PEM fellowship 2021!!!

BurgerWithEggs · Sep 14, 2020

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center

rakki55 · Sep 15, 2020

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin

Carveraw · Sep 15, 2020

Adding another waitlist

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin

AelinAG · Sep 17, 2020

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin

rakki55 · Sep 18, 2020

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14, 9/15
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14, 9/17

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin
18R) Harbor-UCLA

balognasammich · Sep 18, 2020

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14, 9/15
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14, 9/17
71) Northwell/Cohen Children's 9/18

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin
18R) Harbor-UCLA

AelinAG · Sep 18, 2020

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14, 9/15
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14, 9/17
71) Northwell/Cohen Children's 9/18
72) Tower-St Chris 9/18

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin
18R) Harbor-UCLA

DK2014 · Sep 21, 2020

Anyone have more waitlists than interviews? Should I be worried that I only have two interviews?

BlackDogBrownDog · Sep 21, 2020

DK2014 said:
Anyone have more waitlists than interviews? Should I be worried that I only have two interviews?

TBH, 2 is a little risky for the match, but I think this is a weird season where people applied to way more places than they usually would. I know many well-qualified people who have 3-5 interviews that would probably normally have 10-12. Virtual interviews are easier and cheaper, therefore people are probably hanging on to interviews that they may not truly need or want. I think we all need to continue to be very mindful that others may be dying for an interview that we might not really want. I think it’s very possible you’ll get off the waitlists as people start to interview and realize that virtual interviews are exhausting! Fingers crossed!

also- waitlists are way better than rejections so it’s great you have a ton!

bzfbb · Sep 22, 2020

BlackDogBrownDog said:
TBH, 2 is a little risky for the match, but I think this is a weird season where people applied to way more places than they usually would. I know many well-qualified people who have 3-5 interviews that would probably normally have 10-12. Virtual interviews are easier and cheaper, therefore people are probably hanging on to interviews that they may not truly need or want. I think we all need to continue to be very mindful that others may be dying for an interview that we might not really want. I think it’s very possible you’ll get off the waitlists as people start to interview and realize that virtual interviews are exhausting! Fingers crossed!

also- waitlists are way better than rejections so it’s great you have a ton!

I agree -- I already know some people who are starting to cancel interviews! If I can get a little more of a "wink wink" from my home program, I will also start canceling several interviews shortly. This is definitely a crazy cycle. Hoping for the best for everyone

Carveraw · Sep 22, 2020

Adding rejection. Also I agree with the above statements of this being a very odd cycle and I think it’s going to make for a very interesting match and potential scramble IMO

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14, 9/15
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14, 9/17
71) Northwell/Cohen Children's 9/18
72) Tower-St Chris 9/18

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin
18R) Harbor-UCLA
19R) Louisville

svkvnskr · Sep 23, 2020

I have only one interview, from my home program....

rakki55 · Sep 23, 2020

Does anyone know if we should anticipate hearing from all of the programs we applied to? Is there a possibility we'll be in limbo forever?

Carveraw · Sep 23, 2020

rakki55 said:
Does anyone know if we should anticipate hearing from all of the programs we applied to? Is there a possibility we'll be in limbo forever?

I’m anticipating limbo for a bit or potentially just not hearing at all. Although, most of what has come in later for has been waitlist or rejections.

AelinAG · Sep 23, 2020

Adding to rejections and waitlists...keep the hope up guys!! It's a crazy season

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14, 9/15
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14, 9/17
71) Northwell/Cohen Children's 9/18
72) Tower-St Chris 9/18

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins
8W) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin
18R) Harbor-UCLA
19R) Louisville
20R) Boston Children's

Maeby Funke · Sep 23, 2020

Has anyone heard from Morristown?

Also, why does it say their website "We typically interview candidates on Tuesdays from the first week of November through the end of January"? Do they not have the same match date as the other programs?

HelloEE · Sep 24, 2020

Maeby Funke said:
Has anyone heard from Morristown?

Also, why does it say their website "We typically interview candidates on Tuesdays from the first week of November through the end of January"? Do they not have the same match date as the other programs?

