PGY-1 Requirements! Help!!

[uclalee]

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So I've heard conflicting information on the PGY-1 year requirements for anesthesiology.

Based on the ACGME, it's my understanding that we need:
6 months inpatient
1 ED
1 ICU

My question is this.... If I will be doing 4 floor medicine months and one month of cardiology and one month of endocrinology (both medicine subspecialities), does that fulfill the 6 months of inpatient medicine criteria?

Can any of you anesthesia bound TY's out there let me know how you set up your schedule and what you think?????

Thanks!

 

[amyl]

my programs pulmonary service counts so i would guess yours do too.

 

[pgy13]

So I've heard conflicting information on the PGY-1 year requirements for anesthesiology.

Based on the ACGME, it's my understanding that we need:
6 months inpatient
1 ED
1 ICU

My question is this.... If I will be doing 4 floor medicine months and one month of cardiology and one month of endocrinology (both medicine subspecialities), does that fulfill the 6 months of inpatient medicine criteria?

Can any of you anesthesia bound TY's out there let me know how you set up your schedule and what you think?????

Thanks!

As long as those are both inpatient consult services (as opposed to pure clinic), the two specialty months should count.

 

[Vie221]

I believe that you need two ICU months.

 

[fakin' the funk]

So I've heard conflicting information on the PGY-1 year requirements for anesthesiology.

Based on the ACGME, it's my understanding that we need:
6 months inpatient
1 ED
1 ICU

Does an ICU month count for both the ICU and the inpatient requirement?

 

[fakin' the funk]

Answered my own question:

At least six months of the Clinical Base Year rotations must include experience in caring for inpatients in internal medicine, pediatrics, surgery, or any of the surgical specialties, obstetrics and gynecology, neurology, family medicine, or any combination of these. In addition, there should be rotations in critical care and emergency medicine, with at least one month, but no more than two months, devoted to each. Up to one month may be taken in anesthesiology. Rotations should ensure continuity of teaching and clinical experience. Each month of training may be counted only once. For example, a rotation in a pediatric intensive care unit may count as either a month in pediatrics or a month in critical care medicine.

http://www.acgme.org/acWebsite/RRC_040/040_prIndex.asp

 

[drmcdreamy]

what happens if you don't meet those requirements??? i only do 5 months of inpt!

 

[lord_jeebus]

what happens if you don't meet those requirements??? i only do 5 months of inpt!

You should probably contact your future Anesthesiology program and ask

 

[mmag]

Your prelim/ty program director should also know the requirements as they are suppose to send regular progress reports to your future anesthesia program. If you have problems getting the required rotations, then you have the acgme on your side when you make schedule requests.

 

[IveGotGas]

would 2 months of med wards
2 months in pt elective
3 months icu
1 month icu night float count?

 

[anestheticman]

My understanding of it is that doing 2 ICU months if you are only assigned 1 will be of utmost help later on in 2nd/3rd year.

But other than that, yes the requirements are posted above word for word. Personally, 1 elective for me will be clinics with 3 day weekends and the other will be ICU. Good balance.

 

[myg]

Those ACGME rules appear different from the ones listed on the American Board of Anesthesiology website. The ABA's 'Booklet of Information' on their website states:

Effective July 1, 2008, the Clinical Base year must include at least 8 months of clinical rotations during which the resident has responsibility for the diagnosis and treatment of patients with a variety of medical and surgical problems, of which at most one month may involve the administration of anesthesia. Other rotations completing the 12 months of broad education should be relevant to the practice of anesthesiology.

Acceptable CLINICAL BASE experiences include training in internal or emergency medicine, pediatrics, surgery or any of the surgical specialties, obstetrics and gynecology, neurology, family practice, critical care medicine or any combination of these as approved for the individual resident by the director of his or her training program in anesthesiology.

I got that link from one of the Program Coordinators I was talking with on the interview trail.

http://www.theaba.org/pdf/BOI-2008.pdf

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The rules don't mention anything about inpatient vs outpatient experiences. If somebody can clarify this, I would appreciate it very much.

Thanks

MYG

 

[BlueJasper]

So, may we technically do our prelim year in family medicine or peds?? Do family medicine or peds programs allow prelim years?? (I didn't think doing just one year in peds or family..as you would do in medicine.. was possible) I was under the understanding that you had to do all three years if you matched into a family or peds program...
How do you go about applying for prelim family or peds?

 

[lord_jeebus]

I think there are only one or two prelim peds programs in the country, and no prelim FM.

Those fields are mentioned in the requirements mainly for people who transfer out of those fields so they can count their training towards the Clinical Base Year.