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Pharmacists' take on sports and bodybuilding supplements?

Discussion in 'Pharmacy' started by bacillus1, Jun 19, 2008.

  1. bacillus1

    bacillus1 7+ Year Member

    May 27, 2008
    I wanted to see people's opinions on the effects of these on your body, mainly if people think there are negative effects. I am not talking about steroids, just things like protein shakes (whey or otherwise) and creatine.

    I posted this in the all-students forum with no views so far. This is relevant to healthcare, so I suppose it's not too bad if I put it here.
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  3. Requiem

    Requiem Senior Member Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

    Jul 22, 2004
    I'll give my two cents. A bit biased, coming from someone who does weight lifting and plays competitive hockey. Previous schools of thought said that simply lifting weights was enough to build size, and eat whatever you wanted but eat a lot. Recent research shows the extreme importance of a proper diet in bodybuilding and development of muscle;

    I personally aim for >100g of protein per day, ~150 on days when I lift weights. 150 can't be achieved with diet alone, I drink a whey protein shake with ~50g protein. Excess protein consumption (above the 0.5g/kg cited in dietician mags) is _NOT_ detrimental to liver or kidney function. A healthy liver or kidneys with adequate nutrients/water can handle this. In people with renal disease or end stage renal failure, a decreased protein diet is recommended to lighten the load on the kidneys. I looked up a lot of stuff on pubmed regarding high protein diets before I began to ensure I wasn't killing my kidneys, but it's fine. Another thing is focusing on protein shifts your diet, often improving a typical persons diet to eat more whole grains, white meat, fish, etc. I also drink a lot less alcohol, which is good.

    Creatine isn't as well studied. You have to ensure intense hydration, and proper usage - but I don't recommend it solely because the benefits aren't concrete, nor are the long term effects. Hepatotoxicity may be an issue. It's a bit risky for a _potential_ 5-10% gain. Most people aren't near a level where that would be important enough to go for.

    Anything else just fire away.
  4. jpharmfarm

    jpharmfarm 2+ Year Member

    Jan 12, 2008
    I don't think they're too bad. As with everything in life, moderation is the key. Stick to the lower ends of the recommended dosages of protein and creatine and you'll be fine.

    You shlould keep in mind that too much protein can damage you're kidneys. Not too sure what the adverse effects of too much creatine is. Hasn't really been around long enough to see any negatives to it.
  5. andaheart

    andaheart 2+ Year Member

    Jun 2, 2007

    define 'too much'.
  6. bacillus1

    bacillus1 7+ Year Member

    May 27, 2008
    Anyone know of any studies done on creatine showing that there have been any adverse effects, or that there clearly haven't been any adverse effects?
  7. Aznfarmerboi

    Aznfarmerboi Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    May 18, 2005
    I havent seen anything bad on creatine supplements per se. I will even go to the point to say that not only is creatine safe, but protective on many ends besides being used to increase muscle mass.

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