Philly/Chicago/DC programs

[woofer500]

I was hoping anyone that interviewed or are current residents at Loyola, Einstein/Thomas Jefferson, and Georgetown and George Washington could tell me their impressions of those programs? Couldn't find out much from their websites. Much appreciated!

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[DeucesHigh3]

I was hoping anyone that interviewed or are current residents at Loyola, Einstein/Thomas Jefferson, and Georgetown and George Washington could tell me their impressions of those programs? Couldn't find out much from their websites. Much appreciated!

Chiming in from Philadelphia--

Jefferson is a heck of a program, by anyone’s standards, and only pales in comparison to the research powerhouse across the river (Penn). I am under the impression, though, that they have an even stronger MSK department, and are quite big in ultrasound. They have an outsized production of research though they don’t force it, and have a large (the largest?) contingent of residents presenting at RSNA every year. The residents are very chill and personable, and the interview dinner and breakfast were the best of my interview season. The hospital network is ever-expanding, and they’re going to out-bed the UPenn system in the Delaware Valley in the near future. Full disclosure-- I’ll be here next year, but I obviously can’t give much more feedback than what I’ve read about, heard about, or seen on the interview trail.

Einstein I’ll say more about, because as a non-‘academic’ program they get less discussion on SDN/AM. Frankly, it’s a tremendous program, and if you weren’t told, you would assume they had an associated medical school and university – they have residencies in at least six specialties, and have rotating med students in every rotation from (I think) Drexel, Temple, Cooper, and PCOM. The technology is great, the attendings are education-focused, they have the most rigorous and comprehensive curriculum for medical students I’ve ever seen, and it’s a hospital that sees (from a radiology perspective) basically everything except transplant or lots of peds. The reading room is interesting in that it’s one huge dark room broken into cubicles with the various subspecialties, allowing easy communication, rather than having various rooms with a handful of stations tucked all over the hospital. Morning and noon conferences take place in a technologically-well-appointed amphitheater owned by the radiology department. They have daily read-out in person with the ICU residents/attendings, which make the daily ICU portables a little less painful to look at. Noon-conference is absolutely protected-time, and residents are herded out of the reading room if read-out is dragging past 11:59. Also, they schedule a half-hour lunch break after noon conference, which is nice in and of itself, obviates the need to juggle your lunch around in your lap at conference, and means you won’t be contemplating a post-prandial nap during the last half of conference. Interview-wise, it’s notable in that you have six (six!) interviews with 8 different people, though it’s well coordinated. It should be mentioned that the program coordinator is probably the best that I’ve seen at any program, including radiology, medicine, and TY.

 

[woofer500]

Thanks for your input! Those both sound fantastic.

 

[Gadofosveset]

The D.C. programs always underwhelmed me a little whenever I interacted with them. Purely subjective. They just never seem quite on the ball.

The residents I've met from Thomas Jefferson have been really strong.

 

[RadsonRads]

Chiming in from Philadelphia--

Jefferson is a heck of a program, by anyone’s standards, and only pales in comparison to the research powerhouse across the river (Penn). I am under the impression, though, that they have an even stronger MSK department, and are quite big in ultrasound. They have an outsized production of research though they don’t force it, and have a large (the largest?) contingent of residents presenting at RSNA every year. The residents are very chill and personable, and the interview dinner and breakfast were the best of my interview season. The hospital network is ever-expanding, and they’re going to out-bed the UPenn system in the Delaware Valley in the near future. Full disclosure-- I’ll be here next year, but I obviously can’t give much more feedback than what I’ve read about, heard about, or seen on the interview trail.

