PASSOR workshops

[AviatorDoc]

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I have two simple questions regarding these:

1.) Are residents welcome?

2.) Is any CME credit granted upon completion?

 

[ampaphb]

I have two simple questions regarding these:

1.) Are residents welcome?

2.) Is any CME credit granted upon completion?

1) Residents are allowed to attend, although whether they receive as high a priority as full Academy members would be a good question toi ask the Workshop staff

2) CME credits are not offered, which is largely WHY your tuition is reduced from that of attendings. However, as a resident, you should be exempt from all state licensure requirements regarding CMEs, as all of your training is considered "Medical Education"

 

[AviatorDoc]

Thanks.

 

[Aether2000]

The workshops are very good with some extremely gifted physiatry instructors.

 

[AviatorDoc]

They're fairly expensive for a resident, but I'm hoping that they pay off in terms of adding that "extra something" to a fellowship application.

 

[Aether2000]

The people you meet there may ultimately be stepping stones to a career. They are good guys....
I am not a physiatrist but have taught at their courses for several years now and am impressed at their integration of needle skills with physical exam skills. It has been my privilege to teach and learn from my esteemed colleagues.

 

[PMR 4 MSK]

The problem I have with the PASSOR workshops and similar is that they do not translate to privileges in many places, such as mine. I could do all 3 courses, and still not be eligible to do them at any local hospital, without additional training and documentation, such as having 50 proctored cases. I could do them in my office, but then how do you explain that it a lawsuit, if they ask about your privileges to do them at a hospital. The brochures even say that completion of this course does not certify you to do any of the procedures on live humans.

Now we all know that physiatrists take these courses and then go home and start doing them on patients, such as in their offices with their own C-arms, while the documentation they have to support their training says they shouldn't. So what, ultimately, is the point of these courses?

 

[Louisville04]

The problem I have with the PASSOR workshops and similar is that they do not translate to privileges in many places, such as mine. I could do all 3 courses, and still not be eligible to do them at any local hospital, without additional training and documentation, such as having 50 proctored cases. I could do them in my office, but then how do you explain that it a lawsuit, if they ask about your privileges to do them at a hospital. The brochures even say that completion of this course does not certify you to do any of the procedures on live humans.

You could say that you learned them during your residency. As for privileges to do them at the hospital, you could say you didn't apply for them since it was more cost effective to do them in your office.

 

[Aether2000]

There are no courses that "certify" a person to do a procedure. You are given a certificate of completion of the course by most. Hospital credentialing is highly dependent on the particular hospital and has little to do with competence. Local politics or unrealistic expectations such as 50 proctored cases are imposed with prejudice. Ask your hospital if an orthopedic surgeon having learned a new technique at a conference is subjected to the 50 proctored case rule....
Most of us do cases in our office or surgery center that we could not obtain privileges to do in a local hospital.