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npage148 said:
Phew, thought it was UB. It's always rich kids from the northtowns too. I also hate the new Buffalo News
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He did graduate from UB last May, pharm and tox major. So for any P2s or P3s in UBSoPPS, he was probably in your pharmacology class
 
buffalo, hated that place. Its one miserable, gloomy, dying steel mill town. Glad that student wasnt from UB though, phew.
 
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What an idiot. If he decided that a career in pharmacy wasn't for him, Fisher should have told him to contact me or any of the other students who have left their program. There are way smarter ways to go about it than by committing a felony.

If nothing else, at least it thins out the job market for future graduates. Drop in the bucket, mind you, but every bit helps.

EDIT: Since this is a thread that involves Fisher, where's Ackj at?
 
When I first read the title of the this thread, I thought it go along the line of "Pharmacy students caught masturbating in front of customers while high on oxycodone"... 😴
 
BrightLight said:
When I first read the title of the this thread, I thought it go along the line of "Pharmacy students caught masturbating in front of customers while high on oxycodone"... 😴
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umm.... Did this actually happen?

What really caught my eye is the plural use of "Pharmacy students". That was an upsetting mental image...
 
IrishHammer said:
What an idiot. If he decided that a career in pharmacy wasn't for him, Fisher should have told him to contact me or any of the other students who have left their program. There are way smarter ways to go about it than by committing a felony.

If nothing else, at least it thins out the job market for future graduates. Drop in the bucket, mind you, but every bit helps.

EDIT: Since this is a thread that involves Fisher, where's Ackj at?
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I don't believe he had doubts about the profession, I think he just wanted a payday and a career that would give him access to drugs. Pretty sure his departure from the profession was rather unintentional. Your exit was a fair bit more calculated.

As I haven't been on campus at all this year, I've never met the guy. The few P2-3s that I've talked with weren't familiar with him either. I don't know anybody in the P1 class, so I don't even have a character witness, let alone juicy details on the story.

The upside about smaller graduating class is unfortunately moot, since D'youville will be graduating folks by the time these P1s hit the market. Unless all of those guys are secretly part of an assassin guild or burglary ring. Then it could work out.
 
I Hate Buffalo. Has winter literally >6 months out of the year, it's almost winter, winter, still winter, construction. Back then, I owned 94 Accord with no heater, a cracked windshield, broken radiator (I had to fill every month), stolen stereo (oh wait... I remember they stole my pharmacotherapy book also...), a broken driver door (I had to jump from the passenger side), and a missing gas cap, with overdue inspection. Imagine I poured warm water to remove the ice building on the windshield every morning coz I was too broke to fix the heater. Luckily, I lived only 1 mile from campus.

+ South Buffalo is too ghetto for me and NY people are incredibly rude compare to CA! Jefferson St? I can't remember... That's where I worked LOL
 
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Kwiz said:
He did graduate from UB last May, pharm and tox major. So for any P2s or P3s in UBSoPPS, he was probably in your pharmacology class
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Ackj said:
I don't believe he had doubts about the profession, I think he just wanted a payday and a career that would give him access to drugs. Pretty sure his departure from the profession was rather unintentional. Your exit was a fair bit more calculated.

As I haven't been on campus at all this year, I've never met the guy. The few P2-3s that I've talked with weren't familiar with him either. I don't know anybody in the P1 class, so I don't even have a character witness, let alone juicy details on the story.

The upside about smaller graduating class is unfortunately moot, since D'youville will be graduating folks by the time these P1s hit the market. Unless all of those guys are secretly part of an assassin guild or burglary ring. Then it could work out.
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Ha! Calculated. I see what you did there.

Don't get me started on those D'Youville wieners. We've had this conversation several times, but for everybody else - my girlfriend's roommate and her boyfriend both work as security guards at D'Youville, and they have noticed, from their own personal experiences (which included going so far as to fight with the dean over having questions on exams thrown out) they DYC Pharm students have the worst entitlement complex we've ever seen. In a just world, none of those knobs are getting employed after graduation.

Also, Fisher did release a statement regarding this situation. Basic CYA stuff you'd see when any school has a bad apple make the news.

