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Did you request for the staff pharmacist to be fired?
Don't be afraid to build a new team. Be fair and lead by example. Good luck!
No I didn't. The RPH got himself in trouble.
Did you request for the staff pharmacist to be fired?
Don't be afraid to build a new team. Be fair and lead by example. Good luck!
There is a Chinese saying 先苦后甜,bitterness comes before sweetness。 I'm disappointed by what I sense here. How can this country stay ascendant if its people lack the ability to see further than what's in front of their noses? The Chinese people and government is plotting for 20-30 years on the horizon, and this lack of vision is the rest of the Americans can strive for?
the only chinese saying that speaks volume everyday is air pollution and water pollution. 2o-30 years ago if they saw this on the horizon and lacked an action plan that lead to where they are today, each and every day hazardous level of air pollution, then chinese people are not visionaries.. i floated at a cvs store yesterday and i heard stories about the PIC there being chinese. she comes regularly on her off days to work without pay. i don't think the extra $5/hr is worth it being PIC. you're not making more. you're actually making less!
US and other western nations did not go through that stage because they sent that stage to china and india.
Just about every developed country did. US, UK, Germany, etc, all became industrialized by using cheap but destructive and polluting resource to power their growth during the 20th century. Now that 1st world countries turns around telling developing ones like China and India, "oh no, you can't pollute like we did". A big part of the real reason is "we don't want to lose our lead, so we need to slow you down."
The difference is there were no other alternatives when the rest of the world went through this period. Technology has improved since then and it does not absolve China at all from killing it's people slowly via pollution. They have the ability and the means they choose not to in pursuit of money and power.
Let's see, fossil fuel, deforestation, mining, are still what we do today in the US. Besides the little used solar and nuclear, what new alternative? oh, you mean adding 100000 new regulations to do these old things in the developed nations to make it so expensive that dirty industry is exported to china and India, who admittedly are willing to trade cleanliness for money and growth like the US last century. So Americans can still gobble up cheap prices while the chines and Indians breath the fumes. Then while talking on the iPhones or shopping at Walmart, first world countries love to complaining about the damned Asians countries not being as clean, or worried about them catching up so fast. You know what that does smell like? Hypocrisy.
Let's look at the clean water act and the clean air act. Look at air quality in LA and Bejing. Get real. When we did most of our pollution we did not have the technology to check it. Now we do. China chooses not to in order to make money..... China could make plenty of money and still have clean air and water. They choose not to.
Let's look at the clean water act and the clean air act. Look at air quality in LA and Bejing. Get real. When we did most of our pollution we did not have the technology to check it. Now we do. China chooses not to in order to make money..... China could make plenty of money and still have clean air and water. They choose not to.
But at the same time, you are choosing to buy cheap Chinese products. Vote with your wallet.
I don't see pollution as just a China problem. I see it as a global problem. People want things fast and cheap. So be ready to pay the price.
But at the same time, you are choosing to buy cheap Chinese products. Vote with your wallet.
I don't see pollution as just a China problem. I see it as a global problem. People want things fast and cheap. So be ready to pay the price.
Good for you. But most Americans and the rest of the world doesn't think like you do. And besides, China is already the transitioning beyond export driven growth stage..
No matter what problem anyone might have with the chinese givernment, one thing is for sure: they have planned and done more to better the living standards of its people in the last 30 years than any major nation in the human history.
Anyone who remember the famous question Regan asked fellow americans to judge our own government:"are you better off than you were 4 yeahs ago", would have some fair and unbiased understand what answering yes more than 30 years straight means for the chinese, 1/5th of the people on earth.
That remains to be seen.
That's a little hyperbolic. As for standard of living. They have improved so much in 30 years that are 90th in standard of living. That means they had nowhere to go but up.
If it's so good, move to China. I don't think you will. There is at present, no comparison between the US and China in any metric. They are second to us in GDP but per capita they are in the 90's, while the US is in the top ten. I don't see the US government or US companies trying to steal Chinese business secrets as they don't invent anything.
You can give China a pass if you want. But except by pure economic power, they are an epic fail in every other way. The standard of living, per capita income, general living conditions, China is almost third world. Combine that with an autocratic one party political system and you have a recipe for not a nice place to live. Based on the pollution index, China is the 10th most polluted country on the planet. They did all that and improved that much to get to be in 90th place by standard of living. They have more polluted cities than any other country.
There is no place on this planet like the US. None. It is an imperfect, but exceptional country. My ancestors came here dirt poor with nothing just about 100 years ago. Three generations later I am an American and I make a six figure income. That is impossible anywhere else on this planet. I might be able to move to China and make a fortune, but I could never be Chinese. Chinese look a certain way and I could never pass for Chinese. Americans look like well, just about anything.
