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Personality for anesthesiology
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It’s a balance of both. Those at the extremes come toward the middle somewhat, but we are who we are.
For example, I’m usually cool and collected and nothing really phases me, but I like to be in the action. But, one of my colleagues goes balls to wall at any hint of action.
For example, I’m usually cool and collected and nothing really phases me, but I like to be in the action. But, one of my colleagues goes balls to wall at any hint of action.
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Servile and calm. In that order.Which type of personality suits it best?
I’m chill most of the time but love the adrenaline rushes.
What makes a good anesthesiologist?
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Which type of personality suits it best?
I’m chill most of the time but love the adrenaline rushes.
What makes a good anesthesiologist?
Being a doormat and spineless
Blonde with a great "personality" 😉Which type of personality suits it best?
I’m chill most of the time but love the adrenaline rushes.
What makes a good anesthesiologist?
Impossible speed and agility, ice coursing through veins, and the piercing blue eyes of a Siberian husky.
Impossible speed and agility, ice coursing through veins, and the piercing blue eyes of a Siberian husky.
just don't let the surgeon Arya Stark you with their 10 blade
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Val Kilmer?Impossible speed and agility, ice coursing through veins, and the piercing blue eyes of a Siberian husky.
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Val Kilmer?
Not the current version.
ok see, THIS is why I want to be an anesthesiologist. Look at this community.
IM = too much mindgasms & dealing too much with patients (Hospitalist hours are good I guess), no procedures*
albeit, I do like connections & there's always a chance to specialize
psychiatry = too much crazy
surgery = i want to see my family
radiology = automation
pathology = no patients, without a great program, it'll be just preparing slides for the rest of my life
I hope I get anesthesiology, I'll be as servile as you want me to be
IM = too much mindgasms & dealing too much with patients (Hospitalist hours are good I guess), no procedures*
albeit, I do like connections & there's always a chance to specialize
psychiatry = too much crazy
surgery = i want to see my family
radiology = automation
pathology = no patients, without a great program, it'll be just preparing slides for the rest of my life
I hope I get anesthesiology, I'll be as servile as you want me to be
Laid-back until people start trying to do stupid s*** and you can flip that switch into “Awwww, helll no.” mode.
C’mon man....gotta say “Spoiler Alert”![]()
just don't let the surgeon Arya Stark you with their 10 blade
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The three A’s
Able
Affable
Available
If that doesn’t give you an idea then I like to refer back to my baseball days when I was a catcher. The catcher (anesthesiologist) is the one really controlling the game (operation). They call the pitches. They position the infield. They talk the pitcher down off the cliff when they are screwing up. They are in every game, not just one or two a week (like every surgery, not just on the operating days). But most importantly they are in the background making sure everything is going as planned. The surgeon is like the pitcher, frail and temperamental. Easily rattled. You must be able to handle them. Keep them focused for the pts
The correlation is just so damn perfect in my mind. The catcher and the anesthesiologist are behind the scene, ether screen, mask. While the pitcher surgeon is out there in the spotlight. Demanding all the attention.
Able
Affable
Available
If that doesn’t give you an idea then I like to refer back to my baseball days when I was a catcher. The catcher (anesthesiologist) is the one really controlling the game (operation). They call the pitches. They position the infield. They talk the pitcher down off the cliff when they are screwing up. They are in every game, not just one or two a week (like every surgery, not just on the operating days). But most importantly they are in the background making sure everything is going as planned. The surgeon is like the pitcher, frail and temperamental. Easily rattled. You must be able to handle them. Keep them focused for the pts
The correlation is just so damn perfect in my mind. The catcher and the anesthesiologist are behind the scene, ether screen, mask. While the pitcher surgeon is out there in the spotlight. Demanding all the attention.
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I think Jet mentioned the “offensive line” of medicine. No one comes to see you in action, and if you do a good job, people really only notice the quarterback, running back and receivers. Sure they can screw up as well. But without a productive O-line, everyone will look bad. I thought that was a good analogy by him. For those that don’t like contact sports @Noyac, I suppose baseball would be the next best analogy. 😉
Who willingly signs up to take a beating every night??The three A’s
Able
Affable
Available
If that doesn’t give you an idea then I like to refer back to my baseball days when I was a catcher. The catcher (anesthesiologist) is the one really controlling the game (operation). They call the pitches. They position the infield. They talk the pitcher down off the cliff when they are screwing up. They are in every game, not just one or two a week (like every surgery, not just on the operating days). But most importantly they are in the background making sure everything is going as planned. The surgeon is like the pitcher, frail and temperamental. Easily rattled. You must be able to handle them. Keep them focused for the pts
The correlation is just so damn perfect in my mind. The catcher and the anesthesiologist are behind the scene, ether screen, mask. While the pitcher surgeon is out there in the spotlight. Demanding all the attention.
