PAT isn't that bad!

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Well i have started studying for the PAT today... Have taken 2 of the subject tests given by the Kaplan course (90 questions each) and I really dont think its very hard at all, missed like 8 without ever looking at the PAT material. Im seriously so confident on the PAT that im really not going to study it much, just practice a little bit. If anyone is having problems feel free to PM me! I have figured out really great little tricks in the 3 hours i have practiced today. PM me if ya need any help!
 
I have the PAT subject tests from Kaplan as well, but they have a .VEM extension that I don't know what I can open it with. Is it the same for yours and if so, what application do you use to open it?
 
KOM said:
I have the PAT subject tests from Kaplan as well, but they have a .VEM extension that I don't know what I can open it with. Is it the same for yours and if so, what application do you use to open it?
hmmmm... I have no idea. I tried to find somthing but i couldnt... Sorry! If you would like to exchange the pat subject tests (mine are in PDF) for some QR, that would be GREAT
 
golfmontpoker said:
hmmmm... I have no idea. I tried to find somthing but i couldnt... Sorry! If you would like to exchange the pat subject tests (mine are in PDF) for some QR, that would be GREAT
Try some DAT Achiever PAT and let us know if you feel the same. 😉
 
PAT isn't all that horrible, especially if you practice or have an artistic mind. Kaplan's PAT however isn't representative of the actual test. Kaplan is way way easier. Try some of the other resources out there before taking the actual DAT. I only used Kaplan's material and was getting 24s, on the actual test, I only got a 19.
 
I agree Kaplan's PAT is much easier than the real test. I made the mistake of thinking like you golfmont and got a 19 on PAT which isn't terrible, but it can be an easy 20+ section if you study with the right material. Good Luck!
 
golfmontpoker said:
Well i have started studying for the PAT today... Have taken 2 of the subject tests given by the Kaplan course (90 questions each) and I really dont think its very hard at all, missed like 8 without ever looking at the PAT material. Im seriously so confident on the PAT that im really not going to study it much, just practice a little bit. If anyone is having problems feel free to PM me! I have figured out really great little tricks in the 3 hours i have practiced today. PM me if ya need any help!


I agree with Gasedo...try DAT acheiver and then let us know how you feel about it...MUCH, MUCH more difficult.
 
lifeisgood said:
I agree with Gasedo...try DAT acheiver and then let us know how you feel about it...MUCH, MUCH more difficult.
:laugh: You guys are probably right... Ill let ya all know what i tihnk about it when i get DAT achiever! These kaplan subject tests though are pretty easy for me... But i definately feel you all, i bet DAT achiever is WAY more hard
 
golfmontpoker said:
:laugh: You guys are probably right... Ill let ya all know what i tihnk about it when i get DAT achiever! These kaplan subject tests though are pretty easy for me... But i definately feel you all, i bet DAT achiever is WAY more hard

2AM and you were awake studying? hmmm? i cant believe you think that 3D stuff is easy,dopey.i can get em right,but it just takes like an hour/four problems. 😡 😡 😡 😡
 
golfmontpoker said:
I have figured out really great little tricks in the 3 hours i have practiced today. PM me if ya need any help!

Can you share some of your neat tricks with me? I have trouble with the stupid invisible lines. I can never "see" what the 3D object actually looks like. I'd appreciate your tricks for all the sections though!
 
getting a 24 on the kaplan PAT subject tests=16 on the actual DAT.......basically use other materials because kaplan is a joke
 
golfmontpoker said:
Well i have started studying for the PAT today... Have taken 2 of the subject tests given by the Kaplan course (90 questions each) and I really dont think its very hard at all, missed like 8 without ever looking at the PAT material. Im seriously so confident on the PAT that im really not going to study it much, just practice a little bit. If anyone is having problems feel free to PM me! I have figured out really great little tricks in the 3 hours i have practiced today. PM me if ya need any help!

Hey golfrmontpoker,

Don't get too smug about the Kaplan PAT prep materials, as the angle discrimination portion of Kaplan's PAT practice test is EASY!

The angle discrimination portion of the PAT on the real DAT so damn hard, I doubt a protractor can even help you distinguish between the angles.

This is why I used other DAT prep materials to prepare me for the PAT on the real DAT exam. Other than that, the lock-key, orthographic projection, hole punching and pattern folding in the Kaplan material is similar to what showed up on the real DAT.
 
I was scoring about the same on all the Kaplan and topscore tests, 24-25, and on the real DAT I got a 19 (made me sick). Try Achiever, It is way closer to the real PAT. I wish I would have spent more time on it now.

20/20/19
 
Ironic, the same thing happened to me. I was consistently getting 22-23's on Kaplan's PAT sections, but on the real one I too only got a 19.

