"pimp" etymology

This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.

KeyzerSoze

Scrambled Member
15+ Year Member
Joined
Dec 14, 2005
Messages
1,619
Reaction score
14
Someone showed me an article in Smithsonian magazine about amusing medical acronyms and abbreviations which claimed that "PIMP", in the medical education slang sense, originated as an acronym for "Put In My Place". I think it's pretty unlikely. Anyone bored enough to comment?

Members don't see this ad.
 
Yeah, that's how it was explained to me too.
 
Members don't see this ad :)
In general, when you hear an acronymic explanation for a word origin, you should assume it's wrong. For some reason, people are obsessed with retroactively inventing these dumb, bogus explanations. Think of all the ones in common circulation: "tip" from "to insure promptness," "posh" from "port out, starboard home," "f*ck" from "for unlawful carnal knowledge," "cop" from "constable on patrol," "golf" from "gentlemen only, ladies forbidden," all debunked by Snopes and others. People don't invent phrases in which the first letter of each word conveniently forms a pronouncable word, then somehow get everyone who speaks the language to start using it at the same time. It's just not how words come into being.
 
So you're saying "cops" wasn't derived from cns-oligodendrocyte, pns-schwann cell? :laugh:
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user
In general, when you hear an acronymic explanation for a word origin, you should assume it's wrong. For some reason, people are obsessed with retroactively inventing these dumb, bogus explanations. Think of all the ones in common circulation: "tip" from "to insure promptness," "posh" from "port out, starboard home," "f*ck" from "for unlawful carnal knowledge," "cop" from "constable on patrol," "golf" from "gentlemen only, ladies forbidden," all debunked by Snopes and others. People don't invent phrases in which the first letter of each word conveniently forms a pronouncable word, then somehow get everyone who speaks the language to start using it at the same time. It's just not how words come into being.

That's why I was skeptical. Incidentally, the correct etymology for one of the words you listed is "fornicate under command (of) king".
 
http://blog.oup.com/2007/06/words/

"...In addition to “provider of prostitutes,” pimp has been attested with the meanings “boy who does menial jobs at a logging camp; boy who carries water, washes dishes, and performs other menial jobs.” The paper collar stiff’s cigarette was known among loggers as pimp stick, and a helper in northern Idaho mines was likewise called a pimp. A rather obvious cognate of pimp is German Pimpf “little inexperienced boy.”

"...The less-known meanings of Engl. pimp “servant at the lowest level of a social hierarchy” indicates that pimp “provider of sex” is not the only and, most probably, not the original meaning of this word. The development must have been from “worthless person” to “the least respected servant” and from those to a general term of abuse, later transferred to the sexual sphere. Ben Jonson, a contemporary of Shakespeare, once used pimp as meaning “ninny, raw novice,” but this fact was discovered only in 1977 and has not been noticed by the authors of later English etymological dictionaries."

And finally...

"Pimping ain't easy, but it's necessary." ~ Ice Cube
 
http://blog.oup.com/2007/06/words/

"...In addition to “provider of prostitutes,” pimp has been attested with the meanings “boy who does menial jobs at a logging camp; boy who carries water, washes dishes, and performs other menial jobs.” The paper collar stiff’s cigarette was known among loggers as pimp stick, and a helper in northern Idaho mines was likewise called a pimp. A rather obvious cognate of pimp is German Pimpf “little inexperienced boy.”

"...The less-known meanings of Engl. pimp “servant at the lowest level of a social hierarchy” indicates that pimp “provider of sex” is not the only and, most probably, not the original meaning of this word. The development must have been from “worthless person” to “the least respected servant” and from those to a general term of abuse, later transferred to the sexual sphere. Ben Jonson, a contemporary of Shakespeare, once used pimp as meaning “ninny, raw novice,” but this fact was discovered only in 1977 and has not been noticed by the authors of later English etymological dictionaries."

And finally...

"Pimping ain't easy, but it's necessary." ~ Ice Cube

Nice.
 
Top