Morristown is still reviewing applications

thalamus123 · Sep 24, 2020

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14, 9/15
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14, 9/17
71) Northwell/Cohen Children's 9/18
72) Tower-St Chris 9/18
73) Buffalo 9/21
74) Morristown 9/24

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins
8W) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin
18R) Harbor-UCLA
19R) Louisville
20R) Boston Children's

balognasammich · Sep 24, 2020

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14, 9/15
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14, 9/17
71) Northwell/Cohen Children's 9/18
72) Tower-St Chris 9/18
73) Buffalo 9/21
74) Morristown 9/24
75) Mt Sinai 9/22

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins
8W) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin
18R) Harbor-UCLA
19R) Louisville
20R) Boston Children's

Carveraw · Sep 25, 2020

Adding waitlist

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14, 9/15
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14, 9/17
71) Northwell/Cohen Children's 9/18
72) Tower-St Chris 9/18
73) Buffalo 9/21
74) Morristown 9/24
75) Mt Sinai 9/22

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins
8W) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
9W) UAB

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin
18R) Harbor-UCLA
19R) Louisville
20R) Boston Children's

greenshoekid · Sep 25, 2020

Adding OHSU

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14, 9/15
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14, 9/17
71) Northwell/Cohen Children's 9/18
72) Tower-St Chris 9/18
73) Buffalo 9/21
74) Morristown 9/24
75) Mt Sinai 9/22
76) OHSU 9/25

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins
8W) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
9W) UAB

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin
18R) Harbor-UCLA
19R) Louisville
20R) Boston Children's

zbroca · Sep 29, 2020

Hey guys,

Just wondering if there are more interviews coming or are most programs done with sending out invites?
Any thoughts?
Thanks.

greenshoekid · Oct 2, 2020

zbroca said:
Hey guys,

Just wondering if there are more interviews coming or are most programs done with sending out invites?
Any thoughts?
Thanks.

Unfortunately, I get the sense that most are done sending invites. My PD said he was done with the first round of invites about a month ago. Many programs got more applications than they ever have, so they had more invites to send out in the first place. I also don't think as many will cancel interviews since they're much easier to do over zoom. That's my pessimistic opinion but obviously have no way of actually knowing.

DK2014 · Oct 2, 2020

Anyone actually successfully got off a waitlist and receive an interview? Waitlist seems like rejection now.

BurgerWithEggs · Oct 2, 2020

DK2014 said:
Anyone actually successfully got off a waitlist and receive an interview? Waitlist seems like rejection now.

Not yet. Still on two waitlists, haven't heard back from either yet, doesn't feel like I'll get off either waitlist. I wonder if/when it would be appropriate to reach out to those programs...???

bzfbb · Oct 2, 2020

DK2014 said:
Anyone actually successfully got off a waitlist and receive an interview? Waitlist seems like rejection now.

I think I got off an “internal” waitlist — I was never notified I was on a waitlist, however I do know the big round of first interview invites had gone out about 3-4 weeks prior, and then I received an email just recently with an interview invite but they only gave me one date as an option. So looks a lot like getting off a waitlist to me! I would say there’s still a little hope

KG227 · Oct 4, 2020

Anyone know the difference between Baylor’s PEM program and Univ Texas Health Science Center in Houston’s PEM program?

BlackDogBrownDog · Oct 5, 2020

KG227 said:
Anyone know the difference between Baylor’s PEM program and Univ Texas Health Science Center in Houston’s PEM program?

Both with big patient volume, both level 1, baylor takes more fellows and has more residents. I believe ut houston has a burn center; they’re down the street from each other. Other things related to benefits etc I don’t know. Anything specific you’re curious about?

KG227 · Oct 6, 2020

BlackDogBrownDog said:
Both with big patient volume, both level 1, baylor takes more fellows and has more residents. I believe ut houston has a burn center; they’re down the street from each other. Other things related to benefits etc I don’t know. Anything specific you’re curious about?

Thanks for that answer. It just was strange to me to have two Level 1 trauma centers literally down the street from each other and didn’t know if one offered a superior training experience to the other or if it’s just that there’s enough volume to go around.

BlackDogBrownDog · Oct 6, 2020

KG227 said:
Thanks for that answer. It just was strange to me to have two Level 1 trauma centers literally down the street from each other and didn’t know if one offered a superior training experience to the other or if it’s just that there’s enough volume to go around.