It aired a week ago.C’mon man....gotta say “Spoiler Alert”
But ... I put spoiler tag in the post (and your quote of the post). 🙂
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deleted171991
Also by nurses and every less educated individual in the hospital. That's when they don't call you by your first name.Be prepared to be called 'anesthesia' every day by surgeons and proceduralists. You won't be addressed as Dr. ZML
Why? Because they can get away with it. That's how little an anesthesiologist matters.
It is not as bad as that. Most of my surgeons called me Dr. XXX. Those not are often old dudes who just say Doc.Also by nurses and every less educated individual in the hospital.
Why? Because they can get away with it. That's how little an anesthesiologist matters.
You need to find another gig less toxic.
Also by nurses and every less educated individual in the hospital. That's when they don't call you by your first name.
Why? Because they can get away with it. That's how little an anesthesiologist matters.
Every time I go on epidural rounds or see a pre-op on the floor, people stop me and ask if I’m “Ortho” or “medicine” or “Urology.” Everyone from MDs to LPNs. I politely say no and walk away, doesn’t bother me much. Happens to all specialties/consultants really.
I did a GI rotation as an IM resident and the two attendings I worked with always addressed anesthesiologist as anesthesia--not as Dr (Can you do this/that anesthesia?, not Dr ABC). But when these GI docs are talking to other physicians, they addressed them as Dr XYZ... Maybe it's not like that everywhere or maybe these 2 GI docs were comfortable with the group of anesthesiologists that worked in the GI suit...Also by nurses and every less educated individual in the hospital. That's when they don't call you by your first name.
Why? Because they can get away with it. That's how little an anesthesiologist matters.
Frankly, I did not like the interaction b/t these proceduralists and the anesthesiologists... It did not appear to me as physician-physician interaction like when other physicians in different specialties are talking to each other. Again, it might be the culture at the hospital that I am training.
It's easier to say anesthesia, rather than nurse blah-blah.
Most likely if you are not going for GI, card, heme/onc or pulm/crit.does everyone agree in this thread that anesthesia is better than IM
I’m a resident but every nurse, scrub tech, residents and other Attending’s including surgery and obgyn refer to me as anesthesia. The only people that refer to me by my first name are some residents and the anesthesia techs. It used to not bother me but as I near my end of the training it has gotten old. When I address people I refer to people as either dr. So and so or by their first name. We are the only physicians in medicine that get addressed in that matter.
Just respond to them as “tech” or “nurse”, it isn’t hard. They figure it out pretty fast. That was my residency routine. Surgeons were their specialty, except the staff who I treated with the “utmost respect”.
Now I am called by my first name, as is every nurse/tech/surgeon/other MD around, except in front of awake patients when it is Dr XYZ. They all used the full Dr XYZ until I told them it was fine to go with my first name.
Now I am called by my first name, as is every nurse/tech/surgeon/other MD around, except in front of awake patients when it is Dr XYZ. They all used the full Dr XYZ until I told them it was fine to go with my first name.
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deleted171991
It's not. It's pretty widespread. It's the relationship between master and servant. Whoever brings the business is the master.I did a GI rotation as an IM resident and the two attendings I worked with always addressed anesthesiologist as anesthesia--not as Dr (Can you do this/that anesthesia?, not Dr ABC). But when these GI docs are talking to other physicians, they addressed them as Dr XYZ... Maybe it's not like that everywhere or maybe these 2 GI docs were comfortable with the group of anesthesiologists that worked in the GI suit...
Frankly, I did not like the interaction b/t these proceduralists and the anesthesiologists... It did not appear to me as physician-physician interaction like when other physicians in different specialties are talking to each other. Again, it might be the culture at the hospital that I am training.
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Absolutely not. In a normal medical system, not this country, I would say the opposite.does everyone agree in this thread that anesthesia is better than IM
The only people I respect for choosing anesthesia nowadays are the people who couldn't have done better for themselves (because of scores, resume, medical school etc.), or who are obsessed with the specialty and love it despite knowing exactly what they are getting into.
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does everyone agree in this thread that anesthesia is better than IM
No. This thread is about personality types. IM is huge field that can accommodate a variety personalities. Do you think the rheumatologist and the interventional cardiologist have the same personality type?
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I’m WAY behind (season 2 lol) Apparently I’m supposed to at least get to The Red WeddingIt aired a week ago.
But ... I put spoiler tag in the post (and your quote of the post). 🙂
Somewhat.....there are definite pros/consdoes everyone agree in this thread that anesthesia is better than IM
I’m the very later. I LOVE doing hearts but I’m also blessed with 2 cardiac surgeons with good personalities and have good skills. It makes doing pump cases a blessing but, and this is something my money loving partners don’t understand, and that is I would still do hearts for half or even 1/3 the units because I LOVE doing hearts <———-residents, that’s how you pick a fellowship btw, not “will it get me a job” or “will it increase my salary”Absolutely not. In a normal medical system, not this country, I would say the opposite.
The only people I respect for choosing anesthesia nowadays are the people who couldn't have done better for themselves (because of scores, resume, medical school etc.), or who are obsessed with the specialty and love it despite knowing exactly what they are getting into.
