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PBL . . . is it a good thing?

Discussion in 'Pre-Dental' started by Zhopik, May 15, 2007.

  1. Zhopik

    Zhopik 2+ Year Member

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    I've been looking at PBL programs(for example at USC), but I can't seem to figure out if they're a good thing, or if students are left to fend for themselves and don't really learn as much . . .

    Anyone know anything about PBL?
     
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  3. Lidopaine82

    Lidopaine82 Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    i think its slightly more like the second idea. especially if its 100% PBL as opposed to hybrid.
     
  4. zthang

    zthang Member 7+ Year Member

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    I think PBL is beneficial...especially in programs at schools like Case or Houston. HOWEVER...when the curriculum is 100% pbl like at USC...I think it's a horrible idea and only hurts the students.
     
  5. deuist

    deuist Stealthfully Sarcastic Physician Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 10+ Year Member

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    Whether or not you will like PBL is highly dependent upon your personality, your facilitator, and your groupmates. See this funny video from UPitt on the issue.

    When do I get tenure for teaching medical students?
     
  6. Denticized

    Denticized 7+ Year Member

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    Ok before we get into why USC is this and that...we must have it established that PBL is not necessarily a good or bad thing. The ultimate question for PBL is whether the student is motivated intrinsically or extrinsically? The former is clearly suitable for PBL and the latter has no choice but to go to a traditional program.
     
  7. djeffreyt

    djeffreyt Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    FOr once...someone posted a med/dent You tube video I actually thought was kinda funny.

    That asian girl at the end has an awesome closing line.
     
  8. deuist

    deuist Stealthfully Sarcastic Physician Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 10+ Year Member

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    Hand in a Box was somewhat funny---and the Vanderbilt "Stomp" routine was well done. But you are right. So many of the medical videos that get posted to SDN or my school's listserve are a waste of time to watch. They're almost all poorly produced, with hideous director skills, bad acting, and a lack of talent in writing the script.

    The Asian line came from another video that was produced last year. I think the tag was something to the effect of become Asian and you'll become one with the boards.
     
  9. niti12

    niti12 5+ Year Member

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    can someone please tell me what PBL means?
    im planning on applying for idp in 2008 and i dont have a clue as to how dental schools work in the us!

    how do they teach?
     
  10. jza70

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    Peer Based Learning
     
  11. burgler09

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    When did PBL start? Is this something new? It seems USC is getting a lot of crap for this..is the hatred towards PBL something more around SDN or is USC beginning to lose money from this, I mean it can't be around long if so many people hate it, right?
     
  12. DDSY

    DDSY Bright Lights at Night 7+ Year Member

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  13. TeethVader

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    As others have said, in conjunction with a lecture component it will work great; however, 100% PBL is horrible and renders plenty of educational gaps, especially when you're trying to teach clinical dentistry yourself with no instruction. It is expected from you to know all your clinical dentistry theory once you enter the clinic; however, being that you come from a PBL curriculum you obviously not know much and get challenged by the lack of basic clinical principles... Personally, I do not recommend this program and this comes from somebody who is very study-oriented. By the way here are the stats from the past graduates from USC, this stats are very worrisome and scary:
    The following statistics on the percentage of seniors graduating in a particular month of a particular year were presented by Dr. Mulvehill (Chief of SC Clinic) during the last town meeting.



    YEAR: (below) Grad MONTH: MAY AUG DEC

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    2003 78% 99% 100%

    2004 71% 94% 99

    2005 74 95 98

    2006 34 84 88

    2007 18 ? ?
     
  14. jmick101

    jmick101 Kung Fu DDS 10+ Year Member

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    I think it is actually Problem Based Learning.
     
  15. deuist

    deuist Stealthfully Sarcastic Physician Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 10+ Year Member

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    PBL stands for "problem-based learning," although calling it peer-based learning isn't fall from the truth.
     
  16. jza70

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    Thanks for the correction. I don't know where I got the idea it was peer, but I've been thinking that since now.
     

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