I think it Depends on what youre looking for in a program, honestly. I’m sure they both offer excellent training and there are sufficient patient volumes to have two level one trauma centers next to each other. They’re both very busy

zbroca · Oct 7, 2020

greenshoekid said:
Unfortunately, I get the sense that most are done sending invites. My PD said he was done with the first round of invites about a month ago. Many programs got more applications than they ever have, so they had more invites to send out in the first place. I also don't think as many will cancel interviews since they're much easier to do over zoom. That's my pessimistic opinion but obviously have no way of actually knowing.

Yeah, I agree. I dont think more invites are coming now. I might reach out to a few programs I am interested just to check in.
Thanks for replying though.

DK2014 · Oct 11, 2020

Still stuck with two interviews... anyone know how many interviews you need to have 90% match rate?

bzfbb · Oct 13, 2020

DK2014 said:
Still stuck with two interviews... anyone know how many interviews you need to have 90% match rate?

it's so hard to say -- we all know this cycle is going to be totally different than any previous cycle. The last data that was published was from 2018; at that time, an applicant with 2 ranks had between a 60-80ish % chance of matching depending on what type of graduate they were (USMD, IMG, etc). Again, I no clue how we could extrapolate that data to this year though

Carveraw · Oct 13, 2020

Adding rejection. However, laughing at the rejection email .. it was blunt to say the least.

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14, 9/15
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14, 9/17
71) Northwell/Cohen Children's 9/18
72) Tower-St Chris 9/18
73) Buffalo 9/21
74) Morristown 9/24
75) Mt Sinai 9/22
76) OHSU 9/25

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins
8W) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
9W) UAB

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin
18R) Harbor-UCLA
19R) Louisville
20R) Boston Children's
21R) Vanderbilt

iheartpeds17 · Oct 14, 2020

Another rejection

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14, 9/15
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14, 9/17
71) Northwell/Cohen Children's 9/18
72) Tower-St Chris 9/18
73) Buffalo 9/21
74) Morristown 9/24
75) Mt Sinai 9/22
76) OHSU 9/25

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins
8W) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
9W) UAB

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin
18R) Harbor-UCLA
19R) Louisville
20R) Boston Children's
21R) Vanderbilt
22R) Nationwide

KG227 · Oct 16, 2020

Another Rejection. I wonder if there are even gonna be any more invites.

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14, 9/15
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14, 9/17
71) Northwell/Cohen Children's 9/18
72) Tower-St Chris 9/18
73) Buffalo 9/21
74) Morristown 9/24
75) Mt Sinai 9/22
76) OHSU 9/25

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins
8W) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
9W) UAB

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin
18R) Harbor-UCLA
19R) Louisville
20R) Boston Children's
21R) Vanderbilt
22R) Nationwide
23R) U of Chicago

Carveraw · Oct 19, 2020

Also adding another rejection. I feel the same I doubt any further interviews and waitlist seems like a pipe dream