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I’m WAY behind (season 2 lol) Apparently I’m supposed to at least get to The Red Wedding
If you’re not hooked by the end of season 4 you should probably get a brain MRI and psych eval.
I’m the very later. I LOVE doing hearts but I’m also blessed with 2 cardiac surgeons with good personalities and have good skills. It makes doing pump cases a blessing but, and this is something my money loving partners don’t understand, and that is I would still do hearts for half or even 1/3 the units because I LOVE doing hearts QUOTE]
Ummm.. sure.. but feels like a moot point if an year’s investment into fellowship gives you neither of the two
I’m working through it. It’s the one good thing about OB call.If you’re not hooked by the end of season 4 you should probably get a brain MRI and psych eval.
The point is that in medicine, especially Anesthesiology, you must absolutely love what you’re doing. The money can change very quickly. It’ll still be good money but probably lower than in the past.
I just loved people I worked with in anesthesiology during my rotation. EVERYBODY was super chill and cracking jokes and a joyful environment. The lifestyle and pay for anesthesia is good too.
I liked the physical exams and finding signs of particular diseases in IM rotation. The paperwork and the hard to deal patients were a pain.
A lot of people took offense about titles and I see where people are coming from. I'm not particularly concerned about it (that doesn't mean I don't like titles).
Meaningful work + meaningful relationships w/ pay + lifestyles that pays off loans ASAP is what i want and anesthesiology looks really enticing
I don't have time to do more away rotations for anesthesia so I need to make a decision IM or anesthesia and I'M STILL NOT SURE
I liked the physical exams and finding signs of particular diseases in IM rotation. The paperwork and the hard to deal patients were a pain.
A lot of people took offense about titles and I see where people are coming from. I'm not particularly concerned about it (that doesn't mean I don't like titles).
Meaningful work + meaningful relationships w/ pay + lifestyles that pays off loans ASAP is what i want and anesthesiology looks really enticing
I don't have time to do more away rotations for anesthesia so I need to make a decision IM or anesthesia and I'M STILL NOT SURE
Hmmm. It gets routine pretty quickly. I love what I do because I am reasonably compensated for a reasonable amount of work. People who do it for the “love of the game” usually do not go into anesthesia....The point is that in medicine, especially Anesthesiology, you must absolutely love what you’re doing. The money can change very quickly. It’ll still be good money but probably lower than in the past.
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The point is that in medicine, especially Anesthesiology, you must absolutely love what you’re doing. The money can change very quickly. It’ll still be good money but probably lower than in the past.
Love is way too strong of a word. I don’t mind going to work everyday, but if I didn’t have to, I could easily think of 500 places I would rather be. However, I do hate call and I don’t even think that word is strong enough to describe my feelings toward call.
That’s true. “Love” is a bit strong.Love is way too strong of a word. I don’t mind going to work everyday, but if I didn’t have to, I could easily think of 500 places I would rather be. However, I do hate call and I don’t even think that word is strong enough to describe my feelings toward call.
Most tolerable, I guess and 1000% agree with you regarding call
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That’s true. “Love” is a bit strong.
Most tolerable, I guess and 1000% agree with you regarding call
Not a lot of careers outside of medicine that give you that midweek post call day freedom.
True, but a handful of other professional careers you can drink during lunch. On Wall Street probably do more than drink.Not a lot of careers outside of medicine that give you that midweek post call day freedom.
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deleted162650
True, but a handful of other professional careers you can drink during lunch.
In Europe it's pretty common for docs to drink during lunch - including surgeons and anesthesiologists.
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In Europe it's pretty common for docs to drink during lunch - including surgeons and anesthesiologists.
AND they (anaesthetists) don't wear masks in theatre.....no clip board nurses with a badge and a gun...
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In Europe it's pretty common for docs to drink during lunch - including surgeons and anesthesiologists.
They have lunch in Europe?
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deleted171991
They have even emancipated their physicians, I hear.They have lunch in Europe?
From chest thumping CRNAs you mean? Sometimes, when I read this forum, I think Norway is a utopia for anesthesiologists' and nurse anesthetists' coexistence. Mind you, a Norski anesthesiologist might feel otherwise, but in my world we tend to respect our attendings. Neither of us get lunches, though*.They have even emancipated their physicians, I hear.
* Except today, when all involved in the sleeve/bypass OR got free lunches from the reps.
Free lunch from the reps? Oh how I miss those days. That is highly frowned upon in the US these days.From chest thumping CRNAs you mean? Sometimes, when I read this forum, I think Norway is a utopia for anesthesiologists' and nurse anesthetists' coexistence. Mind you, a Norski anesthesiologist might feel otherwise, but in my world we tend to respect our attendings. Neither of us get lunches, though*.
* Except today, when all involved in the sleeve/bypass OR got free lunches from the reps.
They have CRNAs in Norway? Please do tell us how you all coexist so wonderfully.
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