Does anybody know what the penalty of dropping out HPSP after taking an oath is (BUT Before dental school starts)?😕
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Penalty of dropping HPSP after taking an oath
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its not so much taking the oath that is binding as it is signing your scholarship contract and your commissioning papers. those are legal documents committing you to certain actions in return for monetary benefits. if you arent going to dental school or have not yet received your scholarship money, you may be able to arrange some sort of 'out', but i wouldnt count on it.
i saw a guy in my chair the other day who had finished 3 years at the Naval Academy and was axed by a Congressionally mandated cut in class size. he ended up having to serve 2 years as an E-2 (super junior enlisted) to payback his debt (or it would have been $100K out of his pocket). lesson to learn: dont jack with the DoD about their contracts...
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I have a very hard time believing a Congressional mandate would kick someone out of the academy and continue to require a payback as an enlisted sailor. Once again, this guy had a contract, and that would be honored by the Navy. Sounds to me like this guy may have gotten kicked out of school for another reason, and then was forced to payback. Either that, or he was completely full of it.
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since i had his dental record in my hand, i can tell you for sure he was a middie at some point. i can also tell you that he admitted to having disciplinary actions taken against him during his first year, but nothing since. my BS meter didnt go off in talking with him, so i took him at his word. regardless, it serves as an object lesson that the Navy will make you honor a contract you have signed with them, in one way or another.
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I'm not sure about the HPSP. When I first joined, you could back out up until you had taken the oath. After the oath, you were locked in and would serve in some capacity. Your recruiter would have the best answer for this one.
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Check this thread out for some information.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=622855&highlight=hpsp+oath
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=622855&highlight=hpsp+oath
Look into Entry Level Separation (ELS), I know it applies to enlisted but I'm not sure about commissioned officers. It basically gives you an easy out up to 180 days after enlisted (maybe after commissioning too?). Are you sure you want out? Have you seen the job market out there? The Major General who represents the dental corps in the Air Force told us recently he has dentists approaching him every day trying to get in but we are full. Either way, take care and good luck with your decision.
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I can speak for the Army side of this. The recruiters would like to say that once you've oathed, and signed the service agreement you can't get out of it. However that is not a true statement. You are not "locked in" to the contract or the oath until you accept financial benefits. Once one dollar of benefits has been paid, you are bound to the terms of your service agreement.
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Same for USAF
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In the Army the decision of when/how to release belongs to Accessions Command - not the recruiters once you have signed up.
Speak with your recruiter first to find out if they have any insight on what needs to be done or who to contact. If needed you can look at getting an attorney.
Personally I would prefer to serve with people that want to be in - so best of luck.