Interviews:
1) Loma Linda 8/14
2) NYPBMH 8/18
3) MUSC 8/17
4) Carolinas Medical Center 8/18, 9/9
5) Wash U in St Louis 8/19, 9/2
6) Memphis 8/20
7) UConn 8/20
8) University of Oklahoma 8/20
9) Beaumont (Royal Oak) 8/20, 9/3
10) VCU 8/20
11) Michigan State 8/20
12) U of Utah 8/20
13) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern 8/21
14) Johns Hopkins 8/21
15) Akron 8/21
16) Phoenix 8/24
17) Newark Beth Israel 8/24
18) Rainbow Babies 8/19, 8/24
19) U of New Mexico 8/24
20) Vanderbilt 8/24
21) Baylor 8/24, 8/31, 9/8
22) Yale 8/25, 9/8
23) Nationwide 8/25
24) UT Austin 8/25, 8/26, 9/10
25) Stanford 8/25
26) EVMS 8/19
27) University of Chicago 8/21, 8/27
28) U of Louisville 8/25
29) Children's Hospital of Michigan 8/26
30) Cincinnati Children's 8/27, 9/16
31) Columbia 8/26
32) Nemours/duPont 8/27, 9/14
33) UTSW 8/27
34) U of Washington/Seattle Children's 8/27, 8/28
35) Medical College of Wisconsin 8/28
36) Children’s Mercy 8/28
37) Children's National (DC) 8/28
38) Montefiore 8/28
39) Wake Forest 8/31
40) University of Texas Health Science Center 8/31
41) Riley Children's (Indianapolis) 8/31
42) St. Louis University Cardinal Glennon 8/31
43) U of Mississippi Medical Center 8/31
44) Minneapolis Children's/Health Partners 8/31
45) UPMC 9/1
46) University of North Carolina 9/1
47) Inova, Virginia 8/31
48) Maimonides 9/1
49) Boston Medical Center 9/1
50) UNLV 9/2, 9/9
51) Rochester 9/2
52) U of Colorado 9/2
53) Emory 9/2, 9/8
54) UMMS Baystate 9/3
55) Orlando Health 9/4, 9/8
56) SUNY Upstate 9/4
57) UCSF 9/4
58) Brown 9/4
59) CHOP 9/4
60) University of Michigan 9/5, 9/8
61) CHLA 9/8
62) Boston Children's 9/8
63) Niklaus Children’s (Miami Children’s) 9/9
64) UF Jacksonville 9/9
65) SUNY Downstate 9/10
66) UC San Diego 9/11
67) Medical College of Georgia 9/11
68) Jacobi 9/14, 9/15
69) Harbor-UCLA 9/14
70) NYU 9/14, 9/17
71) Northwell/Cohen Children's 9/18
72) Tower-St Chris 9/18
73) Buffalo 9/21
74) Morristown 9/24
75) Mt Sinai 9/22
76) OHSU 9/25

Waitlists:
1W) UT Austin
2W) Columbia
3W) Brown
4W) Rainbow Babies
5W) Phoenix
6W) Nationwide
7W) Johns Hopkins
8W) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
9W) UAB

Rejections:
1R) UPMC
2R) Colorado
3R) CHOP
4R) Loma Linda
5R) Rainbow Babies
6R) UCSF
7R) MUSC
8R) U Washington/Seattle Children’s
9R) Yale
10R) Children’s National
11R) Columbia
12R) Orlando Health
13R) Indiana University
14R) Brown University/Hasbro
15R) Lurie Children's/McGaw at Northwestern
16R) Boston Medical Center
17R) Medical College of Wisconsin
18R) Harbor-UCLA
19R) Louisville
20R) Boston Children's
21R) Vanderbilt
22R) Nationwide
23R) U of Chicago
24R) Riley Children’s (Indianapolis)

BlackDogBrownDog · Oct 19, 2020

I received an interview invite today from a program I hadn’t heard anything from- I’m assuming I was on an internal waitlist. I prefer to keep the program anonymous, however trying to give you all hope that either interviews are still being offered or waitlists are moving! Best of luck to everyone

Carveraw · Oct 20, 2020

BlackDogBrownDog said:
I received an interview invite today from a program I hadn’t heard anything from- I’m assuming I was on an internal waitlist. I prefer to keep the program anonymous, however trying to give you all hope that either interviews are still being offered or waitlists are moving! Best of luck to everyone

This is good to know - thanks for the update

thalamus123 · Nov 17, 2020

Does anyone know when programs have to submit their rank list? Is it the same as us on December 2 or earlier?

AelinAG · Nov 19, 2020

thalamus123 said:
Does anyone know when programs have to submit their rank list? Is it the same as us on December 2 or earlier?

I believe it's the same day

blue.jay · Nov 19, 2020

Any idea about PEM job market ? I saw this post in EM group

sum dude said:
For those who want an honest behind scene look on what is going on in EM compensation...we have the perfect storm brewing for trouble. Consider the following PRE-COVID developments:

1) The job market nationally has consolidated over the past 20 years. The majority of clinical EM physicians now work for CMG's. Nothing new
2) HCA and other private hospitals are now starting their own, self-funded residency programs. Many are in rural areas/small hospitals, in hospitals you would not expect to have the wide variety of pathology and commitment to training you would expect to have well-rounded graduates you'd expect from previous years. This was intentional to flood market and lower salaries across the board.
3)Insurers are now the largest employer of physicians in the country. They are buying EM groups. If you think working for Envision is bad, wait till your work for Optum.
4) Same insurers are now seeking legislation which will completely cripple small groups ability to negotiate. If they end balance billing with benchmarks, everyone can expect 20-30% cuts in reimbursement.
5) Insurers and government were shifting patients away from ED, given that they consider it "costly"

