This is very inaccurate. Pain will have less vacation, but most of the pain jobs I looked at paid a range of more than 550 to waaay more than 550. I may not get 12 full weeks off a week at a time, but I do work 4 days a week every week with no nights, call, weekends, or holidays worked, which I find to be much preferable personally than 12 separate weeks but getting called in at 2 a.m. on Christmas to do an emergent case.
Care to share any publicly available data? Hospitals salaries are largely based off MGMA figures. That's not even 550
This is very inaccurate. Pain will have less vacation, but most of the pain jobs I looked at paid a range of more than 550 to waaay more than 550. I may not get 12 full weeks off a week at a time, but I do work 4 days a week every week with no nights, call, weekends, or holidays worked, which I find to be much preferable personally than 12 separate weeks but getting called in at 2 a.m. on Christmas to do an emergent case.
Not sure if you have actually worked in the field based on prior posts. Let's go through it based on recent ads.
Hi, I have a new pain management opportunity in Southern CA 1.5 hrs from L.A.. Okay for fellows or practicing because they have 2 needs.
Option to do 1099 or W2
350-375K base plus RVU/Bonus
Full benefits and malpractice available if you choose W2
4 weeks’ vacation
Multi-specialty group, pain dept will be new
In house C-Arm
Access to surgery center
2-year partnership
Another one from yesterday:
Happy New Year! Wanted to share some details regarding an interventional pain job in the south:
- $375k - $415k base plus RVU
- Multiple locations in KY, IN and surrounding states
- Interventional pain procedures
- Full time but might have part time or flex scheduling available
- Established patient base
- Malpractice and full benefits available
Not exactly amazing pay. Little vacation is the norm.
Furthermore, no discussion of overhead, a foreign concept for most anesthesiologists, which can be 40-50% of total collections.
Academic jobs tend to be 330ish with full benefits.
Check the pain forums, private practice pain is infamous for revolving door of pre-partners who are let go or rejected by vote from partnership.
4-6 weeks for 300ish and full benefits....that's CRNA pay, who promptly leave at 3pm, never take call, guaranteed 2 breaks and a lunch and chill out in long cases like robot rooms.
Unless you wanna talk about the top 20% of private practice guys who have a strong hold with a huge referral base of insured patients and partial ownership in an ASC. Their money is from facility fees, not from working a pain job.
Most hospital positions are either 2 years of a 400-450 salary then pure RVU afterwards; or a salaried position +/- RVU. Yes, some hospitals get desperate and pay above MGMA but this is less common and tends to be in less geographically desired areas, taking call, med management, inpatient consults.
One of my cofellows took a pure block jock job for large ortho group in a big city. Little to no med mgmt. Essentially one of the ivy anesthesia residencies. No diagnosis or management, they order blocks and he does them. Pay was under 300,000 in 2020ish.
Another cofellow does the typical 3 days clinic PP 40-50ish patients a day plus 2 days of fluoro procedures. Told up front that he must write for or continue all opioids, marijuana,amphetamines, and benzos to keep the referrers happy. Owner of that practice is known for doing 10 stim trials in a day. Happens about once per week. Those are the guys taking 800ish+ post overhead in PP. That or ASC ownership.
For comparison, I have PP cardiac guys in my city, personally know, offered to show me their w-2, who state they make 880 doing their own cardiac cases. Mind you, they take a lot of heart call and frequently work postcall...but they get 10-12 weeks vacation.
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