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bikedoc1021 said:don't pigeon-hole yourself into a perticular field of medicine you want to go into. both my interviews this year harped on that basically saying "you don't know what you want to do yet, you aren't in med school". basically saying, you aren't smart enough or educated enough to know yet. just a thought.
Flopotomist said:One of the biggest no-nos that I see people do on here is to consider the PS as your personal confessional or therapist. The PS is NOT the time to work through your personal problems.
The French term for "Doctors without Borders". M-something Sans Frontieres......Duchess742 said:![]()
btw, what is MSF?
Duchess742 said:![]()
btw, what is MSF?
Zuerst said:I took a MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundation) course prior to getting my motorcycle license. 😀
That's probably totally unrelated to that MSF though... 😛
But then where would we get donor organs?Duchess742 said:i dunno...i think motorcycle safety could be worthy of a medical field 😉
willow18 said:Don't do the "When I was an EMT/Medic/whatever, I saved a life" bit. Most adcom members have saved 20 for every one of yours.
I actually thought at one time of taking the opposite approach and talking about losing a friend of mine in a car accident. He coded while I was working on him....as bad as it sounds to use such a horrible event as fodder for a PS, that was a major hurdle I had to overcome (the guilt I felt for his death even though I did everything I could) in order to get back to working in the medical field and I figured it would provide valuable insight into my ability to get past anything that stands in my way.tacrum43 said:I included a story like that in my personal statement, and a couple of my interviewers brought it up in a positive way. They had obviously just read it shortly before I walked in and it provided a good conversation starter. Plus, one told me that I had a very good PS straight out. So I think that while they have certainly done a lot more life saving, they were happy to see my enthusiasm for medicine and helping people come through.
Then again, waitlists all around so who knows? But I really don't think that was because of my PS.
DropkickMurphy said:I agree with everything that was said, but would recommend the PKBoi take BikeDoc's advice to not pigeonhole oneself, even if you know for certain you want to go abroad and work with MSF. Saying something to that effect will come across as being trite, conceited and probably won't be taken at face value but rather as the underhanded attempt of a premed to get his foot in the door.
I'm planning on being quite honest that I have wavered several times over the years in my desire to be a physician, but have always come back to it as the only really fulfilling thing I can see myself doing after having worked in several different career fields (health care, radio, the funeral industry, and the military).
thedelicatessen said:What are some things not to do in writing the personal statement? What are some hackneyed topics to be avoided?
desicanuk said:1. my grandfather was sick from x disease and thats what made me want to become a doctor (or any variation)
2. i was inspired by the tv show Scrubs / E.R / House
3. my dad is a doctor, my grand dad is a doctor, so i must be one
4. ive dreamed of this since i was 4 years old
5. my parents are indian and have forced me into both a career in medicine and marriage soon their after.
6. i was inspired by a drug filled afternoon with my stoner friends who felt it would be "real cool" to "save the world and stuff"

Pkboi24 said:What if my EC's can back this up? (look at my mdapp) Surely, they must know that some people who claim to want to do MSF are sincere. I don't want to do it for the majority of my life, just every 5 years or so until I can't anymore. Would this still be consider a ploy to get my foot in the door?
I would appreciate your advice on this DropkickMurphy as you seem to know very well why you want to become a physician, but I'm also aware of your doubts towards international medical aid. If you could offer some unbias advice (if such things exist) I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
DrWorkNeverDone said:I had a question about the family illness. What if you are using that as your reasoning for troubles in school? My father has manic depression and can do some crazy things sometimes that takes me away from school...Should I put this? I also have had a bad past year because of deaths in the family, never really had to deal with my spouse before or myself with deaths during school time. Therefore, grades dropped. I don't want it to come off as an excuse, but obviously I had to take time out throughout my college career for family...How do you incorporate all this without it coming off bad?
Stupid question: do we have people to read personal statements? If so I wouldn't mind getting some advice, I am not applying till June 2007 but have been working on it here and there. Anyone? Thanks
DrWorkNeverDone said:I had a question about the family illness. What if you are using that as your reasoning for troubles in school? My father has manic depression and can do some crazy things sometimes that takes me away from school...Should I put this? I also have had a bad past year because of deaths in the family, never really had to deal with my spouse before or myself with deaths during school time. Therefore, grades dropped. I don't want it to come off as an excuse, but obviously I had to take time out throughout my college career for family...How do you incorporate all this without it coming off bad?
Stupid question: do we have people to read personal statements? If so I wouldn't mind getting some advice, I am not applying till June 2007 but have been working on it here and there. Anyone? Thanks
You need to realize that MSF is MANY years down the road for you. You have to do 4 years of medical school and then 3-5 years of residency before you will have the skills they need. Even then, they prefer doctors with experience practicing in their fields. MSF can afford to pre-screen for only the most qualified candidates. Plus, you need to remember that if you are deeply in debt from school loans/car debt/mortgage/etc MSF looks at that as a negative for you, because who is going to pay your bills for you while you have no income?What if my EC's can back this up? (look at my mdapp) Surely, they must know that some people who claim to want to do MSF are sincere. I don't want to do it for the majority of my life, just every 5 years or so until I can't anymore. Would this still be consider a ploy to get my foot in the door?
