Personality types-- an actual poll this time.

[Thearchitect]

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This might be interesting.

If you don't know:

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

 

[ZOT! ZOT!]

Last sentence says it all... Boo Ya! hehe 😀




ESFJ Profile


Extraverted Sensing Feeling Judging
by Joe Butt
Profile: ESFJ
Revision: 2.4
Date of Revision: 20 Jul 03



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Guardians of birthdays, holidays and celebrations, ESFJs are generous entertainers. They enjoy and joyfully observe traditions and are liberal in giving, especially where custom prescribes.
All else being equal, ESFJs enjoy being in charge. They see problems clearly and delegate easily, work hard and play with zest. ESFJs, as do most SJs, bear strong allegiance to rights of seniority. They willingly provide service (which embodies life's meaning) and expect the same from others.

ESFJs are easily wounded. And when wounded, their emotions will not be contained. They by nature "wear their hearts on their sleeves," often exuding warmth and bonhomie, but not infrequently boiling over with the vexation of their souls. Some ESFJs channel these vibrant emotions into moving dramatic performances on stage and screen.

Strong, contradictory forces consume the ESFJ. Their sense of right and wrong wrestles with an overwhelming rescuing, 'mothering' drive. This sometimes results in swift, immediate action taken upon a transgressor, followed by stern reprimand; ultimately, however, the prodigal is wrested from the gallows of their folly, just as the noose tightens and all hope is lost, by the very executioner!

An ESFJ at odds with self is a remarkable sight. When a decision must be made, especially one involving the risk of conflict (abhorrent to ESFJs), there ensues an in-house wrestling match between the aforementioned black-and-white Values and the Nemesis of Discord. The contender pits self against self, once firmly deciding with the Right, then switching to Prudence to forestall hostilities, countered by unswerving Values, ad exhaustium, winner take all.

As caretakers, ESFJs sense danger all around--germs within, the elements without, unscrupulous malefactors, insidious character flaws. The world is a dangerous place, not to be trusted. Not that the ESFJ is paranoid; 'hyper-vigilant' would be more precise. And thus they serve excellently as protectors, outstanding in fields such as medical care and elementary education.

 

[MEG@COOL]

Intp, Have taken one befor an been intj though I believe.

 

[Medikit]

INTJ nearly every time I take the test.

 

[Medikit]

Last sentence says it all... Boo Ya! hehe 😀


And thus they serve excellently as protectors, outstanding in fields such as elementary education.

cool, you want to be a teacher?

 

[BeatArmy]

INTP everytime....
Frighteningly accurate, as well.
Always felt like an individual, the INTP description makes me feel like a robot.

 

[ZOT! ZOT!]

cool, you want to be a teacher?

Yes, I also want to teach, but you should now that editing out of context (especially when the original is within view) is ******ed.

 

[automaton]

the INTP description makes me feel like a robot.

my result was INTP too 😉

 

[TTSD]

INTJ nearly every time I take the test.

Yeah, I've taken many of these tests before.. INTJ every time as well. I guess it does fit me perfectly, I'm constantly in the realm of hypotheticals to practical and scenario-playing. Great, I'm in the same class as Hannibal Lecter ;-)

 

[no-see-um]

Yeah, I've taken many of these tests before.. INTJ every time as well. I guess it does fit me perfectly, I'm constantly in the realm of hypotheticals to practical and scenario-playing. Great, I'm in the same class as Hannibal Lecter ;-)

I got INTJ as well.

Although the Judging aspect, for me, is VERY minimal. I do not see myself as judging at all. (I only got a 1 on that, how can I be?!)

Nothing wrong with INTJ. JFK, they say was INTJ, and other very smart people and 'extroverts' were. Not everyone who acts like an extrovert truly is one. If anything, I would have thought that Abraham Lincoln would have been in this category (except for the Judging part).

 

[kinetic]

cool, you want to be a teacher?

No, he wants to be the protector of birthdays (first sentence).

 

[no-see-um]

No, he wants to be the protector of birthdays (first sentence).

Hey, don't go talking about birthdays like that, Kinetic. 😡

 

[kinetic]

Hey, don't go talking about birthdays like that, Kinetic. 😡

Even birthdays need protectors. 😀 (So do pockets.)

 

[no-see-um]

Even birthdays need protectors. 😀 (So do pockets.)

