so many of my profs (w/ clinical phds) are encouraging clinically orieted students to get MSW's, and then if they are interested in pursing research and academia, to go on and get thier SW phd's as opposed to getting a phd in clinical. besides being two very different disciplines, most SW phd programs i've heard about require applicants to already have a msw and to have spent several years working in the field (which, all things being equal, would tack at least three years onto the process of getting a phd, compared to a clinical phd). i've also heard that it is not as difficult to get into SW phd programs, and that there is less competition for academic jobs. still, it seems like that would be more of an alternative for someone interested in counseling psych, for folks who are primarially interested in being clinicians, but who would also like to teach and do clinically oriented research.