Pharmacist and Tech Shot Over Argument

[Goro]

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exactly, the first shooting exchange (when there was a guy with a gun waving it at fellow staff) was appropriately legal for the pharmacist
Giving chase was questionably legal at best
Going back to the store to get a second gun (likely to have one fully loaded) is appropriately legal and potentially very wise in case the gunman returned
It is 100% not ok to just continue firing rounds into a guy on the ground 3 minutes after he stops moving

I'd want to make sure the SOB was really dead

 

[Thoughtfulsinner]

This goes to show how vulnerable pharmacists are. You are no safer than apu behind the counter of a 7-11. Maybe you can carry a weapon of your own but if you work for a chain you will get fired by wags, cvs or walmart. If you own your own pharmacy you might get prosecuted if you fight back like this guy.

Commutation denied, life sentence upheld for pharmacist charged with teen’s murder

Get fired or stay alive. Tough choice.

 

[alpha12]

This is different (intrigued nonetheless):

“Ersland shot unarmed 16-year-old Antwun Parker in the head after Parker and another tried to rob his pharmacy, Reliable Discount Pharmacy. Video shows Ersland left the store to chase after the second suspect, then came back and shot Parker five more times with another gun.”

That last bit sounds like anger and retribution was on the pharmacist looking for a cold blooded kill vs what might have been deemed self-defense to some degree.

He was still alive. In florida it would be standing your ground. At what point can the pharmacist really say that an armed robber is no longer a threat? Funny thing is if he was a cop he would have gotten away with it, but cops are revered and pharmacists are not.

 

[alpha12]

You realize that this guy shot the teen child and then after he was disabled he shot the teen 5 more times completely unnecessarily just to impress his two female coworkers ?

>two children rob your store
>you rightfully defend yourself
>16 yo teen is laying on the group unconscious
>walk over to his body and fire five more shots into the unconscious teens head at point blank as he lays prone on the ground already completely disabled and posing zero threat
>your own security cameras catch this and secure your own life imprisonment

Gun nuts will defend this man justifying it as appropriate force. "defending himself" by firing 5 shots into an unconscious child's head at point blank. Just wow.

I don't consider myself a gun nut. I believe america has to many guns and criminals can easily get a gun. I also believe there are guns that an average person has no business owning. We hear to many stories about crazy people shooting up schools, churches, movie theaters, congressman, etc. But according to conservatives, its the price of freedom. I disagree though.

 

[alpha12]

If antwun parker didn't rob a store, he would still be alive. Am I the only one who doesn't care about the rights of an armed robber?

 

[alpha12]

Get fired or stay alive. Tough choice.

It most definitely is.

 

[BC_89]

He was still alive. In florida it would be standing your ground. At what point can the pharmacist really say that an armed robber is no longer a threat? Funny thing is if he was a cop he would have gotten away with it, but cops are revered and pharmacists are not.

1) At what point is an armed robber not a threat:

When he’s subdued on the floor from a shot to the head.

I can safely state this due to the pharmacist going “out-of-his-way” to kneel next to the teen and shoot him over-n-over at point blank as shown in this clip.

2) concerning cops: I’d argue that within this decade cops are far from revered. I don’t believe in speculating assumptions but based on this clip, if a cop did what this pharmacist did, he wouldn’t stand a chance on having parole.

 

[deleted480308]

He was still alive. In florida it would be standing your ground. At what point can the pharmacist really say that an armed robber is no longer a threat? Funny thing is if he was a cop he would have gotten away with it, but cops are revered and pharmacists are not.

"stand your ground" laws in florida do not give someone legal permission to shoot an unconscious guy on the ground. You are mistaken

 

[Modest_anteater]

If antwun parker didn't rob a store, he would still be alive. Am I the only one who doesn't care about the rights of an armed robber?

Dude he was just a kid. Kids do stupid things. He wasn't even armed with any weapon yet gets shot in the head 5 times point blank by some mid-life crisis Boomer potentially racist guy trying to impress two younger girls in the pharmacy. NRA members are gun nuts.

 

[deleted480308]

Dude he was just a kid. Kids do stupid things. He wasn't even armed with any weapon.

his co-robber did have a weapon. the first volley that he got struck with was absolutely fair game and appropriate.