 

[Swack]

INFP everytime...the third time I've taken this test in 4 years. It says, INFP(Healer) heh is this good? Still, I would prefer INFP(Doctor). I think the first time I took this test at school it said my ideal occupation was that of a plumber

 

[TTSD]

I got INTJ as well.

Although the Judging aspect, for me, is VERY minimal. I do not see myself as judging at all. (I only got a 1 on that, how can I be?!)

Nothing wrong with INTJ. JFK, they say was INTJ, and other very smart people and 'extroverts' were. Not everyone who acts like an extrovert truly is one. If anything, I would have thought that Abraham Lincoln would have been in this category (except for the Judging part).

I don't think they mean Judging as being the Judgemental type as we think of it socially. But judging as in evaluative.

 

[Termwean]

entj

 

[oudoc08]

I was INTJ and I read one of the profiles which said this was "The mastermind" and it also said that this was rare, about 1% of the population. Since the current poll has INTJ as the most popular option, either 1) our population set is skewed, 2) people are fooling themselves, or 3) the test is flawed. As I am somewhat analytical by nature, and rarely believe in single answers to one problem, I would say it is a combination of 1 & 2.

They also list "famous INTJs" and how on earth do they know that Chester A Arthur was an INTJ? Did he keep a journal of his innermost thoughts, secretly loathing his cabinet meetings yet dominating them with different ideas and ways of business? Clearly, this is what made him one of our most ineffective presidents ever. And Calvin Coolidge also. I have never heard "Silent Cal" referred to as a mastermind. I hear more about how he was quick with a clever quip but tried to spend most of his time away from washington, fishing or something. Wasn't that highly respected or thought of as smart, if I remember right.

I postulate your first theory is more correct. People on this forum are not an accurate x-sec of the general population, and in all likelyhood represent probably a 5-10% subsegment. Thus, the current poll figure of around 20% for the INTJ-type personality would equate to the apx. 1% that they article referred to.

 

[N-toxicologist]

INTJ

Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging

Mastermind: (Kiersey)

Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition, it is the contingency planning or entailment organizing role that reaches the highest development in Masterminds. Entailing or contingency planning is not an informative activity, rather it is a directive one in which the planner tells others what to do and in what order to do it. As the organizing capabilities the Masterminds increase so does their inclination to take charge of whatever is going on.

It is in their abilities that Masterminds differ from the other Rationals, while in most of their attitudes they are just like the others. However there is one attitude that sets them apart from other Rationals: they tend to be much more self-confident than the rest, having, for obscure reasons, developed a very strong will. They are rather rare, comprising no more than, say, one percent of the population. Being very judicious, decisions come naturally to them; indeed, they can hardly rest until they have things settled, decided, and set. They are the people who are able to formulate coherent and comprehensive contingency plans, hence contingency organizers or "entailers."

Masterminds will adopt ideas only if they are useful, which is to say if they work efficiently toward accomplishing the Mastermind's well-defined goals. Natural leaders, Masterminds are not at all eager to take command of projects or groups, preferring to stay in the background until others demonstrate their inability to lead. Once in charge, however, Masterminds are the supreme pragmatists, seeing reality as a crucible for refining their strategies for goal-directed action. In a sense, Masterminds approach reality as they would a giant chess board, always seeking strategies that have a high payoff, and always devising contingency plans in case of error or adversity. To the Mastermind, organizational structure and operational procedures are never arbitrary, never set in concrete, but are quite malleable and can be changed, improved, streamlined. In their drive for efficient action, Masterminds are the most open-minded of all the types. No idea is too far-fetched to be entertained-if it is useful. Masterminds are natural brainstormers, always open to new concepts and, in fact, aggressively seeking them. They are also alert to the consequences of applying new ideas or positions. Theories which cannot be made to work are quickly discarded by the Masterminds. On the other hand, Masterminds can be quite ruthless in implementing effective ideas, seldom counting personal cost in terms of time and energy.

 

[sg4runner]

Hmmm. I'm an ISFJ, which I guess is accurate for the most part. The one thing I strongly disagree with is it says ISFJ's are uncomfortable with being in a position of authority, which I am not, so that makes me wonder. Also, there were a few questions where I kept going back and forth between yes and no. I don't know if this means I don't know myself that well or what... On the other hand, for most of the q's I didn't hesitate at all in answering. Did you guys have times when you were not exactly sure about your answer?

