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I am currently enrolled in MPH prog and have 5 months to finish it.

How do I get sponsorship/scholarship for PhD?
Is there any difference that my dissertation topic will have? what will be good topics to get more chances?
Do I approach universities right now or wait for MPH to complete?
 
I do not have any information about your question, but was wondering, what made you decide to go for the PhD. Are you planning on teaching or something else? I am similarly considering that track and was wondering what someone else's motivation might be. Thanks!
 
jjright212, Nothing like that. I want to jump into it and finish it and then start my career.

I know it is not the right way of doing it but I have limitations socially that I can spend on studies. I can study right now and so want to get maximum before it's time for me to stop and start my career.

If I have it now then I can; tomorrow I may not
 
don't hold me to it, but i think your best bet is to talk to your masters advisor. they'd know the appropriate steps for switching from a master to a phd. and just fyi, phd students essentially have their education funded by the government, so you missed out on two years of funding.

most people go from phd down to masters (free masters!), interesting that you'd go the other way around.
 
most people go from phd down to masters (free masters!), interesting that you'd go the other way around.

Can U write more about this please
 
most people go from phd down to masters (free masters!), interesting that you'd go the other way around.

Many public health PhD programs require applicants to have at least a masters degree already.

The epi PhD program I will apply to requires at least an MPH.
 
That's interesting. Perhaps that's true for a certain number of public health schools, but as I'm perusing some of the school websites, many of them do not have an mph requirement. In fact, the PhD application process seems to generally be with a separate department, e.g. graduate admissions, rather than directly through the public health school (more geared towards masters admissions).

Here are the schools that I saw did not require a previous MPH degree.
- Harvard (offered through graduate school of arts and sciences)
- Emory Epi PhD program (offered through Rollins School of PH)
- Columbia (PhD no previous MPH needed, offered through graduate school of arts and sciences, or DrPH, which does requires a MPH)

I think the question of whether or not an MPH is required for admissions depends on the program/department you're applying to. If you're seeking to do research in public health, there's no reason for you to need an MPH prior to admissions.

With regards to the funding, this is taken from Emory's PhD admissions page:

TUITION AND FELLOWSHIPS

Doctoral students accepted into Epidemiology are awarded full tuition support (valued at $29,800) and an annual stipend (Fellowship) of $15,800 guaranteed for 4 years. Students receive stipends on a 9- or 12-month basis. Additional fellowships may be available for students with a research interest in reproductive, pediatric and perinatal epidemiology. In addition, an additional fellowship may be available for students interested in environmental epidemiology.

What I mean is that assuming you're doing the PhD for research reasons, then had you been admitted to the PhD program in the first place, most schools would have paid for your entire education. How do they fund for it? Through the government grants that they receive for research!! Those billions of dollars don't just go to pipettes... =)

This, I only learned of AFTER having decided to apply to MPH / MHA programs. Had I known, I may have very well chosen the PhD route.

Some PhD students (including a friend of mine in an unrelated field), may end up finding that the PhD route isn't suitable for them and opt to 'drop out' of the program after two years and after having received their 'masters' in that field... what one of my friends did. So in a way, he received his masters for free.

Given that though, the schools aren't stupid. They're seeking students who ACTUALLY want to go through with the PhD, the lab hours, the dissertation, all that can extend the Doctoral process beyond the supposed 4 years. So unless you demonstrate this in your application, which generally includes some sort of shortened, watered down research proposal, you won't get in anyways.

Again, I'm not an expert with this entire process, so my best recommendation again is to speak to your current adviser. He/She should, emphasis on should, be able to guide you in terms of switching your degree intentions and finding funding for it.
 
I think you actually do need to have at least a Master's for the doctoral program at Columbia (don't know about the others you specified). I found this on the Doctoral info page for Epi:
All applicants must have, or be in the process of completing, a Master's degree in epidemiology or a related field. Individuals who have completed a doctoral degree in a program that does not confer a Master's degree (e.g. M.D.) are also eligible. Course work in mathematics (e.g. calculus) and statistics as well as a strong background in the natural and/or social sciences are strongly recommended. We also look for applicants who are committed to public health research and practice. Thus, past research and/or other work experience in public health are encouraged.

Here is the link btw: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsas/departments/epidemiology/department.html

The abovementioned paragraph is found at the bottom of the page.
I do remember, however, reading that Emory accepts directly into the PhD. program (without Master's) , but I think it is really competitive.
 
tt13, Thank U for the information. I will start looking for such ones from now itself. That was helpful.
 
It definitely depends on what you want to get a Ph'd in. It's much harder to get into a Ph'd program in biostatistics without a prior masters degree, but that also depends on the caliber of the school and the caliber of your application, your undergraduate major, etc.
I have noticed that fewer epi programs require a prior masters, but again, it depends on the school.

Also, in terms of funding, my understanding is that you don't get accepted unless they have funding for you. I think it makes total sense to go from a masters program to a Ph'd program. Coming right out of undergrad (or time off), it is scary to commit to something at serious as a Ph'd program. Being a Ph'd student is not a part time thing, like being a masters student could be. It's a full time job.
 
To have leadership position isn't it better to have a PhD than Master, I get kinda weary w/ finding good positions in the field w/ just Masters?! Any thoughts? Much will be appreciated!

Does anyone know of others PhD programs in Public Health area that doesn't require a masters?
 
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