with all these huge debts by students, they are asking why health care cost so much money? What a vicious cycle. Anyway, ASDA promotes students to go to Lobby Day. It is very important to inform politicians about various dental issues. In that conference, my colleague showed a video when a judge is asking many times whether mercury is poison? and the scientist/researcher repeatedly said element mercury is poison, like the judge has understood alloy is different than the pure form.
                As future dental students, future dentists, we should learn how to work together to protect our profession. If you donno what ADPAC is, please ask your ASDA representative. If you are not an ASDA member yet, do you know you get 50K life insurance and first year ADA membership for free once you graduate?

                If you dont even know GME funding is being slashed, you may want to look carefully before you attend dental school. Does it worth that extra X money to be a specialist?
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                  APPLEBITE said:
                  Got any idea how much they are paid. I have heard that medical residencies only pay 32k for physicians.

                  what is it for dentists ???

                  This is a really interesting thread; I was thinking of starting something like this. I've looked into this a lot and found extremes. For example, if you specialize at the Mayo Clinic in minnesota, you get paid exactly as much as any medical resident. I think you start out at like $43,000 and it goes up like $2,000 every year. Ridiculous. But mayo is ******edly hard to get into. On the other end, you have harvard which costs like $32000 in tuition to specialize a year. And then you have everything in between those extremes. I noted that on UCSF's website, they say there's no tuition for some specialities, but "stipends may be given dependent on the situation and our funding issues." So, at some schools you may have to fight for it.

                  This whole issue is really weird and fuzzy and I don't think anyone really understands it. I do think that in general though, the programs that pay good stipends are much more competetive to get into.
                   

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                    delicious said:
                    This is a really interesting thread; I was thinking of starting something like this. I've looked into this a lot and found extremes. For example, if you specialize at the Mayo Clinic in minnesota, you get paid exactly as much as any medical resident. I think you start out at like $43,000 and it goes up like $2,000 every year. Ridiculous. But mayo is ******edly hard to get into. On the other end, you have harvard which costs like $32000 in tuition to specialize a year. And then you have everything in between those extremes. I noted that on UCSF's website, they say there's no tuition for some specialities, but "stipends may be given dependent on the situation and our funding issues." So, at some schools you may have to fight for it.

                    This whole issue is really weird and fuzzy and I don't think anyone really understands it. I do think that in general though, the programs that pay good stipends are much more competetive to get into.



                    ok, how bout this,.,,,

                    ARE RESIDENSIES even required for dentists ?????

                    I think its a major bummer that I will have to work for a year in WV for free my 4th year in a clinic or at a practitioners office.

                    ****, they should pay me something ! I mean my gas and vehicle isnt free to get me there is it??? and i am sure that they make money from these people that I will work on. AANND I HAVE TO PAY TUITION on top of that.

                    i need another drink
                     

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                      APPLEBITE said:
                      Got any idea how much they are paid. I have heard that medical residencies only pay 32k for physicians.

                      what is it for dentists ???

                      They range from 23g to 45g depending on area, etc. Most NY programs are on the upper end due to cost of living. Some programs, usually school-based, charge you tuition but most wave it.

                      If you are really interested in specific programs, go to www.aapd.org and look at residencies.
                       

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                        APPLEBITE said:
                        ok, how bout this,.,,,

                        ARE RESIDENSIES even required for dentists ?????

                        I think its a major bummer that I will have to work for a year in WV for free my 4th year in a clinic or at a practitioners office.

                        ****, they should pay me something ! I mean my gas and vehicle isnt free to get me there is it??? and i am sure that they make money from these people that I will work on. AANND I HAVE TO PAY TUITION on top of that.

                        i need another drink


                        Try to understand this. WV is a four year school --- just like every other school in the country except UOP. The fourth year is NOT a residency; you just happen to be doing patient care that year. It is NOT a residency. It is NOT a residency.
                         

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                          12YearOldKid said:
                          Try to understand this. WV is a four year school --- just like every other school in the country except UOP. The fourth year is NOT a residency; you just happen to be doing patient care that year. It is NOT a residency. It is NOT a residency.


                          S O R R Y !!!


                          Its like this, if you are working at a dental office 40 hours a week and its your fourth year, I dont give a crapola what you call it.

                          RESIDENCY !!
                           
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