Physics 1: 94 average on midterms, perfect 100 on final, ...

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All very difficult tests (averages in 60's to low 70's)...

Above average in the lab part of the course, at least average on the homework...

Got a B in the class (4 credit hours) because I kept skipping lecture (stayed up too late studying for other things, early morning class) and apparently missed out on a quiz. (Just one, I did the rest and got 8/10 - 10/10)

Feels pretty bad. Like, quitting pre-med bad. 👎
 
All very difficult tests (averages in 60's to low 70's)...

Above average in the lab part of the course, at least average on the homework...

Got a B in the class (4 credit hours) because I kept skipping lecture (stayed up too late studying for other things, early morning class) and apparently missed out on a quiz. (Just one, I did the rest and got 8/10 - 10/10)

Feels pretty bad. Like, quitting pre-med bad. 👎

Got good grades and skipped class? Congrats tell me when to kneel in your presence.

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All very difficult tests (averages in 60's to low 70's)...

Above average in the lab part of the course, at least average on the homework...

Got a B in the class (4 credit hours) because I kept skipping lecture (stayed up too late studying for other things, early morning class) and apparently missed out on a quiz. (Just one, I did the rest and got 8/10 - 10/10)

Feels pretty bad. Like, quitting pre-med bad. 👎

That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Unless your lying or the prof had one hell of a strange marking schema, you "deserve" more. You clearly demonstrate a strong comprehension of the course material.
 
If your convictions for medicine hinge on the basis of getting a B you may want to seriously reconsider your motivation in this career path. Physics isn't easy and getting a B is not the end of the world by any means. If you made mistakes learn from them and move forward.
 
If your convictions for medicine hinge on the basis of getting a B you may want to seriously reconsider your motivation in this career path. Physics isn't easy and getting a B is not the end of the world by any means. If you made mistakes learn from them and move forward.

Yeah, I guess it just feels bad to have the hard work you put into understanding the material nullified.
 
That's odd, unless you tanked the other exams, tanked the lab, or the professor made some component of the grade based on participation. In which case don't do the same next semester.
 
That's odd, unless you tanked the other exams, tanked the lab, or the professor made some component of the grade based on participation. In which case don't do the same next semester.

Did well above average on lab reports (based on average and standard deviation provided by TA). Didn't tank any exams, did 20-30 points above average on each one. Only one lost point for participation out of 6.

😕
 
Talk to the department head, this is bs. You obviously understand the material
 
If he graded the same way he described on the syllabus then u have no one to blame but yourself. If not then you have a legitimate complaint and should talk to someone.
 
Uh.....

quitting pre-med due to a careless high-school like mistake?

Come on people /facepalm

I'm a bit confused. Is there GRADED ATTENDANCE? If so, unfortunately, that's SOL. Someone can get A's on exams, but a 0 on attendance and get docked points, if it was stated on the syllabus from Day 1.

If the professor is docking you down due to not coming to class as an option(ie attendance isn't mandatory), that's something to fight for.
 
Another pre-med gets As on exams but skips class... oh boy 🙄
 
That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Unless your lying or the prof had one hell of a strange marking schema, you "deserve" more. You clearly demonstrate a strong comprehension of the course material.

Talk to the department head, this is bs. You obviously understand the material

Unless the syllabus says attendance not required there really isn't anything the op can do.

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Unless the syllabus doesn't say attendance not required there really isn't anything the op can do.

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I didn't skip every single class. I got 5 out of 6 points overall for attendance.

Anyway, guess there's always the Caribbean
 
I didn't skip every single class. I got 5 out of 6 points overall for attendance.

Anyway, guess there's always the Caribbean

Is attendance weighted the same as everything else? I've had classes where your attendance and participation grade are worth 30% even though the raw point value was less than 5% of the total class points.

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Is attendance weighted the same as everything else? I've had classes where your attendance and participation grade are worth 30% even though the raw point value was less than 5% of the total class points.

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6% of the overall grade

Only thing I can think of is that he didn't grade or misplaced things I turned in and gave me a 0 for those things
 
6% of the overall grade

Only thing I can think of is that he didn't grade or misplaced things I turned in and gave me a 0 for those things

Eh I would follow up with him then. I had a class last semester that was graded incorrectly. Teacher was embarrassed but happily made the correction.

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Something is not adding up here. I do not understand how you could up end with only a B. I would have expected no less than an A- with how well you did.
 
Agree with the above posters saying to discuss this with the professor, be respectful and couldn't hurt anything. With those test grades and a 100 on the final I can't believe that didn't equate to at least a ~90-92 even with a 80ish quiz average.

That being said, classes are often a responsibility more than a real test of intellect; you gotta play the game. There's a recipe for making A's, and by your senior year you'll be following it and doing just as well while classes are really the last thing you think about during the day. Losing points due to attendance or 0's on stupid online assignments makes it hard to argue for an A, those things are the least you can do.
 
Another pre-med gets As on exams but skips class... oh boy 🙄

Whats so ridiculous about this? Theres honestly been maybe like 1 or 2 classes where they taught me something I couldn't learn myself from reading the text and those tended to be classes where they went outside of the book.
 
If he graded the same way he described on the syllabus then u have no one to blame but yourself. If not then you have a legitimate complaint and should talk to someone.