Anyway, it was an interesting test, sorry if I got too analytical, I tend to do that 🙂

 

[trauma_junky]

INTJ, I hate the fact that a simple quetioniare can paint me into a corner! I've never done this test before, but it hits the nail on the head.

 

[Thearchitect]

Hmmm. I'm an ISFJ, which I guess is accurate for the most part. The one thing I strongly disagree with is it says ISFJ's are uncomfortable with being in a position of authority, which I am not, so that makes me wonder. Also, there were a few questions where I kept going back and forth between yes and no. I don't know if this means I don't know myself that well or what... On the other hand, for most of the q's I didn't hesitate at all in answering. Did you guys have times when you were not exactly sure about your answer?

Anyway, it was an interesting test, sorry if I got too analytical, I tend to do that 🙂

Yes. In no particular order:

"You have difficulty understanding the notion
of "an approximate decision." "

I doubt I'm the only person that had never heard of an "approximate decision" before.

"When considering a situation you pay more attention to
the current situation and less to a possible sequence of events."

Random possible sequences, ahh, no. But that's what the question states. Your car is on fire, do you think of random sequences of events? Hmm. Maybe I should shave while the electricity still works in the car, but then I might burn up. Then the ambulance would come and pick me up, dead. Then I'd be... It does not say sequences of events that lead to the current situation.

"You are consistent in your habits."

News flash: if you aren't consistent with your habits, THEY AREN'T HABITS.

"Deadlines seem to you to be of relative rather
than absolute importance."

Someone else determines what my deadlines are. Duh.

"You believe the best decision is one which
can be easily changed."

Given no other information, I can't see how anyone else could vote anything but yes for this one.

 

[Zweihander]

I found the over-representation of INTPs in this thread to be rather confusing.

See! I'm confused:
😕

 

[sg4runner]

Yes. In no particular order:

"You have difficulty understanding the notion
of "an approximate decision." "

I doubt I'm the only person that had never heard of an "approximate decision" before.

"When considering a situation you pay more attention to
the current situation and less to a possible sequence of events."

Random possible sequences, ahh, no. But that's what the question states. Your car is on fire, do you think of random sequences of events? Hmm. Maybe I should shave while the electricity still works in the car, but then I might burn up. Then the ambulance would come and pick me up, dead. Then I'd be... It does not say sequences of events that lead to the current situation.

"You are consistent in your habits."

News flash: if you aren't consistent with your habits, THEY AREN'T HABITS.

"Deadlines seem to you to be of relative rather
than absolute importance."

Someone else determines what my deadlines are. Duh.

"You believe the best decision is one which
can be easily changed."

Given no other information, I can't see how anyone else could vote anything but yes for this one.

Here are some others that I thought were jolly good fun:

"You prefer to isolate yourself from outside noises"
---Well, it depends, if it's a bird chirping then, no, but if it's a sledgehammer, than yes! Plus, I don't know if isolate is the right word.

"You easily see the general principle behind
specific occurrences"
--*tries best Chandler impersonation* Could this BE any more vague?

"The process of searching for solution is more
important to you than the solution itself"
--Well, I guess most people would be relieved in finding a solution to their problem, but then again you can apply the "life is a journey, not a destination" principle and get a different point of view.

I'm exaggerating a bit of course, and understood the basic message of each question... 😉


Edit: Well, I just took the test over again and now I'm an ESFJ (instead of ISFJ). I don't know what I did differently, but ESFJ's description is right on the money.

 

[!dr_nick!]

I think the first time I took this test at school it said my ideal occupation was that of a plumber

Have you considered proctology? 😛

BTW I was listed as ENFJ, and strongly waited on the N, followed by J. E and F were relatively weak, as i could be really introverted and an unfeeling, callous bastard. 😉

 

[!dr_nick!]

Oh and I thought about the vagueness of some of the questions too, and was like wtf? But, I bet they are deliberately vague so differing personality types perceive them differently. Of course it drives the analyticals nuts seeing something so wishy washy, myself included.

 

[Mr Reddly]

BTW, what do P and S mean?

If I recall , Perceiving & Sensing... Someone else will have to explain what they mean though.

And I'm not surprized at the lack of posting 'E's ... They're all out having fun 😛