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My friend's planning to apply to Pedo... and he wants to know if it's on a match program and if it is when the match date usually happens...

what bout GPR's and AEGD? (just curious)
 
Stargirl,

Pedo, to my knowledge, doesn't participate in the MATCH program (the medical one), although some specialties do.

It DOES participate in the dental "match" program which is PASS.

You can get all the info on dates and schools via the PASS website at:

www.adea.org

Look for the PASS link.

FYI, January 9, 2004 is the date that the rank order match list must be submitted for the PASS programs you are interested in. Ortho is the only specialty that has a two-phase match process, and that list has to be submitted right before Thanksgiving, I believe.
 
Pedo uses a MATCH program and usually there is a post match also for programs that didn't fill there alotted spots the first time around. Post match intails more interviews and then more decsions for you and the program directors. Check out www.aapd.org , they may explain things better and it has a list of all programs in the US and lots of contact info. Hope this helps....maybe I'll run into you Stargirl...you thinking about pedo too....
T2006
 
hey Temple2006...

no i am not thinking bout Pedo...

Do you know what the odds of getting into a Pedo residency is?

I'm most likely going to do a GPR or AEGD, and want to go to the same location that the my friend who's planning to apply to Pedo is going to... we're applying the same year (06). I just wanted to figure out the time frame of when in the Yr he'll find out where he'll be, and hopefully I can figure out a way to be in that location...
 
Originally posted by ItsGavinC
It DOES participate in the dental "match" program which is PASS.

FYI, January 9, 2004 is the date that the rank order match list must be submitted for the PASS programs you are interested in. Ortho is the only specialty that has a two-phase match process, and that list has to be submitted right before Thanksgiving, I believe.

Gavin, this isn't entirely correct.

There is a dental MATCH program which is totally separate from PASS. It is administered by National Matching Services, NMS, who also administers matches for other professions, including the medical match. www.natmatch.org

Applying to post-grad is kinda confusing with all these acronyms. First, as a dental student, you apply to PASS. PASS is the dental student version of AADSAS. They are actually both administered by the same people at the ADEA in Washington, DC. PASS will process your essay, letters of rec, dental transcript, resume, etc., and send them to the programs you indicate that you want to receive your PASS materials. After sending your stuff into PASS, you have to look at the program you applied to and see if they want any additional info sent to them that PASS did not process - such as photographs or college transcripts. It is up to you to make sure you get them the extra stuff.

However, there are programs that don't participate in PASS. For these programs, you have to use the application that the program provides and be sure to send them all the stuff they want (essay, letters of rec, transcripts, etc). They basically want everything you just did for PASS, but don't participate with PASS, it's very irritating.

All of these programs, whether they participate in PASS or not, can be part of MATCH. When you are doing application stuff, you have to remember to send a check to MATCH so you can register with them and obtain a MATCH number. Now, you go interview with your programs (PASS or non-PASS). After the interviews, you go on the MATCH website and rank your programs prior to the deadlines Gavin posted. Then, on MATCH day, you find out which program you will be attending. You only get one acceptance. There is a possibility that you might not match. In that case, a list comes out that day of programs who did not fill their slots and you contact the programs individually to see if you can arrange something with them.

The ortho MATCH is held earlier than everyone else. My guess is b/c there is a higher chance that applicants to ortho will not match into a program b/c there are way more applicants than there are spots. This would give the applicants a chance to still apply and interview for other residencies and participate in the second match.

There are 4 possible combinations then of post-grad programs:
1. Part of PASS, participates in MATCH
2. Not part of PASS (own application), participates in MATCH
3. Part of PASS, does not participate in MATCH
4. Not part of PASS (own application), does not participate in MATCH

Programs that are described by #3 & 4 have to let you know of their decision to accept you or not before the MATCH process occurs. This way, if you are accepted by the program and you decide to go there, you have to drop out of the MATCH. MATCH was designed so every applicant will only get one acceptance. This is supposed to eliminate applicants hoarding multiple acceptances and taking tons of time to decide which program to attend, making it tough for the program to fill its slots and for other applicants to get a response. In the end, you can only attend one program anyways, so they figure the MATCH system is the best way to give you that one acceptance.

Stargirl - Most pedo programs are part of both PASS & MATCH. Pedo is getting to be more competitive, but I've been told that with a class standing in the top half and the right personality, you can get in. Personality should count for a lot in any aspect of dentistry, but it matters more in Pedo. Also, experiences demonstrating why Pedo is for you should help as well.
 
Hi,
I wanted to know a little about the Matching process. Suppose u get an interview from an ortho program that doesnot participate in Match and they say that they have selected u (naturally before the match result comes out), in that case what do u do, if your favorite program is a different one and participates in match. so u r in a catch 22 situation, if u accept the program and later learn that u are matched to your favorite program, what do u do? and if u dont accept it counting that u will be matched somewhere, if not the first, then the second choice.. and then dont match anywhere!! i know this is confusing, but i think there must be candidates who have probably gone thru this and can guide me on this a bit.
Thanks.
 
Got my MATCH instructions in the mail the other day. It specifically states in there that if you accept a position in a non-match program, you must drop out of the MATCH. I don't see how it could be a catch-22 situation. You would never find out if you matched because you have already dropped out of consideration. Once MATCH results come out, they are binding.

The whole point of MATCH is to prevent the situation you just described - to prevent applicants from holding more than one acceptance. In the end you can only attend one program. If you don't want to attend the non-MATCH program and your first choice participates in MATCH, then you can always give up the acceptance and hope you get a spot in the match process. But you should have known before you applied if you wanted to attend that program or not so you wouldn't have ended up in that situation in the first place.

I don't understand why you would be questioning a guaranteed acceptance. Why would you apply somewhere you don't want to attend? What's the point in that? Because what if they accept you, then what? Better to have left that spot for someone who might have actually wanted to attend that program and wasn't applying on a whim "let's see if I get in" like the applicant did in the scenario you described. Of course, that is just my opinion...
 
HI,
I am sorry for not conveying this correctly.. What I meant was that the non-match program (say prog-X) was the third or the fourth choice of the applicant, he/she wouldnot apply if he hated the program, he/she likes the program, but there are a couple of other match programs that are preferred due to reasons like location, tuition or other things... And then u get an acceptance from prog X before the Match result comes out. Once u accept it, do u have to withdraw from Match even after submitting the Rank order list. and if u dont withdraw and u match somewhere, can u cancel your admission in the prog-X, because the Match results have to be accepted and one has to abide by them.
Thanks.
 
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