Now let's add the Post-Covid World developments:
5) Covid destroyed EM-group revenues across the country. Volume was down 50-60% at max. The majority of places are AT BEST down 20% in volume from their regular monthly averages. Pediatrics, in particular is down 40-50% across the Board.
6) The labor market is as bad as I've ever seen it in medicine. Pretty much any desirable city is not hiring. Pediatric groups are letting people go. Outside of finding part-time work, good luck finding a new job in a desirable city or location. Rural/less desired areas will still have jobs.
7) Many states expanding APP/midlevel scope of practices. Many ED's now have only midlevels staffing. This trend will continue, and push downward pressures on physician reimbursement/hours.
8) Telemedicine is replacing the need for face-face visits in ED. This is further cutting in volume.

What does this mean:
1) For current EM physicians, we've hit the high-water mark in compensation for ED. In real-money terms, we will make less every year (adjusted for inflation). Even not adjusting for inflation, you won't see $300/hr+ like you saw in the forum years ago.
2) New Grads: good luck finding a job. If you get offered a job, take it (Tarzan vine method--swing from one offer to the next--do not say not to an offer unless you are holding on to a job vine, then it's ok to take next offer). You will have zero negotiation power in your contract, despite what your attendings tell you. Expect RVU-based pay where more experienced doctors will drink your milk-shake. You probably won't find a position in a desirable city, and will either have to commute from said city, or work somewhere rural where any slightly complicated patient will need to be transferred (better get real good at ortho, ophtho, urology, gyn etc). If you're Peds EM...I'm sorry, it's going to be rough. You might want to consider UC/part-time/Telemed.
3) Compensation: our pay is going down, gang. Private groups are going to have to come up with non-hospital based revenue streams to survive. Any group with a one hospital contract is likely toast.
4) Med Students: EM is a great field, but likely has jumped the shark in terms of its glory years. It will probably pay closer to what hospitalists make in the future, will be almost all corporate or hospital employee based, and get used to corporate indoctrination where medicine is run like something between the Office, Office Space and Silicon Valley. Eyes Wide Open

Silver lining:
We're moving towards a Specialist-less medical world (thank NP's and PA's for that) where medicine is more heterogeneous and EM can run private clinics, etc. Some entrepreneurial docs who are bold can be "disruptive" and use technology and new businesses to deliver health care, and they will likely bank and change the face of medicine. EM is well-positioned to have grads who capitalize on that thanks to risk-taking, thinking on feet and ability to adapt nature. I suggest grads enhance their business, entrepreneurial and technology skills. Good luck everyone!

FrkyBgStok · Nov 20, 2020

blue.jay said:
Any idea about PEM job market ? I saw this post in EM group

Most PEM positions are either hospital employees or academic/state employees. They just don’t have the democratic groups like they do in the adult side as kids don’t generate nearly as many RVUs in general. So those comments don’t apply.

Generally the job market for PEM is great and there are many spots available, but the job market right now is absolutely terrible due to covid. But that’s expected and will likely bounce back to the norm of plenty of jobs in due time.

AelinAG · Dec 2, 2020

Rank time!! Best of luck to everyone!!

thalamus123 · Dec 15, 2020

Good luck to everyone tomorrow!

Ravizzle · Dec 15, 2020

Good luck everyone! May the odds be ever in your favour!

bzfbb · Dec 17, 2020

hope everyone is happy with their matches! sounds it like was a really tough year though

BurgerWithEggs · Dec 17, 2020

didn't match unfortunately, ranked 6 programs...huge bummer, but I know it was a tougher year than usual for an already very competitive specialty.

for those who matched, congrats!

iheartpeds17 · Dec 17, 2020

Hopefully this helps someone next yr: IMG/ Multiple posters/ 1 publication/ ranked 11 programs/ Did not match.
Congrats to everyone who did match!

Ebhan1234 · Dec 17, 2020

Me too. Didn’t match. What options are you guys looking into? Congratulations to all those who matched

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