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Any port/Madeira does me just fine.
Beer wise - Guinness for the cold days and Hoegaarden(Belgian) for the warm ones - can drink it like juice!!
Hey, Copro, welcome back 😀
After a recent trip to Rehobeth, I've become a huge fan of the Dogfish Head brewery. While you can't go wrong with their ubiquitous 60-minute IPA, they have a wide variety of other interesting beers to choose from. Specifically, I'd recommend to anyone willing to try it the Palo Santo Marron. It's worth the price. Don't drink more than two at one sitting. At 12% ABV, you'll be completely ****housed if you try to drink them like you would a regular beer.
Seek it, find it, try it. You might have to find a specialty brew shop. Not likely you're going to find this at your local grocery store. Expect to pay between $3.00-$3.50 per bottle.
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-copro
If you like the Dogfish 60, try the 90. Some GREAT IPAs out West here. Pliny the Elder, Racer 5... Some of the Rogue products out of Portland...
Three-tier (alcohol distribution)
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The Three-tier system of alcohol distribution is the system for distributing alcoholic beverages set up in the United States after the repeal of Prohibition. The three tiers are producers, distributors, and retailers. The basic premise of the system is that the producer must sell to the distributor who must then sell to the retailer (and only retailers may sell to consumers). Producers include brewers, wine makers, distillers and importers.
Some states chose to become alcoholic beverage control jurisdictions after Prohibition - as discussed below these states do not always fit so neatly into the "three-tier" model.
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1 Exceptions and regulations
2 Dispute
3 See also
4 References
5 External links
[edit] Exceptions and regulations
States have various exceptions to this rule, the most prevalent one being the case of a brewpub, which is simultaneously a producer and retailer, and has no requirement to sell to a distributor. Some states allow an entity to have a part in two of the tiers, letting small breweries act as their own distributor, for example. Many states permit wineries to sell bottles of wine on-site to customers, and some states, such as Oregon, permit intrastate shipments of wine directly from the producer to the customer.[citation needed]
In those jurisdictions that are not alcoholic beverage control states (discussed below), both liquor stores and licensed establishments are considered "retailers" for all intents and purposes, and may buy their product directly from distributors.
Usually producers will give a distributor exclusive rights to market their product within a geographical area, so that there will not, for example, be two distributors of Anheuser-Busch products competing against each other.
Rules also vary according to what kind of relationships each of the tiers can enter in to with the other two tiers. For example, a producer may not be allowed to give promotional items or services to a retailer. Another example is that a beer distributor might be responsible for setting up and maintaining draft lines in a restaurant, or may be legally prohibited from doing so, depending on the state.
Also, several states are alcoholic beverage control states - in any of these jurisdictions state governments maintain a monopoly on the distribution tier of the system (at least for distilled beverages). Some (such as Utah and Pennsylvania) monopolize the distribution and retail tiers. Those that maintain monopolies over the distribution system only (such as Michigan) could still be said to have a three-tier system - in such states producers sell to the distributor (in these cases, the state as opposed to a private operator) who in turn sells to private retail outlets.
[edit] Dispute
Wine and Spirits Wholesalers of America (WSWA), a trade organization and lobby group based in Washington, D.C. of considerable influence,[1] that works to oppose initiatives to alter the three-tier model, contends that wholesalers perform state functions and are in the business of encouraging social responsibility concerning alcohol as well as alcohol wholesale.[2] The Specialty Wine Retailers Association (SWRA) is a group representing the wine retail industry which interests lie in direct opposition to WSWA, who advocate the free movement of wine across state lines.[3][4]
In January 2010, media attention several months ahead of the annual WSWA convention took unusual proportions when it was announced that republican vice-presidential candidate and former Alaska governor Sarah Palin was scheduled to speak on behalf of the wholesalers, in contrast to past keynote speakers who are normally notable drinks-industry figures.[5] Palin reportedly charges a speaking fee of $100,000,[6] though WSWA has not made the figure public.[7] WSWA president Craig Wolf stated, "Gov. Palin is a great supporter of America's free enterprise system and understands that industries like the beverage alcohol industry play a key role in driving our national economy. We're proud and honored to welcome her as a speaker".[6]
Critical opinions have since expressed incongruencies in the platform of the WSWA, and some opinions Palin has voiced in the past, as purportedly devoted to the free-enterprise system and a vocal critic of lobbyists.[7][8][9]
[edit] See also
Granholm v. Heald - Supreme Court of the United States case involving state's right and the three-tier distribution system.
[edit] References
1.^ Marcus, Kim, Wine Spectator (February 14, 2005). "Bizarre Coalition Opposes Direct Shipment of Wine". http://www.winespectator.com/webfea...oalition-Opposes-Direct-Shipment-of-Wine_2398.