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http://www.whec.com/news/stories/s2836460.shtml

St. John Fisher College issued a statement saying, "Yesterday, the College was notified of the arrest of Abraham Reinhardt, a first-year pharmacy student (P1). We have had numerous inquiries about Reinhardt’s possible access to drugs on campus. We would like to emphasize that first-year students at the School of Pharmacy do not have access to any pharmacy labs or pharmaceuticals on campus. Students in their second, third, and fourth year in the School of Pharmacy do complete lab work, but they do not work with any controlled substances on campus. Lab classes are supervised by faculty from the School of Pharmacy and the labs are locked when not in use. The U.S. Attorney’s Office is moving forward with the case. The College has no additional information at this time."
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IrishHammer said:
Fisher did release a statement regarding this situation. Basic CYA stuff you'd see when any school has a bad apple make the news.
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What'd you expect the press release to look like?

In a perfect world, it'd look something like this: "Yesterday, the College was notified of the arrest of Abraham Reinhardt, a first-year pharmacy student (P1). The College is disgusted by this behavior; Mr. Reinhardt is an embarrassment to the College, his family, and his community. Additionally, the College is upset that this will give additional ammunition to all of the 'new school haters' out there, particularly those in the greater Buffalo area. (St. John Fisher College reminds you, dear reader, that our pharmacy program is fully accredited, unlike D'Youville.) The College has taken corrective action to ensure that there are no future incidents of criminal misbehavior by our student body; corporal punishment has been added to our Conduct Code, the Director of Admissions has been terminated due to incompetence, and the faculty members of the pharmacy school's Admissions Committee has been replaced by more intelligent individuals. Now let's talk about the Sabres instead...they haven't lost a game all season!"

Stories of this nature seem to occur a half dozen times a year; the only unique thing about this one is the ice cream truck.

Allow me to defend the school on this one: the admissions process is largely a crapshoot; candidates can look great on paper and wiggle themselves through the interview process; you really never know what you are getting. This happens at both the most prestigious schools and the new kids on the block.
 
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297point1 said:
Allow me to defend the school on this one: the admissions process is largely a crapshoot; candidates can look great on paper and wiggle themselves through the interview process; you really never know what you are getting. This happens at both the most prestigious schools and the new kids on the block.
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I tricked admissions twice! :meanie:

You have to seriously wonder about the caliber of individuals entering schools nowadays with the continual ongoing expansion of pharmacy schools. Are we at +130 now?
 
I thought it was gonna be pharmacy student caught a major interaction or life saving event... pisssh lol 😀
 
PharMed2016 said:
I tricked admissions twice! :meanie:

You have to seriously wonder about the caliber of individuals entering schools nowadays with the continual ongoing expansion of pharmacy schools. Are we at +130 now?
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Many individuals & technicians with ~2.5 GPA wanna be pharmacists get accepted nowadays. A lot of them should have never gotten accepted to begin with.
 
Momus said:
Many individuals & technicians with ~2.5 GPA wanna be pharmacists get accepted nowadays. A lot of them should have never gotten accepted to begin with.
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Generally, when you only accept people who have 3.7+ GPAs, you're gonna get a bunch of nerds who have no other things going on other than academics.

It's like when you read the newspaper and you see these 14-15 year old kids building quantum computers and doing PhD level genetic disease research, you ****ing feel sorry for them.
 
Sparda29 said:
Generally, when you only accept people who have 3.7+ GPAs, you're gonna get a bunch of nerds who have no other things going on other than academics.

It's like when you read the newspaper and you see these 14-15 year old kids building quantum computers and doing PhD level genetic disease research, you ****ing feel sorry for them.
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Harrison Ford saying En Taro Adun cracks me up. :laugh:
 
Sparda29 said:
Generally, when you only accept people who have 3.7+ GPAs, you're gonna get a bunch of nerds who have no other things going on other than academics.