It's been happening. The chinese government's even outlines these economic plans to the public. Export made up 35-40% of the chinese GDP in the the early half of the 2000s, then trended downward, now it's 25% of its economy.
Not hyperbolic, just stating a well established fact. And sure, standards of living was low, but so was Europe before industrialization. Yet even during the famed industrial revolution, the standards of living never grew as fast.
I agree with you that China's living standard/per capita income is 1/4-1/5th of the US, but it was 1/60th of the US 30 years ago. I also don't know why you like to point at US's higher per capita income, but at the same time ignore the fact US's per capita greenhouse gas production is 3x higher than China's.
I don't care for patriotism or flag waving, as they are not logical. Hence I don't care about buying American or Chinese, but what best suits my needs. I give credit where it is due, and while China still have a lot of developing to do, but it's not up for debate that they have planned and executed an amazing feat of economic development. A wise person would respect and plan ahead against an competitor of that caliber, rather than trying to belittle its achievements.
I guess I would now like you to back up your assertions with some facts. According to what I can see Chinese exports have continued to rise. You may see this as adjusted to GDP, but that is a little misleading as GDP fell pretty much everywhere during the recession so many customers imported less from China.
I see Chinese exports rising all through the last decade.
As for being patriotic. I plead guilty. I repeat there is no place like this anywhere. Where citizenship is built on an ideal not on genetics. Every wave of immigration is absorbed into the American culture and becomes American, It is not like that anywhere on this planet.
Look at Nobel Prize winners by country:
I wonder why one country seems to dominate. If you take the time to look at the names you will the American winners com from a diverse background. You will let me know when people are clamoring to get into China to go to graduate school.
So yes I am a flag waver. I don't belittle the Chinese achievements. I see them for what they are. China has tremendous economic power, they gave 1/5 of the world's population. But you cannot excuse their corrupt government that censors the Internet, condones corporate espionage, suppresses it's people and poisons the air they breath and the water they drink. Hitler did a lot for Germany too. All the economic planning and management efficiency you attribute to the Chinese government could be said of the Nazis.
Sure I'll back up my assertion with facts.
The clear error in your graph is it's export in $ value. But China's GDP grew much faster than it's export.
Here's the link to world bank's break down of China's exports as % of it's GDP. http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.EXP.GNFS.ZS/countries/1W-CN?display=graph
As you can see, export used to make up 35-40% of China's GDP, now it's just 26%.
The chinese government publish their economic plans every 5 years, and they starting staying that they will start transitioning from an export driven economy to a more internal consumption based one (like the US) in their last 2 plans, and as you can see it's doing just that.
Also, If China (or any country) had vast unclaimed and usable land/resources like the US back then, they'll be made up of immigrants too. It's only logical that human nature takes free land and resources. Alas, China has indigenous people and didn't have indians to wipe out.
Err that graph is goes back to 1901???? This is not logical. US has existed as a nation since 1776. The China we are talking about didn't even exist until 1950. It's development is almost entirely in the last 30 years. So if someone is born near the start of the developing era, he/she is only 30 years old right now. If you are going down that irrational line of thinking, then we can compare China's GDP to US's in 1776, where Imperial dynasty owned something like 40% of the world's GDP, and US had nothing. But how irrational and useless is that comparison?
Whenever someone starts to compare their opponents to the Nazis...
But all that proves is that the world wide recession decreased the amount of products the world could buy from China. Trust me, as the world economy picks up China will export all it can
Nice try on the Indians. But displacement is the history of just about every country.
The Nobel price didn't exist in 1776. Logic seems to escape you.
China is an autocratic dictatorship that suppresses the freedom of it's citizens. Just like the Nazi's or any other totalitarian regime they can manipulate the economy any way they want. Look at how they manipulate their currency. So the economic mirage you tout is unsustainable. China will have to choose in the near future want kind of country it wants to be. They have a large and growing middle class that sooner or later will not tolerate the government telling what they can and cannot do with their money while they are forced to breathe polluted air and drink polluted water.
What a load of propaganda. Since the country is lead by a small group that step down every 5-10 years, it's definitely no a dictatorship. At worst it's an oligarchy, at best it's a one party republic (more the former than the latter). Further more, from the developing era onward, it has consistently had technocrats in that ruling capacity, which is a major reason for its rapid rise and economic success. The government certainly doesn't tell people what they can or can not do with their money more than here. Did you ever visit China, or just what you read on Fox News?
Here, I'll help you guys out, just cut and post the following response for each others posts:
"I know you are, but what am I."
No it's not that at all. It's a spirited discussion of the Chinese economy and political system vs the US political system. There are no names called (except about the Chinese Government. xiphoid2010 is a bright highly driven guy and I personally enjoyed the give and take. I prefer clarity to agreement. I never thought I was going to convince him I was correct.