2.^ Nigro, Dana, Wine Spectator (October 21, 2002). "Tide Turns in Direct Shipping Battle". http://www.winespectator.com/webfeature/show/id/Tide-Turns-in-Direct-Shipping-Battle_1465.
3.^ Arnold, Eric, Wine Spectator (November 9, 2007). "Battle Over Retail Wine Shipping Comes to a Head in the Courts". http://www.winespectator.com/webfea...e-Shipping-Comes-to-a-Head-in-the-Courts_3882.
4.^ Teichgraeber, Tim, Decanter.com (January 15, 2008). "'Storm' of negative pr as wine.com sneaks on rivals". http://www.decanter.com/news/174024.html.
5.^ Woodard, Richard, Decanter.com (January 14, 2010). "Sarah Palin to speak at US wine convention". http://www.decanter.com/news/news.php?id=293881.
6.^ a b Wine Spectator: Unfiltered (January 14, 2010). "Sarah Palin's Wine Soapbox". http://www.winespectator.com/webfeature/show/id/41572.
7.^ a b Steinberger, Mike, Slate.com (January 22, 2010). Going Rosé
8.^ Walshe, Shushannah, The Daily Beast (January 13, 2010). "Palin's Booze Hypocrisy"
9.^ Asimov, Eric, The New York Times: The Pour (January 20, 2010). "Sarah Palin's Next Convention Speech"
P.S. Not "back". Just decided that this forum is only really good for occasionally promoting non-anesthesia related products I happen to like... and not much else.
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Another thoroughly fantastic IPA, if you can find it.
-copro
P.S. Not "back". Just decided that this forum is only really good for occasionally promoting non-anesthesia related products I happen to like... and not much else.
Weird...Planktonmd also just recently made a reappearance after several months hiatus. Must be that time of year.
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Solid, inexpensive single malt.
Go with the 18 yr old. You'll probably like it much more. it's not overly subdued or oaky.
Get a bottle of Aberlour A'bundah. You'll like it, and it's cask strength.👍 It's better than the 'fiddich and not very expensive.
Depakote, your bevy of icons is a bit overwhelming. You're like a general or something.
It's rivaled only by your obscene post count.
For a really good single malt give Coal Ila a try and Ardbeg, really like those two.
Okay, so we know JetPropPilot digs on the Patron. We know DrDre is laidback suckin' on Gin and Juice. Noyac sips the Don Julio (pronounced "HOO-lee-oh"). Venty apparently filled his wifey up with Sangrita before he filled her up with something else... (which is how he got his baby-daddy mojo going).
What is your current poison of choice?
Right now, I mellowing out after a hard day. It's the end of the month, and hence the end of a tough rotation. So, I'm chokin' down a little Clamato, Absolut Peppar, and olive juice with a big sprig of celery and a dash of Tabasco. I've got light cases on an short day tomorrow and the weekend off, which will be the first full weekend off in three weeks. So, I'm starting a little early.
What are ya'll drinking these days?
-copro
1/2 sambuca, 1/2 bailey's. It's called a slippery nipple, or pierced nipple. It's better with a little milk or cream.
Where I grew up, a Slippery Nipple was 1/2 bailey's, 1/2 butterscotch schnaaps. Doesn't sound too manly, but the girls LOVE it.
Have you tried the Tanqueray Rangpur? I look for it when I'm out for dinner to give it a go. I'm hoping they have it at a new restaurant tonight.
My newest single malt purchase is The Macallan Cask Strength. It's still a sherry bomb, but it's more complex than the standard 12 and quite affordable at ~$60. It's a good one to get if you want to try a cask strength scotch. The Aberlour I mentioned earlier in this thread is another.
Cheers.
Have you tried the Tanqueray Rangpur? I look for it when I'm out for dinner to give it a go. I'm hoping they have it at a new restaurant tonight. It's been on and off my radar for a while now. I'm a big Sapphire and tonic man when the weather turns very hot. Clean dry and refreshing.
Have you tried the Tanqueray Rangpur?
They didn't have it. Had some nice Sangria though.I've heard of it, i'd like to try.
Arrogant Bastard by Stone. It's akin to treason, drinking beer from anyplace other than the Pacific Northwest while living in Stumptown. I'll risk it for this ale any day of the week.
As a resident San Diegan, I simultaneously 100% agree with your choice of poison - Stone Arrogant Bastard - and disagree with your statement about your Pacific NW beers. I think San Diego has the best microbrew scene, especially the double/imperial IPA style, going right now.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!!! *
*(I couldn't agree with you more, but voicing such blasphemy up here in the People's Republic of Oregon is punishable by death 😱)