It's like when you read the newspaper and you see these 14-15 year old kids building quantum computers and doing PhD level genetic disease research, you ****ing feel sorry for them.
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Praziquantel86 said:
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Come on, most of the time if you find a 3.7-4.0 undergrad/high school student, you're gonna find a rather dull person. Occasionally, you're gonna find the person who is interested in sports, video games and whatnot on top of pulling good grades.
 
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Sparda29 said:
Come on, most of the time if you find a 3.7-4.0 undergrad/high school student, you're gonna find a rather dull person. Occasionally, you're gonna find the person who is interested in sports, video games and whatnot on top of pulling good grades.
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Yet the same generalization continues to be made. Amazing.
 
Sparda29 said:
Come on, most of the time if you find a 3.7-4.0 undergrad/high school student, you're gonna find a rather dull person. Occasionally, you're gonna find the person who is interested in sports, video games and whatnot on top of pulling good grades.
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Lol... Undergrad probably. But those who maintain a good gpa in my school tend to play video games and work... the professional program here is much harder than undergrad it seems.
 
Praziquantel86 said:
Yet the same generalization continues to be made. Amazing.
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Generalizations are generally true. What's the big deal? The exceptions prove the rule and you should know that.

Sparda29 said:
Come on, most of the time if you find a 3.7-4.0 undergrad/high school student, you're gonna find a rather dull person. Occasionally, you're gonna find the person who is interested in sports, video games and whatnot on top of pulling good grades.
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I think what we find to be an interesting or fascinating person can vary from one to the other. I had a friend tell me about her boyfriend who, according to her, was the most interesting person in the world. Turned out he bored the hell out of me. I've even met people who say sport freaks and video game freaks are dull...even to the point that tailgating at college football games is boring.

So from my perspective, most of the Rho Chi super high GPA students are boring as hell. I had two close friends make it to Rho Chi and they are far from boring but the others were as dull as rocks. Never had interesting contributions to make during class or outside class and seemed to isolate themselves from others.

edit: One thing I remembered about my class's Rho Chi bunch is that there were only 2 people who ever served as President or Vice President of an organization. For a lot of them, Rho Chi was the only group to which they belong. Kinda odd if you ask me. Personal experience can shape the way you view things so can you really fault me for yawning when I see Rho Chi listed on a student's CV or job app?
 
BenJammin said:
Generalizations are generally true. What's the big deal? The exceptions prove the rule and you should know that.



I think what we find to be an interesting or fascinating person can vary from one to the other. I had a friend tell me about her boyfriend who, according to her, was the most interesting person in the world. Turned out he bored the hell out of me. I've even met people who say sport freaks and video game freaks are dull...even to the point that tailgating at college football games is boring.

So from my perspective, most of the Rho Chi super high GPA students are boring as hell. I had two close friends make it to Rho Chi and they are far from boring but the others were as dull as rocks. Never had interesting contributions to make during class or outside class and seemed to isolate themselves from others.

edit: One thing I remembered about my class's Rho Chi bunch is that there were only 2 people who ever served as President or Vice President of an organization. For a lot of them, Rho Chi was the only group to which they belong. Kinda odd if you ask me. Personal experience can shape the way you view things so can you really fault me for yawning when I see Rho Chi listed on a student's CV or job app?
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I found the opposite in pharmacy school. Quite a few students who were at the top of our class were the craziest party people.
 
Sparda29 said:
I found the opposite in pharmacy school. Quite a few students who were at the top of our class were the craziest party people.
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It could vary class to class. A fraternity brother of mine was in Rho Chi and he failed two courses.
 
297point1 said:
What'd you expect the press release to look like?

In a perfect world, it'd look something like this: "Yesterday, the College was notified of the arrest of Abraham Reinhardt, a first-year pharmacy student (P1). The College is disgusted by this behavior; Mr. Reinhardt is an embarrassment to the College, his family, and his community. Additionally, the College is upset that this will give additional ammunition to all of the 'new school haters' out there, particularly those in the greater Buffalo area. (St. John Fisher College reminds you, dear reader, that our pharmacy program is fully accredited, unlike D'Youville.) The College has taken corrective action to ensure that there are no future incidents of criminal misbehavior by our student body; corporal punishment has been added to our Conduct Code, the Director of Admissions has been terminated due to incompetence, and the faculty members of the pharmacy school's Admissions Committee has been replaced by more intelligent individuals. Now let's talk about the Sabres instead...they haven't lost a game all season!"

