Pain Fellowships that historically accept PM&R grads

[PorcupineDoc]

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Looking for some insight on this.

What Pain fellowships that are anesthesiology sponsored historically have accepted 1-2 PM&R residents each yearish. Especially ones that have full breadth of procedures including implantable pumps etc. I know a lot of them say open to x y z specialties but which ones are solid programs that actually take more than gas?

 

[PorcupineDoc]

I’d this would be better just on the PM&R forum I can move it there.

 

[RaceCanyon]

You know what you can do - look up every single program's alumni and staff and determine if you see any PMR presence. At least that's what I did when I was in your shoes.

 

[MitchLevi]

Why exactly are you asking this?

I'm PMR and the thought never occurred to me that my PMR residency would in any way prevent me from going where I want to go.

You are what matters, not your residency.

 

[PorcupineDoc]

Why exactly are you asking this?

I'm PMR and the thought never occurred to me that my PMR residency would in any way prevent me from going where I want to go.

You are what matters, not your residency.

I’m not saying like PMR is negative and would prevent it. I know statistically there are many more anesthesiology based pain programs and statistically more anesthesiology residents applying than PMR.

So if in my state, Tx, you look at the pain programs, almost all the residents are anesthesiologists. So I was just asking like is it because they mostly favor anesthesia or are they not getting many PMR applicants etc. So I wanna know which fellowships often have PMR grad residents.

Just looking for insight on the situation in anyway.

 

[oreosandsake]

most programs do these days. the ones that make you take anesthesia call dont. USC, cedars, U of C come to mind

you'll be the 1 or 2 non anesthesia fellows in a program. they are looking for standouts

 

[MitchLevi]

I’m not saying like PMR is negative and would prevent it. I know statistically there are many more anesthesiology based pain programs and statistically more anesthesiology residents applying than PMR.

So if in my state, Tx, you look at the pain programs, almost all the residents are anesthesiologists. So I was just asking like is it because they mostly favor anesthesia or are they not getting many PMR applicants etc. So I wanna know which fellowships often have PMR grad residents.

Just looking for insight on the situation in anyway.

You bring a lot to the Pain table that anesthesiologists do not, and vice versa.

Be a great resident and you will match.

Fellowship programs are usually run by anesthesia departments, and they more often than not fill many of their spots internally. That's why it seems they match better. It's merely bc they are familiar with those residents who do anesthesia in that program, and they rotate through the pain dept during electives and pain rotations.

My advice - As a PMR doctor I recommend you lift weights and learn MSK like the back of your hand.

 

[drusso]

Do not use history to plan your future. Make your own future.

 

[PainDoc2025]

Almost all are PM&R friendly, some non-PM&R friendly ones that come to mind are Rush, UCLA, USC, Cedars Sinai, U of C

 

[bedrock]

Almost all are PM&R friendly, some non-PM&R friendly ones that come to mind are Rush, UCLA, USC, Cedars Sinai, U of C

yep, basically all the university ACGME pain fellowships in LA county discriminate against PMR docs........though they sure don't want any other type discrimination in woke LA......

 

[IHawkDO]

I'd agree with what has already been said regarding programs that have not accepted PM&R applicants in the past. I don't believe Kansas or BSW have had PM&R based fellows, but I don't think there's anything preventing them from doing so (i.e.: OR call). All of the other major Texas programs have accepted PM&R based fellows in the past, including UTSW, Tech, UTSA, and MD Anderson.

 

[PainDoc2025]

yep, basically all the university ACGME pain fellowships in LA county discriminate against PMR docs........though they sure don't want any other type discrimination in woke LA......

Loma Linda, UCSD, UC Irvine, UC Davis are all PM&R/DO friendly from what I understand. Stanford NASS Spine also had a DO + PM&R trained fellow in the past years too.

 

[bedrock]

Loma Linda, UCSD, UC Irvine, UC Davis are all PM&R/DO friendly from what I understand. Stanford NASS Spine also had a DO + PM&R trained fellow in the past years too.

Agree with your list.

And none of those programs are in Los Angeles county.

So again, no hope to get an ACGME pain fellowship for PMR grads in LA county (except the VA program)