For of those you who haven't taken the real test yet, try doing the top-front-end section last. I know it's questions 15-30 but just mark them and come back to them. My score really improved when I started doing that. Don't worry about losing time. I had 18 minutes left on test day.

Just a thought =)
 
GeauxTigers said:
For of those you who haven't taken the real test yet, try doing the top-front-end section last. I know it's questions 15-30 but just mark them and come back to them. My score really improved when I started doing that. Don't worry about losing time. I had 18 minutes left on test day.

Just a thought =)

hey! that's what i did! although it was because i never really "got" those problems and they were giving me a headache on the real test :laugh: came out with a 20 PA, which is good enough for me.
 
personally, I felt the hardest part on the actual test was the angle ranking portion. Some of the angles differ by probably 2-3 degrees, and it's really really hard to tell. For some reason, i've never really had any trouble with the top-front-end section. The key is to recognize the number of lines and how the lines are spacially related to each other...then you can sort of figure out the answer.
 
SOOOO.

HOW MANY CAN you still mISS and gET A 20 on PAT??

LIKE ABOUT 15-20 WRONG out of 90?

is is advisable to skip to the parts THAT YOU THINK you can fly through AND THEN go back to the section/s you are a little slower (topfrontend)??

🙂 thank you and goodnight.
 
I believe if u skip any section and come back it would be the angles. This part is about impossible on the real thing. Make sure u get the ez questions correct first then come back to the harder ones.




(19,19,19) 😍
 
NickMSU said:
I believe if u skip any section and come back it would be the angles. This part is about impossible on the real thing. Make sure u get the ez questions correct first then come back to the harder ones.




(19,19,19) 😍
I agree that the angles on the real deal are more of a "gut instinct" thing than anything you can study, but you should still study. If you don't practice, you're gut instinct will probably be wrong. I don't know about DAT Achiever, but KAPLAN blue book and topscore were representative of all other sections of the PAT for me and both were excellent predictors of my real score. My PAT only went up on the real deal to a 24 (actually quite shocking - there must have been a little luck involved on that one!) Good luck, everyone!
 
NickMSU said:
I believe if u skip any section and come back it would be the angles. This part is about impossible on the real thing. Make sure u get the ez questions correct first then come back to the harder ones.




(19,19,19) 😍

in my opinion, angles weren't that bad. but just make sure you use other study resources other than kaplan to prepare. i agree that if a question is hard and is taking too much time, don't hestitate to skip it and come back. chances are that you'll have plenty of time at the end to work through them, without the stress of wondering if you'll finish in time.
 
I only used the kaplan blue book and I scored a 21 on the PAT. I thought that the hints they give you in the book are very helpful. And for the angles, just use your peripheral...it's very simple...don't think about them. I spent less than 5 secnds on each...just go with your first instinct.
 
RozhonDDS said:
getting a 24 on the kaplan PAT subject tests=16 on the actual DAT.......basically use other materials because kaplan is a joke

i used kaplan only and got above a 20 on the pat. Since you seem to have taken the dat then I trust this information🙄
 
MansonTiles said:
SOOOO.

HOW MANY CAN you still mISS and gET A 20 on PAT??

LIKE ABOUT 15-20 WRONG out of 90?

is is advisable to skip to the parts THAT YOU THINK you can fly through AND THEN go back to the section/s you are a little slower (topfrontend)??

🙂 thank you and goodnight.


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The differencesi noticed on the real test from practice material was the hole punching. it was hard to tell where the holes were punch because they seemed smaller than normal. also the end view diagrams were more complex than the ones on practice tests.

TS 22/AA 23/ PAT 25
Univ. of Florida
 
does anyone have any techniques they use for the top front end part on the PAT?


This is gonna sound CONFUSING since im writing it out....but hopefully someone knows what im talking about.... my kaplan teacher was telling us to do this line thing for the top-front-end portion. Let's say i needed a right projection and i have the top and the front view. He made up this thing where since u want the right projection, look at the front view and count the number of horizontal solid lines reaching the most right vertical line (named the surface)...these count as "events"...any kinks in the figure count as an event, and any dotted lines that reach the right most surface count as events as well. (half dotted lines that dont reach the surface dont count)...now just count how many horizontal solid lines there are in the answer choices and thats supposed to be the easy way to get the answer....ya so that sounds confusing to you im sure but it worked while i was in kaplan class...the only thing is, is that i was too busy studying everything else that i forgot exactly how this technique works and therefore i cant really use it....does anyone know im talking about? or does anyone want to share any of their techniques for any part of the PAT section if they have any? Thank you for your time in reading this. 🙂
 
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