Stories of this nature seem to occur a half dozen times a year; the only unique thing about this one is the ice cream truck.

Allow me to defend the school on this one: the admissions process is largely a crapshoot; candidates can look great on paper and wiggle themselves through the interview process; you really never know what you are getting. This happens at both the most prestigious schools and the new kids on the block.
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I pretty much expected that their statement would look like what it did. It wasn't their fault and they did what they should have done; acknowledged the situation while also making it clear in a diplomatic way that they had no part in enabling his actions.

I don't blame Fisher for this happening; despite my leaving the school and program, I have nothing bad to say about the school/program/faculty/etc. I simply left because I did not enjoy pharmacy and couldn't see spending 40-50 years doing it.

I would have enjoyed a press release like that very much, though. Corporal punishment might stop some students from always complaining about questions needing to be thrown out. Although, since they are the home of Buffalo Bills' training camp, they could have added some sort of statement about how excited they are for next summer, to welcome whomever replaces Chan Gailey in the offseason. What retread will they scoop up this time? Jack Del Rio? Norv Turner? Romeo Crennel? It's sure to be an exciting offseason, fokls! :meanie:
 
IrishHammer said:
I don't blame Fisher for this happening; despite my leaving the school and program, I have nothing bad to say about the school/program/faculty/etc. I simply left because I did not enjoy pharmacy and couldn't see spending 40-50 years doing it.
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What amazes me is the number of students who come to the same conclusion, but keep going anyways. There is something to be said about the crushing loan burden that many students shoulder to pursue a pharmacy degree.

Good to see you back IrishHammer; I thought when Edge retired, you had left us as well...
 
BenJammin said:
Generalizations are generally true. What's the big deal? The exceptions prove the rule and you should know that.



I think what we find to be an interesting or fascinating person can vary from one to the other. I had a friend tell me about her boyfriend who, according to her, was the most interesting person in the world. Turned out he bored the hell out of me. I've even met people who say sport freaks and video game freaks are dull...even to the point that tailgating at college football games is boring.

So from my perspective, most of the Rho Chi super high GPA students are boring as hell. I had two close friends make it to Rho Chi and they are far from boring but the others were as dull as rocks. Never had interesting contributions to make during class or outside class and seemed to isolate themselves from others.

edit: One thing I remembered about my class's Rho Chi bunch is that there were only 2 people who ever served as President or Vice President of an organization. For a lot of them, Rho Chi was the only group to which they belong. Kinda odd if you ask me. Personal experience can shape the way you view things so can you really fault me for yawning when I see Rho Chi listed on a student's CV or job app?
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I know this is an older post (and this isn't specifically directed at whoever I quoted) but this really bothers me because I've seen it come up a couple times now.

Is this really the outlook most pharmacy people right now have about Rho Chi and/or students that excel academically? :/ I mean yeah, some kids these days are like that and just focus on grades, barely doing anything else but I feel like those are the minority, at least from people I know.

All of the my med student friends had high grades in college (obviously), and this is just a small sample: my old roommate was a great basketball player but was in AOA and geeked out with me over medical/therapeutics stuff a lot, one guy has like 800 hobbies (violinist, pottery, art, amazing researcher...), another guy was a ranked gamer who played at tournaments (had like a 3.9 as an engineering major and played a LOT of video games). My sister has a 4.0 in high school but she plays piano, violin and is a ranked tennis player. I know a ton more that are just good at art, build computers, play tons of instruments, do chalk art, and just are really fun people to be around.

Just is weird to me because I've heard this generalization from other people too ("oh med students made this funny parody video? i didn't know they had other talents") as if they don't realize you have to be well rounded and have great grades to even get into med school in the first place.

Or are people only interesting if they party a lot, are social butterflies, or are presidents of organizations and sell t shirts or something.

