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wiiturtledove

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How the heck do you guys tell the difference when it is like 3-4 degrees apart???? God I hope the real test isnt like this.

I try looking away. Do the ski test, do the Pac-man eating ghosts thing, do the 7 thing, and it still looks the same. That lucky 7 isnt so lucky on the PAT.

I do deduction but it's not always right. For example if the examples are

1. 1 3 2 4
2. 1 2 3 4
3. 2 1 3 4
4. 2 3 1 4.

I figured if you can see that 1 is smaller than 2, then the second biggest has got to be 2. The biggest would be 4. And the answer would therefore be #2!!! Nope. That deductive logic doesnt work. (well not all the time...more than 70%)
 
How the heck do you guys tell the difference when it is like 3-4 degrees apart???? God I hope the real test isnt like this.

I try looking away. Do the ski test, do the Pac-man eating ghosts thing, do the 7 thing, and it still looks the same. That lucky 7 isnt so lucky on the PAT.

I do deduction but it's not always right. For example if the examples are

1. 1 3 2 4
2. 1 2 3 4
3. 2 1 3 4
4. 2 3 1 4.

I figured if you can see that 1 is smaller than 2, then the second biggest has got to be 2. The biggest would be 4. And the answer would therefore be #2!!! Nope. That deductive logic doesnt work. (well not all the time...more than 70%)
Oh it is. Just go with your gut for the 3 deg. differences. You sound like you are going about it the right way. Just keep practicing.
 
Hi, the angle ranking section is byfar the easiest and quickest section on the pat. I recommened trying the method I used. put your finger against beginning of the angle sort of perpendicular. Then slowly move your finger to expose a small amount of area in the angle. Use your other hand and do the same simultaneously on the other angle. Make sure both fingers are about the same distances from the start of the angle. Its much easier to tell which angles are smaller or larger when us scale the angles down and also observe the area between your finger and the beginning of the angle. You can compare these areas. The angle with larger area will be the larger angle. I hope this makes sense, it worked really well for me.
 
Hi, the angle ranking section is byfar the easiest and quickest section on the pat. I recommened trying the method I used. put your finger against beginning of the angle sort of perpendicular. Then slowly move your finger to expose a small amount of area in the angle. Use your other hand and do the same simultaneously on the other angle. Make sure both fingers are about the same distances from the start of the angle. Its much easier to tell which angles are smaller or larger when us scale the angles down and also observe the area between your finger and the beginning of the angle. You can compare these areas. The angle with larger area will be the larger angle. I hope this makes sense, it worked really well for me.


Brilliant!!!! Thanks for sharing. I was wondering if we can touch the screen with our fingers. 😀😀😀😀

So is it the thumb and index finger of each hand??? I better get more dexterous. Not sure what you mean by perpendicular. I was just going to copy the angle with my thumb and index finger into a V shape.

These are the ones that I cant figure out.


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You can touch the screen or at least put your hands up to it. I used the exact method the user described above. It does work, but when they rotate the angles so they are all facing different directions it get's kind of tricky. But I agree. It was the least stressful and quickest section of the PAT (about 5 minutes).
 
i heard we are not allowed to put our fingers up to the screen though....
Maybe it depends on the testing center. I put my fingers right next to the computer. I didn't want to touch it because I was afraid it may shut off or something. But no one said anything to me. The person you heard from; did they get in trouble for doing it, or did they just think it was prohibited?
 
I took it today and there were signs posted that touching the screen was prohibited. I put my hands close to the screen, just never touched it and was fine. I was also told that if I wanted to use earplugs I would need to bring a brand new pair, still in the package and that they would be inspected for microphones.
 
To wiiturledove, You dont use one hand and done try to recreate the angle with your index and thumb, this would be extremely difficult and dont see why it would help when you just look at the lines instead of inaccurate image recreated by your fingers. Instead you are using one finger on each hand for two different angles simultaneously. So pretend this is an angle < and this is your thumb | take you thumb and place it like so, <| Pretend that the lines on this angle keep going, you want to mave that finger towards the left until you can see a little bit of area withing the 2lines of the triangle and your finger, you can then do this with your other hand and compare both. like is said before compare the areas within the angle and finger, but make sure both hands are about the same distances apart. Once you try this you can then adjust which way you like to do it, wether you want to move you finger very close or a little farther or both.
 
Now the angles that you proposed here are the exception and you dont use this method cause the angles to large. what I do with these angle that worked pretty well, I would put one finger along one of the lines of the angle, this will create a way to look at the smaller angle. If you get what I'm saying. this helps cause if it hard to compare the larger angles, so I like to look at their relative smaller angles. For example if the angles 135, I put one finger directly on one of the lines and allow your finger to extend past the angle and you will get the 55 degree angle, which for me is easier to compare.
 
over 1000 angle problems done on CDP, and the real DAT questions still stumped me. It was complete horse$hit. I tried 3 different methods (short line to compare the other angle, fingernails closing in to see which angle is fuzzier, the "laptop" method), and nothing worked. I firmly believe that for some people, you either get it or you don't.
 
over 1000 angle problems done on CDP, and the real DAT questions still stumped me. It was complete horse$hit. I tried 3 different methods (short line to compare the other angle, fingernails closing in to see which angle is fuzzier, the "laptop" method), and nothing worked. I firmly believe that for some people, you either get it or you don't.

agreed
 
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