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PCOM-Philly vs. CCOM vs. Des Moines

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - DO' started by MissChris27, Oct 29, 2014.

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Which school offers more for students, in terms of support, opportunities, and guidance?

  1. PCOM

    57.9%
  2. Des Moines

    28.9%
  3. CCOM

    13.2%
  1. MissChris27

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    Hello everyone,

    This is my first post on SDN although I'm a long time lurker. I have been accepted to the three schools listed and would like some advice on which one to go to. I'm from PA, and absolutely loved PCOM. That being said, I recently was accepted to CCOM and Des Moines and want to know if I would be doing myself a disservice by not investigating my possibilities at these schools more closely. Can anyone offer more insight into these schools? Is it possible that I would have better residency options at one over the others? Thank you in advance.
     
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  3. DoctorLacrosse

    DoctorLacrosse 5+ Year Member

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    where do you ultimately want to do your residency? which location is more conducive to your happiness? how expensive is each?

    in my opinion, these are three top notch DO programs. all will provide you what you need to become a great physician. the questions I listed above are what you should be asking yourself. good luck!
     
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  4. cliquesh

    cliquesh 7+ Year Member

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    They are all in the same league. Any of them would be fine. I'd go to which ever makes you happy. Ccom is a little too expensive, in my opinion.
     
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  5. MissChris27

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    Yes, that was the one thing about CCOM that was a bit of a turn off - that price! The area was pleasant; far enough from the city to concentrate, but close enough to go get a break from studying. I am interested in going to Pediatrics or Internal Medicine.
     
  6. MissChris27

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    This might sound ignorant, but which of these schools will afford me a better chance of landing an ACGME residency? Or is it all based on the USMLE scores?
     
  7. DoctorLacrosse

    DoctorLacrosse 5+ Year Member

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    probably the latter, but I'll let more informed people respond
     
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  8. DoctorKrieger

    DoctorKrieger Exit Van Left 2+ Year Member

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    100% at all of them. The whole merger thing and all.
     
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  9. th3v3rn

    th3v3rn 2+ Year Member

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    By the time you go into the match it will most likely be a single match
     
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  10. DrEnderW

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    Aside from any direct connections with programs bc of location, a DO school is a DO school to most acgme programs and MDs. I don't think that will play a factor.

    The transition from AOA to ACGME accreditation will be in the process by the time you're submitting ERAS but there is absolutely no guarantee there will be a joint match by that time.

    I'd look at the price of CCOM heavily before making your choice.
     
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  11. cliquesh

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    It's all about your usmle scores. Top pediatric and internal medicine programs are not DO friendly, so it doesn't matter too much where you go.
     
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  12. reapplicanthelpme2014

    reapplicanthelpme2014 2+ Year Member

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    looks like PCOM took the cookie!
     
  13. Mad Jack

    Mad Jack Critically Caring Gold Donor 2+ Year Member

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    Yeah, but you can get where you need to go with mid-tier university programs for the most part. You aren't super ****** by going DO in pediatrics or IM, so long as you keep your performance up in residency and match mid-tier.
     
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  14. Mad Jack

    Mad Jack Critically Caring Gold Donor 2+ Year Member

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    This isn't super likely, actually. The accreditation is merging, not the match process.
     
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  15. th3v3rn

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    My Dean and associate Dean are really confident that it will be a single match by then and that those AOA residencies that haven't been accredited yet will just be brought on when they become accredited.
    So I guess there will be 2 matches still but the merger will have started already.
    It really is anyone's guess but I am planning on it. One of our deans is on the ACGME board for future osteopathic something or other for the few residencies that will still focus on OMM.
     
  16. Mad Jack

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    The match merging is an entirely separate process. The earliest it could happen is 2018 due to the technicalities of everything that is going on. Most likely, it'll take a few years after that. Yeah, there will eventually be a unified match, but I'm putting my money on 2020 at the earliest simply due to the politics of it and the uncertainties regarding MDs matching to DO positions.
     
  17. ChiTownBHawks

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    So, genuinely curious here but why the peds mention? There have been a few peds threads regarding being a DO and matching at a top tier program--- the consensus in said thread(s) was that top tier peds was not out of the question. One of the threads even broke down the "top" 20-30 peds programs by amount of DOs: the majority of them had DOs.

    Seriously just wanting more info. here so I can further educate myself-- not trying to stir the pot.
     
  18. AlbinoHawk DO

    AlbinoHawk DO Student Osteopath 2+ Year Member

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    How is this a question? CCOM is overpriced and PCOM lets you live in Philly. You can probably even land a summer research internship at Penn.
     
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  19. JimmyB123

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    Chicago > Philly in terms of things to do AND in terms of the amount of medicine being practiced
     
  20. DloopF2

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    There is no way you can prove that. So its absolute nonsense.

    Philly is short ride to New York and D.C. There is plenty to do.
     
  21. ananasmed

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    It's flyover syndrome. Coastal people tend to forget about Chicago's existence :p But seriously Philly vs. Chicago is probably a personal preference thing.
     
  22. JimmyB123

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    Philly is a tiny town compared to Chicago but I agree
     
  23. JPickos9989

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    http://greatist.com/discover/highes...=opengraph&utm_campaign=highest-rated-doctors

    Chicago over Philly. lol

    But seriously, OP has some great options. You get the lucky opportunity to trust your gut instinct with each school and I personally wouldn't discount how you felt when you were ON CAMPUS. Take note of things that felt right and those that didn't feel right and then determine if they are major or minor attributes of the school. Price is also a big one and how you feel about being away from family will play a role as well, do you want to be able to go home if need be? Or is waiting until Xmas break gonna work for you?

    In my opinion, your match opportunities aren't going to be drastically different between the three schools, especially with the fields you are interested in.
     
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  24. user3

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    sigh, CCOM would be an amazing option if they just lowered their tuition a bit.
     
  25. JimmyB123

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    Public Service Loan Forgiveness is a great option if you have high debt. You only have to pay your student loans for 10 years (which includes residency). And you're paying 15% max of annual income. Yeah, you have to work for a government run hospital or something but I think it's something to consider if you attend s school, like say, CCOM
     
  26. user3

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    -not all residencies are eligible for PSLF.
    -As soon as the first wave of highly paid professionals receives hundreds of thousands of student loans forgiven tax free, the media will have a field day-- and the program will likely be changed. The best we can hope will be for no retro-active changes to current borrowers, but even that is not a guarantee.
     
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  27. ChiTownBHawks

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  28. cliquesh

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    CHOP has taken a few DOs in recent years. What other "top" programs have DOs? I'm not saying a DO cannot match somewhere decent. Rainbow babies and Jeff/DuPont take DOs, for instance. It isn't really a big deal.
     
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  29. AlbinoHawk DO

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    Cost.
     
  30. ChiTownBHawks

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    My phone won't let me paste the thread link.

    Cinci, Milwaukee, Emory, Denver, Baylor, and Nationwide to name a few.
     
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  31. SkipJunior

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    It's silly to say one city is better than the other because there are so many personal subjective factors involved in making such an important life altering decision. For example, if someone has family living at or near Chicago, then Chicago might automatically be the better option and vice versa. If someone has grown up near or in Philly, Philly might be the better decision due to a higher comfort level. Yes, objective factors like cost and match lists need to be considered but one should not discount the importance of subjective factors
     

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