Personally, I think it's pretty amazing to see high schoolers winning science competitions and what not. I guess I just don't understand where this dismissing attitude towards academic excellence and scholarly activities comes from and I don't know how I'm supposed to make myself "interesting" towards my future residency directors or hiring managers.

And what would it take for people to take Rho Chi more seriously (for my own benefit since I'm an officer of that org and I want to make some changes there)?
 
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I stumbled upon this thread today while reading a bunch of articles pertaining to this arrest. Well in any case, I am the student that was charged. I also was an active member of the forum for a long time...
 
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lookatbanner said:
I know this is an older post (and this isn't specifically directed at whoever I quoted) but this really bothers me because I've seen it come up a couple times now.

Is this really the outlook most pharmacy people right now have about Rho Chi and/or students that excel academically? :/ I mean yeah, some kids these days are like that and just focus on grades, barely doing anything else but I feel like those are the minority, at least from people I know.

All of the my med student friends had high grades in college (obviously), and this is just a small sample: my old roommate was a great basketball player but was in AOA and geeked out with me over medical/therapeutics stuff a lot, one guy has like 800 hobbies (violinist, pottery, art, amazing researcher...), another guy was a ranked gamer who played at tournaments (had like a 3.9 as an engineering major and played a LOT of video games). My sister has a 4.0 in high school but she plays piano, violin and is a ranked tennis player. I know a ton more that are just good at art, build computers, play tons of instruments, do chalk art, and just are really fun people to be around.

Just is weird to me because I've heard this generalization from other people too ("oh med students made this funny parody video? i didn't know they had other talents") as if they don't realize you have to be well rounded and have great grades to even get into med school in the first place.

Or are people only interesting if they party a lot, are social butterflies, or are presidents of organizations and sell t shirts or something.

Personally, I think it's pretty amazing to see high schoolers winning science competitions and what not. I guess I just don't understand where this dismissing attitude towards academic excellence and scholarly activities comes from and I don't know how I'm supposed to make myself "interesting" towards my future residency directors or hiring managers.

And what would it take for people to take Rho Chi more seriously (for my own benefit since I'm an officer of that org and I want to make some changes there)?
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I made another post in a different topic where my thoughts on Rho Chi are clearer than they are in that post. If you want people like myself to take your organization more seriously then standardize your membership. Set a GPA cutoff and don't allow any students whose GPA doesn't match or surpass it to join. My GPA at the time my class was being examined for Rho Chi would have been good enough to be a member if I had been a third year during those first two years (hopefully that makes sense, I'll clarify if it doesn't) so to say those students are academically superior to me just because they're in Rho Chi is absurd. You may say I'm whining but this is exactly why people like me and especially those I work with do not automatically respect the Rho Chi name.

Seriously. Start standardizing and then I'll start giving you guys credit.
 
harmonidrum said:
I stumbled upon this thread today while reading a bunch of articles pertaining to this arrest. Well in any case, I am the student that was charged. I also was an active member of the forum for a long time...
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Did you really do it?
 
harmonidrum said:
I stumbled upon this thread today while reading a bunch of articles pertaining to this arrest. Well in any case, I am the student that was charged. I also was an active member of the forum for a long time...
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Well - good luck in your new endeavours! I believe that you should have the opportunity to live and learn from this incident. But, I also believe that you torched your bridges to become a pharmacist.

I always suggest truck driving school to anyone that is unsure of their future.
 
Ice cream truck driving school?
 
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Pojman said:
Well - good luck in your new endeavours! I believe that you should have the opportunity to live and learn from this incident. But, I also believe that you torched your bridges to become a pharmacist.

I always suggest truck driving school to anyone that is unsure of their future.
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I don't think it really matters if I actually did it. With the media blitz I was presumed guilty before I was even arraigned. I was evicted immediately from my apartment as soon as I got out of jail along with my roommate who was not even charged with any crime, so even though I wasn't suspended from school I had to move home anyway. I'm pretty pissed that I sunk so much money into pharmacy as a career just to have it all ripped away from me. I'm pretty sure truck driving is not going to be my first career-choice lol. I already have a 4-year degree so I'm hoping to make use of that once I have all the legal issues behind me.
 
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