+1 Did you look at the syllabus and actually calculate it yourself? If you calculate it weighing each part of your grade the exact way the syllabus described and still end up with a B then you deserve a B. If you calculate the weighted grade and you get an A then go to the department head because that's not the grade you deserve. It's as simple as that.

Especially if the syllabus clearly says that attendance and participation is mandatory and worth a big chunk of your grade, then theres nothing you can do.
 
Whats so ridiculous about this? Theres honestly been maybe like 1 or 2 classes where they taught me something I couldn't learn myself from reading the text and those tended to be classes where they went outside of the book.

I think the poster is more complaining about the subtle brag fest threads that are rampant on SDN lately.
 
Agree with the above posters saying to discuss this with the professor, be respectful and couldn't hurt anything. With those test grades and a 100 on the final I can't believe that didn't equate to at least a ~90-92 even with a 80ish quiz average.

That being said, classes are often a responsibility more than a real test of intellect; you gotta play the game. There's a recipe for making A's, and by your senior year you'll be following it and doing just as well while classes are really the last thing you think about during the day. Losing points due to attendance or 0's on stupid online assignments makes it hard to argue for an A, those things are the least you can do.

Yeah, I guess this is a pretty stupid way to go out. But with a B in a 4 credit hour class and the way some other classes are going, looks like I'm basically out of the running for my state M.D. schools and possibly all U.S. M.D. schools. Lowering goals or changing career paths due to a single class kinda hurts. Oh well, time to get over it I guess.
 
Yeah, I guess this is a pretty stupid way to go out. But with a B in a 4 credit hour class and the way some other classes are going, looks like I'm basically out of the running for my state M.D. schools and possibly all U.S. M.D. schools. Lowering goals or changing career paths due to a single class kinda hurts

I should have included this in my first post. You absolutely do not need to bail on pre-med because of a B in physics 1. For starters, there's a physics 2 you need to take as well. Beyond that, you don't need an 4.0 cgpa or sgpa to apply with good chances. One B (or a few for that matter) will never tank your chances. B's will be a factor contributing to a lesser chance, but unless it's the majority of your grades (i.e. <3.5 gpa's), it will not be the death of you. Make up for it in one of several ways available. Get mostly A's here on out and finish with 3.6+ gpa and then no one cares about that one class; get a solid MCAT and PS score; do some great research/EC's, etc., etc.

You're fine, don't be melodramatic about a B.
 
All very difficult tests (averages in 60's to low 70's)...

Above average in the lab part of the course, at least average on the homework...

Got a B in the class (4 credit hours) because I kept skipping lecture (stayed up too late studying for other things, early morning class) and apparently missed out on a quiz. (Just one, I did the rest and got 8/10 - 10/10)

Feels pretty bad. Like, quitting pre-med bad. 👎

That's weird. How much do the exams make up for the course? About 60%?
 
so you skipped class and missed a quiz? is that what happened? you are not being very straightforward here.

what did you expect? did you think the course grading scheme would not apply to you?
 
One time I asked why I got a B- and the prof said, "Oops, I meant to put B+"

I wonder how many times that's happened when I didn't ask.
 
One time I asked why I got a B- and the prof said, "Oops, I meant to put B+"

I wonder how many times that's happened when I didn't ask.

Mistakes happen. I once initially got a c that was supposed to be an A. Kept me out of the honors society because the registrar didn't get around to correcting it for months.
 
One time I asked why I got a B- and the prof said, "Oops, I meant to put B+"

I wonder how many times that's happened when I didn't ask.

don't complain, it helps the people that care the hurts the people that don't.
 
If you want, you can tell us all your grades and weights and the grading scale for A's, B's, etc.
 
Yeah, I guess this is a pretty stupid way to go out. But with a B in a 4 credit hour class and the way some other classes are going, looks like I'm basically out of the running for my state M.D. schools and possibly all U.S. M.D. schools. Lowering goals or changing career paths due to a single class kinda hurts. Oh well, time to get over it I guess.

You seem to have a very pessimistic attitude and seem to be just waiting for people to tell you that you're going to fail and not going to make it. What do you want us to say? You're going to fail. Give up on medical school.

Stop being butt hurt and find ways to improve. Somebody in that class got an A. Make it be you next time.
 
Grading schemes are what they are. I'm sure they told you at the beginning of the class that attendance counted. It is hard to feel sorry for someone who essentially shot themselves in the foot. Obviously your course load was too much for you this semester since you couldn't handle the easiest requirement of that class: simply showing up.
 
don't complain, it helps the people that care the hurts the people that don't.

Um... what? I wasn't complaining. Just telling OP it doesn't hurt to ask professors about grading discrepancies.
 
I got a B in my first gen chem that was also 4 credits. Does it hurt? Yes. Can you get over it? You better.
 
Whats so ridiculous about this? Theres honestly been maybe like 1 or 2 classes where they taught me something I couldn't learn myself from reading the text and those tended to be classes where they went outside of the book.

The problem here is not the fact that there are things that we learn better by ourself. The problem is this person got As and feels like he/she deserved it even for missing one quiz. It annoys me that people have this feeling of entitlement just because they are masters of the material but don't feel the need to yield to the bold print on the syllabus. If this person was sick on that day and got a doctors note but it was still not excused, then that would be a different story.
 
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