It was not ok to execute him while unconscious on the ground afterwards

 

[Thoughtfulsinner]

his co-robber did have a weapon. the first volley that he got struck with was absolutely fair game and appropriate.

It was not ok to execute him while unconscious on the ground afterwards

He should have just shot both knee caps out.

 

[alpha12]

He should have just shot both knee caps out.

His hands would still work.

 

[CetiAlphaFive]

Yeah they wouldn't fill a script the shooter wanted. The pharmacist should have realized that the customer meant biz even before the gun was drawn. After he reached for the gun the pharmacist should have changed his tune. Poor emotional intelligence that almost cost them their lives. Hurt people hurt people. Maybe try to respect opiate dependent individuals instead of being a jerk to them?

Wrong

 

[Modest_anteater]

He should have just shot both knee caps out.

He was a 16 kid that no longer posed any threat laying on the ground unconscious and you want to blow both his knee caps out? Get some help anon before you become the next Active Shooter.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Dude he was just a kid. Kids do stupid things. He wasn't even armed with any weapon yet gets shot in the head 5 times point blank by some mid-life crisis Boomer potentially racist guy trying to impress two younger girls in the pharmacy. NRA members are gun nuts.

Please refrain from generalizing. Not everyone who owns a gun or is an NRA member is a gun-toting nut job, and not everyone who defends themselves rather than let themselves be taken advantage of is a racist redneck.

 

[owlegrad]

You realize that this guy shot the teen child and then after he was disabled he shot the teen 5 more times completely unnecessarily just to impress his two female coworkers ?

>two children rob your store
>you rightfully defend yourself
>16 yo teen is laying on the group unconscious
>walk over to his body and fire five more shots into the unconscious teens head at point blank as he lays prone on the ground already completely disabled and posing zero threat
>your own security cameras catch this and secure your own life imprisonment

Gun nuts will defend this man justifying it as appropriate force. "defending himself" by firing 5 shots into an unconscious child's head at point blank. Just wow.

It's easy to be an armchair quarterback but the part that always boggled my mind the most is that he shot the person who was unarmed, chased the person who was armed, and then came back to finish off the unarmed guy. Like I am no strategist but surely you should shot the armed person first and perhaps not chase anyone at all, if your goal is to survive a violent exchange?

 

[deleted480308]

It's easy to be an armchair quarterback but the part that always boggled my mind the most is that he shot the person who was unarmed, chased the person who was armed, and then came back to finish off the unarmed guy. Like I am no strategist but surely you should shot the armed person first and perhaps not chase anyone at all, if your goal is to survive a violent exchange?

The pharmacist was wrong. Anteater is also wrong to claim that any real fraction of gun advocates would defend that execution of an incapacitated person

 

[alpha12]

It's easy to be an armchair quarterback but the part that always boggled my mind the most is that he shot the person who was unarmed, chased the person who was armed, and then came back to finish off the unarmed guy. Like I am no strategist but surely you should shot the armed person first and perhaps not chase anyone at all, if your goal is to survive a violent exchange?

He thought the guy was already dead but realized he wasn't and put more bullets in him for insurance.

 

[zelman]

He thought the guy was already dead but realized he wasn't and put more bullets in him for insurance.

No. He was using answer B and the assailant got in the way:

The problem was this is for a "physician" and a pharmacist did it.

 

[owlegrad]

No. He was using answer B and the assailant got in the way:

The problem was this is for a "physician" and a pharmacist did it.

I can't believe there isn't an option to grab a second, fully-loaded gun and proceed to "finish the job". Lame.

 

[alpha12]

No. He was using answer B and the assailant got in the way:

The problem was this is for a "physician" and a pharmacist did it.

E is the best.

 

[CetiAlphaFive]

It's easy to be an armchair quarterback but the part that always boggled my mind the most is that he shot the person who was unarmed, chased the person who was armed, and then came back to finish off the unarmed guy. Like I am no strategist but surely you should shot the armed person first and perhaps not chase anyone at all, if your goal is to survive a violent exchange?

Oh, I didn't realize we'd followed Humble Modest "why are they still an active member" Slotheater down another rabbit hole and switched topics.

If I defended that RPh in any previous posts.

A coup de grace is always murder. Always.