You need to remember that the adcom could view this as a reason NOT to take you. What if it keeps happening while you are in medical school? The school doesn't want to have to deal with that if they can help it. Also, no matter how immoral you may think it, some adcom members may consider you high-risk to develop mental health issues yourself. In an ideal world no one would judge you based on your father's illness, but we don't live in that world.I had a question about the family illness. What if you are using that as your reasoning for troubles in school? My father has manic depression and can do some crazy things sometimes that takes me away from school...Should I put this? I also have had a bad past year because of deaths in the family, never really had to deal with my spouse before or myself with deaths during school time. Therefore, grades dropped. I don't want it to come off as an excuse, but obviously I had to take time out throughout my college career for family...How do you incorporate all this without it coming off bad?
If you have the EC's to back it up, then go for it. When you get accepted (and I have no doubt you will), then I will shake your hand and buy you a beer.Pkboi24 said:What if my EC's can back this up? (look at my mdapp) Surely, they must know that some people who claim to want to do MSF are sincere. I don't want to do it for the majority of my life, just every 5 years or so until I can't anymore. Would this still be consider a ploy to get my foot in the door?
I would appreciate your advice on this DropkickMurphy as you seem to know very well why you want to become a physician, but I'm also aware of your doubts towards international medical aid. If you could offer some unbias advice (if such things exist) I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
zimmie256 said:There are lots of people offering advice on personal statements. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=264193
DrWorkNeverDone said:Also, how many words for the PS?
Doctor~Detroit said:here's the opening anecdote of my essay, where i discuss both helping to save a life and overcoming a weakness. are there any grammatical errors i should flag?
"The man in front of me had no choice but to deliver a fatal shock to himself, and hope that his female companion of love could then revive him. This happened a couple weeks ago in an alley dental clinic in China, in a room crowded with about 100 people. The shock was necessary because the man had a device implanted in his brain that would shortly explode and kill him for good. This was the moment I knew I had to be a doctor. As the man shocked himself into a code and the woman began to work on him, everyone else in the room just sat in their seats and stared. I, on the other hand, felt this urge to help out in some way. I felt this urge setting me apart from the other folks in the room that day, and I still have strong feelings of how much more I want to help others compared to the average person. As the woman started CPR, I scooted to the edge of my seat and uttered "come on, lady." I was a true cheerleader of life. The woman quickly scanned the office while doing CPR, and came across something that appeared to be a crash cart. Just as I was about to cry out "look in the cart," the woman started the man's heart back up using CPR! I hung around while they made out, but she never thanked me for my assistance. It was then that I had to overcome a personal obstacle, and realize that saving lives is often a thankless task and so the most heartfelt thanks to myself should come from myself. At the end of the day, it's not so much about the patients in front of you, but how they let yourself make you feel for yourself. Unlike other applicants who have greedy needs for even more rewards, the financial rewards medicine offers is thanks enough for me.
Really, since I was nine I knew that I would one day thanklessly save lives as a pathologist, and CSI has since confirmed that . . . "
oh crap! i forgot to put two spaces after periods!
No worries, you don't need two spaces.Doctor~Detroit said:oh crap! i forgot to put two spaces after periods!
desicanuk said:I hate Tom Cruise.
Will Ferrell said:Come on, Tom Cruise isn't that bad! I know people knock him all the time, but doesn't he have the right to be a little eccentric.... he is TOM CRUISE!?!
There is a genre known as the Sirens Screaming in the Night amongst essays. Avoid it. If you have an interesting story about your EMT days, go for it, but don't try to do the 'No $hit, there I was' approach. It's been done to death.willow18 said:Don't do the "When I was an EMT/Medic/whatever, I saved a life" bit. Most adcom members have saved 20 for every one of yours.
signomi said:1) Do not write a paragraph about how much you hate your current job and your current colleagues.
It all depends on your wording. You should say that medicine is more suited for you but shouldn't say you despise your current occupation. Essentially you dont want to make it look like you're running away from your current job.jota_jota said:Just curious about why you think this. For a career changer, don't you think that it is important to tell a bit about why one wants to change their career from <whatever> to medicine.
I realize that I didn't say exactly what you said above, but the fact is that I don't like my current career and think that medicine is a career that is better suited for me (and, that was going to be a theme, if not THE theme of my PS)
Jota
signomi said:I have read several where it was an angry diatribe, not a reasoned discussion of why it wasn't the perfect career for the person. Insulting colleagues/management/the entire career field is not a good thing.