Einstein I’ll say more about, because as a non-‘academic’ program they get less discussion on SDN/AM. Frankly, it’s a tremendous program, and if you weren’t told, you would assume they had an associated medical school and university – they have residencies in at least six specialties, and have rotating med students in every rotation from (I think) Drexel, Temple, Cooper, and PCOM. The technology is great, the attendings are education-focused, they have the most rigorous and comprehensive curriculum for medical students I’ve ever seen, and it’s a hospital that sees (from a radiology perspective) basically everything except transplant or lots of peds. The reading room is interesting in that it’s one huge dark room broken into cubicles with the various subspecialties, allowing easy communication, rather than having various rooms with a handful of stations tucked all over the hospital. Morning and noon conferences take place in a technologically-well-appointed amphitheater owned by the radiology department. They have daily read-out in person with the ICU residents/attendings, which make the daily ICU portables a little less painful to look at. Noon-conference is absolutely protected-time, and residents are herded out of the reading room if read-out is dragging past 11:59. Also, they schedule a half-hour lunch break after noon conference, which is nice in and of itself, obviates the need to juggle your lunch around in your lap at conference, and means you won’t be contemplating a post-prandial nap during the last half of conference. Interview-wise, it’s notable in that you have six (six!) interviews with 8 different people, though it’s well coordinated. It should be mentioned that the program coordinator is probably the best that I’ve seen at any program, including radiology, medicine, and TY.

x2 on the PD at Einstein being the best PD I interviewed with. Was pleasantly surprised by this program. It was also nice to be interviewed by Dr. Herring. He is the man, but I think he either is leaving or has already retired.

 

[freddydpt]

If you'd like to know more about the programs, I'd HIGHLY encourage you to talk over the phone with current residents at the program rather than learning from SDN'ers who go off of reputation and hearsay. Some of the information may not be correct and its hard to tease out what is true and what is not.

 

[DaTruMD]

If you'd like to know more about the programs, I'd HIGHLY encourage you to talk over the phone with current residents at the program rather than learning from SDN'ers who go off of reputation and hearsay. Some of the information may not be correct and its hard to tease out what is true and what is not.

Yeah because residents aren't biased at all.

 

[Radiologyreviews2015]

Yeah because residents aren't biased at all.

Seriously, where are the residents with grievances? So far I've only been exposed to residents who have 95+% positive things to say. Might just be the programs themselves, but I thought the point of pre-interview dinners was to get the real perspective. Do programs control which residents attend those?

 

[freddydpt]

Pre-interview dinners are interviews just as any other (just in a more relaxed setting). If anyone tells you otherwise, they are not telling the truth. Residents know they are being interviewed as much as the applicants are. They will be on their best behavior. Get phone numbers and call after interviews are done, especially if red flags come up.

 

[Gadofosveset]

Seriously, where are the residents with grievances? So far I've only been exposed to residents who have 95+% positive things to say. Might just be the programs themselves, but I thought the point of pre-interview dinners was to get the real perspective. Do programs control which residents attend those?

It's usually more self-selection... More pro-program residents tend to go to the dinners.

Agree w/ freddydpt, it's usually a good idea to email a non-chief resident that you talked to at the interview dinner if something strikes you as odd. You might be surprised what you hear.

 

[rufaterd]

Which is better for a couples match of Anes and Rad:

Interview at UAB in both Anes and Rad

OR

2 Rad interviews at Penn and TJU and 3 Anes interviews at the Temple, Drexel, Cooper.

My UAB interview is the same day as Penn. No wiggle room. Things we do for love.

 

[DeucesHigh3]

Which is better for a couples match of Anes and Rad:

Interview at UAB in both Anes and Rad

OR

2 Rad interviews at Penn and TJU and 3 Anes interviews at the Temple, Drexel, Cooper.

My UAB interview is the same day as Penn. No wiggle room. Things we do for love.

Unless you're dead-set on being in Alabama, it seems like the Philly interviews would be a no-brainer for both of you.

 

[rufaterd]

Unless you're dead-set on being in Alabama, it seems like the Philly interviews would be a no-brainer for both of you.

It would seem that way. It's just that we are being recruited by UAB and have southern regional ties. Neither of which we have for the Philly programs.

 

[burgerkingbaby]

It would seem that way. It's just that we are being recruited by UAB and have southern regional ties. Neither of which we have for the Philly programs.

recruited? is this for residency or football?

 

[rufaterd]

recruited? is this for residency or football?

Ha, well everyone in the south talks about football. Recruit is a strong word, but they seem to be enthusiastic in accommodating our couples situation by calling us. So it feels like it means a lot.